Slingbow with collapsible arrows!
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- čas přidán 13. 02. 2010
- Many friends of the outdoors like the idea to have a simple hunting weapon with them when they're backpacking. A bow and some arrows are very desirable, but then again this is bulky and heavy. This video shows Jörg Sprave's outdoor slingbow/slingshot survival bag. It contains
- A slingbow (arrow shooting slingshot)
- Three collapsible arrows
- Three razor sharp broadhead tips
- A Hunter Catapult slingshot
- Ten steel balls
- Spare bands and string
- A small multi tool for changing bands in the field
The whole bag weighs less than 3 pounds (about 1200 gramms).
The slingbow shown in this video is built around a so-called "whisker biscuit", the core of a popular arrow rest for bows. It does the job very well, but it had to be reinforced with steel in order to make it strong enough. - Věda a technologie
True, I wanted a compact slingbow for the bag. The threaded bits are strong enough, I just had to tighten the joint a bit.
I used common M3 nuts for the joint, glued in place. 1/2" long round aluminium nuts made in the lathe would be better. I may do that in the future.
Very accurate as far as I can tell.
Glad to see that you are using basic, cutting edge style broadheads. For lighter poundage bows these more traditional style heads cut efficiently. The best (stable) flight is generally achieved with a head that has a 3 to 1 ratio. The length of the broadhead should be 3 times the width. A good rule of thumb for traditional style long bows and recurves as well.
@JoergSprave Vulcanized rubber has only been around since 1839. There are no recorded slingshots before then. There ARE however, stonebows (since the 1300's), which I'd say are that great-grandaddy of your awesome inventions. Keep making these awesome videos- my friends didn't believe me about the cannon until I showed them. An awesome use of engineering skills!
Timeout. You've got a pool table? A slingshot pool cue must be brought into existence.
I love the way he says, 'Broadhead'
oh man!!! this is sooo sweet. i cant decide which of your creations is my favorite!
Wow. That's a really nice kit, especially for traveling.
Joerg you are the Q of the slingshot world!
as a survivalist this is like my perfect hunting pouch, small, light versatile, powerful, what more could you ask for??
absolutely superb!!! would love to know more about how you make some of the different parts of this!!
The collapsible arrows are home made, by myself! I sawed the full length arrows into three pieces each, then I glued M3 nuts and screws into the open ends. That was a lot of work, precision is needed for good results. The whisker biscuit was expensive, about 30 Euros.
your arm shakes like a leaf in the wind.. love your videos Joerg
that is awesome. Great video and great engineering!
Another excellent video and an equally excellent Slingbow, I love the design it is smooth and all the lines seem to flow very well on your braces for the Whiskers.
Folks can say what they want about not useing it to hunt with but put them in the woods with nothing else and see how fast they put the arrows together LOL
Keep up the good work Man!
Rusty
Lmao ... That a professional made "whisker biscuit" ... Love your vids keep then coming ...
i was just commenting about the pathfinder school videos when this one showed up next in the list. i am glad i saw it before trying your design myself because i would surely have broken my first whisker biscuit with the power of your bands. i will be sure to reinforce it when i build one.
Well, flatbands are more efficient than tubes. But I used a fairly strong band setup.
Love your sling shots!!!
oh and very nice video Joerg!!
@JoergSprave ok looking forward to it, always enjoy learning of the slingshots you show
you should make a fishing slingshot that shoots arrows with fishing tips on it and also put a reel on the slingshot itself
The arrows seem undisturbed by the joints. The balance is intact as the joints are at 33% and 66% of the length. They weigh less than 4 gramms each (so the arrow is 8 gramms heavier).
Fantastic job man !!
very nice idea. thank you for sharing it
Thats a cool slingbow!
I like that design, but a wrist brace added would help.
you make some awesome videos big fella!
ive been shooting slingbows for a while, im sure you're much more experienced but something i learned from "pathways survival school" videos are that you can replace the leather pouch with an actual piece of bow line so the arrow attaches easier. just a little piece of info take it or leave it but i see you enjoy experimenting and i was betting you could take this idea to whole new heights
@DJDailey You need to watch my newer slingbow videos.
That depends on the stone. I recommend corundum, the ideal non metallic projectile. Hard, dense and heavy.
Perfect! A great video that make me a bit jelous. :P You did great things, and very interesting videos.
Well, I gave a design to Dankung for free, they may bring a product out soon. This is a hobby that I don't want to spoil by turning it into a business.
@JoergSprave Just so you are aware, the bent sides of the broadhead do not let the arrow spin in mid-air. They let the broadhead burrow deeper into an animal's tissue and cause a bigger channel wound. The fletchings (not feathers in this case) allow the arrow to spin in mid-air, evening out any imperfections in the arrow shaft that might cause the arrow to be less accurate. But other than that, good job!
The golf tees are bad for precision. They disturb the balance of the arrows and also they catch in the whisker biscuit. I used a special pouch with rubber contact points instead.
joergsprave i don't know if you have seen the pathfinder videos but a really good modification fo your arrows is the use of the golf pins for the back of the arrow that way are easier to grave while pulling
thats really cool
The folding whisker biscuit is bad for the precision as the folding starts while the arrow is still on its way.
It has been a long time since I have used a bow, so I have no idea how it compares. I could manage a heavier bandset, though.
It's so funny when that arrow he shot made the block fall down
very cool my friend
Very impressive and I agree with the commentor about mass producing them. I believe you would find a market for them~
@PFbigfan447 But that would be untrue. Slingbows have been around forever, lots of old patents exist, and commercial products as well.
That is so cool i want one soo bad
You truly are an amazing creature Joerg..
Very creative design quite impressive.
You have one hell of a mind do you know that?
Good attitude :)
That is a wonderful portable weapon, but the load time seemed to be a bit slow.
Though it's quiet, you'd be at a disadvantage.
I have often wondered why you dont use a brace on your slingshots. That slingbow is absolutely awesome. very very effective against small game and with the arrows bigger game.. I personally would carry 12 arrows. 3 is just too few. 12 insures that you can continue the hunt even if you break 11 arrows(which will likely never happen) But in a survival situation id rather not need to starve when the arrow runs away with a bad shot. Or shatters when it hits a boulder(which happens sometimes)
I tried slinging, the power is impressive. But I can't hit anything with it.
Ha ha, do you never wear a coat...love all the clips
exellent my friend. you should really considering getting tht pattented if u havnt already. bt thats an amazing peice of equipment, anfd i also think that you should consider putting thm on the market.
@renottocs Slingbows have been around forever. There are patents that date back to the 1950s. Dave didn't invent this either. I do respect his efforts, though, quite a guy.
There was a big slingshot hype in the 50s and 60s, with many patents issued. There is little room for completely new inventions, we are left to enhancing things if we can.
No one person on youtube invented the slingbow!! i spent everyday from 8 years old to around 16/17 hunting,fishing,doin something in the woods by my house and have used just about every weapon/piece of gear to do so including a slinshot with an arrow WOW what an invention must have takin a rocket scientist to come up with that. I love Dave C's videos but he did not invent the "slingbow" he was the first person that I have personally seen to use a whisker biscuit for an arrow rest i used somewire
It's so funny when that arrow he shot made block fall
down
hey JoergSprave i like that "Sling Bow"!!!,can you have a shooting video with that sling bow?
Those viper hunting arrows are vwerry vwerry dangerous to wabbits! : P
BTW: Nice t-shirt. :)
Also, have you looked into collapsible arrows that work in a similar fashion to the collapsible canes that are used by the blind. Just pull the string and PRESTO!
@MikeFranks23 He doesn't make "wrist rocket" style slingshots because they are illegal in Germany. He also says he prefers the styles he shoots.
Watching his videos has gotten me to rethink the wrist rocket. The wrist brace makes the slingshot more bulky. Joerg's slingshots are simple and compact and sturdy. For a survival kit, I would probably go for a Joerg slingshot over the marksman folding slingshot I used to have. But I would have to do some testing before deciding.
That's a big arrow for that slingshot...
@halo4531 the whisker-biscuit is made of stiff brush bristles.
where can i get a bag Joerg? Very nice and small to pack with you on a quick hunt or hike. Awesome idea!
Joerg, absolutely fantastic! Super slick looking, and well designed. I'm curious, I don't have much experience with collapsable arrows, but your design made me think of how tent poles are linked together with an elastic cord. Is this something that might work with your design, or would it make it unstable? Just curious, loving the newer videos too!
brilliant video again mate,does the joints in the arrows affect the flight at all? i realy like the idea of this set up.
good to see the hunter making a show too! top man!
yes indeed,
@WoadWarriorX i saw daves version too, and i think how he used zip ties is how he can get away with it, by it being moveable and not hard mounted.would make it take the shock more efficiently with less chance of breaking.. just a guess though.
you could guage the the pull of the bands the same way you guage the pull on a bow. simply hang some weights from the band and see how much it takes to reach full draw. Most recurve bows are aroung 40 to 50 lbs. It is a law here that to hunt with any bow it must have at least a 35 pound draw weight.
I know I'm a few years late, but maybe you can find some short tent poles to use for collapsible arrows? Since they have rubber in-between that would pull em back into one peice. Maybe it would work?
hey joerg, can you please tell us how you bend your steel so well
thank you for the info, I really like ur ideas/modifications, I have been looking for a small bag with pockets like yours, any idea what the brand name is? even better if you can see some kinda model number on it, thx anyway :)
does an arrow shot by a sling bow like that, show the same characteristics an an arrow shot by a normal bow? Like the bendy bendy? i dont know how to explain it.
Good work! Did you see the one that Dave Canterbury (The path finder) Made? His has wisker biscuit that folds out of the way. But I think your right about yours being more stable. I'd say the flat bands also give quite a bit more power. How would you compare the pull of the sling shot to the pull of a bow?
I love this set up! I would really like to build my own collapsible arrows. Where did you find the materials to screw them together?
please make a how to video on the arrows!
I could make one of these easily. But such a weapon would require a license here in Germany, only approved and certified gun makers are allowed to build them. Too bad.
Where can I get one lol! I am hiking more and more and going to try a overnight trip! Id love to have one of these as an emergency kit!
@SilntObsvr True, but the techniques involved in braided slings have nothing whatsoever to do with slingbows or bows in general. In a bow or slingshot, potential energy is stored in a string or band and used to fire the projectile with percussive force; in a rope sling, the user swings the pouch, releases one end, and lets inertia launch the payload. They have nothing in common on even an engineering level.
it is designed to shoot sphericle projectiles.
Love the setup! I'd like to know where you purchased the arrow joints. Are they glued in or threaded into the arrow sections? Thanks for the video!
could you do a tutorial on how to make the arrows?
Hey man love the idea. what type of rubber is your bands? Where do you get them? Are they really powerful, because when you shoot the arrows it looks like the slingbow has lots of power. thanks.
Hey
Awesome video.
Have you seen the Chief AJ HFX slingshot?
The perfect survival pack, i really want to have one for myself, but how would i go about making the arrows into 3 pieces?
Are those aluminum arrows?
Awesome, this is a good survival bag. Where did you purchase the collapsible arrows? I've looked for a whisker biscuit but they're expensive here in Canada.
Thanks
u should take out the knocks and then glue golf tees for a better grip on the arrows
You should totally add a "Wrist Rocket" strap that goes on top of the forearm. It increases stability, accuracy, and power. In my formative years I accidentally killed a rabbit I just vaguely pointed at it. Struck it in the temple. I felt like shit. My mother even started working on me with "What if it had babies?" We ended up having a rabbit funeral with me weeping the whole time. I've killed nothing since. Cured me. I prefer to photograph nature now. I still like shooting my slingshot though.
how do the feather go through the hole does it go through?
Hey grate vide. Now is it possible to turn a Barnett slingshot in to a sling bow with a whisker biscuit on it? And what is the draw weight on that sling bow that you are using? And can it bring down big game like a deer?
Can you make some of these and sell them it looks really cool
Best joerg, where Could you buy this kit? (I live in Europe). Thank you
Vegas
Just curious, are those screw joints for the arrow shafts made out of aluminium? I'm kind of aware that if they're heavy, it'd affect the arrow flight.
You mean how the arrow wobbles up and down?
is it it vary accurate?
What are the arrows made out of? and how did attach the three peices together?
thats just were the joingts are, they werent screwed down all the way
@natara923 that is a great idea he is very talented and im pretty sure i would buy loads of his products they are great
joerg where can i find the inserts,female inserts seem to be available on every archery website,but i`ve never seen the male inserts
@garuga0777 You think so? You must be dating some strange ladies then.
How stable are the arrows? I was thinking of making some.
how did you make them break down arrows?
*Magic Surprise Bag* LMFAO
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