Dietary Guidelines Are Bogus: Saturated Fat is NOT Bad for Your Heart
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- There's a lot of fear-mongering around saturated fat, but in reality it's actually not bad for you and dietary recommendations created in the late 1970's are obsolete.
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0:00 Intro
0:20 There is no evidence that a low saturated fat diet improves or reduces cardiovascular disease.
3:10 Trans fats are problematic.
05:30 Government dietary advice initially focused on reducing fat and saturated fat consumption.
7:15 Randomized control trials done before government recommendations showed no statistical difference in mortality.
9:30 The control group in the Rose Corn Oil Study had a lower death rate than the intervention group.
11:50 Mean serum cholesterol levels were higher in the intervention groups but did not result in significant differences in cardiovascular disease or all-cause mortality.
14:00 At the time dietary advice was introduced despite having no evidence to support it.
15:30 More than 600,000 people die from cardiovascular disease every year.
Over here in England, lots of people are terrified of eggs, fatty red meat, butter, raw milk and cheese. No need. They are GREAT foods!
Interesting that it’s world wide.
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We have been lied to for decades by the (insert profanity of choice here) 'Swines and Tinkers Party'.
Its our fault. THINK. What did humans eat for eons? How does one believe what bullshit yarn they spin these days😵💩🙉
Fools
Ironic that after being raised on low fat ideals like skim milk, margarine and Wesson oil, I rebelled at age 15 and went all in on LARD, tallow and fatty meats. Whole milk dairy and fish. 40 years later still no heart attack!
It's coming. If you got vaccinated then that's the reason why it hasn't happened yet #science
'Dripping' is what us British used to call it years ago. Beef fat. Melted on toast LOL...salty, lovely
I grew up in the 80's when the low fat craze was in full swing. I remember questioning it even back then because we were taught that humans had been meat eaters for millions of years. I remember thinking "why is meat suddenly bad for us?".
give it a few more years, also, what's your cholestorel levels, have you had any tests done for blockages, etc etc. lol
@@PePethePedalPusher No idea, I have not been to a doctor since 1996.
Thanks as always Mike. I suspect the USDA guidelines were invented as band aid for the real problem of the 1970s--- Inflation. Protein prices go up way faster than commodity crops. So when people can't afford meat, the gov't says "meat is bad, eat cereal".
Why those videos attract so much of "this" kind of crowd? We have none evidence to support this claim, why are you people so gullible?
Same with this video, I absolutely dont believe that sat fats are not a problem, when there is tons and tons of studies, that sat fats ARE THE PROBLEM. Why those 3 or 4 studies are stronger than 100+ other studies? Aaaa, its because the men on the screen says things, you like to hear?
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Also it was easier to go after fat than Big Tobacco, people were still smoking like chimneys.
They were invented to solve the grain surplus the US was producing due to subsidies. That's around the time that the market was absolutely flooded with processed grain products and seed oils. They needed to convince the public to change their eating habits hence the propaganda and guidelines. This was a money making machine.
@@zerrodefexThe main cause of Heart problems at the time was already vegetable oils that people had been consuming in increasing quantities since 1911 in fact vegetable consumption was already quite high by the late 70s but nowhere as high as today.
I know too many people who are exactly that:
terrified of eating saturated fat or cholesterol.
This is a good overview of why the dangers
of saturated are not true, How, though, can
we get more people to understand and improve
their health? When we tell them to eat more
saturated fat, they hear someone telling them to
do something equally as harmful as starting
smoking. What a shame.
Its like an indoctrination. Its tough to go against years of programming.
I'm a 57 year old woman who loves healthy fats like butter and coconut oil but stay away from sugar. I'm slim and in really good shape while my sugar loving friends all look like toads and use truckloads of medications.
Perhaps you should share your secret with those toads, tactfully of course!
Using a low-carb / high fat diet and exercise, I dropped 28 pounds and reduced my triglycerides from 155 to 90 between April and August this year. My doctor flipped out over my LDL levels & refusal to take a statin, and didn't even acknowledge the weight-loss. I'm definitely in the market for another doctor, but am crossing my fingers it won't take too many tries to find a decent one.
Probably upset because he knows in a year it's gonna get so much worse and you won't listen so.
Keep up the great work, your Triglycerides will continue to fall and your HDL will climb.
I changed my doctor this year. The ignorant doctors that want to ignore results and science will weed themselves out of the industry as all of their customers leave them to go to a different doctor. My current doctor is on board with my diet and my results. He actually told me he's been thinking about going on the carnivore diet himself.
Hopefully the rest of the doctors will either go out of business or see the light and join us.
Good luck on finding a doctor that will support that way of eating. I’m having the same issue.. 6 years carnivore changed 6 doctors already 🤣🤣🤣. My LDL alone almost 300, triglycerides 35, HDL 81.. they all told me Im in a big risk for heart disease.. 5 years ago calcium score zero… 5 years later calcium score zero as well!! Thank God I listen to my body and on how I feel.. otherwise I would be medicated according to them!
@@PePethePedalPusher Back to your salad !
As I eat 3 thick and tasty slices of bacon...😊
Plus a couple of eggs fried in the tasty fat rendered from cooking the bacon.
And then slice off a bit of butter to wash it all down. I think I’ll go cook some bacon in a slather of butter, and eat a couple eggs!
Might wanna look into the genetic similarities between humans and swine lol
Enjoy
Although Saturated fat is good for you, chicken and pork is full of seed oils (unless you buy pasture raised). Soy and corn feed is very unhealthy for them and for us.
I follow a high protein, high saturated fat diet. My triglycerides are in the 40s.
How’s your ldl and ApoB?
I'm 65, lean and fit, and have not feared saturated fat for ten years. I have high HDL, low Triglycerides, low inflammation, low glucose and low insulin, but high Apo B and slightly high oxidized LDL. I went to a progressive cardiologist for an evaluation because a high level athlete friend in his fifties had a heart attack which prompted my brother (also a high level runner/triathlete) to get a CAC which was 350. The cardiologist did a very extensive Boston Heart panel on me and I've got two copies of the 9p21, the "Heart Attack" gene. He doesn't want me to eliminate sat. fat, but reduce it and he's more focused on improving my nitric oxide and the health of my glycocalyx since Apo B particles can't stick to a healthy, slick artery wall. He prescribed Berberine/Arterosil and Vascanox, all non-prescription supplements and we're going to retest in 4 months. My point is that sat fat is likely not an issue for MANY people who are not inflamed and metabolically healthy, but SOME people need to be mindful.
Fantastic information. A thoughtful, scientific approach to the dietary information. Thanks for your exhaustive research and rigorous analysis.
The more one looks into nutrition science, the more they find out how scrambled it all is. I feel like we need a ‘start over’ on nutrition. To establish basic facts, without decades of biases, that have served us so badly.
Just listen to your body that's the best advice I can give out also don't eat anything high processed food if possible
The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz is a good book on how this all went down. Very enlightening.
Thanks Mike! keep spreading the word!
I’m sure Lane Norton will still try to debunk this video 🤣
He will succeed
@@brandonyoung4910,
As will many!
I’m 57 I used to wonder back in the 70’s why people during the “Little House on the Prairie” days weren’t dying of heart attacks left and right. It was already pointed out then that heart disease was A twentieth century phenomenon. 🤔
Hi Mike I just wanted to tell you thank you so much for all your advice. You are a really good person. What wonderful father you are! Our family has learned so much because of your generosity and good will. Pearls!
So! They got it wrong on saturated fat, cholesterol, and omega 6! God help us and everyone impacted in the last 200 years.
Question now is were we given the wrong information on purpose.
@@loumonte658 Yes, Mike Mutzel knows he providing the "wrong information." These are old studies that even the authors have admitted the results are questionable due to methodological limitations. Mike keeps re-making videos on the same old studies, because all the more recent studies give the opposite results. This is what grifters do. Everyone wants to hear that their terrible eating habits are good for them. Robert Atkins made a lot of money from this grifting. Unfortunately for him, he died young. Mike probably learned from Atkins not to actually follow the garbage diet he's promoting.
@@loumonte658Yes. The sugar industry literally paid for studies to "prove" that cholesterol and fat is the problem, and not sugar.
@@redpillthinking6043The meat 🥩 and dairy industry 🍼lobbied governments so they are not forced to label trans fats on there products as " it's naturally occuring "
Only big bad big plant industries are forced to list it on there nutritional labels as it's " added "
The carnist influncers are happy to talk about the big bad seed oil industries , yet are eerily silent on the above matters .
Wonder why .🤔
@@redpillthinking6043 The adventists' vegetarian/vegan/plant-based propaganda also played a role there. Note that saturated fat is mostly animal based and cholesterol 100% animal based....
I'm 47yo. For about a year, I have stopped eating all industrial seed oils and replaced them by butter, lard and fatty meat. I continue eating some olive and coconut oils as well. Never felt better in my life.
LDL and triglycerides are lower now and HDL doubled.
Same here.
Great video my brother. Love your content and delivery. Thanks!
Thank you so much for your help and advice,
I really appreciate your job. I wish you happiness and peace under the sky of prosperity. All the best.
Take care and have a good time
I listened to this while frying eggs in the butter added to the fat rendered from the hamburger patties I've fried for my supper, because I'm starved after my heavy leg and biceps sets at the gym. I went keto early in the year and my triglycerides fell into normal range and my A1C finally moved down, out of the "pre-diabetic" range-I stayed at c. 220 lbs, but am down to a 33" waist (yes, muscle is heavier than fat). And Ansel Keyes? _Der kann mir den Arsch lecken!_
This
Saturated fat just means the fat is stable and will not course oxidation in the body like PUFAs. PUFAs are the fat people should be scared of they course all kinds of issues within the body specially when processed or oxidised.
Source ‘trust me bro’.
Worst comment by a long shot
Thanks for getting the truth out there. I am always trying to tell people this but it takes a lot to get them to understand what the truth is.
Decades ago when various advice was touted 'Don't eat salt, eggs or bacon, eat low fat, avoid saturated fats' etc....I chose to continue to use butter, eggs etc and fresh foods that have been eaten for centuries. I could not understand why they pushed this advice onto the populous. It is as clear as day to me now though! Follow the money...👀
Money, ego and religion to be sure.
@@dwwolf4636Depop, they use war, diseases, food, water, pharma, the drug trade, abrotion, etc etc, psyops to lower the population.
Thank you for letting us know!
thank you for your work.
Thanks for giving us facts, RCTs! There are so many claims out there, without real back up. I appreciate your work.
I eat around 8 to 10 eggs a day and eat butter like candy, I have not died yet
Whatever you like. Sounds disgusting to me. How old are you? 30? Get back to me when you're 60.
Can confirm you seemed alive 5 hours ago.
@@notanymore9471 still going
People who eat saturated fat tend to have confounding factors like eating processed food, fried food, high sugar food , and soft drinks or other sweetened beverages
There was a study by dome Russian dude in 1800 who did an experiment on rabbits in which he fed the animals tons of saturated fat…. That kind of diet isn’t appropriate for rabbits, so what kind of result would one expect ? Humans crave meat and protein as our ancestors did before the advent of developed agriculture
I will crave specifically beef. Pork seems blah so I avoid it.
Lack of saturated fat will lead to depression and anxiety... contributing to a vicious cycle 😢
I eat 20g or less of saturated fat a day. 600+ carbs. I feel much better than when I was eating 3 lbs of ribeye a day
@@brandonyoung4910Not quite sure whether to take this response seriously. 3 pounds of ribeye doesn't sound necessary or realistic but I wish you the best.
@@kafusada1041 needed the protein. was low carb at the time getting about 120g from berries lol
@@brandonyoung4910You'll have a shorter lifespan if you continue scoffing down 600+ grams of carbs, not very bright huh, but you do you.
That was great 👍🏻 thanks Mike!!
Such good info
You can say this until you’re blue in the face, look at any comment section and see how many people still think saturated fat will clog your arteries and give you a heart attack 🙄
It's the word "fat". It's a scary word. Need to change the word. That's what lefties do.
the brain washing runs deep, driven by fear but motivated by mo ney
It will. It cranks up your ldl and ApoB
@@brandonyoung4910 Well I just did my first health checkup at age 35 after 5 years of mostly ketovore food, and my LDL, HDL, total, triglycerides, Apo-A, and Apo-B were absolutely flawless
@@fredrik1337 that’s awesome. For me when I was eating low carb and 2-3 lbs of ribeye a day my ApoB went to 173 and ldl was 220. Individuality I suppose
Thank you
I eat more animal fat and meat than anybody else I know and I don’t need to exercise my way to staying slim. I also have less body fat than anybody else who don’t do a lot of resistance training and less than some who do. It’s not the saturated fat from animals they got to worry about, it’s the carbs and fake plant fats.
Yeah the egg yolk thing makes no sense when it's the whites of the eggs that can cause a lot of people allergy responses and some digestive issues
Saturated fats are inert, unlike polyunsaturated fats.
I usually have good cholesterol lvls, and I was low fat high carb high protein diet, and my cholesterol was fine, just normal, but since I started bulking like in 2 months ago, I've been eating a lot of fats in general and still high carb, including tons of saturated fat, and my cholesterol and all related to heart health are exceptionally good now since I checked my blood work a few days ago, and also my hormones are functioning way better, but curiously enough, my father who has high cholesterol and triglycerides but bad, eats very little saturated fats and still has very high cholesterol of the bad one. I also do Intermittent fasting as always. Best
Cholesterol is what the lipoproteins of ldl and hdl carry . Tryglycerides are damaged ones . They were damaged by vegetable oils and sugar. Good luck getting anyone to believe you. Paul Mason , Ken Berry , Tim Noakes
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This was a good informative podcast, Mike. You have rationally refuted the old guidelines about the connection between saturated fat and heart disease.
I agree with you totally.
We use ghee in our cooking. This is a healthier saturated fat containing omega 3 fatty acids.
Our age-old medicine in India, namely Ayurveda, advises to eat at least one teaspoon of ghee made from cowmilk on a daily basis for good health.
What is your take on this?
Would love a video on how you make your fermented salads.
I cut my saturated fat intake and switched to extra virgin oil as main fat source, replace refined carb by wholewheat/whole grain, my body fat composition drop from the regular 11% to 8% in a few months without changing my calorie intake and exercise routines. I am 56 and exercise 7 days a week with weights, cardio and walk 8km everyday. I am more ripped than most guys in the gym in their 20s. I have been lifting weight for 35 years (never do PED).
I starved myself fat and sick on 1200 low fat, high fibre calories a day for decades. Had an active job and went to the gym daily. Barely fit a size 18. My cholesterol was too low and my triglycerides were too high.
While some people can eat grass, many can't.
no meat?
I just eat a balanced diet with fairly high protein intake, high vegetable/ wheat fibre intake, and never count calories. I don't eat junk foods/highly processed meals and stuff with added sugar. I don't have sugar in my kitchen for years. As I wrote, I don't go on low fat, I add extra virgin oil to most of my cooking and nuts like almonds to my daily fat intake.@@dawnelder9046
Your bodyfat levels are way too low and unhealthy, the fact that you said you never did (PEDS) indicates to me that you have used them. No human should ever be at single digit bodyfat, even 11% us way too low.
Ok but and what about high fat (all types) and colestrol with high carbohydrate effect on CVD? excelent video!
Good thing you gave credit to keys for the Minnesota study that he hid because it didn't support his cause.
Had a coworker tell me her husband is vegan and on a statin because of his cholesterol “problems”. When I showed her some of the evidence that saturated fat is fine, possibly even protective, it was like her brain could not comprehend the info. I’m not a doctor though, so I don’t know what I’m taking about, was her attitude. 🙄 Thanks for always sharing what you learn, Mike!
I actually have a family member who has been vegan for over 40 years and she has very high cholesterol. She attributes it to age. I'm amazed that she isn't making the connection
@@Isuyomi It’s not like we make any money off our friends or family for trying to show them the info. 🫠But their doctor is still bringing in the money if they don’t even try to look for root cause.
Ancel keys was the billion killer!
Daily,eggs,butter, coconut oil, meat and I'm good to go,look younger,feel vibrant and healthy.
And Red Palm oil, belive me : i eat since children: anti cancer,forever Young, seretonine, so much energy.
@@anarita6355 great where can I get red palm oil?
Mike, love the content as always. Can you talk about Saturated fat’s impact on blood sugar and insulin? Some people
say that it’s more insulinogenic and can drive insulin resistance. Wondering how that ties in with the longevity thing or if there’s any truth there?
Sweat, been curious about this for a while. Thanks Mike!
I actually wonder if it had an evolutionary advantage to be more insulinogenic
I have increased my saturated fat by quest a bit, butter in my coffee, ghee and bacon fat. If has real helped my anxiety and depression. I also gut issues which have really improved with my fat up take, and I am doing all of this without a gallbladder. I do use a small amount of ox bile with my meals. I also feel by increasing my protein I have felt so much better. I have had tummy troubles for 10 years, this has been a welcomed change!!!
Never tried butter and coffee, but Mascarpone cheese in coffee is amazing.
Same here skin problems healing after a short time.
You should get Layne Norton on and talk about the dreaded seed oils.
Nice information. Just added to my confusion about what I should or shouldn't eat to lose weight and remain healthy into old age. Thanks!😊
No need for confusion... just do the exact opposite of whatever your government guidelines tell you.
@@bushpig6837To be fair, they do actually recommend against junk food. However they claim that Lucky Charms are healthier than chicken so I guess they don't consider them to be junk food.
@@bushpig6837 Exactly!
Where’s the confusion related to losing weight. You just gotta eat less, it’s calories not rocket science
Is Zoe Harcombe’s advice based on solid scientific evidence?
Another great video encouraging us to wake up from the magic spell of the food 'authorities'.
People will openly admid that Smoking is bad and scientests would modify data to make smoking seen as good or neutral for decades. Why is it hard to think this kind of twisted information wouldn't happen elsewhere.
Besides the control trials for humans, I was just watching an infomercial by Dr Marty for dogs. He came to the same conclusion for dogs years ago. Those that were metabolically damaged and in bad shape, do great on primarily raw meat diets with small amounts of vegetables and grains to mimic when a wolf had killed an animal and found past vegis and grains in the digestive system of the pray. Dogs recover when they are on a similar diet with low carbs and sugar.
Can genetics affect how one responds to saturated fats
I think Attia covered this study recently, as well.
I've discovered goat-ghee & it's a lot more compatible with my system. Great for cooking.
Interested in seeing link to studies when posted please.😊
Good luck with that…
Full PDFs at the links.
www.bmj.com/content/bmj/351/bmj.h3978.full.pdf
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4316589/pdf/openhrt-2014-000196.pdf
I am 66 yrs old. Raised on farm food: lard, tallow, real butter, whole raw milk, red meat, lots of fresh chicken eggs.
To this day I still render my own lard and tallow and eat excessive amounts of saturated fats.
My blood panel says my risk of heart disease is a negative % and life expectancy is over 90.
I haven't been to a doctor nor had any illness for over 22 years... Not even a headache. I took care of siblings with covid (I didn't wear a mask or get jab) and never got covid.
I also get excessive sun exposure since I was 3 years old but no cancer.
By medical standards and ADA standards I should have died in my 30's.
Too bad my siblings listened to the propaganda because they have had heart disease.
Yet here you are commenting on a CZcams video… how do you have the time with all that lard rendering and sun exposing ???
I wonder where Peter Attia is getting the info that apoB is affected by levels of saturated fat. ApoB being a risk factor metric for AS/CVD.
100% agree with you. We have been buffaloed.
What about high fiber does that effect LDL i recently reduced my dietary cholesterol some but increased my fiber intake a lot because my LDL is high and the doc wants me on a Staton
Gona check my numbers again in a couple months
Before 1920 all we ate was lard and animals fats for 100,000+ but now it bad for you all of a sudden. Why I think a lot of this is malicious.
As long as you stay within your caloric needs, none of it will be stored as fat. Not sugar and not saturated fat. Most obese people don't eat low fat. Not low anything actually. High fat and high carbohydrate... high calorie.. and little to no exercise. And obesity is what can cause all these issues, diabetes and cardiovascular disease.
Saturated fat and leaky gut: any concerns? What amounts are "safe'?
Butter is awesome for the brain.
An excellent report... at last, the truth is out and I for one will still snack on my 3 eggs per day... at 72yrs old no less!
Sometimes words matter so the fact that carbohydrate has the word hydrate in it makes you wonder why and well it helps retain water just like saturated fats are soluble in the body in hormones like to utilize fats
If it doesn't make sense just think about how much water weight people lose when they cut out carbs but also how much energy and youth they lose when they cut out healthy fats
Carbs hold excess water, its an inflammatory response increasing blood pressure , the toxic overload is another strike against carbs
Hi Mike, are you familiar with Cochrane study that shows saturated fat to be causal? Stan Efferding likes to cite it when you challenge him on his low saturated fat dietary recommendations. I've not had time to look into it but I don't hold Cochrane as a religious authority, studies always have financial interests and influence and meta analysis is still subject to garbage in garbage out imo. Don't suppose you've done a video on the above mentioned study before?
Vietnam War- Young soldiers, late teens and 20s coming back in body bags. They grew up on the '40s '50s food pyramid. Beef, pork, bacon, eggs, cheese lower part of the pyramid. Veggies, fruits, legumes, grains at higher part of the pyramid.
Autopsies on a lot of them showed 20%, 40%, 60%, in some cases 80% blockage.
The 40s 50s and 60s had folks eating lots and lots of Crisco and smoking lots of cigarettes. Folks of the 1800s ate lots of beef pork bacon and eggs and back then heart attacks were very exceptionally rare. Heart disease is a disease of modern man, not our ancient ancestors. It's rise began in the late 1800s early 1900s. before then it barely a thing and did not even have an official death code for records!
when i try to pass along information about diet and health, people get mad. i think they just want to be sick. and, well, that's up to them, i guess.
In the 1950's a biochemist who lived to age 102, Dr. Fred Kummerow got the arteries of people who died from heart disease and found out in his lab they all had high levels of artificial industrial trans fats in there, not butter or olive oil. He said saturated fat is neutral if consumed in small amounts but if too much then it will cause a problem just like too much of anything.
Anyone who cuts processed foods and eats real food including Saturated Fat will know for themselves they are doing good......they will feel it throughout their own body.
I think the biggest thing is making sure you get your protein around .8g per pound of bw. The other macro nutrients shouldn’t make to much of a difference IF calories are equated and you’re not eating in a surplus. Also making sure you get some kind of strength and cardiovascular exercise. Thanks for the video
No dietry need for any carbs...fact
So I can eat a cake every night as long as I eat 120 grams of protein and don’t gain weight? Good advice. Thanks😅
"We don't have time to wait for evidence, we need to act now!". Sound familiar? Hmmmmm.
Yes. Most dietary guidelines are bogus. Doctors themselves are clueless in matters of diet!
Who peer reviews Harcombes paper, is it Chris Kempczinski? 😂
I am literally listen to this while rendering lard, 😂😂😂
Just like a lot of things I think overconsumption of saturated fat could do more harm than moderate amounts of it but modern guidelines have shifted to as low as possible and avoid it at all costs which is what you should do for the processed carbohydrates sugars grains and fake synthetic "foods" moderate them to near zero so almost never and avoid them completely if possible I think if someone is very metabolically ill they are overweight and they struggle to lose any weight at all and they struggle to exercise they need to very aggressively eliminate excess sugar, eliminate the refined carbs, the processed food, probably eat zero grains or a very small amount (we really don't need grains) and at every meal have their protein source of choice with some vegetables and some fruit and then things like yogurt that you can sweeten yourself with fruit and you're not drinking fruit juices without the fiber and then maybe get some fermented foods for the probiotics (which we all benefit from) because there's definitely some gut issues going on that need to be healed because the microbiome being messed up is a given if someone is overweight but I think if someone goes on a carnivore diet yeah they could have a stroke or a heart attack if their current condition has set them up to be on the way there already so I think saturated fat probably can be overdone to a point until that person is metabolically healthy and active again but even for a metabolically healthy person I'm not so sure carnivore is such a great option long-term it could be a good elimination option but I still think a whole foods only approach is the best for most people. Not vegan or vegetarian, no not good either.
i really wanna see u talk to thomas delauer on this cos hes said to limit it
Thomas is an idiot who has no idea what he is talking about.
So, replacing saturated fat with carbs is bad. But what about replacing saturated fat with olive oil? Any studies on that?
When I was a child the father of my best friend was eating a lot of meat, cheese and butter (we was from Normandie and very proud of dairy products from his region). He died of a heart attack before 40.
I heavily reduced my saturated fat intake. My cholesterol dropped A LOT and my blood pressure dropped 20+ upper and 10+ lower so idk. Lowering it worked for me. Was THE only change I made.
High cholesterol is irrelevant , not a biomarker of heart disease....geriactrics with high LDL generally outlive those with lower LDL, Proffessor Bart Kay
How does saturated fat intake affect lipoprotein A and apolipoprotein B?
According to Peter Attia, reducing saturated fat reduces APOB?
Considering that every calorie, including those from all so called healthy foods, that cannot be metabolized immediately is converted and stored as saturated fat for later use. Nobody has ever given me convincing explanation why eating directly what the body produces from i.e. carrots to store the excess energy should be particularly unhealthy.
In particular if saturated fat were as bad as bad "science" suggests, evolution would have led us to store carbs directly and not store it as fat. The fact that we cannot store lot of carbs really suggests that fat is better than carbs. Logic beats misled science I would say.
People who eat lots of meat often live unhealthy in general. I eat lots of meat and saturated fat but I dont smoke, drink very moderately, exercise 6hrs per week and always add vitamin or fibre rich sidedish veggies to the meat. I'm absolutely convinced if you take a million like me you bust every satfat/meat is bad study.
McGovern was a tool shed. Wish other politician's would learn from the past but I'm not holding my breath.
FAT and CARBOHYDRATES are not the problems. It is excess consumption.
Would you also say ApoB, Lpa and LdL doesnt matter? Because saturated fats raise those number insanely high in my body
Gee... Politicians dictating health policy... History repeats itself.
Doesn't peter attia agree that saturated fat effects heart disease? And to use leaner cuts of meat? For certain populations.
I’ve been doing low carb, high fat, high protein. My cholesterol is 307. HDL 70 , LDL 218, Trig 96. Last year my numbers were 250. HDL 49, LDL 169, Trig 161. My doctor is losing his mind, trying to scare me into statins, never going to happen. I’ve actually never felt better. Also all my other blood work is great. I eat 5 eggs and 2 strips of bacon every day.
Yeah, those levels looks absolutely terrible. Can you do Apo B test?
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Modern medicine isn't there for helping you at all ! At least not on dietary norms or needs the only use I see it's when you have an infected body limb or something of sorts
What calcifies the arteries?
inflammation
According to Mastering Diabetes, they said saturated fat will make you insulin resistant and eating high carb (low starch) plant based diet will cure your diabetes. Now I am 100% confused.
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Here's a ChatGPT summary:
- For the past 35 years, dietary fat, especially saturated fat, has been demonized with guidelines promoting a low-fat diet.
- Six randomized controlled trials (RCTs) show no support for these dietary guidelines, which affect millions in the US and UK.
- No evidence from RCTs indicates that a low-saturated fat diet reduces cardiovascular disease or mortality.
- The first paper discussed is titled "Evidence from randomized controlled trials does not support the introduction of dietary fat guidelines in 1977 and 1983."
- The paper reviewed RCTs comparing low-saturated fat diets to control groups, finding minimal evidence to support dietary fat restrictions.
- The trials included in the review lasted more than a year and involved individuals who had already experienced a heart attack.
- The six RCTs involved 2,464 males, showing minimal differences in cardiovascular disease outcomes between those reducing saturated fat intake and those on a normal diet.
- Another study titled "Intake of Saturated Fats and Trans-Unsaturated Fats and Risk of All Cause Mortality, Cardiovascular Disease, and Type 2 Diabetes" reviewed observational studies and found no excess cardiovascular risk associated with saturated fat intake.
- The US has taken action to remove partially hydrogenated vegetable oils from its food supply.
- Dietary guidelines should consider the effects of replacement nutrients, as replacing saturated fats with carbohydrates or industrial seed oils can be unhealthy.
- The history of dietary guidelines in the US and UK is discussed, with a focus on the lack of evidence supporting the introduction of low-fat dietary recommendations.
- The seven-country study by Ancel Keys is mentioned, which suggested a relationship between saturated fats and serum cholesterol, but Keys acknowledged that epidemiological studies cannot establish causation.
- The meta-analysis of six RCTs available at the time of issuing dietary guidelines showed no significant differences in all-cause mortality or deaths from cardiovascular disease between intervention and control groups.
- The reduction in serum cholesterol levels in the intervention groups did not result in significant differences in mortality, questioning the role of cholesterol as an intermediary in cardiovascular disease.
- The conclusion is that dietary advice was introduced without sufficient evidence from RCTs, and current statistics on cardiovascular disease mortality suggest that dietary recommendations have not significantly reduced deaths.
- The video encourages viewers to reconsider the belief that saturated fat and dietary cholesterol are harmful, as this is not supported by high-quality evidence.
- Main message: The dietary guidelines promoting low-fat diets, particularly low in saturated fat, lack support from randomized controlled trials, and there is no significant evidence that such diets reduce cardiovascular disease or mortality.
A short one year study does not contain enough deaths to show an increase in mortality. this does not mean saturated fat is not causing an increase in arteriosclerosis. it’s like doing a 1 year mortality trial with cigarette smoking. You could have 1000 patients and have 0 deaths in 1 year. Does this mean cigarettes smoking is safe ?
Which diets/nutrients cause atherosclerosis?
high carb, processed food and bad cooking oil
It's not just about diet in the first place. Stress, for example, plays a huge role.
Anything that promotes chronic activation of the randle cycle
Saturated fat… when they want to study atherosclerosis in lab animals, you know how they give them clogged arteries to begin with? Just feed them lots of coconut oil, since it’s a cheap source of saturated fat. It works.
Going to make a quick point here. I am 42 years old about to be 43. How many times have I heard it on that box where they have flip-flopped on eggs alone when your eggs are terrible for you five years later they’re wonderful for you another five years later well that might not be as good for you as we thought All to cause chaos and confusion
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