Is This the Future of Astronomy?
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- čas přidán 7. 10. 2021
- A special thank you to @Astrobiscuit for the cameo! It was a huge thrill to have him on.
This is Stellina. Is it my enemy?
It does almost everything I do to take pictures of space, but it does it faster, without me.
They call Stellina an observation station. It’s not only a telescope, but a camera, and a computer that processes images.
In many ways, it represents the future of amateur astronomy. Can it replace my 10 years of astrophotography experience?
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I’m a disable/handicap person, so it’s always complicated to carry heavy stuff, and that’s one of the reason I never did the first step in astro world… but yet, I love astrophotography and would hope it would be more accessible to everyone, including to me in my situation. So it might not be cheap, but if the results are there, I think it’s not more expensive than a whole setup, and yet it could be more practical… at least for beginners/amateurs. I will definitely take a longer look at this Stellina. Thanks
I really wish to design a motorized compact mount.
This is such a good point! It provides accessibility, at a premium, but...accessibility.
@@BuckeyeStormsProductions hi
Is it that much of a premium?All that's included may not but much more than putting all together yourself?
Iam not an expert.
This right here is great and beyond the point I made in the reply above about how most are missing out on a buying and building their own build and getting satisfaction from their build and achieving end result. Your case, as well as others who are disabled, is what this all in one is perfect for and not leaving anyone out. You still miss out on the post processing experience but hey, maybe PP is not to your liking and this works well for you. As long as the night sky is accessible to you, achievement accomplished by getting more to "keep looking up."
I have 2 different system (Askar FRA500, iOptron CEM40EC, ZWOAA+, ZWOASI 2600mc Pro) and (ES80CF,HEQ5 Pro,ZWOAAPro,ZWOASI294MC Pro) I love them both but both are heavy and it takes time to setup all the while hoping and praying for a clear night. I bought Stellina (eta in 2 weeks) so I can drive further south or north from home then find a level area to balance, shoot for few hours and get back home. Stellina can never replace my scopes yet it may get dear hubby interested since it's so simple.
It’s not stellina or the rest. I own a stellina and I love it so much. But I also own a 200/1000 newton with all the bells and whistles with dedicated Astro ccd and filters and such and I love it too. It’s about enjoying the hobby no matter how or when. When I’m tired after a long day or work stellina is here to relax and enjoy the night. When it’s the weekend and I have the time I enjoy taking my badass rig in the field.
It’s not a battle with two armies, it’s one family with different members
That's exactly how I think about it. Stellina is a nice addition to your standard rig. Hopefully there will be some competition in the future and prices will drop and make it more affordable.
Yea also it in like a laptop you can not change scope or camera. Your badass rig can be flexable and upgeadable. To me tecnology is improving and I am poor. To get the most of it. Purchesing one by one is good option. You will get more juice and more experiance. If I have the money it is not a bad thing to have to be honest.
I don't know about you but if I just want to relax under the night sky without carrying my heavy 8" SC, mount, CCD, filter wheel and all the other stuff I'd rather just go with binoculars or even naked eyes than this overpriced toy.
well put
*No one , No robot , however good it gets - will ever replace the experience in the cold winter night , spending those hours in solitude embracing the night sky , thanking god for every shooting star , that anxiousness while the stacking in DSS counts the stars , etc*
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Or as a teenager with the shitty telescope your parents got you for Christmas, freezing your ass off while finally landing on the rings of Saturn and the moons of Jupiter. Epic moments
STELLINA: “Dave. What are you doing, Dave?”
ME * frantically trying to unplug it before I get sucked out the airlock.*
I laughed too much at this! 🤣🤣
Looks like the robot from Interstellar
I love seeing the collaboration between all the astrophotography youtubers that I personally follow. Your cooperation can only help this hobby reach the mainstream. Keep it up Trevor!
Great to see a biscuit / Astro backyard combo 👍
As much as I personally love 'proper' (self mocking) astrophotography, anything that makes astrophotography/astronomy more accessible to people is generally speaking only a good thing! - It's there for us all to enjoy, not just the 'elite' (again, self mocking) few who have the time and patience and sometimes mechanical knowhow to enjoy it!
Well said, Luke!
I dunno I personally don't think it makes astrophotography any more accessible considering its price tag. Usually people want to start out with something cheaper, to make sure that they like the hobby.
@@vesk4000 Maybe think of it as a pioneering start into a new branch of astro equipment. It's expensive now, but things might only get better and more affordable.
@@vesk4000 Preach, $4000 is a chunk of change to throw at a new hobby. For that money, you buy a boat or a motorcycle or any number of other things, all of which can be used during daylight hours when you can actually enjoy them with friends.
@@vesk4000 It's certainly a viable option for people who are cash rich but time poor :-) - but the important thing is it's just that, an option! we're lucky to have them :D
Thanks for posting this. I've seen several reviews of Stellina, but yours is the first where anyone's explained who this is for. As an astrophotographer, this might not be for me. But as a teacher, this would be perfect for my classroom. You made excellent points about where this would fit well for our hobby. There's a niche for this and what it does, it seems to do well. Thanks again!
Very good points Trevor, completely agree! I actually have an upcoming video about building your own modular Stellina (Cheap, Smartphone controlled, AltAz, no alignment needed, easy target selection, auto-platesolving, live stacking, etc.). What I dislike the most about Stellina and eVscope is the lack of upgradability... New sensor version? Buy a whole new Stellina! It's smartphonizes astronomy in terms of e-waste...
Agreed, the cons are lack of modularity, initial price and proprietary software. Will be interesting to see your more flexible variant and how you handle field rotation :)
updates?
Dude. Thank you for this video. "For my astrophotography friends, the diehards, I've got news for you: this isn't for us." That's exactly right. I've been trying to explain this to so many of the Stellina haters and you just summed it up perfectly.
100% I enjoy my camera equipment but whenever a new piece of gear is released that I don't think I'd use, I don't get upset about it. Yet some people who are clearly not interested in this roboscope feel the need to freak out as if it is a personal insult. It's not for them! What it has done, sadly, is reveal the underlying gatekeeping nature of many hobbyists.
Not a big deal too it is good but limited and not upgradeable. It is for fun for limmited targets and will be get old and you have to buy another model later with similar price.
@@cemoguz2786 but for a large number of interested hobbyists,they may never even get as far as stellina will take them,never mind beyond?
Man I've been waiting for your new video for ages, thank you ✊🏾🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼♥️
As someone in a wheelchair, I think Stellina would be a good telescope for someone like me. It would be nice to see what the telescope sees on my phone because sometimes it isn't easy for me to get to the eyepiece of the telescope
have you thought of using an bino observers chair? not as light gathering as a scape but i think that could be a solution
I have had my stellina telescope now for a year. I'm not new to the sky and how Sky conditions can change so quickly. It allows me to set it up very quickly go inside the house and enjoy my evening. I'm amazed at how many times it has been partly cloudy and I've got some the best images. I would have never attempted to do a setup with my own rig unless there was no clouds at all. It also takes away the guilt you feel when you don't or can't take advantage of a clear sky. Software updates have made the unit even more powerful. I liken this to the go-to telescope when they were first introduced years ago when everybody thought was going to destroy the hobby. There's going to be more Scopes like this in the future. It's going to introduce a lot more people to the wonders of astronomy and it's not going to take anything away from the person who enjoys the current state. Besides that the reason why we really do like astronomy is because we want to get away and enjoy the Solitude of the night sky. It's a noble Hobby.
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I also hope it makes people more aware of light pollution
This is in fact is an EAA telescope and the exact same thing I do with my SCT 9.25, view live stacking on sharpcap pro. Stellina is doing live stacking just like DOING EAA .when you get a single image then becomes astrophotography.
My setup is doing the exact same thing and cheaper, with larger aperture.
Not saying Stellina gas no place, it does, not its o miracle or nothing new, it's an EAA instrument first as its showing live real-time stacking onscreen.
This may well one day become the norm, when the tech becomes cheaper or if say celestron went down this road would become much cheaper and accessible.
The only issue is its a fixed system. I can use many different types of cameras and filters and can aim anywhere, not locked into a fixed number of objects.
Astronomy has become a lot more accessible over the years, with goto being used and computers, taking a lot of hard work out of the equation and getting easier overtime.
Stellina is a step in taking the hard work out of it and a quick setup. Maybe when your to old to be able to lug out all your gear, then this is were Stellina comes into it. Makes Astronomy more accessible. It's like you can enjoy a car without being a mechanic, wereas some like to tinker with cars and drive them.
Stellina has its place and can be very convenient as it takes dedication to be able to lug out all that gear, cameras, cables, etc and this can put people off.
Stellina is an up and go system, no fuss method, but limited to what's in its data base of course. But handy still the same.
I guess it's locked into all the objects that they know will show off the system and not show its weaknesses.
Would be great if it was like a goto, override what's in database to give compete freedom.
Hi
As your not new to skywatching,would you say that the cost of stellina isn't that much more than putting together an equivalent rig?
Hello! I'm not one for joining large group discussions, but I've been following for a while now. Just subscribed.
It makes me happy to know the type of photography I've strived to experience and learn is slightly closer to my reach.
Even if it's expensive 😭 love from Canada.
An excellent video and honest review. It certainly poses an interesting question and potential a foresight into the future of the hobby we all love. I see everyday people looking for the quickest way from image taking to processing to showcasing their images, this seems to be perfect for them.
This is the best review I’ve seen for this product. Great work Trevor!
Thank you for this video! I was wondering how good this thing was. I can appreciate the ease of use but I do enjoy the satisfaction of taking a good picture of the night sky myself. Love your work, keep it up! 👍🏻🙂
I love that you brought in the biscuit for this one. Big fan of ya both
Wow Trevor your channel just keeps soaring higher and higher into the night sky my friend!! 300'000 + Subs and the quality of content, the presentation, the music, the editing, the EVERYTHING has gone through the roof!! It's wonderful to see and follow my friend!! Well Done Trevor!! Thanks!! Wes, Liverpool UK.
Thanks for doing this video Trev. I was wondering about the stellina. 😊
hey Trevor another awesome video my foots getting loads better so here's hoping this will be the start of my proper astrophotography.....clear skies bud
Very good video and introduction to the subject, this is just the beginning I'm sure. We need a strong astrophotography community that knows the detail and has the skill to understand the subject, whilst at the same time allowing more people to join in the conversation.
i love stellina. so easy. enjoyable and fun. thanks 4 the review.
Very good Points Trevor!! Nice Review!👍🏻
It looks good. The images look like they could be good, but I love stubbing my toe on a weight, in the dark. Trapping my thumb in the mount or almost dropping the OTA trying to attached it to the mount head. That's the bit that makes this hobby GREAT!
Great review, I've been so curious about that thing. I agree with the majority of the AP community, in that it takes the fun and challenge out of the hobby. However, it sounds like a fantastic piece of equipment for those looking for a quick view and for individuals with physical barriers. It is an impressive piece of equipment. Anything to keep people looking up, I support! I'd like to check it out myself one of these days. Intriguing.
listening to music is not the same as learning to play , although this could be of great use to some. Love the content and of course the biscuit cameo
Aside from your knowledge and passion, some of the things I appreciate the most about your content is the honesty and sincerity you bring to the table. Thanks, Trevor!
This is awesome!!!! Just wish it had an eye piece also.
Love the cameo with Astrobiscuit!
Great video!
I purchase a Stellina in the spring to show my young family the night sky and frankly, although I would love a deep sky rig, I don’t have the time in my life right now to take that leap. It isn’t for everyone but it’s been so cool to get almost immediately gratification and to learn the night sky before spending more money and a lot more time on putting that dream rig together.
Great review of the stellina. This is what I recommended to my son for my grandkids. He would be lucky to have more than an hour to spend searching for celestial objects. This is a good way to bring astronomy to kids, most of whom are not going to be interested in the esoteric fine points of astrophotography, nor will want to stand around for hours adjusting equipment.
Great informative video, love the easy set up for rank novices like me. Thanks as always !
Trevor, my friend … this is JUST THE START! I get that there's a heap of joy and achievement in tweaking and setting everything up. But this makes it achievable for the masses. And hey, anything that opens up access to anything that excites us like The Great Unknown, well … that can't be a bad thing :)
love the astrobiscuit cameo!
Great show Trevor- very professional as always… one thing that was missing, which for most would be important is the portability… backpack design, battery life, carry on for holidays etc, but it will never replace a home rig… 👍
Someone at our club has one. The results are pretty good but no replacement of a good imaging set up.
Nice info Jim!
I see Stellina are putting up the big bucks this time around.
In my opinion (before watching this particular video) it's a nice idea that needs a lot of improvements and a bit of a cheaper price, so I assume it would be another 5 years before a worthy fully automated scope will hit the stores.
I love what you do... I've enjoyed many of your videos and the images you can catch. But I'm an older guy now... I don't have the patience to invest the hours needed to understand and learn how to do all the things you do. But this stellina robot is a shortcut to what I want. So today I've started the savings fund for it. haha Thanks for the review.
Definitely has it's place and, as you said, would be perfect for things like outreach, inspiring people to get into this wonderful hobby and giving them at least a glimpse of what is possible imaging from the suburban backyard. And given that its a rather compact, pretty instant, all in one system, it does a pretty good job by the looks of things.
A lot of the enjoyment I see with astrophotography is the complexity of it. Learning through trial and error is one of the most frustrating yet rewarding experiences I personally find the most fun. However, this is absolutely amazing for people who just want a more personal deep look into the night sky without having to put much thought into it. This is simply wonderful.
My Dream come true when I saw Astro Biscuit and You on one Channel!! Love you!
Great video. I hope more videos comparing Stellina with amateur-advanced astronomeer.
Lovely montage! 👍
Very interesting for outreach sessions. Thanks for sharing Trevor ;)
Everyone here talking about spending thousands of dollars in fancy toys while I'm over here trying to edit my blurry ass take of the orion nebula with my $100 garbage can.
My son is a Deputy principal at a highschool here in Australia. I did an astro night for them a while back and they also had an old 12"dob that was missing eyepieces and the base slipped and wouldnt hold the tube.. something like this would be perfect for them for their science classes because all the kids could view at the same time.. Great vid..
great review!
Great explanation of where it sits in the market.
You are right, I want to do it myself, family or friends may not though. This may be a GREAT gift..........
Great overview Trevor. Stellina isn’t for me simply my passion comes from sitting in a comfortable chair, peering through an eyepiece and sketching my target whilst listening to good music! To me that’s the pinnacle of my astronomy 🔭 I also enjoy teaching astronomy at our public viewing sessions. This is where Stellina will come to its own. You have a natural gift for presentation with Astro backyard. Using Ashley and Rudi brings family warmth. Great stuff keep up the good work 😊
Love your videos. But man oh man I would have loved to see more Stellima images of the sky as well as comparisons to traditional astrophotography.
This is great Trevor! Exactly what someone who has had a brain aneurysm, like me 🤓 needs. Now to find the dollars 😆. Seriously though, I will still rely on you to fullfil my full out astrophotography dreams. Clear sky's to everyone 🎇!
Fellow brain aneurysm survivor here!
Perfect for beginners. I'd love this piece of kit
Another great video, very informative and has left the viewer with lots of questions to ponder over...
I, myself have a foot in both camps. I'm just starting my astrophotography journey and I do want to learn all the in's and out's of this amazing hobby. So in that respect, I would not buy a Stellina.
But on the other hand, the thought of grabbing Stellina when theres a sudden clear night, especially in my neck of the woods, and then grabbing the kids to show them what's 'out there' on a whimp, would be so precious....
how the times will be changing. This reminds me of the days when digital cameras first started hitting the market. They couldn't match up to film at first, but now we can't live without them!
This is awesome. I currently have a ASI183MC Pro, Radian Raptor 61, CEM26, ASIAIR Pro. I would love to have this sitting right next to that, being able to multitask.
I think you nailed it with this one Trevor. Actually you nailed lots of things. I have a lot of fun building my own telescope stuff, for better or worse (usually the latter, but heck, it was FUN!). For me that's a vital part of the journey. This is different from the addictive feeling of being gobsmacked by the beauty and mystery of the universe made visible through a telescope. Not everyone can build their own stuff or are even interested in it. But everyone deserves a chance to have their mind blown. The gateway drug of choice for some may well be Stellina.
I've seen this before on AstroBiscuits channel and.....This reminds me of those little Meade goto tabletop scopes. I remember when they came out, how people said those would be great for people who aren't "into" astronomy, but still kinda wanted to do astronomy stuff, or for people to get into astronomy. I have yet to see someone actually own one, or use one. And this? What is the actual target audience - At THAT price? Four thousand dollars. This isn't for schools. Or for your kid(s). This is a toy (with really nice results) for wealthy people. Or worse: rich people, bought as a novelty gift and forgotten after a few weeks. Or for people on CZcams, who have enough reach to get expensive (astronomy) stuff for free. ;-)
I see the concept and it's wicked cool. But, I mean - who is into Astronomy enough, to pay 4000$ for a system, but at that price is NOT into Astronomy enough, to have any actual interest in the how to. Like, I can't see people who want to start from 0 and put down that money for a one-trick pony. Can it do planetary videos even? It obviously can't give you the feeling of standing behind/beside the thing and seeing something through the eye piece for the first time in your life.
Maybe in a few years, when the cheap china clones roll in, this will be a nice beginner thing for kids, or a cool christmas gift for one's retiree father. But, I mean, COME ON. FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS.
Yep, 4000$ is the biggest NoGo factor considering the results (which happens to be with a 2nd hand 750mm newton, not so mobile 400$ setup A LOT BETTER)
In my opinion the 2nd worst is the mount design from the beginning (but necessary for the 0815 average joe so he doesn't even have to know what polar alignment means)... I mean you basically CAN NOT BUILD A ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY "All in One" scope but it literally is based on the WORST MOUNT POSSIBLE, a Dobson like mount...
I See the usage of Dobson mount also in the fact they preferred design over usability, I mean this thing looks basically like a apple hipster device!
Also.. a midclass astro camera, a small raspberry pi like astrocomputer and a cheap 80mm APO give you basically the same experience for less money, more upgradability, a proper EQ mount (MEANT FOR AP!), and with a high chance better results for LESS MONEY.
Basically the biggest difference is... you need to know how to polar align (basic knowledge as soon you are only a bit interested in "real" AP), hopefully you are capable of connecting USB plugs. That's it.
I had ofcourse a lot of troubles with my EQ3-2 at the beginning, but its also an experience I don't want to miss (but I want to finally get rid of the cheap gear problems haha) since I basically learned the most by practicing with garbage gear, when I finally go for proper mounts I know already how to do :)
Thanks for doing this review Trevor, very informative. Stellina looks sleek, and smart but me personally, like many other amateur Astro togs have worked hard to find the equipment that fits and suits our needs. I’m all for it being portable for people who have mobility issues and maybe can’t lift or move a heavy Mount, and for teachers and the like to share the wonders of our night sky. 😊
I want one! Makes it easy to get my daughter on board and be able to take an image to school the next day. I get creating a rig. Kinda like a pre built RC Car vs building a custom one, but starting with a pre built gets you up and running and having fun.
I totally agree with everything you said on this video. So unbiased. It is really rewarding to see sky objects after the hard work using the traditional telescope. While the new technology provides simplest and fastest approach which can be used in many ways such as hiking qnd other conventions.
I think astronomy and therefore astrophotography is going in the right direction with this. It opens up the hobby for so many people out there, no matter their physical condition or educational background.
Astronomy is a great thing, it makes you feel a deep connection with everything around you, it puts you in your place and is very humbling, but in the most beautiful way possible.
Agreed 100% The utter and frustration and wires and power supplies, lenses. Cameras, scopes. Filter wheels!!! Its quite overwhelming. Within a few short years, these Robotic telescopes will equal and surpass traditional astrophotography.
Ive been waiting for this for so long. I t wil never replace you. Because i wouldnt buy it if you did not review it 💫
Most definitely one of the best reviews of a product I've ever seen.
You have a great Yard Love the double Tier Deck, the Pup most importantly and that Dome did the HOA give you a rough time about that?
Definitely great for clubs...connect it to a short throw projector...teach people who have never really seen the night sky...
EAA is growing and stellina is the ultimate EAA scope, does everything I sm doing now, but doing it on an sct 9.25, with reducer
Astrobackyard and astrobiscuit collab yessir
Great video! I can see a huge advantage in a very rapid set up and shoot. Lugging costly fragile kit into the middle of a muddy field under dark sky to capture an object is somewhat painful (especially if there are bulls in the field). If astrophotography is just Pokemon for adults then Stellina will help you bag targets and tick them off. If you want technical challenge, full framing control, filter control, processing control and that feeling of joy when it all goes right and you have that final image and can say "I took that"; then maybe don't go Stellina. I might wait for the 120-150mm version!
even if I have a few extra dollars to spare I would prefer the rig . The process of the astro photography and the experience that it gives us via the rig can never be replaced.
I'm writing this prior to watching this video and I could be completely wrong. But I doubt it, however you'll probably say nice and non-committal things about this shiny, bleeping, overpriced lump of plastic.
"Seriously Trev, torch it, kill it with fire.
It's the very antithesis of your channel, your journey, our shared passion for learning this incredible 'hobby' that blends art and science.
It's not about the destination, its the gradual improving and acquired knowledge along the path that's so rewarding.... Sorry fella, I'm baffled"
I disagree, a little. I would love to have some folks around me with these little guys, if only to have someone to hang out with while I am imaging at night. Even if a buddy had one of these and we just have a couple beers and bs'd for a few hours, that would be great. As it is, I spend half and hour setting up my imaging run and then either fall asleep in my lounge chair or in the cab of my truck when it gets cooler outside. So far, astrophotography has been a completely solo experience for me.
@@jimgunn4498 yeah, I was a little harsh. There's a place for these devices, but it's so niche and inapplicable to Trevs ethos and audience. Yes, an astro-buddy makes all the difference. I'm more inclined to get out into the wilds if he wants some low Bortle data and vice verca. Maybe Join a local club and I guarantee you'll find someone in just the same boat as you... Or post some of your images on your local community Facebook page and you will have backyard AP folks coming out of the woodwork...
@@clungebucket23 Also, wouldn't you rather see it reviewed by someone with actual experience and knowledge about astrophotography instead of some yahoo on a CZcams channel that just reviews iPhones and smart TV's? I would.
@@jimgunn4498 well, it wasn't much of review was it? More of a rough promotional overview with no analysis of the output.
This might be a great platform to hack for automated asteroid and comet searches.
Very good starting
Finally the Astrobiscuit collab
AstroBackyard and Astrobiscuit One of the Best Channels on CZcams
I am a bit frustrated that you don’t comment on the final quality of the images. I mean, not only on the phone where poor quality images may still shine but on a PC larger screen for example: what is the resolution? Any chromatic aberration (it’s only a doublet)? How is the light pollution suppressed ? Are the stars really round (polar alignment precision…) ? It would be nice to have a comparaison between a capture with Stellina and with a simple rig of a similar 80mm doublet…
I am afraid people would invest the fortune needed to buy this and be quickly disappointed by its limitation and poor output.
I may be wrong though.
I mean the results kinda say for themselves. A well-processed photo from an 80mm triplet will smash that photo of the M42 shown in the video. The sensor is 6.4MP 1” I think which is inferior to many Astro cameras. Stellina use an alt-az mount and a field derotator so PA is unnecessary. The lack of OAG makes me suspect it only takes very short exposures (like,
Have a look at the shoot out between Robot and Nerd by His Royal Biscuitness who has a cameo in this vid for comparison images..
@@Astronurd that makes a lot of sense, but seriously, what a waste of the field derotator.
If they put the same sensor as an ASI1600 and an OAG in there, and it could do say 2min exposures, it might actually be a very capable instrument.
Also I can actually see the stars seem a little bit purple… maybe that’s the CA OP was looking for.
"I may be wrong though." The Internet needs more of this humble attitude.
The Antibiscuit😂😂😂😂I Think Its Time For You and Bunny To Have a Shoot Off,lol..Great Video Trevor..But I Love My Scopes,and Gear,Even Tho Im Still Learning Polar Aligning,and Havent Guided Yet..Damn Leaves Need To Go Away So I Can See Polaris😂But I Do Use Your Step By Step Guide For Drift Aligning And It Does Pretty Good,So Im Becoming A Little More Familiar..And I Caught When U Called Stellina Eve,lol..Clear Skies,and God Bless❤️🙏🏼✨🌏🔭
Nice! Btw any chance you got to review the Hyperia 😅
Many innovations have opened this hobby to larger and larger communities everywhere on the planet.
I reckon a lot of us are young at heart and have some free time to enjoy the outdoor..
When I was in my 20s and early 30s all I did was party, enjoy nights out, have fun with friends. Astronomy was in the back of my mind but I just didnt have the time. Stellina would have been nice to have, but we werent there yet.
I’m glad I enjoyed those crazy years but now I’m enjoying life with my current hobbies.
Having said that, I welcome this robot and believe that is going to be a great package to those young and older folks who dont have the space or time for this hobby.
They can finally enjoy their evenings and late nights out or with good friends knowing for sure that Stellina is gathering a precise array of pictures.
Who knows, it may well be the conversation hit of an after hours party …
For the moment, I will stick to my middle age routine and enjoy the hobby as it is.
I see parallels with the way people use motorcycles, cars, computers. There are many people that love to modify their vehicles with turbochargers, custom exhausts, brakes, etc. And many people still love to build their own computers. Those things are fun and people love to do them. But the majority of people are happy with their motorcycles and cars and computers without taking them apart or knowing much about how they work. I'm happy to see this Stellina product and can see its appeal.
Yup driving myself crazy trying to figure out how to set and take astrophotographs then getting m telescope damaged due to a sudden wind gust that blew it over. Now I have to start over. So right now my tele is in the attic stored.
I can see this being a good option for those people who don't necessarily have the background to understand how to go about setting up a rig. The challenge is half the fun for me but not everyone. Be interesting to see how these hold up long term.
Not for me right now but maybe the second or third iteration of the Stellina, one with a slide in 5 position filter wheel and a selection of two cameras, one mono and a one shot color. Now that would be cool. All the technology is already in use and available, just needs implemented into one sleek package. That would make for a great piece to take on an RV trip to a dark sight or just something fairly easily to setup and takedown for the older seniors. Pretty cool!!
1:40 is the perfect summary - if you just want a picture, go for it. If you like the hobby - avoid it. There is always someone who gets the better picture - if you enjoy the process, the thing is not for you either :D
In short - expensive toy to teach you that there is no target audience :D
I often get this crushing feeling that I can google a thousand astro images roughly the same as mine, and think start to think what's the point in capturing my own? This automated thing really hits that nerve... where basically the only differences would be due to weather conditions, and some editing. So instead of hitting a button on Stellina to see the Orion nebula, why not hit a button on Google?
One a robot gets the photo, the other somebody else did... where as if you capture it yourself manually at least you have a significant input on the quality of the results, and learn a lot along the way
amazing stellina 😍🔭
When I first took an image of Neowise with my smartphone I was hooked. After over a year I’m nowhere near being able to take decent images of the night sky but I’ve learned so much more than a rig like this would allow. I’ll admit, there have been more than one night where I’ve crawled into bed in the wee hours of the morning empty handed and thinking, “why hasn’t someone just come up with a more automated way to do this stuff?” This rig is exactly how I imagined it could be. But this rig is obviously somewhat limited to objects suited for its focal length. Knowing all the little details and on my way to a full rig setup, all I have to do to progress to deep sky objects which this rig can’t reach is flip the scope and I’m on my way. Having said all that, if money wasn’t a limiting factor, I’d already have one of these!
Great! Astronomy whithout leaving your smartphone!
One thing im questioning myself - if this thing does everything for me, and my only job is to choose an object (on my smartphone) and watch its outcome (also on my smartphone) - how long would i enjoy that? I don't say our hobby has nothing to to with consommation, but that is consommation in perfection.
U really motivate me
That's a pretty impressive bit of technology. I'd heard about Stellina, but hadn't really seen any of the pictures it was capable of delivering. Given it's only on an alt/az (not equatorial), I'm surprised the pics looked as good as they did. Still, as I continue to research what rig I'd like to eventually set up for myself, the Stellina isn't what I'm dreaming about. I understand who it's been built for, but, for me, how you do a thing is at least as important as the end result, so I'm definitely going with the Frankenstein model.
It has a field derotator
Hello in my opinion seeing through eyepiece in physical telescope is a wonderful experience and it is never replaced by robotic telescope
Could be very useful for schools. I'm an astrophotographer and a middle school science teacher. One of the problems with trying to have a "telescope night" here in NJ is that there are very few interesting targets you can see: moon, jupiter, saturn, maybe mars, maybe Orion nebula. I want to try it with an eyepiece rig and with EAA. With EAA the kids would be able to see nebula and galaxies that could not be seen through the eyepiece. The fast setup would be a major plus for a school night activity with very few hours to work with.
You’re a thoughtful Dude Trevor…good luck to you and Ashley- Don Henley’s “For My Wedding”
Hello! Interesting video. If is to easy and it does everything it takes away the challenges. I think Having a machine to capture the sky by itself it can replace the feeling of also observing through a telescope or getting better results by tweaking it with different accessories, or changing telescopes. In the end you are capturing the sky or the robot?
I would love to see more side by side Pictures/ experiences between this and a similarly priced setup or cheaper setup. Would be even better if it had "hot Swap" parts (sold separately) for different kinds of AP. Like different kind of lens, filters etc you can connect to it, the onboard computer detects the changes parts, Downloads the new firmware/updates for it and bam ready to go. My biggest fear with this would be subscription service to the App for x-amount a year and if you stop paying you loose functionality/updates.
Portablility, Optics, and Mount. Maybe some serious aperture like 203mm or 254mm, but still portable. Also something for research purposes-variable stars, solar system, exoplanets.
Excellent video, as always!! So nice piece of equipment, however you can call me old fashioned, but I'm not big fan of something so automated, if I just set it up outside, then go into an app and see the pictures processed by the robot the satisfaction would be similar to downloading images from internet, it's my personal opinion and wanted to share it with the community.
I really love all your work
I need that Protect the Night shirt! Where did you get that!