I love that pirouette at 1:57 ! I remember seeing a convoy of French armour rolling down the Champs-Élysées last year, and seeing a few of these in the formation. But, I've never seen them move like that!
Si le Leclerc possédait un système de contre-mesures actives anti missiles, comme les Shtora et ARENA russes ou le JD3 chinois, il serait certainement le "meilleur char du moment" ! En attendant, il reste amha dans le top 5 des MBT. (Ce qui est plus qu'honorable). Après dire qu'un matériel est "meilleur", tout dépend en quoi ! Le Leclerc est de loin le meilleur pour le tir en mouvement, le M1A2 pour la protection passive de l'équipage, et le T90 pour la mobilité. Autant dire qu'un char peut être "le meilleur" sur un terrain précis, et une bouze sur un autre type de terrain...
neage59 Je ne comparerais pas un Leclerc et un T90, en particulier pour ce qui est de la mobilité, (ou du tir en mouvement...). Le T90 n'est jamais qu'un T72 modernisé et rebaptisé pour des raisons de marketing, après que les T72 de Saddam se soient pris une déculotté par les blindés de la coalition ! Par contre les systèmes de contre-mesure du T90 sont excellents. J'imagine que Nexter et compagnie doivent bosser sur des équivalents, mais les financements de R&D Français sont loin d'être ceux des USA ou même de la Russie...
Arno Nymes Oui, mais à l'inverse de la France, la Russie doit modernisé toute son armée, d'où la R&D importante. On a le SPATEM pour le Leclerc, il est en développement depuis 2005 et aucune info depuis, on aura sûrement des infos lorsqu'il sera présenté à Eurosatory ou bien installé sur le Leclerc. Et on a le SHARK pour les autres blindés, qui est apparemment très efficace.
Mohamed Zennou Leur utilité a changé mais ils ne sont pas dépassé. D'ailleurs le conflit ukrainien, syrien, et yéménite ont remis les chars de combat au goût du jour. Surtout le conflit ukrainien où les T-84 résistaient beaucoup plus longtemps que les blindés légers.
Mohamed Zennou On disait cela dans les années 60, 70, 80, 90, et 2000 ! Pourtant tous les grands pays travaillent sur de nouvelles générations de chars... Certes il y a peu de chances de voir des batailles du type Koursk ou Kharkov, (et c'est tant mieux), mais les chars restent une composante importante de toute armée sérieuse. Il est par contre vrai que les prochaines générations de chars seront plus axées sur le combat urbain et les conflits asymétriques, (comme avec les actuels kits "AZUR" ou "TUSK")...
J'ai été au combat en Afghanistan ! Nos chef de bord se battent pour nous sauver la vie ! Et je remercie la France de nous donner ce qu'il se fait de mieux !
Leclerc is the most advanced tank in the world. Its performances in combat are unmatched, with 12 aimed shots per minute, fire-on-the-move at full speed offroad on moving targets up to 4500m, (auto)reload at any speed, 3 men crew, best composite and modular armor (S-XXI version), best urban tank (AZUR Kit), best digital fire control (FINDERS / SIT ICÔNE), linked to FELIN (soldiers + drones), best steatlh active/passive system, best range, hunter/killer mode, fully on night/day/rain/snow/desert
In the 1980s, the Germans had already developed for their Leopard 2 a turret housing a 140 mm gun with automatic reloading under the name of Leopard 2-140 (KWS III) The U.S. did the same with a new turret on their M1 Abrams in 1987, the CATTB project. The new modular armor turret housed a XM291 140 mm electrothermal gun with autloader. The France was interested on the 140 mm gun several years after but it remained on the drawing board, because the size of gun required a larger turret.
L'armure générale du Leclerc est probablement très efficace, même si comme la plupart de ses homologues occidentaux, le sommet de la tourelle n'est pas protégée contre les top attack. Ce n'est pas grave car les fabricants russes et chinois ne proposent pas d'équivalents au Bill-2 et TOW. Par contre, la tourelle a une grande zone de faiblesse en plein milieu, depuis le viseur tireur jusqu'au viseur chef de char. Le manchon à la base du canon est bien sur creux. Cette zone ne résisterait pas à un impact direct d'obus. Je ne sais pas s'il résisterait à un missile equipant une milice comme le Hezbollah. C'est un fait connu à l'étranger. www.armyrecognition.com/chars_de_combat_france/leclerc_main_battle_tank_technical_data_sheet_information_description_intelligence_specifications_fr.html
David Doumèche Arrête de regarder des blogs débiles et intérèsse toi au vraies analyses d'expert et tu verra que le Leclerc est l'un de chars les mieux protégés, avec une quasi absence de points faibles contrairement aux autres chars.
look i have read this fact in at least 3 books, and in the news paper in question there were pictures of french men, women and children playing, diving drinkss to german soldiers, and talking quite happily to german soldiers; in Paris. And i do respect everyone who fought in the war including Germans-because they were fighting for what they believed in.
Wasn't just the L/55 cannon there were other improvements, on the A5 series as well. -spaced add on armor to front and side of turret (helps vs hollow charge and kinetic energy attacks) -gun mantle redesigned for new armor -improvements in main armor composition -enhanced mine protection under chassis -a few internal enhancements for improved crew survivability -greater armor protection on 2E version
i wish people would remember the one fact of "if its on youtube and in public view, then the military has had it for ages and are working on better things, their really good shit is classified top secret"
It's far away the best video (tank) I've seen on CZcams. Everything is perfect: introduction, music, timing, synchronization... The 2nd part with pictures is outstanding. It's like a real video (good choice the picture with cavalry ;-) ). I don't care to know if it's the best tank of the world or not. What I've seen is a demonstration of power and agility. And the only thing I want to do is to buy it now! Well done MetalDrake!
Or a Scalp EG if you hide or stock your tanks in an reinforced hangar under the ground or not. Or just if you park your tanks too close one to the other what is a good target for a scalp! Same for choppers, planes, bunkers, air bases, command centers or communication centers, power plants, munitions storage... etc so high value targets.
The 120 mm gun of the Leclerc (GIAT CN120-26) is very similar the original Leopard 2's 120 mm gun (the famous Rheinmetall 120 mm). French 120 mm gun (from the late 1980's) had a length of 52 calibres providing a slightly higher initial velocity. The German 120 mm gun (from 1979) and its American variant (M256 from 1985), only had a length of 44 calibres, BUT they were older. German Leo 2 has a 55 caliber-length now The german APFSDS shell, the DM43 was developed with the frenchs.
And for the PARS 3 LR, its expensive but its NOT a bad missile. Also, it was developed to support own forces in active tank battles. Means it was not made to destroy "cold tanks". For cold tanks you can use bombs or HOT 3 or whatever. When the osiris locks a tank, you are dead.
The other features mentioned, the Leo2+Ch2 have, CAT proved the leo2 and Ch2 can fire faster then an autoloader long with the older Leopard 1 and M1 Abrams. The Leclerc is expensive, as all new things are. Its using indigious systems also. UAE Leclerc is an improved version of the original, yet does not cost as much since France has been stricking a deal with the UAE to open a base there.
In 1940, the French tanks did not even have radio, their poorly-designed turrets only house a single person who would do the job of three. The 47 mm gun was inferior to the german 50 mm, only the heavy and unreliable B1 still had a chance to resist to the Panzer III, fortunately they did not used the Panzer IV that was already in use The Leopard 2 from 1979 had already a modular armor and a rotating panoramic sight for the commander. 13 years later, the Leclerc had the same things.
And don't underestimate what did the resistance for the war. Just listen to Eisenhower: "Throughout France, the Free French had been of inestimable value in the campaign. They were particularly active in Brittany, but on every portion of the front we secured help from them in a multitude of ways. Without their great assistance the liberation of France and the defeat of the enemy in Western Europe would have consumed a much longer time and meant greater losses to ourselves"
veeery intelligent to construct the optical systems about 10 squaremetres large and put it on top of the tank with a sign "please shoot that large thingy so we can't see you."
It's not because the Tiger tank was slow, it's because the allies had huge numbers of tanks approaching from east and west, a lot more than the Germans could ever build until the allies would have reached German homeland.
Pour l'Eurofighter c'est récent, ça s'est passé au Red Flag Alaska en Aout 2012 si je ne me trompe pas. Oui, c'est pour ça qu'il en a une, sinon en dogfight il ne ferait pas long feu. Même en dogfight il ne peut pas l'utiliser beaucoup, avec la perte d'énergie que cela génère, il serait vite à court de carburant.
Oui comme je l'ai dit Thales ne fait pas dans la portée, il fait dans l'efficacité. Selon les règles d'engagements, si un pilote détecte un ennemi mais que personne peut confirmer si c'est un allié ou un ennemi il doit attendre d'avoir une confirmation visuelle, dans ce domaine la Rafale est pour le moment l'appareil pouvant identifier le plus loin.
C'est utile pour changer la donne contre un appareil pas trop manoeuvrable ou pour augmenter la chance d'esquiver un missile, mais comme tu l'a dit il y une perte de vitesse. Même si les moteurs du F22 sont suffisamment puissants pour récupérer l'énergie perdue, s'il utilise trop la poussée il mettra pas longtemps pour tomber en panne sèche.
It has a longer operational range (550 kms compared to the 425 kms of the abrams), it is faster and much more accurate when firing in movement. On the other hand, it is also lighter, less protected. It would be an interesting tank duel, but not going to happen any time soon.
This tank was made in the goal to stop a Soviet invasion of France during the cold war, it is a high tech and very expensive tank and France got hundreds of them. Thank God, we never had to use them !
Le résultat officiel donné est 1 shoot pour le F22 sur 6 engagements, les 5 autres on ne sait pas (soit égalité, soit 1 shoot pour le Rafale). Mais les pilotes français ont été très fiers de leur résultat.
The thickest part of the leopard 1 armour is the turret and its protection level is rated at 190 against KE weapons and 270 against CE weapons. The M1A2 turret is rated at 590 against KE weapons and 1050 against CE weapons. Better protected indeed................
Contrary to what you say, the French fought the Germans and lost 100000 killed in 6 weeks of fights during the battle of France. They inflicted more than 100000 casualties to Germans, killed and wounded. More than 1000 German planes were shot down and a further of 488 damaged. It certainly helped GB to not be crushed during their air battle, a few weeks after. Battle of France was lost due to bad tactics by old generals who were still in the previous war, not by the troops on the ground.
We invented the stock system and we had the first company in the world the VOC. Our drug system works perfectly fine and we have one of the lowest crime rates in the world. We also dont depend completely from European agricultural subsidies like France with it's high unemployement rate. We have KLM the oldest Airline in the world. We have the Royal Dutch Shell which is the biggest company in the world. And we are one of the richest countries in the world. And the Germans make the best tanks.
Its not nonsense. The first ever successfully designed and built tank was from Britain. The concept however were tandemly created by da vinci and H.G wells.
The Leopard 2A6 turrets protection level is rated at 940 against KE, its protection level against CE weapons is at the moment unkown. However promisingly its expected to be much higher then the C2 and M1A2.
After the cold war, The possibility of the war disappeared in Europe and the North America. Their tanks stop evolution at the cold war era. However, the threat of the war is still a reality in the worlds other than Europe and America. The age of a "huge and heavy tank" ends. 60-tons class tank is a good target in the Urban area and Mountainous region.
Le problème est que nos ennemis sont seulement capable de détecter une signature IR, et à faible distance 10-20km, donc même si le neuron arrive à avoir une plus grosse signature IR, le Rafale se serait déjà fait repérer par le radar ennemi. Et même en rasant le sol, ils seront obligés de prendre de l'altitude pour tirer, et bien sûr le plus loin possible pour ne pas être pris dans la DCA. Lorsque le Rafale pourra tirer à portée visuelle le neuron ne se serait même pas encore fait repérer.
Non lorsqu'il a dépassé les mach 2 c'était avec un F404 si je ne me trompe pas. Mais je confirme le M88 peut aller à mach 2, ils ont limité à mach 1,8 pour ne pas réduire la durée de vie du moteur. Les anglais ont fait pareil avec l'eurofighter, ils l'ont limité à mach 1,8 pour la durée de vie alors que les autres pays l'ont laissé à mach 2.
@YayeBal The Foreign Minister of Japan in World War II is Korean. Korean people had the suffrage and eligibility at Japan. There was Korean assembly member in Japan, too. Korean VolunteerSoldier Application magnification to Japanese army 1938, 7.3 times, 1939, 20.2 times 1940, 27.6 times, 1941, 45.1 times 1942, 62.4 times, 1943, 50.6 times(switches to the military conscription in September. ) Koreans rushed to the Japanese forces.
Übrigens ist die Rheinmetall 120mm Kanone so ziemlich die stärkste die in einem MBT verbaut ist. Deshalb wird sie auch von fast allen gängigen Modellen verwendet wie zum Beispiel K2, M1Abrams uvm. So viel zum Thema Feuerkraft. Zum Stückpreis: Der Leopard ist mit mit ca. 3-4 Millionen Euro pro Stück vergleichsweise billig im Gegensatz zu den 8,5 Millionen Euro des K2 oder anderen Modellen.
Il y a le pilote (qui voit l'extérieur avec une série de caméra disposé autour du tank, apparemment le système Felin vendra s'adapter en sus), l'artilleur (qui s'occupe du bon fonctionnement du rechargement auto du tank), et le capitaine de char (c'est pas le bon nom bien sur) qui tu vois à l'extérieur, ce n'est donc par le pilote qui sort sa tête mais celui qui donne les ordres et s'occupent de la bonne coopération des unités blindés en opération.
Au niveau du lobby des armes, visionnez plutôt les 7 parties de ce docu très intéressant. Cela nous apprend de choses sur certains pays en la matière, notamment les Etats-Unis : Sur youtube recherchez : "Des armes à abattre" partie 1 à 7
Want to talk stats ? allright : - GDP for Dutch ? - Position on top 500 compagnies ? - Place on security council ? - Nuclear strategic force ? - Space stratégic capabilities ? - Car production ? - Healthcare and pharmacology industry ? That's true, we are on the downside today, high unemployement rate that's right and high debts (like england, canada and germany but twice least than japan) but France is still the fifth economic power in the world, we are military and technically independant.
@Nikola24able you're not wrong, but full automatic shell reloading and pre locking target systems are only on the leclerc. The most efficient tank is certainly the merkava, but i think the best tank technology is on leclerc. And except tank vs tank, leclerc crews are very polyvalent and very experimented
It is well known that a Leclerc fleeing from battle can outrun most modern sports cars / motorcycles and is a even match for a Formula 1 car in acceleration.
"The Leopard 2 A6 have this, well every A6 version" Thats funny, the AMAP-ADS according to their website has not even gone into production. Only Great Britain and Sweden have shown interest in buying it and they are yet to test it. Actually Russia, Ukraine and Serbia are the only countries to have APS (shotra and Arena) equiped on their MBT's.
Oui je l'avais lu sur un site américain il y a quelques année maintenant mais je ne saurais plus te dire comme ça s'est passé. Le F15 ne peut pas encaisser des G comme le Rafale, il est bloqué à 9 G comme la majorité des avions, mais malgré son vieil âge il est encore très bon en supériorité aérienne. Pour info le F-22 est lui aussi bloqué à 9 G, même avec l'utilisation de la poussée vectorielle, son ordinateur de bord ne permet pas de dépasser la limite de G.
Le moteur V-92S2F donne 1130 chevaux à seulement 2300 tr/min, avec ça le T-90MS atteint les 72 km/h. Les chars de combat principaux se limitent quasiment tous à la barre des 70-72 km/h du fait qu'il y ai une limite physique, principalement due aux masses en mouvement des chenilles.
Lorsque le Rafale a fait son record de vitesse, c'était avec son premier prototype (Rafale A), celui-ci n'avait pas de M88 mais des F404. C'est exact, le M88-9 est plus grand et plus lourd, ce moteur ne sera pas monté sur un Rafale avant un bout de temps car cela nécessite une restructuration de celui-ci. Les problèmes sont le changement du centre de gravité, l'augmentation du poids de l'avion, et l'insuffisance du débit d'air.
LeClerc, XK2 and T-95 are the 4th Gen Tank with crew of 3 and auto loader. This will be the future of Tank design. The 5th Gen will have a crew of 2 and 6th Gen will have no crew at all and both Gen will be stealth tank probably.
i guess so but at one point the normans were nemys with the french in fact i think they were at war with france before they took england from the saxons. They were actually very different from the french, (wot with their scandinavian roots) but of course they did speak french haha. another history lover too ;D
"If you wish be a success, promise everything deliver nothing." sounds like a snobby frenchy to me. " the french complain of everything, and Always" . -N.B.
The T-34 sloped armour rendered the majoirty of German anti-tank guns useless. The sloped armour became the corner stone of modern tank armour and was even copied by the Germans and used in their Panther and was present in almost all future tank designs like the Tiger 2 and Maus. It provided excellent protection but could also kept the tank lighter.
Your comments are unfounded, yesterday, you did not even know that was a muzzle reference system. The informations are no longer classified, this tank has now 20 years, ex-tankers begin to loosen their tongues. There are also some very interesting information on the performance of modern tanks have participated in trials Greece for a competition. I have even pictures of a dismantled Leclerc's turret in a wrecking yard...
hahahaha you certainateley speak english MUCH MUCH better than we speak german ;D, but i too think that writing french is the hardest part i can speak it quite well and they think i'm french when i do its really funny, apologies to you though because my german is non existant!! i like french though it rolls off the tongue and its really elegant to speak ;D
Oh dear im wrong, I was reading the Glacis rating for the M1A2 armour. Its actually 960 against KE weapons and 1620 against CE weapons. The Challenger 2's turret protection level is rated at 960 against KE weapons and 1700 against CE weapons.
@vnck25 There is one thing that you might not know and that is when a M-1 was damaged and needed to be left behind camanders often decided to destroy the M-1 so it could not be taken and used by enemy and at point blank range it took between 10 and 20 rounds to make the M-1 unusable.
I read a tank chief says that the Leclerc is the only tank capable to fire while moving. Yes, the others can (Abrams...) but he probably meant "fire while moving FAST". I'm not an expert and I don't giving lessons but I sincerly think that this tank is one of the most powerful of the world. Disgorge ask why "tank high speed". Read the page of Wikipedia on Leclerc "much consideration was given to active, besides passive protection". You see ? That's why there's a low armour.
C'est parce que le Leclerc a connu énormément de problèmes avant d'être à la tranche 11, plus que tout autre char. Mais ces problèmes étaient surtout due au fait qu'il est bourré d'électronique et qu'il a été conçu pour le sol européen. Chaque char a ses problèmes mineurs, comme tu l'as dit le zero panne est impossible. Le Abrams est connu pour avoir des problèmes avec sa turbine, c'est le seul autre char connu pour un problème majeur.
You did not read what I write? I already said that French's had a Depleted Uranium shell, the OFL120F2 but its penetration is lower because it is derived from DM-43 According to reliable sources approved by the ex-tankers of the "1st-11th Cuirassier Regiment", the Leclerc SXXI is precisely designed to resist to his own fire with DM-43 shell (penetrates 590 mm of steel). This is exact, because the Leclerc's front composite armor provides protection between 400 and 640 mm of steel
The tank at the cold war era and the tank after the cold war are equal to the difference between F-15 and F-22. or difference between "Guided missile Destroyer (DDG)" and "Aegis Combat System".
Yeah many tanks use Shotra and Arena, but its not armour. I was talking about Armour only, shotra and arena is completely different its a countermeasure system.
@DisgorgeKILLusa: Yeah, in 1991, the M1A2 is from 1992. The Leopard 2A5 is from 1995. The M1A2 SEP from the Marine Corps has a upgraded LRF from Zeiss, modified by Raytheon. 9995m with a deviation from 5m.
1 milliard de francophones aiment ce char vive la France
@FUCK SHIT 300 000 000 millions t'es sûr ?
Il y a pas 1 milliard de francophones faut arrêter le délire.
119 britanniques n'aiment pas cette video x)
I'm a Brit and I love it haha. Vive la France
TheAxelino006 Ahahahahah a British challenger mkII is worth 3 Leclerc tanks.So you have no chance :)
Pas du tout....... Allemands peut-etre? 😏😏😏😏 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
et les américains
Ou peut-être les Ruskovs.
i love the way this clip is made, and the tank
I love that pirouette at 1:57 !
I remember seeing a convoy of French armour rolling down the Champs-Élysées last year, and seeing a few of these in the formation.
But, I've never seen them move like that!
BEST TANK IN THE WORLD :D
@_ItalianPatriot _2004 yes in reallity
XDDD
Si le Leclerc possédait un système de contre-mesures actives anti missiles, comme les Shtora et ARENA russes ou le JD3 chinois, il serait certainement le "meilleur char du moment" !
En attendant, il reste amha dans le top 5 des MBT. (Ce qui est plus qu'honorable).
Après dire qu'un matériel est "meilleur", tout dépend en quoi ! Le Leclerc est de loin le meilleur pour le tir en mouvement, le M1A2 pour la protection passive de l'équipage, et le T90 pour la mobilité.
Autant dire qu'un char peut être "le meilleur" sur un terrain précis, et une bouze sur un autre type de terrain...
neage59
Je ne comparerais pas un Leclerc et un T90, en particulier pour ce qui est de la mobilité, (ou du tir en mouvement...).
Le T90 n'est jamais qu'un T72 modernisé et rebaptisé pour des raisons de marketing, après que les T72 de Saddam se soient pris une déculotté par les blindés de la coalition !
Par contre les systèmes de contre-mesure du T90 sont excellents.
J'imagine que Nexter et compagnie doivent bosser sur des équivalents, mais les financements de R&D Français sont loin d'être ceux des USA ou même de la Russie...
Arno Nymes Oui, mais à l'inverse de la France, la Russie doit modernisé toute son armée, d'où la R&D importante.
On a le SPATEM pour le Leclerc, il est en développement depuis 2005 et aucune info depuis, on aura sûrement des infos lorsqu'il sera présenté à Eurosatory ou bien installé sur le Leclerc.
Et on a le SHARK pour les autres blindés, qui est apparemment très efficace.
+Arno Nymes ouais mais aujourd'hui les chars lourd sont dépassé
Mohamed Zennou Leur utilité a changé mais ils ne sont pas dépassé. D'ailleurs le conflit ukrainien, syrien, et yéménite ont remis les chars de combat au goût du jour. Surtout le conflit ukrainien où les T-84 résistaient beaucoup plus longtemps que les blindés légers.
Mohamed Zennou
On disait cela dans les années 60, 70, 80, 90, et 2000 !
Pourtant tous les grands pays travaillent sur de nouvelles générations de chars...
Certes il y a peu de chances de voir des batailles du type Koursk ou Kharkov, (et c'est tant mieux), mais les chars restent une composante importante de toute armée sérieuse.
Il est par contre vrai que les prochaines générations de chars seront plus axées sur le combat urbain et les conflits asymétriques, (comme avec les actuels kits "AZUR" ou "TUSK")...
J'ai été au combat en Afghanistan ! Nos chef de bord se battent pour nous sauver la vie ! Et je remercie la France de nous donner ce qu'il se fait de mieux !
Superbe hommage au Leclerc !
A quand la nouvelle génération de Leclerc ?
Il y a deja eut pleins de modernisations et c'est pas fini avec le programme Scorpion.
200 Leclerc seront modernisés avant 2025.
+Blacky Wolf tu peux en dire plus sur le programme scorpion stp
***** Je pense que le reste est top secret xD
en tout cas y'a de beaux joujoux en perspective !
yep , this tank is the best tank in the world ,even the unit cost is $23.000.000 XD , IM SERIOUS
Yes AMX- 56 is the most expensive MBT in the world now.
Herman Bruner Why the fuck is the Leclerc so expensive?! But it looks FUCKING SEXY^!!!!!
Roger
Стефан Србија cause of the command systems , autoloader and other things
quand il va te défendre tu vas le trouver bon
Leclerc is the most advanced tank in the world. Its performances in combat are unmatched, with 12 aimed shots per minute, fire-on-the-move at full speed offroad on moving targets up to 4500m, (auto)reload at any speed, 3 men crew, best composite and modular armor (S-XXI version), best urban tank (AZUR Kit), best digital fire control (FINDERS / SIT ICÔNE), linked to FELIN (soldiers + drones), best steatlh active/passive system, best range, hunter/killer mode, fully on night/day/rain/snow/desert
In the 1980s, the Germans had already developed for their Leopard 2 a turret housing a 140 mm gun with automatic reloading under the name of Leopard 2-140 (KWS III)
The U.S. did the same with a new turret on their M1 Abrams in 1987, the CATTB project.
The new modular armor turret housed a XM291 140 mm electrothermal gun with autloader.
The France was interested on the 140 mm gun several years after
but it remained on the drawing board, because the size of gun required a larger turret.
Le leclerc est très polyvalent, puissant et efficace. Mais malheureusement celui-ci est loin d'être un bon tank à cause de ses coups d'entretien...
Et de ses pannes, de ses couts d'achats, et de sa grande vulnérabilité.
David Doumèche et ta grande connerie elle est vulnérable ???
L'armure générale du Leclerc est probablement très efficace, même si comme la plupart de ses homologues occidentaux, le sommet de la tourelle n'est pas protégée contre les top attack. Ce n'est pas grave car les fabricants russes et chinois ne proposent pas d'équivalents au Bill-2 et TOW.
Par contre, la tourelle a une grande zone de faiblesse en plein milieu, depuis le viseur tireur jusqu'au viseur chef de char.
Le manchon à la base du canon est bien sur creux.
Cette zone ne résisterait pas à un impact direct d'obus. Je ne sais pas s'il résisterait à un missile equipant une milice comme le Hezbollah.
C'est un fait connu à l'étranger.
www.armyrecognition.com/chars_de_combat_france/leclerc_main_battle_tank_technical_data_sheet_information_description_intelligence_specifications_fr.html
***** Laisse tomber, encore un joueur de wot qui pense que les chars français n'ont pas de blindage...
David Doumèche Arrête de regarder des blogs débiles et intérèsse toi au vraies analyses d'expert et tu verra que le Leclerc est l'un de chars les mieux protégés, avec une quasi absence de points faibles contrairement aux autres chars.
Excellent answer. You obviously know what you are discussing. Thank you.
I really love the way the tank slide around the conner on the high way !! it just like the sport car of tank !!! Sweet !!!
look i have read this fact in at least 3 books, and in the news paper in question there were pictures of french men, women and children playing, diving drinkss to german soldiers, and talking quite happily to german soldiers; in Paris.
And i do respect everyone who fought in the war including Germans-because they were fighting for what they believed in.
That's fucking fast for a tank. Awesome machine.
old, but still fresh in everyone's mind...
Most recent version of AMX Leclerc (tranche 10 & 11) are equiped with very new armor, first presented at the Eurosatory in 2004.
Wasn't just the L/55 cannon there were other improvements, on the A5 series as well.
-spaced add on armor to front and side of turret (helps vs hollow charge and kinetic energy attacks)
-gun mantle redesigned for new armor
-improvements in main armor composition
-enhanced mine protection under chassis
-a few internal enhancements for improved crew survivability
-greater armor protection on 2E version
I wish Poland bought few hundreds of those... fantastic machine.
i wish people would remember the one fact of "if its on youtube and in public view, then the military has had it for ages and are working on better things, their really good shit is classified top secret"
loved the music video, this is the best tank video i have seen! perfect music i was amazed
Excellente vidéo! J'adore voir ce char en action.
Est-ce que tes vidéos sont téléchargeables en meilleur qualité?
It's far away the best video (tank) I've seen on CZcams. Everything is perfect: introduction, music, timing, synchronization... The 2nd part with pictures is outstanding. It's like a real video (good choice the picture with cavalry ;-) ).
I don't care to know if it's the best tank of the world or not. What I've seen is a demonstration of power and agility. And the only thing I want to do is to buy it now!
Well done MetalDrake!
Even if you believe or you do not believe,The truth doesn't change.
"The moon exists even if you do not see."
- Albert Einstein -
Or a Scalp EG if you hide or stock your tanks in an reinforced hangar under the ground or not.
Or just if you park your tanks too close one to the other what is a good target for a scalp! Same for choppers, planes, bunkers, air bases, command centers or communication centers, power plants, munitions storage... etc so high value targets.
The 120 mm gun of the Leclerc (GIAT CN120-26) is very similar the original Leopard 2's 120 mm gun (the famous Rheinmetall 120 mm).
French 120 mm gun (from the late 1980's) had a length of 52 calibres providing a slightly higher initial velocity.
The German 120 mm gun (from 1979) and its American variant (M256 from 1985), only had a length of 44 calibres, BUT they were older. German Leo 2 has a 55 caliber-length now
The german APFSDS shell, the DM43 was developed with the frenchs.
And for the PARS 3 LR, its expensive but its NOT a bad missile.
Also, it was developed to support own forces in active tank battles. Means it was not made to destroy "cold tanks". For cold tanks you can use bombs or HOT 3 or whatever. When the osiris locks a tank, you are dead.
Best CZcams discussion ever
he's as good as the other tanks but he's faster and got a better fire while moving system. great video
Kinda looks like the Abrams and Bradley had a baby, love the speed of this tank
The other features mentioned, the Leo2+Ch2 have, CAT proved the leo2 and Ch2 can fire faster then an autoloader long with the older Leopard 1 and M1 Abrams.
The Leclerc is expensive, as all new things are. Its using indigious systems also. UAE Leclerc is an improved version of the original, yet does not cost as much since France has been stricking a deal with the UAE to open a base there.
In 1940, the French tanks did not even have radio, their poorly-designed turrets only house a single person who would do the job of three.
The 47 mm gun was inferior to the german 50 mm, only the heavy and unreliable B1 still had a chance to resist to the Panzer III, fortunately they did not used the Panzer IV that was already in use
The Leopard 2 from 1979 had already a modular armor and a rotating panoramic sight for the commander. 13 years later, the Leclerc had the same things.
And don't underestimate what did the resistance for the war. Just listen to Eisenhower:
"Throughout France, the Free French had been of inestimable value in the campaign. They were particularly active in Brittany, but on every portion of the front we secured help from them in a multitude of ways. Without their great assistance the liberation of France and the defeat of the enemy in Western Europe would have consumed a much longer time and meant greater losses to ourselves"
veeery intelligent to construct the optical systems about 10 squaremetres large and put it on top of the tank with a sign "please shoot that large thingy so we can't see you."
It's not because the Tiger tank was slow, it's because the allies had huge numbers of tanks approaching from east and west, a lot more than the Germans could ever build until the allies would have reached German homeland.
Pour l'Eurofighter c'est récent, ça s'est passé au Red Flag Alaska en Aout 2012 si je ne me trompe pas.
Oui, c'est pour ça qu'il en a une, sinon en dogfight il ne ferait pas long feu. Même en dogfight il ne peut pas l'utiliser beaucoup, avec la perte d'énergie que cela génère, il serait vite à court de carburant.
Oui comme je l'ai dit Thales ne fait pas dans la portée, il fait dans l'efficacité.
Selon les règles d'engagements, si un pilote détecte un ennemi mais que personne peut confirmer si c'est un allié ou un ennemi il doit attendre d'avoir une confirmation visuelle, dans ce domaine la Rafale est pour le moment l'appareil pouvant identifier le plus loin.
Fast, very advanced and has a german 120 mm cannon... I like it!
Thats one nice video you made mate. The beginning has some Command &Conquer feel to it :)
C'est utile pour changer la donne contre un appareil pas trop manoeuvrable ou pour augmenter la chance d'esquiver un missile, mais comme tu l'a dit il y une perte de vitesse. Même si les moteurs du F22 sont suffisamment puissants pour récupérer l'énergie perdue, s'il utilise trop la poussée il mettra pas longtemps pour tomber en panne sèche.
@Stanchoux
Stabilizers have been a common feature of tanks since immediately after WWII - where they started to be introduced.
Excellent video, and perfect edits too! Thank you.
Shit!! I am impressed with you'r work! O_O
This video was extremely well put together!! 5/5!!
is a very good tank but is very expensive to maintain
It has a longer operational range (550 kms compared to the 425 kms of the abrams), it is faster and much more accurate when firing in movement. On the other hand, it is also lighter, less protected. It would be an interesting tank duel, but not going to happen any time soon.
This tank was made in the goal to stop a Soviet invasion of France during the cold war, it is a high tech and very expensive tank and France got hundreds of them. Thank God, we never had to use them !
And we got a cruise-missile too. The KEDP 350 Taurus ;)
Le résultat officiel donné est 1 shoot pour le F22 sur 6 engagements, les 5 autres on ne sait pas (soit égalité, soit 1 shoot pour le Rafale). Mais les pilotes français ont été très fiers de leur résultat.
The thickest part of the leopard 1 armour is the turret and its protection level is rated at 190 against KE weapons and 270 against CE weapons. The M1A2 turret is rated at 590 against KE weapons and 1050 against CE weapons.
Better protected indeed................
un monstre le char le plus lourd et le plus gros jamais mis en service dans une armée
Very good video of an incredible main battle tank.
Contrary to what you say, the French fought the Germans and lost 100000 killed in 6 weeks of fights during the battle of France. They inflicted more than 100000 casualties to Germans, killed and wounded. More than 1000 German planes were shot down and a further of 488 damaged. It certainly helped GB to not be crushed during their air battle, a few weeks after. Battle of France was lost due to bad tactics by old generals who were still in the previous war, not by the troops on the ground.
A tank is a tracked armoured fighting vehicle. "Austro-Daimler Panzerwagen" is an armoured car. So the British were the first to create the tank.
This is a MAGNIFICIENT TANK.... for retreating !
We invented the stock system and we had the first company in the world the VOC. Our drug system works perfectly fine and we have one of the lowest crime rates in the world. We also dont depend completely from European agricultural subsidies like France with it's high unemployement rate. We have KLM the oldest Airline in the world. We have the Royal Dutch Shell which is the biggest company in the world. And we are one of the richest countries in the world. And the Germans make the best tanks.
Its not nonsense. The first ever successfully designed and built tank was from Britain.
The concept however were tandemly created by da vinci and H.G wells.
The Leopard 2A6 turrets protection level is rated at 940 against KE, its protection level against CE weapons is at the moment unkown. However promisingly its expected to be much higher then the C2 and M1A2.
After the cold war,
The possibility of the war disappeared in Europe and the North America.
Their tanks stop evolution at the cold war era.
However, the threat of the war is still a reality in the worlds other than Europe and America.
The age of a "huge and heavy tank" ends.
60-tons class tank is a good target in the Urban area and Mountainous region.
Yea, and the METEOR missile is not only for france, neither was it developed by france alone. Its a joint-project.
Le problème est que nos ennemis sont seulement capable de détecter une signature IR, et à faible distance 10-20km, donc même si le neuron arrive à avoir une plus grosse signature IR, le Rafale se serait déjà fait repérer par le radar ennemi. Et même en rasant le sol, ils seront obligés de prendre de l'altitude pour tirer, et bien sûr le plus loin possible pour ne pas être pris dans la DCA. Lorsque le Rafale pourra tirer à portée visuelle le neuron ne se serait même pas encore fait repérer.
The Lelerc is damn near indestructible. Moreso than the Challenger.
Besides, They drive the lelerc hard. Unlike any other MBT in the world.
Non lorsqu'il a dépassé les mach 2 c'était avec un F404 si je ne me trompe pas. Mais je confirme le M88 peut aller à mach 2, ils ont limité à mach 1,8 pour ne pas réduire la durée de vie du moteur.
Les anglais ont fait pareil avec l'eurofighter, ils l'ont limité à mach 1,8 pour la durée de vie alors que les autres pays l'ont laissé à mach 2.
@YayeBal
The Foreign Minister of Japan in World War II is Korean.
Korean people had the suffrage and eligibility at Japan.
There was Korean assembly member in Japan, too.
Korean VolunteerSoldier Application magnification to Japanese army
1938, 7.3 times, 1939, 20.2 times
1940, 27.6 times, 1941, 45.1 times
1942, 62.4 times, 1943, 50.6 times(switches to the military conscription in September. )
Koreans rushed to the Japanese forces.
Übrigens ist die Rheinmetall 120mm Kanone so ziemlich die stärkste die in einem MBT verbaut ist. Deshalb wird sie auch von fast allen gängigen Modellen verwendet wie zum Beispiel K2, M1Abrams uvm.
So viel zum Thema Feuerkraft.
Zum Stückpreis: Der Leopard ist mit mit ca. 3-4 Millionen Euro pro Stück vergleichsweise billig im Gegensatz zu den 8,5 Millionen Euro des K2 oder anderen Modellen.
Il y a le pilote (qui voit l'extérieur avec une série de caméra disposé autour du tank, apparemment le système Felin vendra s'adapter en sus), l'artilleur (qui s'occupe du bon fonctionnement du rechargement auto du tank), et le capitaine de char (c'est pas le bon nom bien sur) qui tu vois à l'extérieur, ce n'est donc par le pilote qui sort sa tête mais celui qui donne les ordres et s'occupent de la bonne coopération des unités blindés en opération.
ohhhhh thanks i wasnt sure but i'd seen some footage of a leclerc in the desert ans wasnt sure where it was thanks mate xD
Au niveau du lobby des armes, visionnez plutôt les 7 parties de ce docu très intéressant. Cela nous apprend de choses sur certains pays en la matière, notamment les Etats-Unis :
Sur youtube recherchez : "Des armes à abattre" partie 1 à 7
Want to talk stats ? allright :
- GDP for Dutch ?
- Position on top 500 compagnies ?
- Place on security council ?
- Nuclear strategic force ?
- Space stratégic capabilities ?
- Car production ?
- Healthcare and pharmacology industry ?
That's true, we are on the downside today, high unemployement rate that's right and high debts (like england, canada and germany but twice least than japan) but France is still the fifth economic power in the world, we are military and technically independant.
@Nikola24able you're not wrong, but full automatic shell reloading and pre locking target systems are only on the leclerc. The most efficient tank is certainly the merkava, but i think the best tank technology is on leclerc. And except tank vs tank, leclerc crews are very polyvalent and very experimented
Remember, in modern warfare speed is armor.
It is well known that a Leclerc fleeing from battle can outrun most modern sports cars / motorcycles and is a even match for a Formula 1 car in acceleration.
"The Leopard 2 A6 have this, well every A6 version"
Thats funny, the AMAP-ADS according to their website has not even gone into production. Only Great Britain and Sweden have shown interest in buying it and they are yet to test it.
Actually Russia, Ukraine and Serbia are the only countries to have APS (shotra and Arena) equiped on their MBT's.
Oui je l'avais lu sur un site américain il y a quelques année maintenant mais je ne saurais plus te dire comme ça s'est passé. Le F15 ne peut pas encaisser des G comme le Rafale, il est bloqué à 9 G comme la majorité des avions, mais malgré son vieil âge il est encore très bon en supériorité aérienne.
Pour info le F-22 est lui aussi bloqué à 9 G, même avec l'utilisation de la poussée vectorielle, son ordinateur de bord ne permet pas de dépasser la limite de G.
"LECLERC MBT - BEST TANK IN THE WORLD !" LOL @ That.
Le moteur V-92S2F donne 1130 chevaux à seulement 2300 tr/min, avec ça le T-90MS atteint les 72 km/h.
Les chars de combat principaux se limitent quasiment tous à la barre des 70-72 km/h du fait qu'il y ai une limite physique, principalement due aux masses en mouvement des chenilles.
omg thanks so much bin looking for it everywhere
Oui c'est un bel avantage. Il n'y a plus qu'à attendre ait fini d'être développer pour savoir de quoi il est capable.
Lorsque le Rafale a fait son record de vitesse, c'était avec son premier prototype (Rafale A), celui-ci n'avait pas de M88 mais des F404.
C'est exact, le M88-9 est plus grand et plus lourd, ce moteur ne sera pas monté sur un Rafale avant un bout de temps car cela nécessite une restructuration de celui-ci. Les problèmes sont le changement du centre de gravité, l'augmentation du poids de l'avion, et l'insuffisance du débit d'air.
LeClerc, XK2 and T-95 are the 4th Gen Tank with crew of 3 and auto loader. This will be the future of Tank design. The 5th Gen will have a crew of 2 and 6th Gen will have no crew at all and both Gen will be stealth tank probably.
i guess so but at one point the normans were nemys with the french in fact i think they were at war with france before they took england from the saxons. They were actually very different from the french, (wot with their scandinavian roots) but of course they did speak french haha. another history lover too ;D
"If you wish be a success, promise everything deliver nothing." sounds like a snobby frenchy to me. " the french complain of everything, and Always" . -N.B.
The T-34 sloped armour rendered the majoirty of German anti-tank guns useless. The sloped armour became the corner stone of modern tank armour and was even copied by the Germans and used in their Panther and was present in almost all future tank designs like the Tiger 2 and Maus. It provided excellent protection but could also kept the tank lighter.
France made the decision to go into serial production after hearing about its high performance reverse speed.
in the exams...
i destroy my mark just because of fkn mistakes when i forget to adapt the verb to the personal form, especially the p.compose
Your comments are unfounded,
yesterday, you did not even know that was a muzzle reference system.
The informations are no longer classified, this tank has now 20 years, ex-tankers begin to loosen their tongues. There are also some very interesting information on the performance of modern tanks have participated in trials Greece for a competition.
I have even pictures of a dismantled Leclerc's turret in a wrecking yard...
He probs "supposedly" served in a tank regiment where they did not learn what stuff was called in english.
hahahaha you certainateley speak english MUCH MUCH better than we speak german ;D, but i too think that writing french is the hardest part i can speak it quite well and they think i'm french when i do its really funny, apologies to you though because my german is non existant!!
i like french though it rolls off the tongue and its really elegant to speak ;D
Oh dear im wrong, I was reading the Glacis rating for the M1A2 armour. Its actually 960 against KE weapons and 1620 against CE weapons.
The Challenger 2's turret protection level is rated at 960 against KE weapons and 1700 against CE weapons.
@vnck25 There is one thing that you might not know and that is when a M-1 was damaged and needed to be left behind camanders often decided to destroy the M-1 so it could not be taken and used by enemy and at point blank range it took between 10 and 20 rounds to make the M-1 unusable.
"The greatest conqueror is the one who conquers without having to fire a shot."
Oh and the AGM-88 of the Luftwaffe and italian airforce use a GPS guiding, so they dont need to track the radar-signals of the radarstation. Baby!
I read a tank chief says that the Leclerc is the only tank capable to fire while moving. Yes, the others can (Abrams...) but he probably meant "fire while moving FAST". I'm not an expert and I don't giving lessons but I sincerly think that this tank is one of the most powerful of the world. Disgorge ask why "tank high speed". Read the page of Wikipedia on Leclerc "much consideration was given to active, besides passive protection". You see ? That's why there's a low armour.
C'est parce que le Leclerc a connu énormément de problèmes avant d'être à la tranche 11, plus que tout autre char. Mais ces problèmes étaient surtout due au fait qu'il est bourré d'électronique et qu'il a été conçu pour le sol européen. Chaque char a ses problèmes mineurs, comme tu l'as dit le zero panne est impossible. Le Abrams est connu pour avoir des problèmes avec sa turbine, c'est le seul autre char connu pour un problème majeur.
You did not read what I write?
I already said that French's had a Depleted Uranium shell, the OFL120F2 but its penetration is lower because it is derived from DM-43
According to reliable sources approved by the ex-tankers of the "1st-11th Cuirassier Regiment", the Leclerc SXXI is precisely designed to resist to his own fire with DM-43 shell (penetrates 590 mm of steel).
This is exact, because the Leclerc's front composite armor provides protection between 400 and 640 mm of steel
@DisgorgeKILLusa: The most armored Tank is the T-84M with over 1200mm RHA, the M1A2 does have 960mm RHA, the Challenger 2 probably over 1000mm RHA.
The tank at the cold war era and the tank after the cold war are equal to the difference between F-15 and F-22.
or difference between "Guided missile Destroyer (DDG)" and "Aegis Combat System".
Yeah many tanks use Shotra and Arena, but its not armour. I was talking about Armour only, shotra and arena is completely different its a countermeasure system.
@DisgorgeKILLusa: Yeah, in 1991, the M1A2 is from 1992. The Leopard 2A5 is from 1995. The M1A2 SEP from the Marine Corps has a upgraded LRF from Zeiss, modified by Raytheon. 9995m with a deviation from 5m.