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All Hail to Leon! Isnât he great? For those of you who donât know, his channel is Gardening with Leon. Such a sweet man who cares about the environment! Thanks for your version!
Thanks for that
Excellent concept... I would suggest cutting a "X" in the middle of the socked tubing and insert the watering đŠ tube through the "X" and the sock will automatically seal up the hole... you could also put a wine-cork on a stick to act as a "Float-bobber" to let you know how much water đŠ is within your pipes.
Great tips, thanks!!
Put bug netting or something small like that on the overflow and fill tube. Mosquitoes will get in and breed in there otherwise, I made the mistake when i first set my wicking bed up. I also used the socked pipe.
Great idea!!!
thanks
Just use the sock over over flow and fill or hey pantyhose đ€·ââïž
Don't want that!!! Scratchy bumps. NO WAY!
@@codyrussow170 sock! Got lots of odd one laying around. Haha. Great idea!
@@blissfulacresoffgridhomest2098 hahahahaha was referring to the sock around pipe he is using đđ
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Good to know... thanks!
Leon is fantastic. This is what we are doing this year. We are also applying his system to raised beds
Leon Rocks! :)
I made several by using Leon's milk jugs and recycled bottles method inside of 18-gallon totes I had. I didn't use any fabric at all, except for around the watering pvc that goes into one of the milk jugs. Then I added The Tomato Guy's caging and training method. I easily had 50 pounds per plant. I can't speak to longevity. I'll know when I refresh my soil.
That is awesome!
50 LBS is fantastic...!!
My sister makes a system snaking cotton in tubes. She has a reservoir for water and she inserts the tubes in the pots on one end and it drew the water needed from the reservior. She is a landscape designer and has used this in her rooftop gardens. I like this idea. I only wish it could be made with recycled pots .
Wow, that sounds interesting. Lots of different techniques out there to accomplish what we need to do đ
i did similar thing. only difference, i drilll 3 3/16 in. holes at 3 inches. don,t lose soil. easy and its worked well for 3 yrs. now. also the sock material can be found separately{ at home depot} if you already have the 4inch french drain materiall w/o the fabric.
Thanks.
I didnât know you could buy the sock material separate. Thanks for sharing!
Nice point about the air gap. I didn't catch that in any of the other videos. I planted a fig tree in a tub last year and it is doing good. I later read that figs are more of a dry plant so maybe not need the tub? Strawberries love these self watering pots.
I had figs in these wicking tubs for a year or 2, then planted them in the ground.
They did great while they were in the tubs
I received the 5 Earth Boxes to plant my Triple Crown blackberries in. They have been growing in 3 gallon pots since I potted them up from the 1-gallon pots they were shipped in when I received them last summer. My plan was to have one plant growing in each Earth Box. In your video you plant 2 in each one. Given the size of mine now (in 3-gallon pots), should I plant one or 2 in each Earth Box?
Thank you.
I do this same method. I had 500 poly sand bags and that's what I enclose them in. They have been in there five years and they are still working so I guess all is good down there.
Wow. Five years⊠nice!
Protein tubs are a very valuable commodity in northern middle Tennessee, even rural - folks will fight over them.
I did finally find some at a junkyard metal recycling place....
Wicking tubs are getting very popular! :)
Gardening with Leon is such a great channel. That old guy wants everyone to have success, and plant their own veggies.
Very true.
I'm a big fan!
Hi Alan, I was just viewing this video again because of the expense of buying the roll of Fabric barrier to build more tubs. I was watching your video and the pipe I purchased didn't come with the sleeve, but it's a fabulous idea. Upon doing some research, I found that you can buy the "Drain Sleeve" for a 4" pipe for $22 for a 100' section at Lowes or Home Depot. I think this design will work better for me...cost wise...
Sounds great!
This is brilliant. I haven't had to buy pipe yet due to all the empty containers I've saved that still need to be used up. The only difference is the drain hole. I've been using up scraps of pet guard screen wire duck taped to the inside of the container instead. So far, so good. Please keep the videos coming
Will do... keep watching!! :)
"I can't remember what I paid for it..." đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł You remember what you spent for scotch tape in 1999.
Uhhhhh
Probably true. You mustâve been talking to my wife đ
Iâm finally getting around to planting my blackberry plants in my Earth Boxes. Couple questions:
1. What percentage peat? I thought I heard 50%, maybe that was minimum? In one of your videos I think you say 60-70%.
2. The directions that came with the Earth Box say to use Dolomite and they specifically say NOT lime. But your other video shows you adding lime. So I assume lime is the way to go?
3. The product directions also say to add Perlite. Is that necessary?
Thanks in advance for answers.
I would say at least 50% PEAT. The PEAT helps to wick the water upwards.
Use regular âgarden limeâ. Some people call it dolomite, but itâs really just a good garden lime. There is a certain lime that youâre not supposed to use and I forget what it is. I think itâs hydrated lime or something like that. Just use a lime that is for gardens and itâll be OK.
No, I never put pearlite in mine. Most potting mixes will have perlite mixed in with it. Itâs the little white specks that look like Styrofoam. Thatâs perlite.
Can't wait to see the difference between all of them
Me too :)
thanks mate, I'm doing this type of thing in my tiny paved townhouse backyard. My young vegie plants a doing really well. I noticed you have loads of land but you still choose this method. Good to see and good on ya.
Thanks, Anthony.
Hope yours do as well as mine have.
Mine have worked great but the black syrup tubs are not as thick as the other color tubs and if you scoot them on concrete they start leaking..
I haven't used any black ones, but YES... I have found a big difference in the thickness of tubs
Thatâs a good idea! I bet it will work great.
Good to hear from you guy.
I really like these better.
Easier to make, and for anyone that can not get any of the "commercial" ground cover these should last longer.
I'm going to do a video on the differences between the Leon tubs and my "hybrids" in a few weeks.
Also, using this pipe would be much easier if making an Earth Box "clone" from a storage tote or something.
(BTW... I have 10 EarthBoxes and I love them so far)
The tomatoes, peppers and BLACKBERRIES in my EarthBoxes look fantastic so far:
czcams.com/video/dJBusjiMFdk/video.html
Making these today... our new neighbors gave us all the sewer pipe we could want, as well as posts and pvc pipe, and all I had to buy was the sleeves ... thanks đ Blessings đ
That is awesome!
Great to meet you last Saturday! đ
@TexasPrepper2 it was such a blessing to glean the wisdom from you about the Blackberries... that's where we are using these wicking tubs... I've 2 hillbilly blue tubs, and these will be our raspberries as well.
Enjoyed the class and meeting your sweet wife. I just want to really thank you for sharing what you've learned and your degree from HKU. I'm working on my 2d PHD from there as well.đ€Șđđ
The past 5 years have been pretty rough and being a bit overwhelmed by all we need to do to prepare and wee started from scratch... your encouragement and teachings have given us the courage, and stick-to-it-ness to continue step by step... now we are so much further ahead that we would have been if we just stayed frozen in overwhelm...
Just saying, you may never know how you've touched our lives.
Blessings đ
Thanks so much for the kind words.
It's nice to know this channel is helping folks :)
Where did you get the blue buckets? Thought I seen on another video, but I can't find the info. Thanks. You made me want to grow some blackberries.
Wicking Tubs:
Here's how to get them: czcams.com/video/SlAOl995SaQ/video.html
Here's how to make them: czcams.com/video/9guNoWP8_ls/video.html
Here's my "Hybrid" tub: czcams.com/video/radHBan7-BI/video.html
Sorry, another question. I did not buy the fertilizer with the Earth Boxes. Would 10-10-10 be ok to use in the initial planting?
Yes, absolutely đđ»
why remove the sock in the first place? ive used the 4" tile with sand sock for years and it works great, no need for fabric.. thanks for postingđ
Fill the bottom with food grade and more stable plastic bottles without lids and holes punch in them. Knot them into or Cover with several layers of old tee shirts, tulle, screening, etc. pretty much free
But... I LOVE my old T-Shirts đ
hahaha
(good idea)
I like this method best of all the systems I've see on CZcams. All though I like the rain gutter system also. đđââïž
I have ALL my blackberries in these tubs now (about 20 tubs):
czcams.com/play/PLutBw50GI1zw9M4UxWAN3n9yeJ_WYS8TD.html
Hey how close do you place your wicking tubs to each other. ?
Can they be placed against one another.
I enjoy watching you informative videos.
You can place them right next to each other if you want to. I spaced them out about 10 or 12 inches apart just for better circulation. I think it might help with fungus controlâŠ
But not sure.
If you are in a tight area and donât have much room then go ahead and leave them right next to each other. It would be OK.
where do you get your boxes. The price range seems all over the place but if there is a good box (dimensions ?) at a decent price
this open container gardening for more people. Thx
Wicking Tubs:
Here's how to get them: czcams.com/video/SlAOl995SaQ/video.html
Here's how to make them: czcams.com/video/9guNoWP8_ls/video.html
Here's my "Hybrid" tub: czcams.com/video/radHBan7-BI/video.html
Hope that helps...
I keep coming back and watching this video⊠I need to make at least 5 more wicking tubs for sum citrus trees , another black berry plant ⊠maybe my high tunnel will be finished soon ⊠I want to be ready to put the citrus trees in there
Nice.
Glad I could help!
You have helped me alot
I do mine, the way you have that drip pipe, I use PVC and a Uniseal to go through. Then when it comes out, an elbow and a short section of PVC into that, cut to the level I want my reservoir to come up to. Then I use that for my fill tube. And, if for some reason I need to drain all the water out, I can just rotate the riser pipe at the elbow so it angles down, and the water drains down to where the pipe goes in. IDK if that makes sense without pics, lol.
Sure it makes sense.
I started to put some L's on mine too. Did the Uniseal work without leaks? What size did you use?
In the summer I have to water every day. Having the L's would increase my reservoir quite a bit.
Paint your wicking tubs and they will not fade in the Sun make sure you sand them so the paint will stick it worked for me
Good to know... thanks!
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I found rolls of pipe filtering socks 4x100â for $40. Cheaper I think to buy rolls of the sock just use as much as you need.
Thanks for the tip!
I have 2 of them made and planted my 2 of my berry vines that i bought like yours ... need to make 4 more for my berries and 2 for my apricot trees
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So if you aren't using a drip irrigation you just fill the reservoir until the water comes out overflow and then do that daily? And if you use drip irrigation it takes care of filling itself? Thanks for all you do! -Kurt
Yes, just water by hand until the water comes out the overflow hole.
Thanks. Great idea. I am trying to grow some veggies this year . I'm using cut in half 275 gallon water totes. Got some from before i put my well in.
Do you really need overflow pipe if you have holes in the pot underneath?
There are no holes in the bottom of the tub. Only the overflow hole on the side. Maybe I didnât make that clear.
Thanks for sharing your idea in this excellent video. Just a question, pls. I don't understand how water gets topped up in the pipes without a vertical watering tube. Does the sole upright watering tube in one of the reservoir pipes somehow top up the water in the other pipes through absorption? Probably a dumb question, but I can't figure this out! Cheers.
Each tub has its own watering tube.
And yes, the water from the bottom tube (with the upright tube) just fills the bottom reservoir with water... and fills up the other 2 tubes that are laying on the bottom.
All the tubes laying horizontal in the bottom of the tub are perforated, plus have the (sock) ends open... so they fill up quickly.
@@BIGALTX All clear now - thanks!
The ground cover I got from Costco has lasted forever and it is lighter and thiner. It has never deteriorated.
Cool. I'll check it out!
Thatâs smart! My drain tubing did not come with the sock over it. Perhaps I could wrap ground cloth around the pipes?
I think that would work.
Just make sure the ends are completely closed.
I think you'd still have to make the snorkel hose and the overflow tube like I did it here. Let me know how it works!
Hey, I've got an epiphany for you.
Instead of those costly tubes and netting in the bottom of the tub, I use three cut off chunks of inch and a half PVC pipe, cut with a pipe cutter to make it nice and smooth, on end, which holds up a circle of plastic (made from a Snap-On 5 gallon bucket lid) which holds a 2-in net pot inserted through a hole drilled at the center, using a hole saw.
I fasten the three chunks of PVC pipe to the bottom of the reservoir container using a few dabs of hot glue. Water is allowed to pass underneath these pipes between dabs of glue, but the glue holds it in place so I don't have to worry about things tipping over as I'm setting things up.
The net pot is lined with a double layer of nylon window screen. The screen offers a good separation layer, holds the growing medium and only allows the tiniest of particles through. It reaches through the bottom of the growing bin and winds up almost touching the bottom of the reservoir. I also put a few dabs of hot glue from the net pot to the plastic growing bin bucket bottom.
I pack the soil very tightly in the net pot before I add the rest of the growing medium. It sits in the water, full of compacted growing medium held in by that window screen and makes a dandy wick.
I pass a 1 inch PVC thin- wall pipe through the growing medium and through the plastic lid all the way to the bottom of the reservoir container, the end of which is cut on a bias, to allow water to flow freely as I pour it down the tube.
I am 74 years old and don't like bending over a whole bunch, so I make the tubes about 3 ft tall and I make the overflow hole in the bottom bucket right next to where I put the filler tube, so I don't have to bend over to see it flowing out, telling me it's full.
I'm all about simplicity, but I don't think I can make this any simpler.
Oh, and did I mention cheap?
For the price of a 5 gallon bucket with a lid and a 2-in net pot, three 2-in chunks of inch and a half PVC scrap, 3 ft of thin wall PVC pipe and a dozen or so dabs of hot glue, I'm an instant gardener.
EDIT:
I realized, too late, that I had explained what I do using 5 gallon buckets, but you use used protein tubs.
That's still no problem, because you can buy a sheet plastic which is made like corrugated cardboard to use as the bottom of your growing chamber, the part with the topsoil and the plant.
In this country it's called chloroplast. In Australia it's called Chloroflute. Go figure.
Anyway, you could figure out how deep you want your water reservoir to be and just measure up a little bit above the drilled drainage hole and circumscribe a circle on the plastic sheet, so that it fits snugly down in the protein tub and hot glue it around the edge. Easy peasy
Well, I haven't seen anyone do exactly what you did, but it sounds pretty cool.
I have seen some folks use net cups, but not exactly like yours... nice
Thanks for sharing
You have some of the best videos of all time
Wow... that made me smile... big!
Thanks!đđ
Rookie question ... If the netting prevents any dirt from getting into the pipes, how are the roots -- that are in the dirt -- going to get any water? I don't get it.
It "wicks" the water up. That's why it's called a "Wicking Tub".
A small % if the soil touches the water and it pulls water up to the roots of the crop
Earthboxes work the same way
Just found the channel researching blackberries binge watching now what size are the tubs height and capacity
They are around 20 gallons. I think they are about 20" in diameter and 20" tall
Here's the best info I have on the tubs:
Here's how to get them: czcams.com/video/SlAOl995SaQ/video.html
Here's how to make them: czcams.com/video/9guNoWP8_ls/video.html
Here's my "Hybrid" tub: czcams.com/video/radHBan7-BI/video.html
I like the way you take the initiative to try new things. I found a large tote at Walmart that cost me eight dollars. I had an old laundry basket that was cracked in a few places along the handles so I flipped it upside down and side that toe and found a really large thick pillowcase that my sister had around. I think itâs denim. Itâs about like a Levi jacket only a little bit thicker. I had my sister so that mate reel into that laundry basket and then I sat it down inside the tote. if you know how a laundry basket is shaped, it comes up, kinda like in a dome in the middle and levels out. There are several holes and the laundry basket for aeration. I put my potty mix in and I am extremely surprised on how much production Iâm getting out of it. not only that, but I can put 10 gallons of water in this thing and I only have to feed and water once every nine days. I took some other steps like painting the tote white, so it doesnât draw the heat from the sun too. I also built a PCV pipe cage around it, and I drape a curtain around it to keep the sun off the toe. makes things much cooler. Thereâs not so much of operation. Iâm thinking about purchasing another tote and lining the original and pouring water in between the two totes to keep it just a little bit cooler. When I do that Iâm gonna put some wheels on it so I can move it around better.
That sounds like a pretty neat idea. Basically youâre making a grow bag⊠If I understand correctly.
@@BIGALTX no itâs going to be a wicking tub. Instead of using the pipes and landscaping tarp, I am using the laundry basket to raise the potting soil and instead of using the landscaping tarp I am using that old pillowcase. Iâll be able to put 10 gallons in it. I just checked it out. thereâs still a gap of about 2 inches at the top. Iâm hoping that will be enough air to air prune.
@@sofakingphat8087 Got it... pretty cool
Do you have to put holes in those black pipe so the water can get in there
No, the ends of them (with the sock covering) allows water to get in
Yes great idea....I just started the wicking tubs in October last year they work great.... I'm going to have to try your way with the sock....
They just seem to be a little easier to make... I like them :)
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Hey there! New subscriber here! Great idea! I'm going to be planting some raspberries and thornless Blackberries soon. You berry patch looks nice and neat! Love it!
Thanks for the sub!
I've been watching every video I can to prepare for North Dakota backyard gardening. I'm doing my best to understand, but I just don't have all my crayons in one box. Has anyone done a glass bottom see through root growth to show just what's going on inside after their built and soiled. The struggle is Real đ€Ł
Saw a guy cut a 1 inch wide vertical strip 5 inch long on the side starting near the bottom going up the side and siliconed clear Plex to cover it on the inside to view water level
It looks like the over flow hole is above the pipe. Water can swamp the pipe. Leon puts his overflow hole 1 inch below the top of what ever it is you are using
The hole is 1" below the pipe, like Leon's.
I used 4" pipe and the hole is drilled at 3".
This is genius. Thanks. Btw, I'm curious what part of TX you're from. I'm always interested in accents and TX is such a big state; there are different accents. I'm guessing you're east TX, maybe toward OK. Am I close?
Yep, ETX but further south of OK
'Bout 1/2 way between Dallas and Shreveport
Sir where can I buy the blue tubs
Wicking Tubs:
Here's how to get them: czcams.com/video/SlAOl995SaQ/video.html
Here's how to make them: czcams.com/video/9guNoWP8_ls/video.html
Here's my "Hybrid" tub: czcams.com/video/radHBan7-BI/video.html
Hope that helps,
alan
Iâm 5â2 walking through the Sutherlands with the pipe over one shoulder pushing my buggy. Lol you are not kidding about it being funny. I knocked a couple folks pretty good.
Hahaha... Folks were looking at me pretty funny.
I bet they were ready to get you OUT of there :)
You can buy the sock *only* at most places that sell the drainage pipe
Probably true.
The sock comes with some of the pipe, but it can be bought separate
Thanks for sharing.
With a 4" pipe you'll have to water more frequently than with a 6" pipe. I wonder if you couldn't stick some crushed rock in the bottom of that bucket, under the pipe with the tube sock on it, to increase the size of the reservoir? I did splurge and buy a huge roll of 6" pipe; yep, it was pricey, but it works so well.
True. In the summer I watered most every day... bit then, I'm in TX.
The crushed rock thing might work.
But it will make the tub pretty heavy if you need to move it around.
@@BIGALTX Maybe some water jugs instead? Or pop cans? Instead of the crushed rock. It'll be light. I don't know. Something modified from the other tubs that Leon shows us how to make. Coffee cans? Sorry, I can't offer more ideas; just woke up anyway. LOL
It's been a year and was wondering if you had good success using the self wicking method? Good production?? I think I'm going to try this year but use 5 gallon buckets as that is what I have on hand
I haven't used any 5 gallon buckets, but I had great success with Earthboxes, Wicking Tubs, and Grow Bags
The Grow Bags were 7 and 10 gallon.
Here's my comparison: czcams.com/video/EklgdNg6WDU/video.html
Hey TP, That looks like a small fortune in potting soil. Are you using name brand soil? Here in GA, Lowes sells a huge bag of soil conditioner for around 3 bucks, that is nothing but ground up pine bark. Would that work in the Leon Buckets?
I think the potting mix you use should have a lot of peat in it to draw up the moisture.
Not sure if ground up bark would work.
This is $13 for a 3 CF bag.
@@BIGALTX I mixed 1/3 compost-peat- coconut coif and i cant get it to wick. any ideas?
Do you need to remove one of the pieces of pipe at the bottom so the soil will be able to wick water?
I don't think so.
There should be enough soil in contact with the water to do the wicking.
With this hybrid, do you just pour the potting soil in on top of the wicking system? Or do you have other components to reach the brim of wicking system? Last Q. I imagine you first water the plant directly over the dirt, but afterwards to you water the plant directly through the tube poking up vertically out of the soil?
In the "Hybrid" tub I just pour the potting mix on top once I get my pipes in place. (make sure it's potting "MIX" not potting "soil"
During the season, you normally water down the pipe, but it's Ok if you water on top too... I do it sometimes (if i'm hand watering)
Thank you!
Did it work out good? Just curious because I got all the stuff to try it.
Absolutely.
STILL using them!
czcams.com/video/SWeyCB4DHxQ/video.html
I wrap mine in landscape fabric. Affordable
Great, thanks for sharing. đđŒ
Can't find these wicking tubs anywhere , I would appreciate any help finding them ,Thanks !
Maybe this will help: czcams.com/video/SlAOl995SaQ/video.html
I like this setup
Should last for years
I think they should last 5 to 7 years. Iâve already had to replace one of these, but the rest of them look pretty good.
Thank you, How long can you keep your fruit trees on their wicking container?
Figs can be kept for a long time. Lots of folks KEEP them in containers for years.
Other trees probably need to be planted in the ground. Just depends on the variety.
I've decided to plant most of mine in the ground.
I'll do a video on it next week explaining my decision. đ
what can i do if I hsve tubs that already have holes in them. is there any way to plug the holes or could I line the tubs with the landscaping thick fabric?đ
I've used caulk and duct tape to plug holes in tubs
Seems to work well.
If the holes are in the bottom, you could line the bottom of the tub with plastic.
@@BIGALTX ok thanks, I didn't think about plastic!
I really like this idea now do you lift the pots to decide when to water again, or do yo just go off the physical appearance of the plant .
Also do you hit the top of the soil with water every time as well. THANKS IF YOU CAN HELP! Great info here.
The pot are VERY heavy when planted an watered.
I just try to water every other day to make sure they're watered enough But now, I've got an automatic irrigation system:
czcams.com/video/0vHU8_fbZ0k/video.html
Is it worthwhile to surround the bin with shade cloth so it doesn't overheat the soil (and the worms) too much ?
I haven't found heat to be a problem for these tubs at all, except they do have to be watered regularly in the heat of the summer.
I only have one question about this socked pipe idea. One thing Leon always repeatedly said is to use "Commercial Grade Ground Cover" so that it lasts longer. Is the sock robust enough to not wear out in less than a year?
That was a concern for me too.
I can't answer, but my reasoning is... that type of pipe is used in French Drains all around the country, in all different climates, and is left in the ground for years and years. I figured it would last pretty long.
What do you think? Do you think that's sound reasoning?
Sorry if I missed this but are the 4" pipes used perforated with small holes all over for the water to leach into or are they solid and the water flows into them from the two open ends?
I these were perforated, but you can use either kind.
Since the ends are open to water coming in, it shouldn't matter
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing. I have these same tubs and am going to try this. I'm in Oklahoma and have tried several methods of gardening on this property. Bugs are horrible out here. I will certainly be doing this. Liked đ & Subscribed. Look forward to learning more. Merry Christmas đ ~Sammie đ
Glad it helped
Hi I was looking at your self wicking tub video with the socks on the pipe,why couldn't you cut the tube length and slide them down in feed sack or corn sack.They are made out of polypropylene and as long as they stay out of the sun they won't rot.
As long as it is water permeable material, it might work.
Some of the feed sacks I get don't look like they would let water through.
I love Leon too. Made my first wicking tub from a rubbermaid tub this year.
So many think it's GOT to be made out of a protein tub (like mine) but a rubbermaid tote would work great!!!
Thanks
How is the comparison between the new hybrid and the Earth Container going?
You could do a double layer of the pipe to make a larger reservoir for water at the bottom.
Sure, but you lose some of the area that the roots would grow in. That would work for some things (maybe shallow rooted) but other things would need the extra room for root growth (like fruit trees and blackberries).
For that reason, Leon uses one layer of 6" in a regular pot, and 4" in pots that will have fruit trees.
Hope that helps,
alan
@@BIGALTX I was thinking that a deeper pot and the extra water capacity would be good for our Texas summers
I don't understand how you get an "air space" since the medium and water are mixed/in direct contact. What am I missing?
The "air space" is the space between where the roots stop and the water reservoir is.
Roots won't travel into an air space.
@@BIGALTX What creates the "air space"? Looks like soil contacts the water around the pipe to the bottom of the bucket. A good example of an "air space" is the Earth Box - the soil stops at the aeration screen, the overflow is 1/4-1/2" below the screen - creating an "air space" (to confuse the matter even more, the roots grow thru the screen into the reservoir). Not doubting the success just don't see the air space? Thanks for responding and enjoy your channel, picking up more than a couple tips. Is there a way I can share a couple photos of my version?
I have 21 Earthboxes.
These tubs are built on the same principal.
The "sock... or Landscape fabric" around the pipe create the airspace.
I'm probably just not able to explain it very well... :)
@@tomdix5167 the airspace comes between your drain hole and the top of whatever you have inside. For an example I'm using a 5 gallon bucket and my drain hole will be about 3 inches on 5 gallon bucket and then I'll have water bottles with lids with 2 holes, one at bottom and one at the top of the water bottle on the inside. The top hole on the water bottle is going to be about an inch above the drain hole, around 4 inches. That inch of space is where the magic happens
Was looking at the pipe that already comes with a sock covering over it and then just covering the ends. Since I have so many to make this year buying a 100â length seems cost effective then covering ends and using zip ties to secure. Thoughts on this plan or things to think about?
That's what I did
I like that method :)
@@BIGALTX thanks!!!! Really enjoy your videos!!!
@@BIGALTX Iâve done sever Mr Leon tubs but small. Finally got the mineral tubs this year. Found 20! Getting hard to find and not for free anymore.
@@andileew830 So true...
Dang it!!!! Iâm 3 HUGE (200 gallons) totes into the conventional Leon method!!! But Iâve got 2 more to build out plus however many more I add to the garden someday
I have some large totes too.
I've been thinking about using them... but not sure
TexasPrepper2 Iâm def glad I did it. The 2 Iâve had established for a few months now are so worth it when it comes to not having to worry about daily watering even though the rest of my garden does, but 1 at a time Iâm converting to self wicking. I donât post to CZcams (yet, maybe someday) but have on my Facebook videos recently my build out of an IBC tote chopped and created into a self wicking & show/talk about my other 2
Is there a way to contact you directly? I'm only about a half hour drive from noonday and I have some questions that are specific to our area.
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Email: Bigaltx@gmail.com
(I donât give out my phone #)
@@BIGALTX
Thank you!
My problem is I have 55 gal cut into half and I have 4â corrugated perforated drain pipe and I can fit 4 pieces tightly, but it seems too tight to allow potting mix in between pipes, and if I only use 3 pieces of pipe thereâs just way too much space between pipes! It will cause the soil/Mix to stay too wet... Any tips?
Cut one of the pipes off a few inches shorter.
You need about 90% of the bottom in pipe.
The soil should only be about 10 to 15% in water to wick.
Too much and you can drown your plants out.
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Help me understand, why so many pieces. Would one snake cut have done the same job?
Sure, You could do just one and curl it around the bottom of the tub
Just make sure no potting mix can get in the pipe.
Either cover it with landscape cloth or use a corrugated pipe with a "sock" on it
How does the water bridge the air gap to get to the soil?
White closely.
A small portion of the soil goes all the way down to the bottom of the tub. The water wicks up through that soil, to the rest of the tub.
@@BIGALTX OK Thanks, that makes sense. I don't know what white closely means, but I can understand that some of the dirt goes lower than the rest of it.
Are these mineral tubs? What is the name of the black pipe?
Protein tubs for cattle/horses.
Here's how to get them: czcams.com/video/SlAOl995SaQ/video.html
The pipe in the bottom is 4" corrugated drain pipe (you can use 4" or 6")
The vertical pipe is 1 1/4" Poly pipe
What diameter is the fill tube and whatâs it made of? Also the drain tube you said was 1/2â is it same material as fill tube?
The 12" drain tube (on these hybrid tubs) is just some of the 1/2" drip mainline I use for irrigation.
The Fill Tube is 1 1/4" POLY pipe.
PVC would work also
What kind of soil do you use in these containers you are planting these blackberries in?
I use BM7 but any good potting mix will work.
"Dirt" will NOT wick the water so you have to use a mix with a lot of Peat in it.
Watch this: czcams.com/video/9guNoWP8_ls/video.html
I bought mine at Loweâs for 6âx 100 for $122.00
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What landscape fabric do you use? Does it degrade and need to replace it?
I wish I could recommend one.
I haven't been impressed by any yet.
My advice is go to a nursery near you and ask what they put down in their hot houses.
If they'll sell you some... buy it... it's the good stuff!
@@BIGALTX what do you use? I bought vevor premium heavy duty fabric from Amazon but it says degradable
@@AngryBearHomestead I bought mine from a local nursery like I recommended before
"Degradable" is probably NOT what you want
Have u ever put grape vines in the wicking tubs
No, but I think that would work great!
Is Mr. Leon your split personality... Cats out of the bag...your Mr. Leon đ€Ż it all makes sense now
Hahaha... we DO think alike :)
What are the type of totes u have the grow bags in?
I got them from a business that was throwing them away 15 or so years ago
They are industrial, very heavy duty totes...about 15 LBS empty
Can't get any more :(
I saw some on Amazon a few years ago and they were 80 bucks each !!
I like the creativity and love your videos. But one question, won't you have more roots setting in water with these hose than with the ground cover cloth? I thought the benefit of the ground cover cloth was to keep the plants root from being drowned in the water? Am a newbie, so bear with me!
It all depends on where the drain hole is.
I have the hole lower than the bottom of the pipe, so there should be a 1/2" to 1" airspace between the roots and the water.
I know some protein tubs come in various sizes like, 50lb, 125lb, and 200lb's. What size are you using? About how many gallons is it? - Thanks!
These are 200LB... Probably 20 gallons
@@BIGALTX Thank You!!!
What should you do if it rains to cover the wicking tub and pvc pipe? I do not have a high tunnel and my tubs would have to stay out all winter. Iâm in NE Oklahoma (Osage County). Also what kind of mulch are you using? Thanks great idea. I like Leon too...
Rain is no problem. These wicking tubs have an overflow hole that lets the water out.
We got 6" a few days ago... no problem.
The mulch is just wood chips.
Thank you so much. We plan on building your cattle panel green house this fall.
Love your Channel!!!
Can I grow blue berry in these boxes?
I've never grown blueberries so I'm not sure.
But, I don't know why you could not
Don't add the "lime" to the soil.
Blueberries like acid soil
Can you post a link for the drain pipe with cover? How long do you think it will last
www.homedepot.com/s/drain%2520pipe%2520with%2520sock?NCNI-5
Someone told me you can buy the "sock" separate, so if you don't need much, you can buy the 10' pipe and get the sock separate...
but not sure
Could you give a list of what you used to make the wick totes and where you purchased them . Thank you in advance. Barbara T.
Where to find tubs: czcams.com/video/SlAOl995SaQ/video.html
I got the corrugated pipe and the filler pipe at Home Depot.
Corrugated pipe: www.homedepot.com/p/Bend-A-Drain-4-in-x-25-ft-Polypropylene-Flexible-Perforated-Pipe-with-Sock-337325BS/205164009
Filler pipe: You can use white PVC, but I used this:
www.homedepot.com/p/Advanced-Drainage-Systems-1-1-4-in-x-300-ft-IPS-160-psi-NSF-Poly-Pipe-X2-125160300/205909035
@@BIGALTX Thank you so much for this information and your quick response. I will let you know how I do with my fruit tree project. It was wonderful that you shared the names of your fruit trees and how some tasted. Again, THANK YOU!
One of your videos led me to Leon, and we have decided to try this this year. We have had dismal results trying to garden in the Arizona desert. Do you think the water will get too hot in 115 or higher degree summer heat?
Ya know u could bury them in ground.then they would be ground temp...contained water...and work pretty good
..only thing is if u pack it in u cant turn the tubs. Maybe use mulch around it....call leon and ask...he is an angel.
@@sislertx Thanks for your suggestion! I drool looking at other people's garden videos! LolđŠđ”đŠ
I agree... burying them or insulating them (newspaper, feed sacks, bubble wrap, etc). I also agree with calling Leon. He took my call and was very happy to answer my questions. He still gives his number on his videos I think.
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I saw a video where they painted the outside of the pots white to reflect the sun and keep the soil a little cooler. We are using black mineral supplement buckets and painted the outside an off white. Hopefully they wonât cook in the Texas sun.
@@sislertx great idea thanks!
Are rocks or pumice needed on the bottom? Or would soil be ok on top of the Reservoir ?
No rocks... just the pipes with the sock on them.
They are working great!
How much of the pipe did you use in each tub? Im getting ready to make my own
I have 3 different kinds of tubs and all of them are different sizes, so it's hard to give you dimensions.
I think it's less than 10' for sure
BUT... here what I will do if I build any more...
Watch Mr Leon's new design: (start watching at about 7:15) - czcams.com/video/w96NCpNNJeg/video.html
I like it, but I would use the pipe with the sock on it like I used in the "Hybrid" video
Just tie the ends of the sock up so no potting mix can get in the pipe
No need to pit the fill tube in the sock like a "snorkel". Just put it down in the tub like he does here.
Does a high humidity environment cause mold to grow inside the tub?
I don't think so, but I AM seeing some algae around the hole. So far it hasn't been a problem
Compare the 2 earth boxes and mineral bucket growing tomatoes.
Will do :)