"David vs Goliath" - Boss SD-1 vs Boss SD-1w Waza Craft
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Danish Pete engages yet another "David VS Goliath" pedal challenge where an a very affordable goes up against a more expensive pedal. The Boss SD-1 and the Boss SD-1W Waza Craft.
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Pete used a Fender Stratocaster Custom Shop into a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe Amp.
I Don't know about you guys but I think the yellow one is the best hands down
fsharp 1 it was close for me. The yellow one sounded warmer but the yellow one sounded a little hotter. But yes, I agree. Yellow wins this one.
Me too!😂
確かに、その違いは全然解んない？技クラフトは回路上のディスクリートで、オペアンプで簡略化した回路を、ワザワザ、トランジスタをいくつも使った複雑な回路で再現した？でも、ソレもボスのエンジニアがやったのだから？という技術者の考察として興味が湧いてしまう！でも、私たちは、自分のアンプ、スタジオにあるアンプで良い音だと思う音を、試しているだけだ。基本、改良型の２は大ヒットした定番。
Hands down
I think you’re right
Ones definitely got a Japanese inspected vibe about it
oh
but the question is, to your ears does it sound Japanese inspected or inspected in Japan. You need headphones but the difference is there. I'd say inspected in Japan but what do I know.
This one is IIJ !! (eye-eye-Jay)
lmao
and in a mix, nobody would be able to tell the difference at all.
I think all pedal comparisons should be done with a looper. then just go back and forth between pedals, turning knobs while the looper plays
Andrew Nitzkoski YES!!!!
in my opinion, the tone probably varies just from the picking alone. So the Looper would definitely be a great idea.
Like Pete Thorn!
The motto of my pedal comparison channel.
you are 100% right
The led is brighter on the Waza. Worth it!
I think we fail to recognize that these pedals are mainly used as overdrive to tighten on high gain humbucker situations
The SD-1W is an amazing pedal ! The clarity, tightness and slight gain boost is worth $149. The SD1 by itself is a great pedal. If that’s what you want than go that route. It’s a great pedal. Those of you with a discerning ear will appreciate the small changes but huge improvements the Waza Craft version gives you. I run the SD1W into a JP2C with the gain on the SD1W cranked and a TC Sentry Gate in the chain. It’s a great tone !
What I want to hear is a test with a les Paul through an already dirty Marshall jubilee mini being boosted or driven with the Sd1 vs the waza.
I have the Waza Craft version and I love it six ways from Sunday. The difference between Standard and Custom modes is not like chalk and cheese, you certainly wouldn't notice it in a live setting but there IS a difference and you can (just for instance) use one mode for the left channel and one mode for the right channel when double-tracking in the studio. One of these into an Orange is certainly a recipe for joy...
The SD-1w sounds way more compressed. The SD-1 is a more natural overdrive sound. IMHO
Of course. Wayyyyyy more 😂
There is a difference, but not one worth twice the price.
Try 3 times the price, the OD3 sounds better than both of these,.....
Christopher Daly eh I think that’s too arbitrary to say, everyone has preferences and these both sound fine to me and probably work better in certain applications anyway
from a rliable source Waza is worse qualitywise...
Pablo Diaz what difference do you hear ? Everyone says they have more low end on the Waza custom mode. What say you ?
@@fatalbroadcastI much prefer the original sd1 to the od3. Like a screamer with slightly more gain and no nasal sound on chords. Od3 is better for humbuckers in my opinion while the sd1 is a much more versatile pedal.
I can't tell wich one is better, but what I can tell: the SD-1 is by far the best sounding overdrive pedal in the market imho! :D
I could not hear any difference in my headphones and nor can your audience at a gig or any listener to the album. They both sound great.
The yellow paint on the regular one is two micro faverns lighter which affects the overall tone.
Faverns? Uhhhh….
It won't matter once the drums kick in anyways
Yeah, nobody's concerned with the tone of what they play minus a band and multi-track recording. Additional noise, also.
CZcams is full of bullshit comments that are identical to yours.
thats what us poor people say to justify buying the cheaper stuff right?!!!
Says the drummer lol
+nkmcfrln
Well if you play in your bedroom and only for yourself buy the more expensive one.
I'd go with the standard pedal. Some of the shops stopped stocking the standard pedals, I end up buying pedals from the other brands. Ok, get the Wazacraft version if it works for you. My second WazaCraft to standard Boss pedal comparison video audition. Still won't pull me away from the old sound. Buy them both? Nah... Why? 😂
I like the yellow one.
Just bought a sd-1 today...impulse buy,but I have to say having it running into my fender bassbreaker 007 it sounds pretty darn good,my first venture into Boss has not been disappointing :D
I think the buffer in the first pedal when switched off will add more signal to second pedal,so the standard sd1 was in effect being boosted by the waza pedal. Two buffered pedals linked in series doesn't give a fair comparison.
I’d have to disagree.
Comments like these remind me not to trust everything I read on the internet.
@@juan-topic6664 Most boss pedals act as a buffer when not engaged ie. not true bypass.
The standard SD-1 has a crisper high end on it that the Waza doesn't have. That being said, the dual mode switch is nice for that bit of More. They sound Mean run together.
I think I'd describe it as the Waza sounding a bit sweeter.
Good comparison. I was expecting to hear a lot bigger difference between them considering the price difference.
I’ve got the Waza and the black standard model. I think the Waza is so worth the extra money because the extra mode and it’s such a fun overdrive to play with.
From experience the waza craft can do both and it's also a very transparent pedal. The regular sd1 tends to kill the bass response where the sd1w keeps it stays and it stays tight no flub.
Definitely the yellow one!
How about about playing into a looper so we can hear the exact same thing through both pedals? Even with consistent playing there are always slight variations in each repeat.
I personally own both. Granted the SD-1 much much longer, the NEWER surface mount PCB boards are a BIG upgrade compared to the old diode board. IMO, the Waza just sounds more clearer, and slight boosted. Now when I mean clearer, I mean more articulate, every note stands out, some may like it, some may not. Personally, not really me. I run my level max out, tone at 12, and drive at 8 o'clock. The Waza for me is more piercing but in a good way because that's what people pay for and should expect. Same for the custom channel, it's just extra of EVERYTGING.. I like the SD-1, sounds more natural. Again IMO ✌
Can definitely hear a difference in this one with decent speakers, the Waza Craft one sounds better for sure when the drive is turned up.
So being someone that falls for pedal propaganda and marketing, I decided to get a SD-1W. I already have an SD1 MIT and I think it’s the greatest pedal ever made. Few things I noted:
Both had the same noise floor. I tested them separately and together. So the noise floor argument is out of the window.
I played both and while the SD-1W has that tube crank/ growl and a “Hi-Fi” sound as someone put it. There literally wasn’t much difference between both. If anything I found the SD-1W way too compressed. It did well with solos but for rhythm and the organic open sounding tone I much preferred the MIT. Hence lesson learned, don’t over engineer and fall for propaganda. When you know you have a winner stick with it!
I agree. To me it sounds more compressed. Don’t mess with perfection. It’s like they made a sandwich and cut the crust off of it. Sometimes the crust is the best part, especially when it comes to pizza. I call bs and chalk this up to good ol marketing hype. I don’t care where something is made as long as the quality control is good. I hate when companies try to put a premium on products based on where it was made, as if Japanese hands are more skilled to Chinese or Mexican or whatever. It all comes down to manufactures meeting specs based off the original design and using the same parts. I but squier guitars just for this reason. I can afford a fender but I choose not to pay for the logo and brand when a perfectly fine Indonesian guitar looks plays and feels the same as what it’s imitating.
There's a slight difference but to pick a favorite? they both sound nice. The Waza sounds a little smoother but I wouldn't say it sounds better.
The Waza sounds a bit smoother to my ears. But not enough to warrant the extra $$ IMO. You can buy mod kits for Boss pedals for about $25, and if you are handy w/ parts and soldering, you can get similar improvements to the stock pedals.
I guess the Waza has a bit more open and less compressed tone but it's not really overly noticeable.
Guys saying it's the same. No they are not, try driving a plexi or a Mesa in the custom mode.abd you hear the difference. A lot More bite and girth, more definition. And of course a buffer
The SD-1 is my current favorite TS style OD. I didn’t hear anywhere near enough difference with the Waza to justify spending 3 times as much for it!
But then I like my stock DS-1 as well, so what do I know?
Like Jim Lill says “maybe it only matters as much as you hear that it matters.”
Those with the extra cash can enjoy the Waza! I just order the SD-1 for $52.99 shipped with a $49 boss goodie sack! I just use it for cranking my tube amps and utilize the volume on the pedal for loudness. Cranking the tube amps at low volume style!
I liked the standard sd1 better. It sounded clearer and brought the tone of the guitar out more. The waza was too muddy and fuzzy for my taste.
Driven hard the Waza sounds a little thicker but as everyone is saying you probably wouldn't hear much difference in a gig situation.
The "s" position sounds identical. If you like the "c" position you can consider spending the extra money on the waza.
+Thomas I agree with you, but spending money just for it? i think other options cant contribute more.
+Thomas IMO when Waza is used in normal (s) mode it definitely has more low mids and sounds a bit cleaner.
+Mika Oinonen agreed!!
I think that the "C" mode just sounds like the neck pick up on a normal sd-1
nicely done. the better buffer alone is nice to have in there, cleaner signal. The custom mode adds an extra flavor and make this even more useful. - whats not to like?. But both sound great anyway.
I feel like the sd1 is a little brighter sounding when compared to the waza , when the waza toggle is to the left.
Once the switch is over to the right, the waza seems to have a bit more gain and a tighter , more compressed sound. Not by a ton, but enough to notice.
Bang for your buck? Can't beat the sd1!
The waza is good, but there are better options at that price point IMO. ( OCD )
If I can add a bit of 'reality' here... If you have to put headphones on to tell the difference between the two... How the hell is your audience going to tell the difference when you are gigging? Honest answer? THEY WON'T! Would they tell the difference between an SD-1 and a Tone City OD pedal? No of course not! Would they care? No of course not! Keep it real people... Keep it rockin'!
i'm not sure about you, but when i play live, i give out headphones direct from the PA to each audience member. they really appreciate when i solo with my hand-wired tubescreamer versus my regular one.
Preach!
+Lord-JP
Lol.
YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO CARE ! LOL...GEEZZZ.. YOU PROBABLY USE A JUNK AMP AND CHEAP GUITAR TOO..CUZ THE AUDIENCE CANT TELL..LOL.. HAVE A LITTLE PRIDE IN YOUR GEAR ! AND YOURSELF...
+DEMON SLAYER
I always appreciate sarcasm. It's a perfect descriptions of a gear snob.
"But muh genuine tone!"
Both are great. love my SD-1
I’ve got an original mij sd1 and it sounds different to these both, more character to me, and just makes every pedal sound better 🤷🏻♂️ plus i got it for £35 which is an absolute steal
My favorite od. It’s like a tube screamer but more full on chords, no nasal sound.
best demo of these pedals I've heard yet - I actually hear the difference! =\
Why did you waste so much time with the Waza in standard mode?
It proved the point that the standard mode sounds the same.
The sound of the pick hitting the string is more prominent and annoying on the SD-1W in S mode, as it sounds like it is on top of each note, rather than behind it.
Both sound good, better than the OD-3 ,which I own ! Dammit Martha !
The waza sounded slightly less fizzy to me but it's a miniscule difference and I'm not sure that I'd even notice if I hadn't been told to find a difference!
Not worth the bump in price.
I prefer the standard version. For me it gives more attack, more "bell tone" maintenance and more rounded bass.
Bell tone is a nice way to describe that thing it does. I agree the normal one seems to do it better than the waza.
Waza has standard mode aswell..so it cant be better..
The Waza Craft takes a lot of the muddiness off the bottom. Cleans the sound up a lot. Nice improvement, otherwise a lot of detail is lost with the unmodded, stock SD-1, and this is with a strat with single coil pickups. That cleaner bottom end would definitely be a big advantage to a guitar with humbuckers since they normally tend to have a thicker, muddier sound. I'll go for the Waza Craft any day over the stock SD-1. Noticeably improved sound IMHO.
Too bad the link to more info on Boss Pedals doesn't work (404 - page missing error), and there's no info on where to get a Waza Craft version or what the cost is.
GlennMarshallRocks I totally agree and the coil/humbucker argument is exactly what I was thinking of as well. If you only have one guitar and your settings will stay the same on everything regardless of the songs you play then perfect to go with the original. Anything that requires you to use multiple sounds, well the waza is gonna be able to manage that better without necessarily having to change your entire chain and amp settings to compensate. More options= well more options lol. And musicians friend still sells the waza stuff
There really is virtually no discernible difference between the two until the switch from "S" to "C" @ 5:45 - On a live performance with either pedal, you wouldn't know the difference with this setting only... Probably exactly the same circuitry for the "S" setting as the humble SD-1. Flipping the switch, it becomes a whole other pedal and that's why it's twice the price.
The price is surely different. But seriously, the Waza craft custom mode adds more bass and gain. Very subtle and may not justify the price difference but most of us will pay for it.
I like the original better. Waza is fuller, but there’s something missing in the upper harmonics
Great demo. Tough decision but i go to the yellow one (means both).
Waza's sound is bit similar on od-2
Waza craft is way more open and clear.
It doesn't sound like a SD-1, in good kinda way.
+Comp3630 The Waza sees a buffered feed, while the old one sees an unbuffered one, which makes a big difference.
@@TheDogPa all Boss Pedals before the Waza Series were buffered. But you‘re right, when you say that this is the difference, because they changed the buffers with the waza series.
The SD-1 has more bite. The SD-1w pushes more bass. Which is great through a clean amp. I use the SD-1 as a boost to push my already dirty amp for lead work. I’ve used a Super Overdrive like this since 1986. The SD-1w pushing more bass in an already driven amp, mushes my wound strings which I don’t like. Almost like a fuzz. I like the way the SD-1 keeps the wound strings tight. Both great pedals though for sure.
I can t hear a really huge difference !! I do like all this shout out
I'm gonna stick with the yellow one I've had on my board for 30+ years.....I prefer the chip marks and beer stains....tho that indented Waza logo has dirt accumulation potential for sure!
They both sound the same to me except the wazza is a bit duller. Prefer the original. It was good enough for Vai, Halen, Zappa, Jason Becker, George Lynch. It's good enough for anyone :)
Nice video. Knowing before hand of the big difference in price will always sway most people to like the cheaper model, clouding their judgement before testing even begins. This happens with guitar and amp comparisons as well. (I have the SD1 😎)
Again, a (badly I might say) buffered pedal fed as the input is a major difference. This test needs a passive A:B box to be relevant. Great playing as always however.
Yeah, major oversight
You should have named this video $58 vs $165. The difference will come down to which guitar and amplifier you use, not which of these you choose. They both sound very similar.. so it's easy to say that $58 wins.
On this one the Waza team didn't understand the real use case of the SD-1. Its value is that the std SD-1 EQ cuts and cleans up the lows and muddiness. Makes it great for boosting and recording. Then wally waza decides to add all that low end back in. Im sure Waza Craft does some great jobs on other pedals... but on the SD-1 I think they didn't understand the use-case.
Overall boss pedals are awesome i have boss delay from the 80's ...84 i believe when they made last analog like the one i have....
Just weighing which one to buy. Think I’ll save myself £50 here, can’t hear any difference ( maybe they feel different?)
Nice one Pete
W stands “pay more you son of a gun”.😂😄😆
They're both winners because they're both BOSS!
the audible difference is easily heard after 5:00 with the low gain setting. the original is warmer and organic while the waza one is kinda brittle and modern sounding
That tiny switch effects the weight and tone just a bit. Yellow is much better
I do think the Waza Craft is slightly better but i love my classic SD-1 and cant justify paying so much more on the Waza Craft.
Cheer for the Vid man
David vs Goliath means that the cheapest always wins?
I gotta say I like the Sd1 much better with the drive tone down and Level cranked then The waza. And drive cranked through my phone speaker it was hard to tell much a difference. I'd go with the sd1
Waza gives me less of harsh noises and more clearities.
The original sd1 is 1/3 the price.
You don't need headphones. You need to play them in person. I have played the BD-2 vs the BD-2W and the SD-1 vs. the SD-1W. There was a big difference. The upgraded buffer alone was worth my getting the BD-2W. The standard is much thinner and sounds fake vs. The waza version.
How about the SD-1w? Does it sound better and have more volume than the original? I have the SD-1 but was looking into the waza craft version for the better buffer and was hoping it has a little more volume.
Thanks for any info you can share.
@@brianrollins7275 To my ears, it does sound better. The buffer sounds fuller, and the custom mode is very handy when you need to retain some low end.
@@brianrollins7275 I didn’t crank the volume of either of them when comparing them at the guitar store. I have since gotten the SD-1W, and I have never had the need to crank the gain or volume all the way up. It has plenty of both. The standard version sounds like an upgraded SD-1. The custom mode has a flatter eq. It doesn’t roll off near as much of the treble and bass frequencies, so it sounds fuller with less pronounced mids.
Should I get sd1w or the od1x first? Which one is more versatile?
👉 BOSS SD-1W 👍
No real audible difference again imo !
+hyperliteBo The SD-1w sound fater
+Samir Marušić Not to me, and I doubt anyone could tell them apart in a blind test.
+hyperliteBo It does appear to be the theme between the basic Boss pedals and the modified versions that the extra money spent leads to no real difference in sounds.
7:07 you can hear de difference when that "S/C" switch is in the "C" position on the waza one.
CZcams apply a compressor, so its hard to hear that difference.
Not to my ears and definately not enough for a live audience to notice.
When I watched this video I had previously been listening to and researching Ibanez tube screamers, TS9s, 808s and minis. I compared them with each other and also with their vintage daddys. I stumbled across this video because I already have an SD-1 and it is fantastic, a lovely warm vintage-sounding overdrive in a £49 box. The difference in sound between the tube screamers was very subtle though audible. This is a very precise/scientific/professional revue Danish Pete and thank you for doing it that way :-) So, is it just me or do both pedals sound EXACTLY the same, BOSS are asking £80 for the boost switch? I have been a fan of BOSS for thirty years and I love them for telling it like it is and making good honest products. Why are they, all of a sudden, jumping on the smoke and mirrors BS wagon and selling modded versions of their own pedals?
The Waza has loads more low-mids when you hear this in person. I personally like that, especially with a Fender or Vox amp to round out the sound and make chords feel right in your gut. I would gladly pay the extra for that, but the original is still amazing for the price.
@@LeviBulger Hmm, something I can easily boost with my GE-7.
It's like buying soap or something. Do you want the new and improved soap or the regular stuff ?? Lol
I know the Waza pedals are all analog, but is the Sd-1? To everyone saying there’s no difference, an all-analog signal matters to some people, me included. For studio work I like to only have my conversion to digital at the very end of the signal chain to keep it as pristine as possible.
Waza Craft is more bassy and that's the reason for the larger headroom. Although I'd prefer the stock one, not the Waza Craft !!!
The waza sounds a little clearer when the drive is all the way up. Otherwise they sound the same in same mode. Crunch mode has nice boost
I have both. In "S" mode there is very little difference. My standard version is a little noisier but I don't hear that in this comparison so it might just be my pedals. In "C" mode, the Waza does have some different sounds. I find I use "S" mode most!
I thought the SD-1 sounded better than the Waza.
considering buying an SD1... based upon the sound clips coming through my PC speakers... I hear a bit less noise out of the waza version _ especially with tone knob turn up (treble). But I feel that kinda equates to possibly coming off a bit/tad sterile (less lively) - might be great for recording??? The custom setting seems a bit dark in the clips I've caught and Im not sure how that equates to my guitars/amps.... I really cant say with additional $$$ is justified based upon clips like these of what I have heard? I do own the waza delay dm2... and love it! thanks for the video!
I say get the waza craft. I have the SD-1 and it’s a great pedal but I still can’t get the waza version out of my head. I guess it’s my love for the original making me want the newer one. A little less noise and a better buffer sounds good to me. But no doubt I’ll still have my original until it dies or I do. Just my 2 cents.
Peace ✌️ ❤️ 🎼= happiness
Man… 2 years later and I’m back to this clip. I have the original (cheaper) sd1 and still love it! It might be my favorite overall (versatile) overdrive. I like it better than ocd, Maxon ts808, boss blues driver, and others I had owned and sold…
After listening to this again… the waza def seems tighter, more articulate. Wider spectrum… like there’s a concentration in the the mids on the original… t which might cut better??? I think set in a mix… it still be hard to tell unless you were to engineer the tracks maybe….
I think I’m gonna get the waza at some point
I like the old one best. Its more mid and bottom for my taste.
There is no overdrive pedal better than the sd1.
they do sound different but both sound equally as good to me. The more you cranked it the harder it was to tell a difference though.
For the price sd1 !!!
the C mode on the Waza sounded nice but overall I don't feel the difference was huge between the two.
Wow did he even crank it to full? How do you know what it really sounds like?
They are different. One has a symbol on the foot pedal and a little switch. It also has a sticker on the back. You pay more for that you know.
Danish Pete which do you like better between the two?
the only difference is the price tag
ad a switch that does almost nothing and cost pennies and then ask 70 quid extra
Designed in Japan! Inspected in Japan! (made in taiwan) Japan!
Digitech Hardwire TR-7 versus a Neo Ventilator would be nice.
+Laurens Hebberecht Good one... Thanks.
excellent test, parfait
Huge difference
Slightly strange question, but what make is that patch lead connecting the two pedals? I've had trouble finding that 'pancake' style patch cable (with the flat plugs). Does Andertons sell those? Would really help with fitting pedals on to a board.
Hey there. I think you saved me money again! I won't be buying the Waza.
Question for everyone and anyone :) ... Does the Waza only add some compression? They seem nearly identical. Thanks
Classic “product versioning” - creating slightly different products for the purpose of price differentiation i.e. a vertical product line. It’s more about capturing the market’s consumer surplus than its is about offering a genuinely different/better product. Some consumers can and will pay more for those little differences. In this case roughly twice as much. I think you see BOSS doing this more because increased competition means they can’t charge more than about GBP 70 for a basic pedal.
you loaded one into the other i think you should roam the aisles and hook up a loop switcher man