I've stopped playing high tiers for many of the reasons mentioned. I now play tier 3 to 5, many playstyles are more viable at those tiers and an individual has more impact on carrying the game without getting into the meta of playing the strongest ships and builds
Had a game in my warspite, the players crapped themselves as usual, left the caps, YOLO etc, thankfully a few of us could actually play and managed to win it on kills but I was convinced it was a lost cause
@pads-zr9ln good example of not giving up! I've seen too many players throw away their ships because they think it is a lost cause, only for those matches to be neck and neck in the end game
Okay breaking it down here, what Hipper is trying to get across is, why play other playstyles when the meta build has no competition by far. Why limit yourself or the entire game to one playstyle because it's meta? What I see Hipper doing is showing there's an alternative to the "meta damage build" by for example playing builds like agile builds, detectability builds and speed builds. It gives diversity and opens up possibilities to challenge the set ways of playing, if you watch his videos you know he challenges the game with different builds all.. the.. time... How many CC's actually challenge the game because they are so good they don't get challenged by the game? There are two, Metajerk and Hipper, the rest are either mediocre or "good" compared to the average player. There are also "big" CC's that are straight garbage and I can mention quite a few
It’s understandable that it’s run its course for you for now at least. Thank you for the many great and educational videos you’ve made. Not only were they fun to watch, but taught players how to be better at the game. Cheers and I hope that in time perhaps you’ll wanna play a lil bit again
Very good video. I definitely agree with your first point, bad player base! I am almost to the point of quitting myself. I have been playing the game since the beginning but I am the wrong personality for this game because I am somewhat aggressive and I want to attack and play the game. I played 12 games today and in 8 of them my so-called teammates either sat in the back behind an island, or in 2 games the big BBs just turned and ran away from the action, or in several cases, I spawned at C and the 2 ships that spawned with me went to B and A leaving me alone to get my butt whipped!! This is just not fun. I had a couple of games where my teammates and I worked together, it was fun and we easily won, sadly, that doesn't happen often enough!
One of his points is that one has to have the few strongest ships and commanders to win. That it forces people to play according to a specific meta (including himself).
The fact that the player base is shrinking with a lot of the more experienced players leaving is also compacting the amount of potatoes in every battle which in turn pushes even more experienced players out of the game. It's an ever decreasing circle
I'm unsure whom of yall will read this, but I thought I'd add my story to the mix. I started in May 2019 in beta. (One week after alpha) I joined because my friend told me bout it gave a try and fell in love. Well, 5 years later and I have as well hung up the towel almost at the same time as hipper. The reasons I decided to stop are similar but different. I have a good-sized list but will leave my top 5. 5. The theoretical ships are being introduced at a stupid rate. I'm not an anti paper ship, but it just seems it's one what if after another. Look at the British battle cruiser line. Not giving us queen Mary or indefatigable both real and historical ships. That and these dumb as turning torpedos. 4 carriers- I dont hate you if you like them but with how much influence and ability to ruin games. I couldn't tell you how many times it was on a big game to get torpedoed by a cv (agincourt) 3-buearu okay at first fine whatever, but today with the paywalls just stupid how much to grind for something like schliefen, then there's zao. Where you need all the eay to the t8, but a new player can get Shima. 2- powercreep- commanders and ships alike. Al atago back in the day was strong, but know what? You give up 1/10th ur hp for the damage boost. Nowadays, we have stuff like NJ and AL chappy. How does it make sense a Russian cruiser can deal 11k to an amagi with he, when al atago on atago only pulls 8k. Last but not least. The monitozation I tallied up how much I spent from day 1 till now and was horrified to see 5780 usd. That then I stepped back and looked at the scam the Christmas crates were. The final nail in the coffin was that the al Cheshire is litterly early access to a Buff while they *watch it closely* This and nore why I left. The only reason I still have it installed is hoping my beloved atago gets a buff and I bs on the game with a friend or 2 here and there. (Oh, I'm also in college now while working full time, so that's an honorable mention)
Noticed your absence through the lack of videos over the last four/five months, glad you are well and not unwell or suffering some sort of accident! I have enjoyed your vids for almost as long as I have been playing (jan 2020, 12750 games). I recognise many of your reasons for growing frustrated and bored with the game, some more than others. It has always perplexed me why there is little in the way of diversity of builds, which has plagued the game since the beginning, but never addressed. Why Commanders didn't have a skill like, "I have a bad feeling..." or "Surprise MF" that reduced concealment for enemy ships by an amount, thereby making DD players a bit more cagey in how they play. Some commanders also have no attractive qualities, a maxed out Frazer with 3% movement boost (same as a lowest level battle booster, but for 693000 blue xp, 25 commendations and 8 insignia), or have been seriously outmatched with current cartoon commanders, Vian's 4% dispersion is a joke with all the skills/inspirations/spotter-planes that buff dispersion or shell grouping. Then there is the utter lack of information in the game for important issues, ships, skills and icons. Need to check details of Bradenburg, Jean Bart, Kamikaze or any CE editions? Head off to wowsbuilds as the ship list/store won't tell you. Does the AP penetration inspiration effect the overmatch of armour? Well, the description implies it does... No. No, it does not. Pity you wasted all those upgrades on Jaujard!! Similarly, you can't "see" the original stats of any ship if it is in your fleet, so applying an inspiration or skill is just a guess as to how it changes that ship. Match making is pathetic, never balancing sonar DD's or radar cruiser/battleships or anti-air capabilities between teams. And the community managers need changing. Thin skinned, arrogant and idiotic. Excellent at fleecing the unwary, but couldn't balance a tripod between them. Best of luck with the Ubisoft monstrosity!
You intro me to fast rudder..its literally the only way I play cruisers...because it's fun that way...the game is struggling especially legendary tier..I still like this game a lot..hope you come back at some point..
I have been playing this for only 4 weeks now. Considering my inexperience in this game, I do see your point. A handful of times I have been battling only to look around to see my mates are no where to be found.
Hipper..just wanted to say thank you for the tips and great videos...thru you I learned not just to love agility ships but also the "true game"..ie play the objectives, taking caps, killing DD's, power of radar etc...I recently started a new account on Legends on PS5 after leaving Xbox..proud to say my first Tier 7 will the Edinburgh with Tenant (no smoke)..sadly I will have to reacquire Balitmore and Takao..overall thought its been fun and please don't be a stranger...the game is still fun...sometimes you need to step back and take a break..Danke Schoen Mein Professor of Agility :)
Sad to see you go hipper. You were one of my favorite contributors. You have some valid points. In the end it's just a game. I don't really look at stats. I play for fun. Sometimes I get bored of it and I'll stop for a while and then I'll jump back in and have fun. It is what it is. I will miss your analysis and your recommendations for ships or commanders. You always very good at breaking everything down.
I guess after 17k games I might agree with you Hip. But at 5k I am still loving this game. I take a different perspective. Damage is not the only way to win. Some of my favourite games I have been left to defend a flank against overwhelming odds and just use tenacity and Hipper inspired agile builds to just hold on as long as I can. Love your videos where you skilfully dodge salvo after salvo with your fast agile cruiser style. Thanks for the videos. Really enjoyed them. Hope you return some day.
Agree in regards to damage and mods. They could add so many strategic options like for slot 4 they could add an anti radar mod which e.g. reduces enemy radar range bei 30% or radar duration by 50%.. or add a sonar jammer which disables running sonar every 30s for 15s .. something which adds new strategic aspects and Meta. I dont play twist and track perks since 4 years and main reason is, I dont need it. The games are more or less the same each time and you can 95% guarantee where an enemy player will be at a given time in the game.
I agree with you. I like to brawl in German battle ships but you can’t do that ether. As soon as you get within range to be effective the game is over for you.
I have to disagree with the vast majority of your take in this video. Yes, the player base does suc. No arguements there. BUT I was SHOCKED to see how many bureau ships you havent unlocked. You arent forced to play certain ships if you dont want. Ive unlocked every bureau ship (with minor exceptions, no midway. I havent ran up the french BB line, so no bourgogne. Im silver poor, i need to buy the lepante, so no colombo yet) And i didnt play the ships that speed up the process. Because I hate being forced to play a way i dont want. It just meant it took me longer to unlock the ship (and im not tryin to brag "i got all the ships"), i just didnt agree with your comment on the bureau part... Every video you posted was "agile" builds. Did you ever think to vary your builds? Evasion tanking IS fun, but its tiring game after game after game. Sometimes its fun to angle away and go pew... You should try it... I can be tops on the leader board in any "weird or funky" ship. Those are my favorite to play. Id imagine the vast majority of the playerbase has VERY few 16/4 captains. I think i have 2, maybe 3. So when you highlight musashi and new jersey. Those perks your getting at the highest level are VERY expensive. Again, i doubt more than 2% of the playerbase has either of the "damage focus" capt builds you mentioned capped out. And while 5% is 5%, that is such a minor amount added to a shell that does 10k damage. So you do 10500 damage??? Hardly game breaking. And look at how much it cost you!?!. But regardless, I wish you the best and hope to see you in battle soon. Fair winds and following seas Captain.
At 12L2, which is very attainable, that's a combined 13.5% on a citadel pushing Iowa from 14.4k to 16.4k dmg. That's not including the legendary mods 5% per kill. Pretty sure Spartan just did a video about exactly this with Ohio and it was some ridiculously crazy number like +52% with the relative inspirations. I used 12L2 to max out drillbits and just remove the confusion of pointless extra math. It gives a flat 10% to dmg and all dispersion commanders have it making it a moot point. It'd take 3 weeks and half a campaign or a T8 premium.
@@jamesbumgardner1469 12/2 won't unlock the higher percentages of the boost on the final captain perk Sorry, I don't remember the names of skills mentioned. 16/4 maxes out those bonuses. So while the other CC did the math to get a 16.4k citadel. You won't (again) reach that damage at 12/2....
I took almost a month off because it go boring. It's becoming more of a chore to play. But I still hop on evry now and then. I fully understand why u quit. Things over time just get boring it happens man. Thanks for explaining why u left. It was nice seeing a video from u
Agree with your points except 4. Forced to play certain ships? You mean where you have to do a single battle in the T6,7 and 8 in the line? Hardly a big ask is it.
I feel ya. I played for a solid 4 years. For me the lack of variety killed it. Uninteresting build variety. Every match is the same. 5 BBs per side camping islands. Nobody is countering the DDs because your lucky to have 1 cruiser in the match. Then the BB mains are crying they are getting torped by DDs. Anyway, best of luck to you on your new stuff in the future.
As a DD player I disagree. Half the DD players are running gun boats and hunting DDs so it’s not just cruisers we are fighting that easily over power us but it’s other DDs. BB players that cry are just sad. They insist on taking out these big powerful ships then cry like little baby’s if they get torped. If a DD makes a mistake the whole red team unleashes on them but if a stupid BB goes down to a decent DD player it’s a travesty. What tha ???
I think one problem is the C.C.s are more advanced because they play tens of thousands of games that the average players may not get to and doing this as a job gives an advantage in that they understand more of the dynamics of each ship. And the C.C.s all show games where they get 150k or more damage and makes players feel that's how they have to play. Also every C.C. complains about DDs not taking caps .The average once in a while player feels that what they have to do then they sink quickly. I believe the C.Cs set the bar to high for the average players.
Yeah I know the feeling thinking about quitting and go play really cool games like palworlds or play skyrim or fallout 3 new vegas or fallout 4 I'm sick and tired of people sending me hate messages and getting mad over a trash game but thank you for showing us how to play the game the right way hope u have a bright future❤
Not defending Wargaming here but the nature of a free game without skill based matchmaking is gonna be bad players at the end of the day. Tanks still has this problem today and it just turned 10 years old on console. The best way to solve this problem is either put skill based matchmaking in the game or a better tutorial. The latter is the most likely part to change or implement. Our player base is too small for skill based matchmaking.
I think we understand your disappointments. However, your videos are really helping the community. I myself for one has been helped by you tremendously that my cruiser playstyle just transformed totally from previous damage dpm focused style that constantly hide behind islands which i am sure didnt help the team greatly, to agile build that cap and hunt dds, damage absorption etc. To me, it is fine if you choose to opt out of the official cc program. But i am sure if you are still putting out WOWL videos in your own ways, that would definitely help elevate the skills of the newer playerbase. For someone as skilled as you to totally stopping totally would mean a certain downhill trend for the playerbase, which is such a pity.
Rank is 3 vs 3 you can carry. The player base is too small for more. Really, if it was 5 vs. 5, it would make games more competitive. Also, I do not stack damage, and I do ok, but I understand the frustration. I love my Shima being in the back of the map doing nothing.
I dont use new jearsey in ohio I use willis lee with Cunningham and Iachino and I can tank a shit load of damage with decent accuracy the have tried to put limiters like you have to have the lightning to get daring also hipper if you dont like to play certain ships for bureu in standard play them in ai its quick and easy
I've also noticed the game going downhill for a year now, but I'll be very sad to see you leave, I only found your channel a year ago, and it's because of you that I finally understood how to play the game properly. I was always looking for your gamer tag to be able to play with you, but it never happened, I'm happy for the one time we battled three times in a row. Hopefully the game will get better, I finally just got Neptune the other day, and I don't spend money on the game, so it's really rewarding for me to finally earn something for so long, but every game is Legendary ships and I just can't enjoy the game anymore, tier 8 is the new tier 7!
I took almost 2 years off. Came back about 8-9 months ago. I stick to tier 7 and under. More fun that way. I’ll quit again at some point when I find something I want to play. Nightingale drops in a couple weeks and at some point the Starfield DLC will drop. So back to PC soon.
I recently quit playing wowsl too. The main reason is after 3 years the game just isn't fun for me. Exessive rng and bad teammates, both just getting worse and worse, are what finally did for me. A bad player screwing up by beaching himself broadside 2km away and getting away with it 4 SALVOS from my Massachusetts was the straw that broke the camel's back while he spmamed me to death with HE. And then WG wonders why some people think the rng is rigged in this game, esp to favor bad players. I play a game to have fun, not be pissed off over and over again. It would take a lot of changes for me to come back but nothing about the core gameplay experience every really changes in wowsl does it?
Reason 1 solution - have host-able lobbies and player matching rates. Matching rate is determined by a players win/loss ratio and match placing. This was a great system in Ace Combat Infinity and you could easily determine a players skill level. - 1400MR to 1600MR = new/below average player - 1700MR to 1900MR = average player - 2000MR to 2200MR = above average player - 2300MR + advanced God tier player
Can you point to a game that addresses your points. I have over 13,000 games, and yes there are those games that make me pissed. But so do all the other games I play too. I think all games have the same problem too. Well I still like it. I have fun playing it. Yes it has its moments but It's a good game to sit and b******* with your friends.. I'll miss your legendary videos. I did watch most of them. I wish you the best in your endeavors.
I played from launch but stopped a few years ago reasons are similar & agree with all yours - yet dev/games contine on a path of sucide: - Making game not fun - too much pay to win, flags, camo's, commanders making game too unrealistic (again not fun) - top tiers not rewarding - you get to top only find less rewards in fun, earnings - what the point? - too many fake ships/designs/cameo's - got silly arcadey - loot boxes Generally, a lack of rewards for your time and money progressifly gets less fun - meant i don't want to play becomes a drug like other wheere you dont stop to investements with people owning and paying for like 150+ premium ships - take my advice get out early agree to matchmaking issues and too much rng on matches is silly
As someone wil has played for 5 years myself and i play all classes diversity is the spice of life, i agree with your statements, hipper i just don't understand like you said if he wants skilled mm trainingrooms are right there 🤣, bureau is just fine, if you play ai you can do the bureaus pretty fast greetings from the Netherlands
Some very good points and spot on. Your first point of the horrible players is why most stop playing. I kept leaving and coming back. I am pretty much done. I am so sick and tired of clueless teammates leaving their flanks, not doing their roles and wargaming not caring as long as they keep getting their money. Its beyond frustrating. Ive been playing world of tanks since early on, was a beta player on pc, then switched to legends when my pc died. Ive probably spent $5k through the last 12-14 years. I have played alot but ALL their games have the same problems because its wargamings model. I got suckered to spending money last november even though i swore I wouldnt. Then they shat on their experienced players with horrid winter rewards. It was a complete slap in the face. Shame on me as I should have known better. I am beyond done with them and will NEVER do another wargaming game.
You're right. But the game hasn't just been fucked up since yesterday. I don't play this game much anymore, I've been playing it for almost 5 years. now it's over. I hope you have fun playing Hipper II with others. stay relaxed, greetings to you, bye
U have so many caracter and ship my first acc that i have got bann for no reason i have need star a 2 acc i dont now if i can get all the ship back i got like the california and other old ships
Agree with most of your takes. The but exception is mobile. Mobile will be terrible for the game. It will bring next level casual players and lots of folks not finishing games because it’s mobile….
I started playing this game when it first came out. I just can't seem to get into it tho. I have like 596 battles. The highest tier I play is 5 but mostly I play 3 and 4. I feel like I want to get better before moving up. My win rate right now is 56% so it's not like I'm terrible but again I just don't seem to enjoy this game. I have little to nothing invested in this game so that's good. With that said I don't have have any of these good commanders. I basically play destroyers and cruisers. I might have about 10 games in battleships. They are just boring to me. 0 games in cv's. I hate those players
Hmm, yes I understand you're Frustrations Hipps. But perhaps if I did have an audience that enjoys my gameplay I would still provide, and on the other hand I wouldn't just play it on my Free time. If that makes sense
Your points are the same reason i leave the game too. Mostly because the game got boring, the events are nearly identical and the playerbase got worst overtime, devs lost the sense of the future for the game aswell. I started to play on the gremy campaign and didnt stop since the last leg of 2023. Is impressive how Weegee don´t care to the game live longer making players improve his skills and literally only focus on make money, they didnt think making a better playerbase makes the game live longer.
So damage has damaged the game, i can’t help but agree 🤷♂️ Probably the reason I play mostly at T5 & 6, legend is a waste of time, T8 gets mixed to frequently with legends and T7 with 8. Hope they up their game, change it about a bit and you come back at some point in the future
1 agree, 2 agree, 3 sort of agree its just the nature of the beast as some ships will be superior to others on paper at least skill still matters, 4 bureau is the biggest culprit of poor high tier player qaulity, 5 agree the recent influx of ships not having any utility to their base kits is just absurd you cant super cruiser your way through every match, mobile will make it worse
I dont like how some ships seem to get it all. Instead of spreading the love around. These waffle stomps are getting annoying too. I dont need to survive every battle, but when its so slanted, its obvious the teams were not split evenly. The tier seperation annoys me too, im a tier 5 going against tier 7.. especially when im the only bottom tier ship...yeah, i can tell we're not gunna win that one.
It's all about them making money. I'm an xp chaser therefore I play to win. I also tell people if you aim to stay alive but play positively as well you will be competetive. With the high dpm ships I feel like I've had to adapt. I used to always play full rudder like you but now I go more concealment but I still base my play how you always taught with full rudder builds. Defo don't play too much myself anymore as the game is v stale. Need to play in div to have any interest at all.
Hippmeister! I feel your pain. I think you might need a break. I take time away from it, sometimes for months, just not to get frustrated and burned out. Be a shame to lose you, the content you have provided and the insightful gameplay and some truly interesting builds has been a great asset to the community.
You can't simple win the game with all the caps if your whole team gets sunk you have to do damage to the any and sink them I'm terrible at dd play Everytime I try to cap I get spotted and Thier team piles on my pop a smock ya say it gets flooded with torps soni just try to sink the enemy team anymore lol
I invested so much in booth Legends and WOT it really is absurd.I feel like stuck and I only do play for my own fun .I do not care about statistics at all there is no point with the complete lack of balance.Your points are pretty much in line with my own and I feel many have the same feelings WG just dont care unless it hurts them moneywise.I remember well the change in WOT with 6.0 update it took 2 years for WG to get there shit together but really it has no future players are sitting in the back with big BB.s.......Consealmeant mod for BB.s is probabley the worst desicion ever made but latley there are desicions that has destroyed the fun and balnce is worst then ever.About the commanders there are a lot of the choises that really needs a overhaule and I agree there are some that makes no sence at all.
I just come back to WOWSL becuause afer 10yrs of world of tanks THAT game has suffered from WG 'buisness model' of increasing the damage of new tanks and with advent of cold war we got get TIER 19 Tank games 15v15 players That can often be 15 to 0 wins in just 4 or less mins. Complete power creep. The game used to be about angling armour and cover and some tactics, but with almost 1000mm of penetration plus missiles that do half of your total health, that is no longer an option, now drive at 70kph turret lock and shoot, that is now the game. Also the lack of suitable maps. And gereral lack of care by WG. Regarding WOWSL , yeah, i see power creep, cramped, VERY cramped maps cluttered with huge islands that attempt to funnel players and cause brawls. Lack of strategey. Needs a more ADULT game mode. Bigget maps , why spawn so dammed close EVER GAME and playing with NO CV's needs to be an option. The commander building process requires HUGE amounts of player TIME and all that time gets negated when they have CV Spotting, and huge damage buffs. How does a completly NEW player get started ??? Thats a big problem. Experinced players with maxed out commanders and ships and map knowlege v level 1 noob !! Really. You done some good content Hipper but when you've had enough it don't matter if you have prem time to 2027 and £2500 WORTH OF SHIPS. No FUN NO PLAY. 👍🇬🇧
I have stopped as well Von Hipper😊 I learned to,play from you so thank,you ❤. WG profiteering doesn’t allow them to change game, it’s all about $, you literally pay $ for every battle, ship fees etc, so they have no motive to make it like a real game, it’s all just a scheme to,take $ from each player for,a;most every game action.
I play Diablo and other RPGs, too. These are very good points certainly certain ships need better mods for. Sure. I agree 👍, I've played less and less past year, takes breaks cone back and try if I feel if it's going to hell l, I logout and go to other games. I would have more legendary ships, too, but ya those breaks costs me my premium time that I got, and also another reason not to pay is I feel players are getting ripped off by the monetization of this platform Grambling mechanics. If I wanted to gamble, I'd go to a casino 🎰 not give WG anymore money. Then I already have. It feels like a sinking ship atm.
I don't disagree but for me, what makes this game a chore is RNG. It really frustrates me when I supposedly have an accuracy commander but when I see my salvo, the shells just go all over the place.
All of this is true and why I only play casually now, never in any serious capacity. Its 2020 and youre asking for Fleets? Oh dont worry, youll get it in 3 years once we're done with the 78 UI updates. An Auction House that isnt an Auction House, a Ranked mode that doesnt actually Rank people, an Arena mode that DOES rank people but the name is taken so its called Arena, a Forge where you can grind out the rarest ships in the game but we'll only ever add 2 and once you buy one will discount it by 50% for everyone else because we hate you specifically and think your dad was right for leaving. Remember the bug that stops your steering input when you use the coms wheel that was..fixed? And then unfixed? The absolutely critical lack of balance testing that leads to these hilarious forever-broken ships like Mainz. On the rare occasion they DO make decent balance changes they just sell you an un-nerf commander. Dont like Kansas reload nerf? $20, heres AL Colorado who buffs it back and then some. Dont like the Zeiten secondary nerf? $20, heres AL Bismarck who buffs it back and then some. Its just extremely, extremely frustrating and at this point my buddies and I are only logging in to burn time until a new multiplayer game drops
Plenty of support skills or inspirations on commanders but they all have worthless percentages. Look at someone like Kinkaid. Who is gonna use him as inspiration for a 5 percent cool down on sonar? Nobody. You think WG would say hey maybe let's buff that to 15 percent and some people might start building for team support instead of damage.
This game ain't chess. And if your that asshole that sits at spawn thinking your the queen and wont move then I'd imagine your partly the reason hipster left...
Some good points Atago VIi. And wait- ohio and new campaign?? So youre still here? We miss you. Just come back make agila zao and have fun with us and all the crap players. I cant be a junkie by myself
I quit 6 month ago - They keep nerfing any ship I use and enjoy - Too much hate for carriers when the players are the blamed for not being aware - They didnt add new carriers for like a looong time now - The game is very unbalanced when it comes to fighting divisions why even try, imagine ur alone and 3 guys wants to beat u telling each other what to do and where he went - Game seems very repetitive so that got boring so fast, it was enjoyable before bcuz everything was balanced but now u just see some american battleships deleting ships bcuz of that broken commander in which they will never nerf and if u call it out they will group up on u and say ur a total BS nothing wrong it etc
This is what happens. When you take a GAME to seriously 🤦. It's a game end of story... Maybe you'll get a life now 🤣🤣🤣. Don't let the door hit ya.......
Your first point, what is WG supposed to do about players who have a lower skill level? Long tutorials will flat out cause people to quite, other video games has proven this. Telling people basic game mechanics will only go as far as the player learning wants to learn. (You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it.) Biggest question, what is the hardest definition of a experience player? Your second point... I'm just flat out confused about. You do realize that the game is a, PVP game. At some you will need to do damage. We have ruddershift builds for three different classes, we have full damage builds for three classes, we have full stealth builds for three classes, fire builds for two...maybe three classes(?). The class with the least amount of build options is CVs. My question here, is what type of builds would you like? Healing allies? Support builds that buff allied ships? Silly ships... well here, if people played to win, carry, then you would see this ships all the time and only these ships. Wait, you don't? Hmmm.... Bureau is just, odd. Its something that too me is just in the background. It completes over time. Only thing you have to do is the required ship that you have a T8 ship. Literally a thing that stops inexperienced players from getting LT ships. (Older Bureaus projects doesn’t fit this.) Also, the last point... did you ever recommend, made a video on different possible modifications? Oh! Your point here is you want modifications that fit a ruddershift build. Nothing else? Really? You complained about the game not having enough diversity in builds and recommend one that only benefits you. Weird point. And by far... the biggest point of the video... not enough difference from full damage builds. Its a PvP game, like I even went to the game in the microsoft store to see if it was labeled as anything else... nope. PvP. Literally says player vs player 2-18. Honestly, at this point someone should make a video of CCs being dev striked, doing potato games, zero damage games, being disconnected and doing nothing and say, "Look how bad the CCs is!" Because thats literally the example that CCs give with the playerbase. There flat out clickbait videos that only show off horrible friendly teams. Not once have I seen a video of a CC saying how bad the red team is. Extremely weird isn't? If anyone read this hello! Thanks for reading, here is a cookie and a kitten! Thank you!
But, did you mention it in the video? No, I watched it, and you just kept repeating the same point over and over again. (Edit, because I will admit when I am wrong) *You only mention, "They tried with this commander but it didn't work." Honestly I'm rather amazed the only thing you commented on was the full damage builds! XD
If people quit Because a properly robust tutorial it's on their lazy brain fault. Stop white knighting WG balls. They are a greedy and lazy company. Gtfo bro no one knows you and u didn't contribute anything with this comment nor with any gameplay. At least hipper showed some good stuff and out of the box with some different builds than ur stupid meta brainless one.
Hi. Too many BB in the game. Should be something like maybe 1CV-2BB-4CC-3DD. if no cv in game add one more cc or dd. Most of the time 5 to 6 BB - sometimes 1to 3 CC and DD makes it hard to play. Don't get me wrong I play playing BB. Most of the time it's BB vs BB. should change the name to world of Battleships.
What an irrelevant video. None of these are the reason you stopped. You stopped cause you backed yourself into a singular rudder build corner while claiming everything else was “boring” and got burnt out. So either just say that or remain silent.
I put it down since last summer. Game is stale and nothing new. After the yoshino and Zao they showed their hand. Pay walls and grinds are ridiculous. I play every now and then but after playing since release every game gets old and this one is old to you and I. The guy who picks it up a year or two ago yeah it may be fresh but the game is too focused on money and player count online. That is why the grinds are longer. Adding more time so more player hours and not player count. Increasing the number of wins the wins in premiums really. Grind grind grind. Giving the game a break is a great thing. I play uninstall then reinstall. Every couple of months. Congrats hipper join the hundreds of us who have moved on. I'll see you out there.
My biggest problem with the game is that fucking HE spammer. Behind island and that map end drifters. And that the legends team didnt make what the comunity want. And the legends team give a fuck of the community. And the biggest problem Will to rebuild is nerved and the he damage for cruisers get higher. So mutch cruisers they buffed and so mutch battleships they nerved. Wtf. Why? Thats the reason i didnt make any more videos for my channel and thats the reason why i didnt play the game now.
The game wemt down hill fast with carriers, they have unlanced the game with torps on Battleships, silly range secondaries too many radars on battleships should be a cruiser thing. The game reqards carriers and bbs now. There was a nice ballance but to sell ships and make money they have upset the balance of ahips and the game.
What about the match making where the red team has 6 ships with sonar and radar and the blue team has 2? I played a match where every DD on the team had sonar or radar and the blue team has ZERO. BUT yes stupid or selfish players really make the game not fun to play. Sorry to see you go.
We have had a very rapidly growing competitive community for almost 9 months. We play tournaments over several weeks, small events or play regular training games. For many of us this has been an absolute game changer. We have created structures that are all outside of the actual game and invisible to many. but they exist. If you're unhappy with all the standard stuff, you might want to take a look at this.
Honestly, I only agree with one of your complaints. That is about bad players, and WG not relaying proper playing skills. All of the rest is crying because good players can overcome majority of your other complaints. That being said I'm happy you stepped back from WOWL because your misery was all we could see in your videos.
I stopped playing because all the amature wankers sailing into the mess and get blow up. 6 min into the game and I am alone against the entire red team. Very frustrating.
so basically you want your rudder cruiser build to be unbeatable and when someone shots at you in a battleship they miss everything by a mile? seems fair thanks
Hipper, why do you think they would do a mobile roll-out to extend WoW Legends? They could have done that for PC with console but instead they created Legends to separate it (and the game doesn’t even feel the same). iirc they actually have a crappy mobile version of the game already but it’s absolutely trash. I’d say if you quit Legends, look at the original on PC. Yah they have submarines that people complain about but the PC version handled its core mechanics better than legends - such as bow tanking and angling. You got 10 tiers of ships no legendary tier. And you got 12v12 instead of 9v9 (which makes getting krakens easier in theory but it’s mitigated by stronger HP pools and proper mechanics to ballistics etc.) You should give it a try.
I do not have Worcester in legends yet, but it’s the first Tier 10 ship I got in the PC version of the game. In those days, I was very hung on AA capabilities of the U.S. cruisers back when Carriers were RTS. In those days, PC WoW taught players to stick together to overlap AA “bubbles” b/c carriers were nuts OP. This is probably why you are seeing WoW Legends players not holding the line all the time as they abandon flanks for grouped up defense (but I’ve seen it happen a lot without carriers too so it’s not 100%). Every stage of the game has been different in both titles but maybe you will find what you are looking for in PC.
Yep, always thought battleships were OP, and so pretty pointless playing cruisers at times for average players like me. And again yes about the matchmaking - sometimes you can play for a couple of hours, rank on your team but still lose every match. Enjoyed you videos dude, all the best on you next project 👍🏻
So it appears VII Hipper held a Retirement Press Conference by listing his 5 reasons for leaving WoW: Legends. I'm going to weigh in on this.... This may be wordy...a reader's time and discretion and attention span is advised. 1. Bad Players.....Hipper's right, we do have a lot of bad players in WoW Legends, and it can be very very tiresome after a while, especially when one observes a spacklehead player throwing a match. Hipper says Wargaming has failed to address this problem. He mentioned a "hundred ways" to address the problem, though he didn't really dive into those 100 ways very much at all, but then again we are talking about a hundred ways...and Hipper says he's a busy man... ...more on that busy part later on, stay tuned! So yeah, I can agree with him to a point, but here's where that point becomes a disagreement....Bad players are everywhere in all sorts of co-op shoot-em up games. Why? Time, Life, and personality for starters, in other words people are different and so are there priorities. Such things can't be controlled out there. Everyone is different and Wargaming wants everyone to spend their time and money on this game when applicable, regardless if they are good or bad at WoW Legends. THAT means ya gotta let the bad players roll off your back like water off a duck in the Colorado River. It's ok to be frustrated, but if you're gonna play a co-op shoot 'em up game then you have to expect this phenomenon to be a thing out there. Otherwise you'll be spending too much time unhappy with unrealistic expectations. Sometimes ya gotta laugh at the stupid things ya see, or take a break...or retire when the game is putting the fun in funeral. Expecting Wargaming to control it is unrealistic. 2. Damage Focus.......this will be a hoot. Hipper claims that the commanders, particularly those of Azur Lane origins, are too damage focused which in turn pigeonholes a player to choose out of necessity, a commander build to reflect this. Their are two reasons why Hipper's argument on this matter blows up like the Death Star. Firstly WoW Legends is a shoot 'em up arcade style game...let that reality sink in for minute. Complaining about damage focused stuff in a shoot 'em-up game is like complaining about too much horsepower in Forza Motorsports. Secondly, it's not accurate....why? I'm glad ya asked. VII Hipper's entire product is built on effectively countering that concept...he's the Agile Guy and has been the Agile guy for a very long time. One could play a drinking game to how often Hipper uses the word "Agile" I can't help but wonder if "Agile" is on his license plate or if he has a Tattoo that says "Agile"....he loves that word very very much, because he adores the concept. If Pope Francis is looking for the Patron Saint of Agility...then VII Hipper is the man for that appointment, which why this particular complaint makes zero sense to me. Hipper developed a play-style that he demonstrated masterfully. He promoted this game-style with enthusiasm. It's literally designed to counter in-coming salvos by making the enemy miss as much as possible. His successful/chosen style of game play contradicts his position, not to mention that it's not a style that everyone uses. It's a bit of a niche thing but it works for VII Hipper. Also consider this truth...those Azur Lane commanders are subject to the skill sets of the player base along with RNG AND whatever commander build the enemy is also using to counter it, so those percentages that Hipper complained about are not a promise of results by any stretch...he should have known that, which is why I can't take his position regarding damage focused builds very seriously. It makes me wonder if VII Hipper is a bit disingenuous. 3. Silly Ships.....Hipper specifically showcased the Worcester as being a DPM nightmare with a 32mm bow and radar that can allegedly carry a game in the hands of a very good player 80% of the time. Firstly the Worcester is an American ship. The United States has had the best navy in the world for a long time , so it should be a technological nightmare...aside from Hipper's use of hyperbole, that ship and the Des Moines can be encountered and countered out of a match...how? Like Hipper said...the player base is poor so that means the full impacts of these ships is limited by its user, and RNG. Ships like the Worcester and Des Moines are designed to unleash hell on the enemy and the enemies job is to unleash hell to counter it. There's enough unskilled players out there to render these ships useless very quickly, as well as skilled players who can use them with precision. 4. The Bureau....in a nutshell the Bureau ushered new players to skip the grind process and obtain a top tier vessel and it hurt the quality of game play, which I agree with Hipper....that's on Wargaming's stupidity....but...they did address this in the Bureau well over a year ago by requiring a player to advance IF and only IF they have Tier 6,7, and 8 ships from a specific tech tree. Hipper's additional complaint of not liking the conditions of the Bureau requiring that certain ships be played, that he does not like to play is not a Wargaming problem, that's a VII Hipper problem. Hipper added that he's a busy man, ok....well Hipper, the world is full of busy people so pointing out that you're busy isn't particularly remarkable. 5. Diversity.....part of this was a summary of reasons 1-4 with an additional take on epic and legendary damage mods currently available. He suggested an epic/legendary rudder mod with a torpedo spotting boost. I guess Hipper thinks he needs a ship that can corner like the light cycles from TRON....good luck with THAT wishful thinking...This is World of Warships not Forza Motorsports. If ya want agile...try driving a Lotus. Diversity is defined as "the state of being diverse-variety" WoW Legends has over 400 ships, well over 100+ commanders that allow a player to be a Brawler, a Sniper, Flanking Speedster, a ghost, a secondary monster, a finesse agile player, a anti-aircraft curmudgeon and even an aviator. That's Diversity as defined. Is WoW Legends perfect? No. Is it as a awful as VII Hipper describes? For him it is, and that's fine. But as of 12,000 matches, I don't see it that way. It seems to me that VII Hipper is blaming Wargaming and WoW Legends for failing him, so he's leaving which is fine, because I'm not very sentimental in these matters. Life will go on and so will this game with or without VII Hipper...Hipper's lack of self awareness regarding his reasons, negatively impact his position. He's been accused of occasionally sounding like an elitist...at times he does sound like an elitist, other times, not so much. Maybe that depends on whether he's drinking a whiskey sour while commenting 😜 He used the word "Boring" enough for me to notice the frequency of his use of that word, which is kinda telling of a guy who played a game 17,000 times in 5 years. Perhaps he played a bit too much. It happens. What Hipper is selling here is something that I'm not buying which is the responsibility of his decision is placed solely at the feet of Wargaming, when in reality VII Hipper made this decision by himself, not Wargaming. He needs to own that decision. But that's up to him. Now some of you including ol' VII Hipper may agree or disagree and that's fine. These are Moony's views of Hipper's 5 reasons. That means I will sleep well regardless of your opinion. That also means that I wish Hipper well, he has to play video games that he enjoys because it is his time and money, not mine. When a game feels more like a chore or a job, it's time to move on. What he's doing is good for the game. If he returns that'll also be good for the game.
Daily creates should have a chance to drop a ship, war gaming is so greedy, i stopped buying creates and cancelled my subscription my odd will remain the same
I've stopped playing high tiers for many of the reasons mentioned. I now play tier 3 to 5, many playstyles are more viable at those tiers and an individual has more impact on carrying the game without getting into the meta of playing the strongest ships and builds
Had a game in my warspite, the players crapped themselves as usual, left the caps, YOLO etc, thankfully a few of us could actually play and managed to win it on kills but I was convinced it was a lost cause
@pads-zr9ln good example of not giving up! I've seen too many players throw away their ships because they think it is a lost cause, only for those matches to be neck and neck in the end game
i think its baffling to say theres no diversity in the game when you literally limit yourself to one playstyle 90% of the time
I am the only only CC who have invested into every build possible.
@@VIIHIPPER wich nation is the best? And what is every pros and cons of them?
You're not listening to what he is saying
Okay breaking it down here, what Hipper is trying to get across is, why play other playstyles when the meta build has no competition by far.
Why limit yourself or the entire game to one playstyle because it's meta?
What I see Hipper doing is showing there's an alternative to the "meta damage build" by for example playing builds like agile builds, detectability builds and speed builds. It gives diversity and opens up possibilities to challenge the set ways of playing, if you watch his videos you know he challenges the game with different builds all.. the.. time...
How many CC's actually challenge the game because they are so good they don't get challenged by the game? There are two, Metajerk and Hipper, the rest are either mediocre or "good" compared to the average player.
There are also "big" CC's that are straight garbage and I can mention quite a few
for 1 video ? @@VIIHIPPER
It’s understandable that it’s run its course for you for now at least. Thank you for the many great and educational videos you’ve made. Not only were they fun to watch, but taught players how to be better at the game. Cheers and I hope that in time perhaps you’ll wanna play a lil bit again
I appreciate that!
I feel the same way.I was wondering what happened to you.Best of luck you did teach me a lot.
Glad to hear that
Very good video. I definitely agree with your first point, bad player base! I am almost to the point of quitting myself. I have been playing the game since the beginning but I am the wrong personality for this game because I am somewhat aggressive and I want to attack and play the game. I played 12 games today and in 8 of them my so-called teammates either sat in the back behind an island, or in 2 games the big BBs just turned and ran away from the action, or in several cases, I spawned at C and the 2 ships that spawned with me went to B and A leaving me alone to get my butt whipped!! This is just not fun. I had a couple of games where my teammates and I worked together, it was fun and we easily won, sadly, that doesn't happen often enough!
I feel your pain mate
I love you Hip & the channel, but why do you have the commander you are saying is the “main offender,” at 16/4?
One of his points is that one has to have the few strongest ships and commanders to win.
That it forces people to play according to a specific meta (including himself).
The fact that the player base is shrinking with a lot of the more experienced players leaving is also compacting the amount of potatoes in every battle which in turn pushes even more experienced players out of the game. It's an ever decreasing circle
I'm unsure whom of yall will read this, but I thought I'd add my story to the mix.
I started in May 2019 in beta. (One week after alpha) I joined because my friend told me bout it gave a try and fell in love. Well, 5 years later and I have as well hung up the towel almost at the same time as hipper.
The reasons I decided to stop are similar but different. I have a good-sized list but will leave my top 5.
5. The theoretical ships are being introduced at a stupid rate. I'm not an anti paper ship, but it just seems it's one what if after another. Look at the British battle cruiser line. Not giving us queen Mary or indefatigable both real and historical ships. That and these dumb as turning torpedos.
4 carriers- I dont hate you if you like them but with how much influence and ability to ruin games. I couldn't tell you how many times it was on a big game to get torpedoed by a cv (agincourt)
3-buearu okay at first fine whatever, but today with the paywalls just stupid how much to grind for something like schliefen, then there's zao. Where you need all the eay to the t8, but a new player can get Shima.
2- powercreep- commanders and ships alike. Al atago back in the day was strong, but know what? You give up 1/10th ur hp for the damage boost. Nowadays, we have stuff like NJ and AL chappy. How does it make sense a Russian cruiser can deal 11k to an amagi with he, when al atago on atago only pulls 8k.
Last but not least.
The monitozation
I tallied up how much I spent from day 1 till now and was horrified to see 5780 usd. That then I stepped back and looked at the scam the Christmas crates were. The final nail in the coffin was that the al Cheshire is litterly early access to a Buff while they *watch it closely*
This and nore why I left. The only reason I still have it installed is hoping my beloved atago gets a buff and I bs on the game with a friend or 2 here and there.
(Oh, I'm also in college now while working full time, so that's an honorable mention)
I agree with most of your points
Noticed your absence through the lack of videos over the last four/five months, glad you are well and not unwell or suffering some sort of accident! I have enjoyed your vids for almost as long as I have been playing (jan 2020, 12750 games).
I recognise many of your reasons for growing frustrated and bored with the game, some more than others. It has always perplexed me why there is little in the way of diversity of builds, which has plagued the game since the beginning, but never addressed. Why Commanders didn't have a skill like, "I have a bad feeling..." or "Surprise MF" that reduced concealment for enemy ships by an amount, thereby making DD players a bit more cagey in how they play.
Some commanders also have no attractive qualities, a maxed out Frazer with 3% movement boost (same as a lowest level battle booster, but for 693000 blue xp, 25 commendations and 8 insignia), or have been seriously outmatched with current cartoon commanders, Vian's 4% dispersion is a joke with all the skills/inspirations/spotter-planes that buff dispersion or shell grouping.
Then there is the utter lack of information in the game for important issues, ships, skills and icons. Need to check details of Bradenburg, Jean Bart, Kamikaze or any CE editions? Head off to wowsbuilds as the ship list/store won't tell you. Does the AP penetration inspiration effect the overmatch of armour? Well, the description implies it does... No. No, it does not. Pity you wasted all those upgrades on Jaujard!!
Similarly, you can't "see" the original stats of any ship if it is in your fleet, so applying an inspiration or skill is just a guess as to how it changes that ship.
Match making is pathetic, never balancing sonar DD's or radar cruiser/battleships or anti-air capabilities between teams.
And the community managers need changing. Thin skinned, arrogant and idiotic. Excellent at fleecing the unwary, but couldn't balance a tripod between them.
Best of luck with the Ubisoft monstrosity!
You intro me to fast rudder..its literally the only way I play cruisers...because it's fun that way...the game is struggling especially legendary tier..I still like this game a lot..hope you come back at some point..
I have been playing this for only 4 weeks now. Considering my inexperience in this game, I do see your point. A handful of times I have been battling only to look around to see my mates are no where to be found.
take care hipper as a bb main you showed me a lot and helped me understand the concept behind agile cruisers and how I kill them best of luck see ya
Thanks for sharing, Hipper. By the way, I see you left your Xbox behind. Would you do a video explaining the differences and why you chose PS instead?
Thats a good idea will do!
Hipper..just wanted to say thank you for the tips and great videos...thru you I learned not just to love agility ships but also the "true game"..ie play the objectives, taking caps, killing DD's, power of radar etc...I recently started a new account on Legends on PS5 after leaving Xbox..proud to say my first Tier 7 will the Edinburgh with Tenant (no smoke)..sadly I will have to reacquire Balitmore and Takao..overall thought its been fun and please don't be a stranger...the game is still fun...sometimes you need to step back and take a break..Danke Schoen Mein Professor of Agility :)
Which game are you switching to? I will follow you there.
Even if its Sims 4?
Farmville
would there ever be a day you will return and if so, would all these problems have to be fixed?
Unlikely
Sad to see you go hipper. You were one of my favorite contributors. You have some valid points. In the end it's just a game. I don't really look at stats. I play for fun. Sometimes I get bored of it and I'll stop for a while and then I'll jump back in and have fun. It is what it is. I will miss your analysis and your recommendations for ships or commanders. You always very good at breaking everything down.
Always a pleasure to be matched with you mate!
I hope your well hip
I guess after 17k games I might agree with you Hip. But at 5k I am still loving this game. I take a different perspective. Damage is not the only way to win. Some of my favourite games I have been left to defend a flank against overwhelming odds and just use tenacity and Hipper inspired agile builds to just hold on as long as I can. Love your videos where you skilfully dodge salvo after salvo with your fast agile cruiser style. Thanks for the videos. Really enjoyed them. Hope you return some day.
Agree in regards to damage and mods. They could add so many strategic options like for slot 4 they could add an anti radar mod which e.g. reduces enemy radar range bei 30% or radar duration by 50%.. or add a sonar jammer which disables running sonar every 30s for 15s .. something which adds new strategic aspects and Meta. I dont play twist and track perks since 4 years and main reason is, I dont need it. The games are more or less the same each time and you can 95% guarantee where an enemy player will be at a given time in the game.
I agree with you. I like to brawl in German battle ships but you can’t do that ether. As soon as you get within range to be effective the game is over for you.
Variety is the spice ❤👍👍 hope they sort it out
I have to disagree with the vast majority of your take in this video.
Yes, the player base does suc. No arguements there.
BUT
I was SHOCKED to see how many bureau ships you havent unlocked. You arent forced to play certain ships if you dont want. Ive unlocked every bureau ship (with minor exceptions, no midway. I havent ran up the french BB line, so no bourgogne. Im silver poor, i need to buy the lepante, so no colombo yet) And i didnt play the ships that speed up the process. Because I hate being forced to play a way i dont want. It just meant it took me longer to unlock the ship (and im not tryin to brag "i got all the ships"), i just didnt agree with your comment on the bureau part...
Every video you posted was "agile" builds. Did you ever think to vary your builds?
Evasion tanking IS fun, but its tiring game after game after game. Sometimes its fun to angle away and go pew...
You should try it...
I can be tops on the leader board in any "weird or funky" ship. Those are my favorite to play.
Id imagine the vast majority of the playerbase has VERY few 16/4 captains. I think i have 2, maybe 3.
So when you highlight musashi and new jersey. Those perks your getting at the highest level are VERY expensive. Again, i doubt more than 2% of the playerbase has either of the "damage focus" capt builds you mentioned capped out.
And while 5% is 5%, that is such a minor amount added to a shell that does 10k damage. So you do 10500 damage??? Hardly game breaking. And look at how much it cost you!?!.
But regardless,
I wish you the best and hope to see you in battle soon.
Fair winds and following seas Captain.
At 12L2, which is very attainable, that's a combined 13.5% on a citadel pushing Iowa from 14.4k to 16.4k dmg. That's not including the legendary mods 5% per kill. Pretty sure Spartan just did a video about exactly this with Ohio and it was some ridiculously crazy number like +52% with the relative inspirations.
I used 12L2 to max out drillbits and just remove the confusion of pointless extra math. It gives a flat 10% to dmg and all dispersion commanders have it making it a moot point. It'd take 3 weeks and half a campaign or a T8 premium.
@@jamesbumgardner1469 12/2 won't unlock the higher percentages of the boost on the final captain perk
Sorry, I don't remember the names of skills mentioned.
16/4 maxes out those bonuses.
So while the other CC did the math to get a 16.4k citadel.
You won't (again) reach that damage at 12/2....
I took almost a month off because it go boring. It's becoming more of a chore to play. But I still hop on evry now and then. I fully understand why u quit. Things over time just get boring it happens man. Thanks for explaining why u left. It was nice seeing a video from u
Agree with your points except 4. Forced to play certain ships? You mean where you have to do a single battle in the T6,7 and 8 in the line? Hardly a big ask is it.
I feel ya. I played for a solid 4 years. For me the lack of variety killed it. Uninteresting build variety. Every match is the same. 5 BBs per side camping islands. Nobody is countering the DDs because your lucky to have 1 cruiser in the match. Then the BB mains are crying they are getting torped by DDs. Anyway, best of luck to you on your new stuff in the future.
As a DD player I disagree. Half the DD players are running gun boats and hunting DDs so it’s not just cruisers we are fighting that easily over power us but it’s other DDs. BB players that cry are just sad. They insist on taking out these big powerful ships then cry like little baby’s if they get torped. If a DD makes a mistake the whole red team unleashes on them but if a stupid BB goes down to a decent DD player it’s a travesty. What tha ???
I think one problem is the C.C.s are more advanced because they play tens of thousands of games that the average players may not get to and doing this as a job gives an advantage in that they understand more of the dynamics of each ship.
And the C.C.s all show games where they get 150k or more damage and makes players feel that's how they have to play. Also every C.C. complains about DDs not taking caps .The average once in a while player feels that what they have to do then they sink quickly. I believe the C.Cs set the bar to high for the average players.
Yeah I know the feeling thinking about quitting and go play really cool games like palworlds or play skyrim or fallout 3 new vegas or fallout 4 I'm sick and tired of people sending me hate messages and getting mad over a trash game but thank you for showing us how to play the game the right way hope u have a bright future❤
Not defending Wargaming here but the nature of a free game without skill based matchmaking is gonna be bad players at the end of the day. Tanks still has this problem today and it just turned 10 years old on console. The best way to solve this problem is either put skill based matchmaking in the game or a better tutorial. The latter is the most likely part to change or implement. Our player base is too small for skill based matchmaking.
Let me know when you and Hustle want to do a Mario Party stream 😂 I’m there
Oh man! Any time!
Hope you’re well Hip, I enjoyed your Aussie whinge! 😉 what are you playing these days?
Waiting for Skull and Bones
Your agile builds made me really enjoy cruisers. So thank you for that.
Glad you like them!
Ngl I didn’t notice that you stopped lol. Go with what you like tho no point playing a game which you have problems with
I think we understand your disappointments. However, your videos are really helping the community. I myself for one has been helped by you tremendously that my cruiser playstyle just transformed totally from previous damage dpm focused style that constantly hide behind islands which i am sure didnt help the team greatly, to agile build that cap and hunt dds, damage absorption etc. To me, it is fine if you choose to opt out of the official cc program. But i am sure if you are still putting out WOWL videos in your own ways, that would definitely help elevate the skills of the newer playerbase. For someone as skilled as you to totally stopping totally would mean a certain downhill trend for the playerbase, which is such a pity.
Rank is 3 vs 3 you can carry. The player base is too small for more. Really, if it was 5 vs. 5, it would make games more competitive. Also, I do not stack damage, and I do ok, but I understand the frustration. I love my Shima being in the back of the map doing nothing.
I dont use new jearsey in ohio I use willis lee with Cunningham and Iachino and I can tank a shit load of damage with decent accuracy
the have tried to put limiters like you have to have the lightning to get daring
also hipper if you dont like to play certain ships for bureu in standard play them in ai its quick and easy
I've also noticed the game going downhill for a year now, but I'll be very sad to see you leave, I only found your channel a year ago, and it's because of you that I finally understood how to play the game properly. I was always looking for your gamer tag to be able to play with you, but it never happened, I'm happy for the one time we battled three times in a row. Hopefully the game will get better, I finally just got Neptune the other day, and I don't spend money on the game, so it's really rewarding for me to finally earn something for so long, but every game is Legendary ships and I just can't enjoy the game anymore, tier 8 is the new tier 7!
I took almost 2 years off. Came back about 8-9 months ago. I stick to tier 7 and under. More fun that way. I’ll quit again at some point when I find something I want to play. Nightingale drops in a couple weeks and at some point the Starfield DLC will drop. So back to PC soon.
Have you tried Skull and Bones? Could be a good substitute.
@@VIIHIPPER I’ll check it out. Good luck to you.
I'm an on/off player myself, I start taking it too seriously? I quit.
I recently quit playing wowsl too. The main reason is after 3 years the game just isn't fun for me. Exessive rng and bad teammates, both just getting worse and worse, are what finally did for me. A bad player screwing up by beaching himself broadside 2km away and getting away with it 4 SALVOS from my Massachusetts was the straw that broke the camel's back while he spmamed me to death with HE.
And then WG wonders why some people think the rng is rigged in this game, esp to favor bad players.
I play a game to have fun, not be pissed off over and over again.
It would take a lot of changes for me to come back but nothing about the core gameplay experience every really changes in wowsl does it?
Reason 1 solution - have host-able lobbies and player matching rates. Matching rate is determined by a players win/loss ratio and match placing. This was a great system in Ace Combat Infinity and you could easily determine a players skill level.
- 1400MR to 1600MR = new/below average player
- 1700MR to 1900MR = average player
- 2000MR to 2200MR = above average player
- 2300MR + advanced God tier player
What I hate is drop rates, camo and boosts suck, shouldn't have to wait 2 or 3 months for a ship to drop
Can you point to a game that addresses your points. I have over 13,000 games, and yes there are those games that make me pissed. But so do all the other games I play too. I think all games have the same problem too. Well I still like it. I have fun playing it. Yes it has its moments but It's a good game to sit and b******* with your friends.. I'll miss your legendary videos. I did watch most of them. I wish you the best in your endeavors.
I heard the news, congrats. This game isn’t worth this level of frustration. The devs ruined such a promising product.
Actually left CC before xmas… Just didnt want to do any stuff on this game until now.
I played from launch but stopped a few years ago reasons are similar & agree with all yours - yet dev/games contine on a path of sucide:
- Making game not fun
- too much pay to win, flags, camo's, commanders making game too unrealistic (again not fun)
- top tiers not rewarding - you get to top only find less rewards in fun, earnings - what the point?
- too many fake ships/designs/cameo's - got silly arcadey
- loot boxes
Generally, a lack of rewards for your time and money progressifly gets less fun - meant i don't want to play
becomes a drug like other wheere you dont stop to investements with people owning and paying for like 150+ premium ships - take my advice get out early
agree to matchmaking issues and too much rng on matches is silly
As someone wil has played for 5 years myself and i play all classes diversity is the spice of life, i agree with your statements, hipper i just don't understand like you said if he wants skilled mm trainingrooms are right there 🤣, bureau is just fine, if you play ai you can do the bureaus pretty fast greetings from the Netherlands
Some very good points and spot on. Your first point of the horrible players is why most stop playing.
I kept leaving and coming back. I am pretty much done. I am so sick and tired of clueless teammates leaving their flanks, not doing their roles and wargaming not caring as long as they keep getting their money. Its beyond frustrating. Ive been playing world of tanks since early on, was a beta player on pc, then switched to legends when my pc died. Ive probably spent $5k through the last 12-14 years. I have played alot but ALL their games have the same problems because its wargamings model. I got suckered to spending money last november even though i swore I wouldnt. Then they shat on their experienced players with horrid winter rewards. It was a complete slap in the face. Shame on me as I should have known better.
I am beyond done with them and will NEVER do another wargaming game.
VII Quitter
You're right. But the game hasn't just been fucked up since yesterday. I don't play this game much anymore, I've been playing it for almost 5 years. now it's over. I hope you have fun playing Hipper II with others. stay relaxed, greetings to you, bye
U have so many caracter and ship my first acc that i have got bann for no reason i have need star a 2 acc i dont now if i can get all the ship back i got like the california and other old ships
Agree with most of your takes. The but exception is mobile. Mobile will be terrible for the game. It will bring next level casual players and lots of folks not finishing games because it’s mobile….
I started playing this game when it first came out. I just can't seem to get into it tho. I have like 596 battles. The highest tier I play is 5 but mostly I play 3 and 4. I feel like I want to get better before moving up. My win rate right now is 56% so it's not like I'm terrible but again I just don't seem to enjoy this game. I have little to nothing invested in this game so that's good. With that said I don't have have any of these good commanders. I basically play destroyers and cruisers. I might have about 10 games in battleships. They are just boring to me. 0 games in cv's. I hate those players
Yep im honestly playing skyrim with the occasional Colombo match
Hmm, yes I understand you're Frustrations Hipps. But perhaps if I did have an audience that enjoys my gameplay I would still provide, and on the other hand I wouldn't just play it on my Free time. If that makes sense
Your points are the same reason i leave the game too. Mostly because the game got boring, the events are nearly identical and the playerbase got worst overtime, devs lost the sense of the future for the game aswell. I started to play on the gremy campaign and didnt stop since the last leg of 2023. Is impressive how Weegee don´t care to the game live longer making players improve his skills and literally only focus on make money, they didnt think making a better playerbase makes the game live longer.
So damage has damaged the game, i can’t help but agree 🤷♂️
Probably the reason I play mostly at T5 & 6, legend is a waste of time, T8 gets mixed to frequently with legends and T7 with 8.
Hope they up their game, change it about a bit and you come back at some point in the future
1 agree, 2 agree, 3 sort of agree its just the nature of the beast as some ships will be superior to others on paper at least skill still matters, 4 bureau is the biggest culprit of poor high tier player qaulity, 5 agree the recent influx of ships not having any utility to their base kits is just absurd you cant super cruiser your way through every match, mobile will make it worse
I dont like how some ships seem to get it all. Instead of spreading the love around. These waffle stomps are getting annoying too. I dont need to survive every battle, but when its so slanted, its obvious the teams were not split evenly. The tier seperation annoys me too, im a tier 5 going against tier 7.. especially when im the only bottom tier ship...yeah, i can tell we're not gunna win that one.
First. WWHHAAZZZZ UUPPPP 😎. I agree. We definitely need variety in gameplay strategy.
Yes we do
We miss you buddy. I learned a lot from your videos. Old salty 🐕 here, always can learn new tricks. I love when I can dodge whole salvos.
It's all about them making money. I'm an xp chaser therefore I play to win. I also tell people if you aim to stay alive but play positively as well you will be competetive. With the high dpm ships I feel like I've had to adapt. I used to always play full rudder like you but now I go more concealment but I still base my play how you always taught with full rudder builds. Defo don't play too much myself anymore as the game is v stale. Need to play in div to have any interest at all.
I understand 😊
Hippmeister! I feel your pain. I think you might need a break. I take time away from it, sometimes for months, just not to get frustrated and burned out. Be a shame to lose you, the content you have provided and the insightful gameplay and some truly interesting builds has been a great asset to the community.
You can't simple win the game with all the caps if your whole team gets sunk you have to do damage to the any and sink them I'm terrible at dd play Everytime I try to cap I get spotted and Thier team piles on my pop a smock ya say it gets flooded with torps soni just try to sink the enemy team anymore lol
I invested so much in booth Legends and WOT it really is absurd.I feel like stuck and I only do play for my own fun .I do not care about statistics at all there is no point with the complete lack of balance.Your points are pretty much in line with my own and I feel many have the same feelings WG just dont care unless it hurts them moneywise.I remember well the change in WOT with 6.0 update it took 2 years for WG to get there shit together but really it has no future players are sitting in the back with big BB.s.......Consealmeant mod for BB.s is probabley the worst desicion ever made but latley there are desicions that has destroyed the fun and balnce is worst then ever.About the commanders there are a lot of the choises that really needs a overhaule and I agree there are some that makes no sence at all.
I just come back to WOWSL becuause afer 10yrs of world of tanks THAT game has suffered from WG 'buisness model' of increasing the damage of new tanks and with advent of cold war we got get TIER 19 Tank games 15v15 players That can often be 15 to 0 wins in just 4 or less mins. Complete power creep. The game used to be about angling armour and cover and some tactics, but with almost 1000mm of penetration plus missiles that do half of your total health, that is no longer an option, now drive at 70kph turret lock and shoot, that is now the game. Also the lack of suitable maps. And gereral lack of care by WG.
Regarding WOWSL , yeah, i see power creep, cramped, VERY cramped maps cluttered with huge islands that attempt to funnel players and cause brawls. Lack of strategey.
Needs a more ADULT game mode. Bigget maps , why spawn so dammed close EVER GAME and playing with NO CV's needs to be an option.
The commander building process requires HUGE amounts of player TIME and all that time gets negated when they have CV Spotting, and huge damage buffs.
How does a completly NEW player get started ??? Thats a big problem. Experinced players with maxed out commanders and ships and map knowlege v level 1 noob !! Really.
You done some good content Hipper but when you've had enough it don't matter if you have prem time to 2027 and £2500 WORTH OF SHIPS. No FUN NO PLAY. 👍🇬🇧
I have stopped as well Von Hipper😊 I learned to,play from you so thank,you ❤. WG profiteering doesn’t allow them to change game, it’s all about $, you literally pay $ for every battle, ship fees etc, so they have no motive to make it like a real game, it’s all just a scheme to,take $ from each player for,a;most every game action.
Well said
I play Diablo and other RPGs, too. These are very good points certainly certain ships need better mods for. Sure. I agree 👍, I've played less and less past year, takes breaks cone back and try if I feel if it's going to hell l, I logout and go to other games. I would have more legendary ships, too, but ya those breaks costs me my premium time that I got, and also another reason not to pay is I feel players are getting ripped off by the monetization of this platform Grambling mechanics. If I wanted to gamble, I'd go to a casino 🎰 not give WG anymore money. Then I already have. It feels like a sinking ship atm.
I don't disagree but for me, what makes this game a chore is RNG. It really frustrates me when I supposedly have an accuracy commander but when I see my salvo, the shells just go all over the place.
All of this is true and why I only play casually now, never in any serious capacity. Its 2020 and youre asking for Fleets? Oh dont worry, youll get it in 3 years once we're done with the 78 UI updates. An Auction House that isnt an Auction House, a Ranked mode that doesnt actually Rank people, an Arena mode that DOES rank people but the name is taken so its called Arena, a Forge where you can grind out the rarest ships in the game but we'll only ever add 2 and once you buy one will discount it by 50% for everyone else because we hate you specifically and think your dad was right for leaving. Remember the bug that stops your steering input when you use the coms wheel that was..fixed? And then unfixed? The absolutely critical lack of balance testing that leads to these hilarious forever-broken ships like Mainz. On the rare occasion they DO make decent balance changes they just sell you an un-nerf commander. Dont like Kansas reload nerf? $20, heres AL Colorado who buffs it back and then some. Dont like the Zeiten secondary nerf? $20, heres AL Bismarck who buffs it back and then some. Its just extremely, extremely frustrating and at this point my buddies and I are only logging in to burn time until a new multiplayer game drops
If not about damage then what
Variety
@@VIIHIPPER You see I think there is variety but I guess different strokes for different folks
Plenty of support skills or inspirations on commanders but they all have worthless percentages. Look at someone like Kinkaid. Who is gonna use him as inspiration for a 5 percent cool down on sonar? Nobody. You think WG would say hey maybe let's buff that to 15 percent and some people might start building for team support instead of damage.
@@pinkyskeleton5410your right, 5% cooldown on sonar is silly.
But 5% stealth or 5% main gun recharge reduction isnt anything to sneeze at.
SHOW LOVE FOR THE FREE 2 PLAY PLAYERS WARGAMING
I have the same problem
so i will sell my account
1000% agree
I love chess that is why I still play The Game that simple
But it isn’t a chess game when the board is all Queens
This playerbase couldn't play Checkers, never mind Chess.
@@pinkyskeleton5410 Roger that
This game ain't chess.
And if your that asshole that sits at spawn thinking your the queen and wont move then I'd imagine your partly the reason hipster left...
Some good points Atago VIi. And wait- ohio and new campaign?? So youre still here? We miss you. Just come back make agila zao and have fun with us and all the crap players. I cant be a junkie by myself
I quit 6 month ago
- They keep nerfing any ship I use and enjoy
- Too much hate for carriers when the players are the blamed for not being aware
- They didnt add new carriers for like a looong time now
- The game is very unbalanced when it comes to fighting divisions why even try, imagine ur alone and 3 guys wants to beat u telling each other what to do and where he went
- Game seems very repetitive so that got boring so fast, it was enjoyable before bcuz everything was balanced but now u just see some american battleships deleting ships bcuz of that broken commander in which they will never nerf and if u call it out they will group up on u and say ur a total BS nothing wrong it etc
Divisions is a real problem, too
''Too much hate for carriers'', why would that be do you think?
@@mrkos87 cry babies
This is what happens. When you take a GAME to seriously 🤦. It's a game end of story... Maybe you'll get a life now 🤣🤣🤣. Don't let the door hit ya.......
Your first point, what is WG supposed to do about players who have a lower skill level? Long tutorials will flat out cause people to quite, other video games has proven this. Telling people basic game mechanics will only go as far as the player learning wants to learn. (You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it.) Biggest question, what is the hardest definition of a experience player?
Your second point... I'm just flat out confused about. You do realize that the game is a, PVP game. At some you will need to do damage. We have ruddershift builds for three different classes, we have full damage builds for three classes, we have full stealth builds for three classes, fire builds for two...maybe three classes(?). The class with the least amount of build options is CVs. My question here, is what type of builds would you like? Healing allies? Support builds that buff allied ships?
Silly ships... well here, if people played to win, carry, then you would see this ships all the time and only these ships. Wait, you don't? Hmmm....
Bureau is just, odd. Its something that too me is just in the background. It completes over time. Only thing you have to do is the required ship that you have a T8 ship. Literally a thing that stops inexperienced players from getting LT ships. (Older Bureaus projects doesn’t fit this.)
Also, the last point... did you ever recommend, made a video on different possible modifications? Oh! Your point here is you want modifications that fit a ruddershift build. Nothing else? Really? You complained about the game not having enough diversity in builds and recommend one that only benefits you. Weird point.
And by far... the biggest point of the video... not enough difference from full damage builds. Its a PvP game, like I even went to the game in the microsoft store to see if it was labeled as anything else... nope. PvP. Literally says player vs player 2-18.
Honestly, at this point someone should make a video of CCs being dev striked, doing potato games, zero damage games, being disconnected and doing nothing and say, "Look how bad the CCs is!" Because thats literally the example that CCs give with the playerbase. There flat out clickbait videos that only show off horrible friendly teams. Not once have I seen a video of a CC saying how bad the red team is. Extremely weird isn't?
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I have dived into every single build: Agile, ghost, anti-dispersion, secondary you name. None can compete with a flat out damage build. Booooooring.
But, did you mention it in the video? No, I watched it, and you just kept repeating the same point over and over again. (Edit, because I will admit when I am wrong) *You only mention, "They tried with this commander but it didn't work."
Honestly I'm rather amazed the only thing you commented on was the full damage builds! XD
If people quit Because a properly robust tutorial it's on their lazy brain fault. Stop white knighting WG balls. They are a greedy and lazy company. Gtfo bro no one knows you and u didn't contribute anything with this comment nor with any gameplay. At least hipper showed some good stuff and out of the box with some different builds than ur stupid meta brainless one.
Hi.
Too many BB in the game.
Should be something like maybe 1CV-2BB-4CC-3DD. if no cv in game add one more cc or dd.
Most of the time 5 to 6 BB - sometimes 1to 3 CC and DD makes it hard to play.
Don't get me wrong I play playing BB. Most of the time it's BB vs BB. should change the name to world of Battleships.
What an irrelevant video. None of these are the reason you stopped. You stopped cause you backed yourself into a singular rudder build corner while claiming everything else was “boring” and got burnt out. So either just say that or remain silent.
I played all builds, mate. And I tried everything available. You sound like the exact t reason I quit.
@@VIIHIPPER I know you did. Your Richelieu video is great. Good riddance 🖖🏼
War IS damage
Not according to Sun Tzu
I put it down since last summer. Game is stale and nothing new. After the yoshino and Zao they showed their hand. Pay walls and grinds are ridiculous. I play every now and then but after playing since release every game gets old and this one is old to you and I. The guy who picks it up a year or two ago yeah it may be fresh but the game is too focused on money and player count online. That is why the grinds are longer. Adding more time so more player hours and not player count. Increasing the number of wins the wins in premiums really. Grind grind grind. Giving the game a break is a great thing. I play uninstall then reinstall. Every couple of months. Congrats hipper join the hundreds of us who have moved on. I'll see you out there.
My biggest problem with the game is that fucking HE spammer. Behind island and that map end drifters.
And that the legends team didnt make what the comunity want. And the legends team give a fuck of the community.
And the biggest problem
Will to rebuild is nerved and the he damage for cruisers get higher. So mutch cruisers they buffed and so mutch battleships they nerved. Wtf. Why? Thats the reason i didnt make any more videos for my channel and thats the reason why i didnt play the game now.
The game wemt down hill fast with carriers, they have unlanced the game with torps on Battleships, silly range secondaries too many radars on battleships should be a cruiser thing. The game reqards carriers and bbs now.
There was a nice ballance but to sell ships and make money they have upset the balance of ahips and the game.
Love you boss always friend forever my favourite captain hehe xx ❤
What about the match making where the red team has 6 ships with sonar and radar and the blue team has 2? I played a match where every DD on the team had sonar or radar and the blue team has ZERO. BUT yes stupid or selfish players really make the game not fun to play. Sorry to see you go.
Pay to win mechanics are performing too powerfully, better nerf secondary build battleships and buff Colbert's RoF
Relax, have fun. You're trying to be ultra competitive in a free game. Save it for Clan battles and ranked!
HIS POINT: no fun to play. If you don't play the strongest ships (small group), you lose = no fun
Cmon hipper none of this is a good reason to quit, please come back.
We have had a very rapidly growing competitive community for almost 9 months. We play tournaments over several weeks, small events or play regular training games. For many of us this has been an absolute game changer. We have created structures that are all outside of the actual game and invisible to many. but they exist. If you're unhappy with all the standard stuff, you might want to take a look at this.
I waited 4 years for clans. By then my interest had already faded. I am happy for you guys though - this is how you keep the fun going
Sounds like you haven't changed your play style in over 3 years adapt or lose
I have tried and invested filly into every build possible.
Same
Honestly, I only agree with one of your complaints. That is about bad players, and WG not relaying proper playing skills. All of the rest is crying because good players can overcome majority of your other complaints. That being said I'm happy you stepped back from WOWL because your misery was all we could see in your videos.
I stopped playing because all the amature wankers sailing into the mess and get blow up. 6 min into the game and I am alone against the entire red team. Very frustrating.
so basically you want your rudder cruiser build to be unbeatable and when someone shots at you in a battleship they miss everything by a mile? seems fair thanks
Yes, that would be nice
The most broken ship in the game is Colbert
I dont think that is too bad
Hipper, why do you think they would do a mobile roll-out to extend WoW Legends? They could have done that for PC with console but instead they created Legends to separate it (and the game doesn’t even feel the same). iirc they actually have a crappy mobile version of the game already but it’s absolutely trash.
I’d say if you quit Legends, look at the original on PC. Yah they have submarines that people complain about but the PC version handled its core mechanics better than legends - such as bow tanking and angling. You got 10 tiers of ships no legendary tier. And you got 12v12 instead of 9v9 (which makes getting krakens easier in theory but it’s mitigated by stronger HP pools and proper mechanics to ballistics etc.)
You should give it a try.
I do not have Worcester in legends yet, but it’s the first Tier 10 ship I got in the PC version of the game. In those days, I was very hung on AA capabilities of the U.S. cruisers back when Carriers were RTS. In those days, PC WoW taught players to stick together to overlap AA “bubbles” b/c carriers were nuts OP. This is probably why you are seeing WoW Legends players not holding the line all the time as they abandon flanks for grouped up defense (but I’ve seen it happen a lot without carriers too so it’s not 100%).
Every stage of the game has been different in both titles but maybe you will find what you are looking for in PC.
Yep, always thought battleships were OP, and so pretty pointless playing cruisers at times for average players like me. And again yes about the matchmaking - sometimes you can play for a couple of hours, rank on your team but still lose every match. Enjoyed you videos dude, all the best on you next project 👍🏻
Really? I always found esp light dpm cruiers to be the strongest ships in the game. Battleships are floating slot machines in comparison.
So it appears VII Hipper held a Retirement Press Conference by listing his 5 reasons for leaving WoW: Legends.
I'm going to weigh in on this....
This may be wordy...a reader's time and discretion and attention span is advised.
1. Bad Players.....Hipper's right, we do have a lot of bad players in WoW Legends, and it can be very very tiresome after a while, especially when one observes a spacklehead player throwing a match.
Hipper says Wargaming has failed to address this problem. He mentioned a "hundred ways" to address the problem, though he didn't really dive into those 100 ways very much at all, but then again we are talking about a hundred ways...and Hipper says he's a busy man...
...more on that busy part later on, stay tuned!
So yeah, I can agree with him to a point, but here's where that point becomes a disagreement....Bad players are everywhere in all sorts of co-op shoot-em up games.
Why? Time, Life, and personality for starters, in other words people are different and so are there priorities.
Such things can't be controlled out there. Everyone is different and Wargaming wants everyone to spend their time and money on this game when applicable, regardless if they are good or bad at WoW Legends.
THAT means ya gotta let the bad players roll off your back like water off a duck in the Colorado River. It's ok to be frustrated, but if you're gonna play a co-op shoot 'em up game then you have to expect this phenomenon to be a thing out there. Otherwise you'll be spending too much time unhappy with unrealistic expectations. Sometimes ya gotta laugh at the stupid things ya see, or take a break...or retire when the game is putting the fun in funeral.
Expecting Wargaming to control it is unrealistic.
2. Damage Focus.......this will be a hoot. Hipper claims that the commanders, particularly those of Azur Lane origins, are too damage focused which in turn pigeonholes a player to choose out of necessity, a commander build to reflect this.
Their are two reasons why Hipper's argument on this matter blows up like the Death Star. Firstly WoW Legends is a shoot 'em up arcade style game...let that reality sink in for minute. Complaining about damage focused stuff in a shoot 'em-up game is like complaining about too much horsepower in Forza Motorsports.
Secondly, it's not accurate....why? I'm glad ya asked. VII Hipper's entire product is built on effectively countering that concept...he's the Agile Guy and has been the Agile guy for a very long time.
One could play a drinking game to how often Hipper uses the word "Agile"
I can't help but wonder if "Agile" is on his license plate or if he has a Tattoo that says "Agile"....he loves that word very very much, because he adores the concept. If Pope Francis is looking for the Patron Saint of Agility...then VII Hipper is the man for that appointment, which why this particular complaint makes zero sense to me.
Hipper developed a play-style that he demonstrated masterfully. He promoted this game-style with enthusiasm. It's literally designed to counter in-coming salvos by making the enemy miss as much as possible.
His successful/chosen style of game play contradicts his position, not to mention that it's not a style that everyone uses. It's a bit of a niche thing but it works for VII Hipper.
Also consider this truth...those Azur Lane commanders are subject to the skill sets of the player base along with RNG AND whatever commander build the enemy is also using to counter it, so those percentages that Hipper complained about are not a promise of results by any stretch...he should have known that, which is why I can't take his position regarding damage focused builds very seriously. It makes me wonder if VII Hipper is a bit disingenuous.
3. Silly Ships.....Hipper specifically showcased the Worcester as being a DPM nightmare with a 32mm bow and radar that can allegedly carry a game in the hands of a very good player 80% of the time.
Firstly the Worcester is an American ship. The United States has had the best navy in the world for a long time , so it should be a technological nightmare...aside from Hipper's use of hyperbole, that ship and the Des Moines can be encountered and countered out of a match...how?
Like Hipper said...the player base is poor so that means the full impacts of these ships is limited by its user, and RNG. Ships like the Worcester and Des Moines are designed to unleash hell on the enemy and the enemies job is to unleash hell to counter it. There's enough unskilled players out there to render these ships useless very quickly, as well as skilled players who can use them with precision.
4. The Bureau....in a nutshell the Bureau ushered new players to skip the grind process and obtain a top tier vessel and it hurt the quality of game play, which I agree with Hipper....that's on Wargaming's stupidity....but...they did address this in the Bureau well over a year ago by requiring a player to advance IF and only IF they have Tier 6,7, and 8 ships from a specific tech tree.
Hipper's additional complaint of not liking the conditions of the Bureau requiring that certain ships be played, that he does not like to play is not a Wargaming problem, that's a VII Hipper problem. Hipper added that he's a busy man, ok....well Hipper, the world is full of busy people so pointing out that you're busy isn't particularly remarkable.
5. Diversity.....part of this was a summary of reasons 1-4 with an additional take on epic and legendary damage mods currently available. He suggested an epic/legendary rudder mod with a torpedo spotting boost.
I guess Hipper thinks he needs a ship that can corner like the light cycles from TRON....good luck with THAT wishful thinking...This is World of Warships not Forza Motorsports.
If ya want agile...try driving a Lotus.
Diversity is defined as "the state of being diverse-variety"
WoW Legends has over 400 ships, well over 100+ commanders that allow a player to be a Brawler, a Sniper, Flanking Speedster, a ghost, a secondary monster, a finesse agile player, a anti-aircraft curmudgeon and even an aviator.
That's Diversity as defined.
Is WoW Legends perfect?
No.
Is it as a awful as VII Hipper describes?
For him it is, and that's fine.
But as of 12,000 matches, I don't see it that way.
It seems to me that VII Hipper is blaming Wargaming and WoW Legends for failing him, so he's leaving which is fine, because I'm not very sentimental in these matters. Life will go on and so will this game with or without VII Hipper...Hipper's lack of self awareness regarding his reasons, negatively impact his position. He's been accused of occasionally sounding like an elitist...at times he does sound like an elitist, other times, not so much. Maybe that depends on whether he's drinking a whiskey sour while commenting 😜
He used the word "Boring" enough for me to notice the frequency of his use of that word, which is kinda telling of a guy who played a game 17,000 times in 5 years. Perhaps he played a bit too much. It happens.
What Hipper is selling here is something that I'm not buying which is the responsibility of his decision is placed solely at the feet of Wargaming, when in reality VII Hipper made this decision by himself, not Wargaming.
He needs to own that decision. But that's up to him.
Now some of you including ol' VII Hipper may agree or disagree and that's fine. These are Moony's views of Hipper's 5 reasons. That means I will sleep well regardless of your opinion.
That also means that I wish Hipper well, he has to play video games that he enjoys because it is his time and money, not mine. When a game feels more like a chore or a job, it's time to move on.
What he's doing is good for the game.
If he returns that'll also be good for the game.
Daily creates should have a chance to drop a ship, war gaming is so greedy, i stopped buying creates and cancelled my subscription my odd will remain the same
Bad players is not a valid reason, you should’ve put that reason last because I switched off after that comment 😂