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The Grave - Twilight Zone Episode REVIEW
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- čas přidán 14. 01. 2023
- Up next on the Twilight Zone REVIEW Marathon is 'The Grave.' Lee Marvin stars in this old-west ghost-story about a hired gunman and an outlaw who took his grudge to the grave.
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I always skipped the Western episodes as a kid, but I came to love this one when I finally gave it a chance.
I hear you. The Western ones and the war ones were not my favorites growing up, but now I've grown to love those as well. Thanks for checking in, much appreciated!
Horror Westerns are pretty rare, but when they do happen, I'm all for it. Another awesome video brother 👏
Yeah I feel like I can't recall too many horror westerns off the top of my head. I'd have to look it up to see how many are floating around out there. Thanks Fox! Always glad to hear from you bro!
This is one of the episodes I caught late one night alone in the living room as a little kid.... Needless to say had a hard time getting to sleep that night....Great vid on this spooky Classic episode....👍💀
Hey Bones! Always dig hearing about first watches. For this one, I actually do not recall my first watch unfortunately. The Jungle, which I love I think I fell asleep for a little bit while watching and then woke up & was freaked out by the ending.
Hey everyone. 'The Grave' won the vote to be next on the TZ REVIEW Marathon, so here it is! If you've seen this classic episode and have thoughts or theories - especially on the ending, then feel free to post below. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for more from the 5th dimension.
Another fine choice for an episode review. And you really hit the nail on the head with the rundown look of everything. Westerns of the time were still a bit polished looking by and large. Not all good and crusty as they would soon become. And just such a wonderfully shot episode with top notch lighting.
I would consider this one an early example of Weird West. It's odd that the Western Ghost Story didn't really catch on. As this episode showed, the two genres go well together.
As always, Ant-Man, great stuff and great editing.....That's what she said?
#michaelscott 😆🤣 Hey Rob....yes now that you mention it, this one fits as a Weird West entry. As I recall, Mr. Garrity & the Graves is a little out there too. But in this case, we have Iona and she is certainly on the eerie side. Plus, the concept of a dead outlaw reaching up and grabbing anyone who comes near his grave...awesome stuff and certainly not typical of the genre. Thanks as always for coming by man. Much appreciated. Take care. 🤜🤛
This was an episode I didn't see till I was older but I've heard many variations of this ghost story (ie stabbing a grave and getting stuck) however I didn't know this episode was related so when the ending while somewhat expected was one of my favorites.
Lee Marvin was perfect for the twilight zone
Loved him ever since Cat Ballou (watch it if you haven't)
Great video as always sir
Hey fade2Black! This was familiar to me too. I know for sure I read a take on this story as a kid. Not sure, maybe it was “The Dare” or “The Path Through the Cemetery”. In any case, thanks for checking in and be well!
A very good review. I only saw this one for the first time this past New Year's SYFY Channel Marathon. And wouldn't you know it, I had to let the dogs out when Connie made it up the hill. I never even saw Ione run into him before he sees the grave.
So I missed everything up until the men decided to go themselves.
But of all the theories, you haven't thought of the simplest one: Ione got him.
She was drinking, even said the bottle was for her when she bought it. Dutch courage.
She had clear motive, the death of her brother whom she obviously loved. And vengeance against a sworn enemy - even though Connie wasn't even there when the deed went down - 8 shooters, only one hit, and he bled out - you would think she'd want vengeance against the entire town. But clearly, Pinto considered Connie to be his nemesis and Connie had to pay, not the others.
Then there's opportunity. She was there! Goading him along. Hyping up the danger and the fear. She leaves, but on a dark, windswept night, she could easily slip out of sight and wait for her chance (remember she knew where the grave was, he had to find it in the dark).
Now how she did it without leaving too obvious traces (like a blow to the head)?
She asphyxiated him. Not strangled exactly. But pressing his face into the dirt, even bending and pressing the head back to close the windpipe (do that by kneeling on his neck). It could bring on the heart attack/die of fright that folk would be satisfied - you see what you look for and the common clay of the West ("you know, morons") wouldn't have known the difference unless there was unmistakable bruising.
SHE pulls on the coat and trips him down, then holds him (I dont think she could have hidden in the grave itself), but build up a panic response and he might not think to look at what or who is holding him, just trying to get away and then reach his gun, even if kicking or rolling over or lashing out barehanded would have been easier or more effective. In times of stress or crisis, people react to their personal training or default. Connie is attacked or threatened? He goes for his gun. Period.
Then when he's dead, gun just out of reach, she stabs the coat and the grave. She would have had to do that last or else risk the Bowie cutting the fabric and setting the coat free. The coat was pinned but just taut. Any pulling by Connie would have cut the cloth more than a simple thrust.
And she was there at the discovery to give everyone enough pause to stop further inquiry into the uncanny "wind's blowin' South".
Yes, from the first second at the final gathering, I knew that she'd helped her brother get away with murder and she was the dead man's hand.
Occam's Razor guys, or as Sherlock Holmes says, after eliminating the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, is the truth.
Now that's definitely a solid theory. I like it! Very interesting. As you noted, she certainly had the motive and opportunity.
In regards to the 'how', well if we go the full on supernatural route, I can also imagine a scenario where Ione was hearing her brother's voice in her head and she just let him do the deed. But she did her best to make sure Conny went to the grave by fueling the fire along the way and goading him on. That's what great about these types of endings, they leave room for some fun ideas.
Hey, Anthony! This is a really great breakdown of the episode.
What's funny is that I called the ending immediately, because I used to read the old urban legend/horror story that this is inspired by.
It's about a girl who is dared to visit a grave and leave a knife, then is unintentionally scared to death when she accidentally stabs her dress in place.
Even crazier is that when I looked up the name of that story, there was a blog post referencing this episode! 👌👌👌
Same here man, it was a very familiar story, not so much the Western aspect, but the grave and the dare.....maybe we read the same book. Ha ha. I think I recalled the ending afterward though. Thanks for watching D! Be well man.
A favorite of mine! I love westerns! My dad got me into them! 😁Thanks for recommending your friends channel!
Aw that's cool, did not know that. Thanks for checking in Nye, and also thanks for checking out Leslie's spot, he knows his stuff when it comes to Westerns. Be well, have a nice week ahead. : )
Another great review Anthony...that cast is great. I also liked you mentioned Have Gun,Will Travel....best Western ever made.
Hey Patrick! Thank you for checking in. No doubt, had to mention Have Gun,Will Travel... also in honor of the Have Cheetah, Will View!
Whew! What a cast! Six months after this episode aired, Marvin, Van Cleef and Martin appeared in John Ford's "...Liberty Valance. " One of several TZs focused on a western motif.
Very good episode! Like a lot of people I first came to know James Best on Dukes, but over the years I discovered his earlier career in other projects like this and the Andy Griffith show. His classic Twilight Zone where he dies and comes back to life is one of my favorites. And it's great to see Lee Marvin and Lee Van Cleef together since they worked so well in Liberty Valance. One of the best things about The Twilight Zone was seeing all these well known actors.
Hey wassup Rob! Good to hear from you. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is high on my watch-list. Over the last few years I've checked out more Westerns and grown to appreciate the genre. The ensemble cast in this episode alone really sent me down the rabbit hole on so much fun tv/movie trivia. 😁 Thanks for checking in, have a good one!
Strother Martin too🤓😎✌🏻
This is one of my favorite episodes. A well executed story with some of the better performances you'll find in the series. Except for Ioan's laugh. It sounded to me like she'd never heard a laugh before and was just reciting what was printed in the script. :D
Ha ha, yeah I was curious what others thought about the laugh. Thanks for checking in NCT! Have a good one.
lol, Ione's laugh is so different from her speaking voice that I always assumed the laugh was dubbed. Maybe they thought the original performance didn't sound creepy enough?
The only way Ione's laugh could be more sinister, more haunting, more insidious, more blood curdling is if it sounded like Hillary Clinton's or Kamala Harris's laugh.😳😱
@@bbbnnnlll actually, I think you’re right! First laugh of hers that’s shown in this video sounds a lot more like it’s on the actual recording, rather than dubbed in. The next laugh that we hear definitely has less of that film grain sound to it. I think the first less, which sounds more normal, wasn’t dubbed, and the second one was.
I always liked this episode. It was just dripping with atmosphere.
Hey watchwaddle! I am with you, I dug the old-west setting here, so beaten up and lived in. Thanks man. 🤜🤛
The Western episodes of TZ are often hit-or-miss but this one is excellent! A great cast and a weird, ambiguous story where you can't truly be sure who to trust or what actually happened. And I know I can't be the only one who thought that Stafford Repp was actually Irish after seeing him on Batman! He faked a pretty good brogue I'd say...
Hey Betamax, hope you've been well! Yeah I'm curious about the others western episodes. I know Ive seen them all but I'd have to watch them again before a review. I recall some of them being a little hit and miss too. Anyway, thanks for checking in, be well!
Anthony,
Hahaha, what a surprise this was. I noticed a bump in my sub count and this surprised me. As I usually get 1 or 2 new subs a day, but to get a bump within an hour’s time is unusual.
And then I saw this video.
First: this was a great one! I loved that moment of humour as well as the usual different perspectives of what happened (but this is as par for the course)
And second, thank you for the shout out. I do appreciate it.
I uploaded a video (not yet released to the public) which I wished I had shouted you out on as I think you would appreciate the movie, a Mexican western called Hot Snake.
In place of that, I will review this episode of The Twilight Zone to return the kindness and because I think it would be a fun one to do. Or if you have a western you’d like me to tackle, let me know.
Thanks again, man. It is much appreciated!
Hey wassup Leslie! My pleasure on the shout out man, just keep doing your thing! And sure, I'd love to hear your take on any of the TZ western episodes, that sounds awesome. Be well & have a good one!
Another great analysis! The Grave is one of my faves for sure, nicely done. 👍
Thank you kindly radiogirl85. I appreciate hearing that. Have a good one. : )
The Grave is also one of my favorite episodes. I always view it when I pull out my Blu Ray set.
I loved Dukes of Hazzard as a kid and didn't realize for years that was the guy. And The Last Rites of Jeff Myrtlebank. Man, they should have made a whole western with Lee Marvin and Angel Eyes.
Awesome video dude. I love a western and the cast here is phenomenal. Makes it seem almost like a movie with Lee Marvin and Lee Van Cleef in there. Superb as always, Anthony!
Hey wassup Greg, thank you for checking in man...yeah this episode was probably one of my favorites from the group of Western TZ's. Lee Marvin & Lee Van Cleef were great, in the case of Lee Van Cleef, something about him is just terrifying, ha ha. Have a good week ahead!
@@FeverDreamlandTheater absolutely dude, he's a menacing mf
Awesome review Anthony! I only saw this one for the first time last year and I love it.
Heeeey wassup Selina, good timing then and glad to hear you enjoyed this one! Much thanks for coming by, I appreciate it. Loved you latest sci-fi review BTW! Looking forward to more. Take care! 😁
Thank you for reviewing "The Grave". Another one of my all-time favorite episodes I love to play around Halloween time, but honestly I love to watch it anytime the mood moves me LOL! 👍💯
Thanks RG, glad to hear you enjoyed it. Have a good one!
@@FeverDreamlandTheater I would love to hear your review of the "Queen of the Nile" episode in the future. Thanks 👍💯
Spooky happenings in the wild west! :) Sounds like an intriguing concept! Loved your insight! :)
That it is my friend, much thanks for checking in as always. be well SciFirst!
Don't forget The two Lees and Strother Martin were the villians in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance🤠🤓😎✌🏻
Outstanding work Anthony. I did catch this one many years ago. Great to see Lee Marvin in The Twilight Zone
Much thanks dude! Appreciate you checking in.
Great review and narration! I didn’t know Lee Van Chef (don't know if I spelled that right) was in a Twilight Zone episode. I will put it on my watchlist.
Hey wassup Scofield. Thank you for dropping in. This episode is currently free on Pluto TV.
All I really want is to live inside of a Twilight Zone episode.
Sounds like a solid episode (even if it could have been stolen 😂).
I tend to avoid most western stuff unless I’m told “You have to see this. It’s amazing”.
Great quality bud as always Anthony!
Ah ha, well I hear you, I used to feel about the same. I think Good the Bad and the Ugly was my gateway and just over last few years I've come to appreciate westerns a lot more. Thanks as always for checking in Lisa, have a great week ahead! : )
I love Ione in this. She's almost like the spookiest part. The cemetery set is soo good.
Hi Susan, I'm a fan of Ione too. She was the wildcard in the mix. She's grieving for the loss of her brother and seeking vengeance in such a creepy manner, so there's a lot there.
Was the wind blowing it across the grave?.. (creepy laugh)
Serling already did very similar episodes about DEATH and Grave Sites in his earlier show THE OUTER LIMITS also on CZcams
Hey Anthony! I'm a little late in getting to this one but great job on another fantastic review! I'll admit I think I've only seen The Grave maybe once, and I liked it but after watching this, I really feel the need to go back and watch it again because there seems to be a lot more that I didn't notice on an initial viewing, especially the quality of the cast. I had no idea there were so many great actors in this episode, including Lee Van Cleef, and I can't believe I missed that. Interesting you bring up TZ westerns which I always think are a curious lot and my opinion on them has evolved over the years with a greater appreciation as I've come to enjoy general westerns more and more. As for this episode's message, it really seemed like a tale about the dangers of hubris to me which is always a relevant one. As always, looking forward to your next video.
Hey Cinecrisis! I find that in reviewing these, I tend to like them more on a repeated viewings. Except for 'The Bard'...lol...that one I don't know. : ) I'm on the same page with westerns, up until a few years ago I'd only really seen Good The Bad and The Ugly, but my appreciation has grown for them big time. Now it's a matter of catching up with some of the big ones I've missed over the years. Anyway, thanks as always for writing, have a good week ahead man.
It's funny how gun shots never make holes or draw blood. It's the phantom invisible wound death. 😁
LoL, true. 😁
Solid episode. The cast is really amazing in this! Awesome review Anthony!
Yeah this was quite an ensemble. Lee Marvin held the spotlight but everyone else was really amazing. Thanks Mr. Dan. have a good one!
Have not watched yet.. but very intriguing.. this will be on my must watch list 👍
Cirespeed! No prob man, all the same, much thanks for coming by man.
I always thought episodes like this were cool, showing that the Twilight Zone could happen anywhere, anytime, and blend genres superbly. That laugh always felt so uncanny. Also, I'd forgotten, but the episode's score at the start of your video is a very Westernized take on the Dies Irae motif - a nice bit of musical foreshadowing that also meshes the genres.
That laugh....it was definitely out there. ha ha. I think covering this one has me more excited to go through the other western episodes down the line. Thanks as always for checking in Gory Rory. Be well!
Awesome video here Anthony always great to see u posting
Hilda! Much thanks, have a great week ahead! : )
Another TZ episode I have yet to watch. This one looks like the atmosphere is good and spooky. I'm gonna hafta do a TZ marathon one of these days, a few of them in fact.
Heeeey wassup Rainbow. Pluto has some of them streaming for free now, including this episode I think. Much thanks for checking in & have a nice week ahead. : )
Such a great cast in this one and that creepy laugh she does........there just are not actors of this stature anymore
Well, Anthony, I'm finally getting around to this one, which is odd, because it's a favorite. As usual, your review does it justice, and yet I think there's more to cover than you had time for in just 12 minutes.
I don't think Conny's a coward at all, and isn't intended to be depicted as one here, despite a bit of uncertainty about what exactly occurred or didn't occur between he and Pinto and his curiously feminine-sounding name. (Actually, the only famous men in real life I'm aware of named Conny/Connie were the baseball commissioner Connie Mack, his grandson Connie Mack III and great-grandson Connie Mack IV, the latter two of whom having served in the U.S. Congress representing the State of Florida. Incidentally, on the rare occasions when we hear of a man called Connie, it's a affectionate form of the name Cornelius (a century or so ago it was a name more commonly used for men).
In any case, the fact that he pulls his gun as Ione enters the saloon the first time doesn't strike me as cowardice. Conny's a gunfighter and a bounty hunter, and as such, always needs to be ready for action. The other men there show themselves to be cowards when it takes all of them in hiding places to take down Pinto, and they later mouth off to Conny as though he's as frightened as them, but cowards don't do what he does for a living (Pinto's claim on his deathbed to the contrary ups the dramatic tension). As for Conny hesitating before thrusting the knife into the grave may show him to be less than fearless in that situation, but iI think a lot of is how Ione has him spooked.
Speaking of Ione, I agree that she is the character after Conny who is most intriguing. There's something about her portrayal by Elen Willard that I find witchy, I'm not saying she's necessarily being depicted as a witch, but there's something about her laugh that suggests to me that she has a connection to the dead that is preternatural. (As far as he putting the plate on her brother's grave, I did some searching for this custom in folklore, but without luck.) For me, Ione's witchiness reaches its crescendo in the penultimate scene where she confronts Conny in the graveyard, the wind wildly blowing her cape, and punctuated by her eerie laugh, she informs him that Pinto's waiting for him.
An interesting footnote about "The Grave" is how three of actors in it--Lee Marvin, Lee Van Cleef, and Strother Martin--just months later later all appeared in the great Western _The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance_ (It's almost like the film used "The Grave" for casting.) Speaking of _Liberty Valance,_ it affords me an opportunity to add a tribute to the recently passed Burt Bacharach, who with Hal David had one of the team's first hits with the movie's equally great title song, but one that no one would identify with Bacharach-David as it's so far removed from their standard fare: czcams.com/video/DZWtlgADNYA/video.html
Hey Galantski, jeez man, I missed this, but I wanted to respond. First off, thanks as always for the feedback and for checking in.
I hear you regarding Conny and the question about him being a true tough guy. That's yet another reason I love this one, so much is open for interpretation. I see your point, cowards don't do what Conny does for a living. You have to be a bad-ass for that lifestyle. So either Pinto is the the exception for Conny or maybe as you noted it's just a matter of him being spooked by Ione or he draws quick as a sign that he's ready for action. Either way, I really enjoy bits like that.
Hope you've been well and are having a good weekend! Be well!
@@FeverDreamlandTheater Thanks for the additional takes, Anthony. I think "The Grave" is grossly underrated. Lee Marvin and the supporting cast are all so good, practically perfect for that episode.
Your reflections about the ambiguities of Conny's character are spot on. Was Pinto the one outlaw with whom he didn't want to mess? Not one of the cowardly townspeople is willing to have a mano-a-mano gunfight out in the open with Pinto, but rather they join forces to ambush him, shooting from hiding places all around him.
Presumably, Pinto was one nasty hombre, but was he so dangerous that not one man in the town was brave enough to stand up to him? (As a side note I have to wonder where the sheriff was or was the town without one.)
But was Pinto really all that tough? So tough that even a seasoned bounty hunter like Conny avoided him? While the fact that he doesn't arrive in town until after Pinto's dead and buried could point that way, I'm inclined to side with Conny, who said that Pinto's claim that he left a clue in Albuquerque, but Conny ignored it, was just another of Pinto's lies. Of course, we can't say for certain one way or another, but Conny was _hired_ to track down Pinto, and it stands to reason that he would have wanted to have done whatever was necessary to collect the bounty, rather than return emptyhanded.
As for the taunts at the saloon, I think Conny could have taken them all on, and left them beaten within an inch of their lives. The only one of the lot I believe he might have more concern over would be Steinhart, who strikes me as the kind of guy who might just have a knife or derringer hidden in his boot.
Lee Marvin was a tough guy in life, having served in the Marines during WW2 in the Pacific Theater and wounded by Japanese machine gun fire and then by a sniper, causing him to spend a year in naval hospitals. He earned the Purple Heart and six other medals. He also played a tough guy in another memorable _Twilight Zone" episode, "Steel", about a future where boxing between men is outlawed and the combatants are replaced by robots.
I recently saw a 1960 episode of _Perry Mason._ "The Case of the Red Riding Boots" (S4 E11) that included Elen Willard in the cast as an innocent student at a private boarding school, and liked her performance very much as it showed she had some range. (She was no weird sister in this one!) Sadly, despite definite talent, her career only included 20 appearances, as she found acting to be too emotionally taxing. Elen's still alive today at 87 years old.
Anthony!!!!!!! How are you doing my friend? This looks like a good one. I enjoy westerns so this combined with TZ is cool. Also I love learning about the actors being in other shows I find that so interesting. Another enjoyable watch!!
Heeey Karen, I'm doing okay. Yes this was a cool one and it had a solid ensemble. I didn't get to go into everyone, but glad I touched on some. Thanks for checking in, much appreciated. 😁 Be well!
Not my favourite of the TZ western episodes but still entertaining. Enjoyed your review. Quality acting apart from the woman that played Pintos sister. A little over the top
Thanks Debbie!
I was waiting for this stop, at The Twilight Zone.
Hey wassup Ty, hope you've been well & happy new year. Thanks for checking in. Yeah I've been dealing with flu and stuff nonstop, but glad to finally get this one out. 👍
@@FeverDreamlandTheater No rush, rest please believe your subscribers has the notification bell 🔔🔔🔔 on.
Wild west + the twilight zone !
I really love your reviews of what Vince Gilligan of Breaking Bad fame calls "My favorite show ever..." (The Twilight Zone)....but for the love of all that's holy you didn't mention Strother Martin (Wild Bunch / Sssssssssss/ Up In Smoke ) Just ribbin' ya. My top Halloween Spooky episodes of the Zone are
1) The Grave
2) Mr. Garrity and The Graves
3) The Fear
4) The Jungle
5) The Thirty Fathom Grave
6) Jess-Belle
Hey David, great hearing from you! Love your Halloween list too. The Jungle rarely gets enough love in my book. Strother Martin was great in this. Sometimes I go with people I'm more familiar with at the time in ensembles, but I'm happy to hear you all note your favs as well. Thanks for watching and commenting. Have a good week ahead. 🤜🤛
That was a great episode.
Wish this was a 2 hour Movie
I hear you, the more I think on this one, the more I can imagine certain elements within the tale being expanded on. Thanks Tracy!
One of my favs,😂.
Like this one James best had many talents
Agreed and he was certainly solid here. Thanks Dale!
Connie died of fright
Western episodes are always fun.
No doubt! Thanks Charles. Have a good one man!
The View Is excellent