Chapter 10: Halloween | Philosopher's Stone
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- Join J and Ben as they dive into Chapter 10 of the Philosopher’s Stone and discuss end of the midnight duel, the Nimbus 2000, wizard’s shocking lack of knowledge on muggle sports, the mechanics of Quidditch, professional Quidditch, Baruffio the Wizard, social life development, Quirrell and the troll, fighting the troll, convoluted points system and the golden trio being formed.
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I love how Jay always uses the Potter Puppet Snape voice
I think that the reason that Charlie is mentioned so often in book one is to make sure you know who he is when they reach out to him about Norbert.
doesn't charlie get mentioned in book 4 about the 1st task dragons?
“Oh no, Hagrid made a poor investment in goblin silver, who can we ask to help?”
@@pirate_bassist yes. And for the Quidditch World Cup.
@@pirate_bassistBoth Bill and Charlie appear in Book 4. All of the Weasley children (Percy too) go to the Quidditch World Cup. To answer your question: YES, Charlie is there when Harry sees the dragons in the Forbidden Forest with Hagrid and Madam Maxine!!
@@redstarr2179they also visit him for the third task, if I remember correctly
oliver wood is scottish and golf is scottish, so it makes sense that he knows what golf is but not basketball.
I came here to write this! Thanks for making the point!
Golf is also a lot older. Basketball is less than 140 years old while golf as we know it has been around for close to 600 years. Plus basketball is a "new world" sport, being invented in the USA.
I never knew any of these sports facts. The more you know lol
Thank you. I was here hollering, "He's Glaswegian!!!"
@@jb888888888 Yeah, basketball is something that exists as a sport you might play growing up in the UK, hence Harry thinking of it. But it's not a sport that exists with regard to teams being widely known or followed, even to this day.
Just a gentle correction that Oliver Wood / Sean Biggerstaff has a *Scottish* accent, not an Irish one! Particularly important to me as a Scot and as Oliver is my favourite character. 😉😅
Also since Golf was invented in Scotland, it is not surprising that he uses golf balls for practice.
He probably finds them all over. Doesn't even have to know what golf actually is.
Don’t blame you if there was a Canadian character I’d be protective of them too
I was just wondering, if Hermione was sorted into Ravenclaw and, as our main men said last episode, the Gryffindors do not (at least on page) share any class with the Ravenclaws, then I don’t see Harry and Ron becoming friends with her for quite some time - if ever. What it would definitely mean, though, is that she would not have been crying in a toilet on Halloween. And even if she had been, the two of them would have no idea. Which means in the very least Harry and Ron would not have encountered the troll.
I would love the Carlins’ take on such a scenario.
I would love a what if on this.❤
Oh man, YES
So loving this. Somehow I made it to my 40’s without any Harry Potter exposure, but once my youngest (adult) daughter wanted to watch it a couple years ago, I’ve been enamored. Fun way to escape the drones of everyday life, but this channel is taking it next level. We grownups appreciate the time & thought you put into this endeavor! Thank you! 🌲
Glad you found it, I recommend lord of the rings if you haven’t seen or read that either
And this is also how as wizard you may not know what basketball or football are
I can’t believe belief we’re 10 weeks into this already!
We're not... We're 8 in. First week had 3 episodes.
The movies, always finding ways to take away from the few shining moments Ron had in the books, is downright criminal.
Quirrell was previously the Muggle Studies professor (according to JK Rowling) before he took a year off for first hand experience (according to Hagrid when Harry first meets him in the Leaky Cauldron).
This is part of the reason Dumbledore is suspicious of Quirrell and tells Snape to keep an eye on him; the fact that Quirrell was already a professor there would mean that he’s completely aware of the curse of the DADA position, yet comes back after missing a year and still covets the position.
We of course know that it was in that year that he found Voldemort in the forest of Albania.
No one is confidently aware about the curse other than Dumbledore.
Why would Quirrel ask to be the dada teacher if he knows the position is cursed?
@@thorthewolf8801 pretty sure Voldy has promiced to lift the curse once Quirrell helps him rise to power. He must have promiced a bunch of stuff to get into his head (pun intended)
I really think that once the brothers are done with each book tgey should do a JvBen on every section they marked as "trivia"
A week passed fairlly quickly, but it's never too early for another episode from these guys
Re: the snitch, I think Dumbledore purposefully kept Harry’s first snitch, and replaced it with a new one, but generally the snitches are re-used game to game. The flesh memory is only necessary at the end of a game to determine who touched it first, but I imagine whatever charm it is would be wiped and re-cast for the next game.
I'm pretty sure in Deathly Hollows they say that even the one that's making the snitch wears gloves so that the first person to ever touch it is the seeker that catches it, implying that a new snitch is used for every game.
@@khaymengraves So what do they do with them all after the games? Six games a year at Hogwarts alone. However many at each other wizarding school in the world, and then all the professional quidditch games. I guess we can assume that pick-up games and such use snitches without flesh memories.
It could be possible, that Hogwarts has a snitch per year. Wasn't Harry's first game the first game of the season? Or if each game has a new snitch, the remaining ones could be used for practice. It's never said if students are playing quiddich outside of the house teams (like the Weasleys play during summer), so there could be a set or two for that available.
@@PhilBagels Good question, I have no idea I'm just pointing out that the books specifically say they're never touched. Rowling has a habit of introducing concepts that make no sense under scrutiny and not in a whimsical "it's magic way".
@@PhilBagelsthey are of course transformed into golf balls for practice of the newbie seekers
What's interesting is that something scary happens on every Halloween in 1234, on the same day Voldemort lost his powers.
But in 567 nothing noteworthy happens on this day and the only thing that changed is that Voldemort has his powers back.
This is more for myself but I’m doing it anyway:
Year 1- Troll! In the dungeons!
Year 2- Ms. Norris petrified
Year 3- Sirius Black slashes the fat ladies portrait
Year 4- I can’t remember?
@@Synthesyn3424 is Harry's name coming out of the goblet, I believe for memory
@@danielallen4450 oh yeah I think you’re right. I’ll actually check quick anyway
Edit: you’re right, that is what happens :)
I mean they literally have a theory about exactly that
@@vignotum132 Oo! Which one is about this theory? I'd love to watch it.
23:36 The reason it's 150 points is because (according to the harry potter fandom) when they were still using live birds in case of magic balls that was how much one was paid in galleons when they brought one in because they were so rare
Thanks 😂
Well that’s an in universe explanation. They could have just made the bird 100 galleons and not 150😂
@@graysonk363 I've never understood the problem with it being 150. You have to score 16 hoops more than the other team to be assured a win. So? An average game of basketball often has way more than that, and this game gives you three rings with only one defender as opposed to the one in basketball with essentially a whole team defending. If you've got a good team, I don't see why that should be such an insane task.
French version of the spell.
Buffalo = Bison
Mink = Vison
Week 3 of asking Carlin brothers to invite Movie Flame as a guest...preferably multiple times
Amazing pod a new sunday tradition
You should also discuss your favorite quote from the chapter
why did Hermione not tell the truth? she was in the bathroom crying and Harry and Ron went to worn her about the troll. then found the troll was already there. would have saved 5 points.
how tall is that bathroom ceiling ? 12 foot troll (already a tall ceiling ) and enough room above that to get the club high enough to knock out the troll when it fell.
I never understood why Hermione lies about being in the bathroom. I mean she didn't have to say outright "I was in here cause Ron made me cry" but she could have just said she was in the bathroom and didn't know about the troll, so Ron and Harry came to look for her to tell her what was happening. Surely, they wouldn't have taken 5 points from her for just using the bathroom.
Yes! I've always been confused by this, and people say it's because they wouldn't have been friends otherwise. But I don't believe that at all. Harry and Ron's willingness to try saving Hermione is a obvious sign of friendship that she would have noticed and appreciated
@joli7948its not mandatory to be at the halloween feast.
@@thorthewolf8801 No, but it is suspicious for a first year not to be. In the second book, it was suspicious even when they were genuinely at Nick's death day party.
Perhaps she was more concerned that the truth would lead her into getting into trouble for missing classes? We've already heard she prioritises expulsion over being killed, after all...
I think it was indeed to actively get herself into trouble so that the boys wouldn't. Honestly, an act of sacrificial love, if you will, since, indeed, for her this is worse than death. At the same time it's to show the boys the respect, gratitude and the self-reflection about rule breaking
As someone who played basketball, there is definitely strategy behind who you put in the middle for the tip-off. You want to have your best jumper in the middle, but sometimes you have to sacrifice that for your tallest player if they are not your best jumper. If the tallest player is also your best jumper, then you use them every time. You also never want to bring the basketball to you. It will go to the person behind you, who is on the opposing team. You want to push it to the person behind the other team's jumper, who is on your team. There is definitely skill and strategy involved in the tip-off of a basketball game.
Golf is a Scottish game. So it's more likely that wizards in England would know about it.
Well that and also hogwarts is in Scotland
Also, mixing Fandom here, but in the Hobbit, isn't golf invented by a hobbit hittong a goblin head into a hold 100 yards away or something? Maybe the Wizarding World has a similar lore...
@@FruitfulMama yeah that’s right
I'm really enjoying this series so far. I save the episode to listen to during the week, so I have something to look forward to after work. Life hasn't been going the best so far, but this has revived the magic of reading the series for the first time for me. Plus, it's great to think about where I might be in 4 years when the series is complete.
I'm sorry things aren't going to great. I'm in the same boat. Let's keep our heads up high.
I always find myself waiting so restlessly for these every week. So have enjoyed all the hp content the last several years from a couple of guys as obsessed with hp as I am ☺️
Did Ben say Oliver Wood had an Irish accent in the movies? Careful, or you might upset the Scotts 😂
Haha at least they didn't say he was English 😅 there would be riots!
I wish they still showed the video. I use this platform because I want to watch along with listen.
That's one of my favourite chapters of all Harry Potter books, just for making the trio complete. That was the main reason why I kept reading Harry Potter as a teenie, I wanted more from these three sibling-like friends, that was far more interesting for me than any magic spell! :D
The house points make sense. Honestly, it would have been even more fitting for McGonagall to not have given them any points. While it’s obviously good that Harry and Ron managed to stop the troll and save Hermione, they shouldn’t have put themselves in that position to begin with. They should have told a staff member about the situation, and then gone to the common room. Giving them a bunch of points for recklessly risking their lives, noble as their intentions were, would just encourage similar behavior from students in the future (which is the point of point systems like this: to encourage and discourage certain patterns of behavior), and someone could end up dead next time
Good point
The movies kinda hinted about McGonagall’s kindness when Harry got his broom.
I feel like Malfoy is trying to be Harry's friend until the end of philosopher stone and just gave up from the rest of this series.
My favourite McGonigal soft spot moment is when he is said to you yeah her office after his fight with Dolores in the fifth book and is expecting to get yelled at by McGonigal after she reads the know that was sent with and she just says have a biscuit Potter that's what drives me crazy about the movie that's even would've been so easy to replicate.
You get a ginger newt!
I started reading the books to my kids (4 and 7) in the summer, and we’re a bit into GOF now. There’ve been a few moments where I got choked up and had a tough time reading - when Neville gets those 10 points and when Sirius flies off on Buckbeak - and it made me TERRIFIED of getting to DH, because no matter how many times I read it, I am a wreck from The Prince’s Tale to the end. I have NO idea how I’m going to read it aloud to them.
How did you get all the way to GOF in just a couple of months? I started reading SS to little siblings last Easter, and we still haven't finished 😂
My brother keeps falling asleep two minutes into The Man With Two Faces 😂
@@lukemiller4208 We read it during the day, not at bedtime (though my kids would never fall asleep during a bedtime story, anyway, they're still bouncing off the walls at bedtime), we have the MinaLima editions of the first three books which really kept their attention and got them excited to read every time (they've had much less interest in the plain text GOF, so it's going slooooooowly), and we're just big readers to begin with so they're used to reading every day.
When we got to The Man With Two Faces, they were so mindblown by the cliffhanger reveal at the end of the previous chapter that they wouldn't have let me close that book for anything, we read straight through to the end at that point!
Honestly I look forward to a new episode so much every week so thank you for giving me something to be excited for 😂❤
im glad the video went out on this one lol. I really wanted to do some cleaning before work saw this decided to sit down and watch instead. now im cleaning and listening :D
im loving this. its like being at a Sunday book club. cant wait for more
not sure if you have thought about it but when you get to chapters that have harry"s family in it maybe see if you dad wants to join those weeks.
Another chapter locked in, and a whole slew of them left. Keep up the good work, gentlemen.
I just found these and am binging this lile crazy with my kids! Thank you for this because we discuss a lot of these things and you do so well using canon to explain so many things! Keep up the good work!
“Did Voldemort ever teach DADA?!“ The closest he ever got to it was in Harry‘s First Year…being a half of Quirrell‘s Head…dictating him what to do…Voldemort might also have told Quirrell what to teach the students.
Which is an odd choice if he indeed cursed the position. "I'll ride on the back of this guy's head, right into my own curse!" No wonder he failed!
@@PhilBagels He was only there to get the Philosopher's Stone, so I imagine he felt an entire year in the castle would have been *more* than adequate.
@@MusicBlik "I'll spend a year under the curse I set up. What could go wrong? Certainly the curse won't stop me from achieving my goal!"
@@PhilBagels "Of course it won't! I'm Voldemort!" He always *was* guilty of hubris. I'm just saying this move smells to me like lack of wisdom, rather than stupidity.
@@MusicBlik Fair enough.
Hey! Oliver Wood's accent in the movie is Scottish. The actor was born in Glasgow. And I have wondered in the past whether Hogwarts residents/ pupils in the movie with Scottish accents (McGonagall, Wood, Cho Chang) lived at/ were sent to Hogwarts as opposed to any other wizarding school because of its convenient Scottish Highlands locality. Which got me thinking... if you go to Hogwarts and live in Scotland, do you still have to travel all the way down to London to then get the Hogwarts Express back up to Scotland again? what if you live actually in the Highlands, like in say Fort William or somewhere a relatively short journey?? It would be pretty maddening double journey...
Maddening for the parents, sure, but I can imagine some kids being disappointed if they **didn't** get to have the train experience with all their friends. I can imagine it being kind of like a rite of passage to some.
As a Canadian with Irish family it is super easy to believe wizards know nothing about basketball. I was in Ireland in the mid 90's and out of 6 sets of aunts and uncles only one of them had any idea about American things because they had sky TV. No Wizard family had a TV let alone satellite. Golf was invented in the country Hogwarts is in, in the 1500's. To wizards basketball was invented two weeks ago.
Very good point honestly, there was probably wizards who played golf
I really appreciate Ben’s careful description of the middle school social dynamic. It’s seems so easy for people to put down middle schoolers, but Ben looked at the context of their development and internal struggle rather than defaulting to a “middle schoolers are mean” position.
Middle schoolers are mean. lol. And entirely self-centered.
You can still acknowledge child development at the same time. Two things or more can be true at once.
@@KaiLucasZacharySome can be mean. That’s why I appreciate the context. It doesn’t lump everyone into one description. :)
@@jenanncreates1033 I mean, that’s kind of what child development as an entire area of study does. Obviously, nothing is ever going to fit all humans entirely. A single middle school student is never exactly the same as another, but we make generalizations.
I personally work as a private tutor, and as much as I respect middle school students, I rarely like most of them. lol
Younger kids are generally more excited and willing; high school kids are usually more professional and understand why they’re in tutoring. The middle school ones are full of hormones and emotions and don’t want to learn math functions when their entire life is falling apart on a daily basis. lol
Thanks for your wonderful work. I have an question about Lily and Snape in the potion class. They both were in same year and probably the same class. Snape was the best in potion subject, half blood prince, but Slaghorn said Lily was the best in the subject and because of that in the club! Based on the fact they were friend and from Snape side more than that, do you think Snape gave his instuction to Lily to give the honor to her? How did she accept that? And based on being in Slithering, Snape should had the ambition and wanted to get power and attention not Lily. Or maybe she was the master and got the instruction, but Snape had watched her all the time and get the notes in his book from her instruction? but Snape now is the best in the potion and can make best potion for Lupin and Dumbledore!! And Lily never was famous for any potion making later years. What is your idea about this mystery?
I think Snape had plenty of ambition, but Snape's ambition was for Lily. I think he would have given her tips and suggestions to help her potion making and slightly sabotaged his own potions to make sure hers were 'better'. Snape was the actual best but elevated Lily and held himself back out of his love for her.
@@lordunderstatement3645 great I thought the same, but wanted to know other's opinions and bring this subject to the view, maybe we get Super Carlin Brother's point of view on that.
Thank you, I needed this right now for motivation to clean.
Assuming you continue to do chapters weekly with no breaks, it will effectively be another 3 years till we get to Deathly Hallows.
Noooooooo😩
Yes, that's why they've mentioned numerous times already in this podcast where they'll be in 4 years....
Has anyone else ever wondered where the teacher go during the summer? We see Snape at Spinner’s End. Does that mean he lives there? Does he go home on the weekends or just the summer? Where do the other teachers live? Quirrell went away and came back with a pet Voldemort. How do you imagine the teachers spend the summer? (We know they stay at school for Christmas and Easter break).
And are all the teachers single with no children and just spend their whole life at Hogwarts?
@@evatescheI would assume married professors would live in Hogsmede. Maybe if their children were old enough to attend Hogwarts, they could live in the castle even during the summer? Just the first things that I thought if
@@CarlosAlexDanger we know Neville is married to Hannah Abbott and teaches Herbology. But I’m pretty sure that she’s the landlady at the Leaky Cauldron. So maybe she lives there? I have no idea. lol.
Pretty sure Slughorn slept in his office because if I remember correctly he was in his pajamas when they go to him about the love potion.
I was thinking this the other day lol what does snape get up to and where do they sleep during school nights
The movie version has a leather kilt and a vest, apparently vest are just a natural part of a trolls outfit. Explains why I love vest so much its the garb of my people.
Trolls and ogres apparently, shrek also wears a vest lmao
Loving this series, look forward to it every week!
An additional thought on if Barry Crouch gets to Dumbledore, because Barty Crouch Jr never got the map, because Harry just used a summoning charm (you know, the charm he just worked super hard to learn, and used to win the first challenge) to get the map back before anyone else even gets there, and so BC Jr never even learns it exists. An interesting what if from a simple change.
I just checked the Danish version, and it said "Remember the wizard Baruffio, who pronounced F as S and woke up with a buffalo on his chest." In this case, he may have tried to summon a bøsse instead of a bøffel, but forgetting the L. That's a gun instead of a buffalo. Or a bidsel, the bit that a horse chews on in the expression "champing at the bit". If the latter, the spell could have been Accio. Which means I've likely solved the Danish version, but I still can't say what the original was supposed to be.
11:21 "not that malfoy has a crush on harry"
"He doesn't not ben"
Lmaooo I couldn't stop laughing at that! Malfoy waa definitely feeling rejected by Harry and wanted to get back at him for it
I listen to you guys all the time! I love how you talk about the artwork for each chapter. I feel illustrators need to be recognized more. I would love to hear your take on a “MVP” of each chapter like they do in Mugglecast! For this chapter I would pick the troll for marking the beginning of the golden trio.
The foot rests on the brooms in the movies is for the actors comfort. Otherwise their feet fall asleep while they film the flying scenes.
I've never heard this or thought about it like that, but it makes sense. V cool
I actually prefer the footrest, makes sense aesthetically and functionally. Not to mention it invokes the image of stirrups on a horse or even foot pegs on a motorbike which gives visual clues you can see a picture of it and instantly know what it’s for instead of just a broom for cleaning.
From one of the "making of..." video's I've gathered that there was more to it than that. It turned out to be rather... painful for (male) actors to have to sit on the brooms for long takes. Not so much because of their feet, but... well, of something much more delicate, if you know what I mean! :D
I shed tears with this chapter.
I do think quidditch needs a minimum and maximum play time, and we can still keep the fact that the game ends with catching the snitch if it happens between the minmum and maximum time
my impression was that, having been distracted by Snape and then by the troll, Harry and Ron forgot which door was the bathroom. It was only after locking the troll inside and hearing Hermione's scream that they realized which room they locked the troll in.
I am so freaking happy that you guys started this podcast! Keep up the amazing work ❤❤❤❤
It would also seem reasonable that, just for practice and training purposes, they might manufacture snitches without the flesh-memory (blanks?) and go to the bother of making them with flesh-memory only for official games.
I love this series and can’t wait to see how some of the later chapters in the series
By the way, when they say that Oliver is a backup in a certain team, the team they are talking about plays in a league and has nothing to do with country, some leagues are based in a country but that doesn’t mean they can’t have players from different nationalities. Think of it as Premier league, it is based in England with English clubs and cities but players from different nationalities make up the teams.
My view on the broom gifting is that Minerva is an elderly lady with no grandchildren of her own to spoil, so Harry in that moment is being treated as a surrogate grandchild since he is the only orphan in her house without anyone capable of getting him such a gift. Neville at least had his grandmother.
Him specifically being Harry Potter also played a role in it I'm sure. It's easier to feel bad for a kid with a tragic backstory and parents that you knew.
Amazing as always! You guys are the best! Can't wait For more! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Amazing discussion as always guys! I always listen first - over the weekend - and then watch the video to see you do the talk through. Clearly, the new video editor is doing a great job…
YES! Love this podcast guys! You're the best 😊😊❤❤❤❤
Snape does tell Dumbledore about the Polyjuice Potion ingredients being stolen because Dumbledore smells Moody's flask and comments "guess we know who's been stealing from you snape" and snape gives harry a look
I wasn’t sure if I would enjoy this show so much, but I’m enjoying this deep dive into each chapter.
My favorite show to watch every week!!!
Not so much a "watch" this time though... ;)
I love this podcast currently re reading the series and I am on chapter 6
My headcanon is now that the qidditch team begins in the field and with theirs broom y the earth and their opening move is important.
Thanks You Carlin brother, for giving me news headcanons ❤
These videos have suddenly become an important part of my week!
I thought Quirrel fully intended the troll to be in the dungeon to occupy the teachers well away from the 3rd floor but it moved on. I look forward to finding out if this is head canon or not.
My assumption was that he intentionally misled the teachers as to where the troll was so that they would spend time searching for the troll, giving him more time to investigate. If the teachers immediately found the troll, they would have dealt with it in seconds and Quirrel wouldn't have had enough time to figure anything out.
@@samkrerowicz4269 Somehow, Dumbledore knows all about what happened under the trap door with the Trio, and that Neville stood up to them. But he has no idea about the location of a troll.
The troll may well have been in the dungeon, and simply wandered off, seeing as how trolls have legs and are capable of walking. A troll actually in the dungeon would have kept the teachers occupied just as easily as the thought that a troll was in the dungeon.
Perhaps the troll, having been brought in by Quirrell himself, attempted to follow him to the third floor. Trolls may not understand the command "Stay!"
@@PhilBagels A troll in the dungeon will occupy the teachers a lot less than knowing that a troll is in the castle, but not knowing where it is. While it is obviously possible for the troll to move, it doesn't make any sense for Quirrel to tell the teachers where the troll actually is. It makes a lot more sense for him to tell them the wrong place so that when they can't find it, they assume the same thing you did and think that it wandered off, thus forcing them to spend a lot of time searching for the troll.
I'm not sure what Dumbledore knowing what happened under the trap door has to do with this conversation, but presumably he knows what happened there because Ron and Hermione told him and he could use legilimancy to confirm they were telling the truth.
I think Charlie got a new wand either because of the unicorn hair peeking out meaning it’s broken to some extent or because he thought he lost it fighting but found it again
I think Wood not knowing about basketball could just be that it's probably way more popular in America than the UK.
Especially back when Harry Potter was set & also wizards don’t have tv, I’d find it less believable that they don’t know what football or golf is.
I've been re listening to the books before you came out with this podcast. I slowed down because of changing jobs, and I don't have much leisure time as I once did. With that being said, I'm currently re listening to the 7th book currently, and I noticed that Ollivander calls Voldemort the Dark Lord after he is rescued by the Golden Trio. I just found it odd that someone on Harry's side would call him that. With the exception of Snape, and that's because he is a known Death Eater. I guess I wanted to point this out now before I forget 😂 I can't say I'll remember this when you get to the last book. Maybe you'll remember this or even write it down some place for a later date. I may go back and re listen to the series again, but I just didn't want to forget it.
So crazy how long ago it was that J and Ben went to London for the opening of the Harry Potter museum. That is one of my favorite vlog episodes that J did and thinking that was six years ago almost is just bananas.
WooT!! **snuggling down to listen** LET'S GO!
The thing that has always bothered me about Hermiones lie about her looking for the troll is, why didn't she just say she was using the bathroom? It hides the fact she was crying because of Ron, and wouldn't have gotten points taken away. That's just always been confusing to me.
I've thought about that too, I think the time frame for her "just using the bathroom" wouldn't line up. If she says she's just using the bathroom, that would also imply that she wasn't at the feast, as she didn't hear about the troll. I'm also assuming though, that the bathroom she is in, is not the closest bathroom to the great hall. So even if she left the great hall before the feast was over, and didn't hear the troll announcement, she still wouldn't have went to that bathroom most likely. So if she said she was just using the bathroom it might lead to more questions like why this bathroom, or if they assumed she didn't go to the feast, why have you been in here so long, I assume the feasts last a while.
Also though, it mightve been a sort of penance towards Harry and Ron. Automatically taking blame by saying she was going after the troll, takes a lot of potential blame off of Harry and Ron, both for making her cry and ultimately going after the troll themselves. Ik they only did it to protect Hermione, but they did still try to face a troll by themselves, and without plot armor probably would've died.
@@calemroberts2941These are definitely fair arguments. Just felt that as it's written it feels like no one had to take the fall. Ultimately I think it was just to show Ron and Harry that she was willing to lie to teachers to protect them. But it could have been a cool way for her to still do that and the three of them get away scott free. A hint of her quick on her feet thinking.
Also, hermione is an 11 year old girl here, surely at least Mcgonagall would have understood if she used a "went to the bathroom" excuse, and Mcgonagall would have shut down any questioning from the other teachers.
I had that same thought revisiting this chapter today. So she doesn't want to be fully transparent about why she was crying in the bathroom but she could have just said she wasn't in the mood for a feast and wanted to be alone so walked around the empty halls and needed the loo. Or say she was upset after an argument with someone, but not mention names. Heck, just say she was homesick, teachers at boarding schools hear that one all the time, particularly from first years halfway thru their first term.
Love this series, but i was disappointed when they didn't bring up harry predicting getting his skull cracked by a bluger. It made me laugh cause it means jk has that one in the camber for a while. Love the discussion they have though, they are awesome.
I swear it feels like yesterday when I watched J's vlog where he cried talking about buying Luke his first HP book. I can't believe he's old enough to read it now 😱
Omg, I can SO attest to read to both of my oldest kids the first book, because I am doing it Right now!!! The oldest is fourteen (I gave him the first book of HP when he was 7) and he already "ate" the first three books and is starting his fourth (and has seen ALL the movies 🙃)... But, because of the movies, I had to persuade him to read the other books, because he thought everything was already told and I said - not even close - so he agreed to read the latter four books ;) And the second oldest is six and has his bedtime story - every friday night a chapter from the first book (along with his younger brother, 4,5 y.o., and his sister, 3.5 y.o) , and he already is so invested in the story! We are reading tomorrow evening "the sorting hat". I am not quite shure that this book would be digestible for my doughter but this is inescapable - they share the same room so they all hear the same storry... I guess I should wait a couple of years before introducing my youngest ones to the second book...
I think Ben should get his daughter one of those fancy editions of the book and post reading to her as a Kids series for CZcams Kids. That would be an awesome way to engage the next generation of YT viewers into the series and channel along with her. You could do a chapter a week and all the voices like your dad did.
Amazing as always 👏👏👏
I think the concept of a subculture within a larger culture, one that knows (or cares) very little about the outside culture, is unfamiliar to you. But having grown up in such a subculture -- or adjacent to one, more accurately -- JKR described it quite well.
Great job! I am so enjoying this and then looking forward to the next chapter up. Was the camera going out a trick or treat kind of a thing, because of the chapter title? Ooh wee ooh! Anyway, I liked that you picked up on Mcgonagall's kindness. As she was rule enforcer and follower, I have always respected her and thought about how she compassionately does what she does for the greatest good. She can be catty at times, but her compassion and kindness always shows through. "Bending the rule" is surely not breaking it. And surely, if Harry was a natural and the first in a century of first years, then there have been others that they bent this rule for. Enjoyed the part when Hermione made into the trio as well, as she realized that Harry and Ron were good people and had loyalty and integrity, even if they had hurt her initially. Thanks for mentioning Ron's wizardry accomplishments, as they made him look ridiculous in the movies. I really disliked that and Ron's character didnt deserve it.
Ha ha, trick or treating camera, so funny😂😂😂
... And thats why I have the theory that Harry have some "magic objects" power! Some type of empathic thing thats make him good making objects do what he wants.
Many psychologists who study bullying will tell you that most bullies *ARE* popular, especially among the school leadership, both nominal and de facto.
That's how they get away with bullying.
Great episode. Thank you!
53:32 I always like to imagine in that scene in the movie where snape does his "People might think you're...up to something"
It totally feels like they made him give that pause and glance, as if to imply he was doing another quick scan
"Almost always something happens on Halloween." Today it was a broken camera :)
I was truly just wondering about that
I feel like people forget the bludger can be aimed at the seeker. Also you can literally play keep the seeker away from the snitch as a strategy. Like worlds Ireland has better chaser so better to get the snitch before they get 150 points
Wouldn’t just exclusively targeting the seeker be the primary objective of the beater? Probably is right? I’m not sure
32:30 "Leviosa" has a V in it which is made exactly the same as an F. The difference is that V is voiced and F is unvoiced. Meaning, you use your vocal cords with a V and not with an F. _e.g.,_ "very" and "fairy" are homophonic except for the first sound.
Ditto B and P, G and K, Z and S, and several other sounds.
When it comes to the Quidditch thing, i think its possible that some positions have much more longevity than others. Like seekers and chasers probably dont typically play for very long but keepers and beaters can play for longer. So like if a team already had a really good keeper, a young kid like Wood would probaby end up on the second team for a while before he'd make the first team. And then teams probably have new seekers every couple years. Its like how NFL teams go through good running backs every 3 or 4 years but can have the same quarterback for 15+ years.
A very Good Podcast 👌🏻👍🏻
I think the matches that lasted three months were probably so evenly matched that the score was tied almost continuously so the seekers never caught the snitch cause they wanted to win and by the time they were ahead in points they couldn’t catch it before they tied up again. So it may be the case that the super long games just had incredible seekers instead of bad ones.
But if they caught the snitch with the scores tied, their team would win by 150 points.
If one team was behind by more than 150 points, it would make sense for their seeker to deliberately delay catching the snitch but it still doesn't excuse the leading team's seeker for not catching it.
@@UMirxa12 yeah, i guess what i meant to say was one team was more than 150 behind so the seeker didn’t try to catch the snitch and once they were closer than 150 maybe the seeker just couldn’t catch it before they were down again, if the game went on for weeks or months the score would probably be in the thousands So if both seekers kept running into that problem maybe that’s why they lasted so long. It would just be a case of bad luck causing that scenario to keep happening.
These chapter reviews are so enjoyable. thank you for doing them. Interesting, funny, insightful. Do wish you'd polish your speaking; specifically, the overuse of filler words, e.g. like, you know, um, etc.
Dumbledore told young Tom Riddle when he first visited him at the orphanage that the school had funds set aside for needy or indigent students. He left a sack of money for Tom to buy his school supplies. I had always assumed that this fund paid for Harry's first broom.
Interesting thing I just thought of, for Quirrell's reaction to the Troll being defeated, is it acting, or could it be Voldemort silently punishing him at that exact moment? Like Voldemort sees that the Troll plan failed and is reacting to it at the moment and "lashing out" at Quirrell?
Also, don't know if this one has been used anywhere, but maybe you guys could call this channel as a "Potter-cast" instead of "podcast." lol
23:40 Actually Quidditch makes sense when you consider the main score for each team - Snitch is always caught in the game, so the secondary part of the game with chasers and keepers is the main thing that decides who wins the cup.
Imagine Slytherin and Griffindor winning all the matches in the competition - if Griffindor wins against Slytherin - they will be only 150 points ahead in the final score, if we only had Snitch catching. It makes the game more fair - where Slytherin can still win, because they for example got 80 Points more during their matches against other houses.
It's actually much more visible in later years, where with Harry catching Snitch almost immediately is actually detrimental for the final result.
It's the case of "you can win the battle, but you won't win the war". But also in most matches - there is enough time for both teams to score specific amounts of points. Like Krum lost after catching the Snitch, that's good example that it is much more balanced than it feels.
I really liked the what if at the end!
A good quiz question would be which HP books have the book/movie subtitle as a chapter name, I mean it's a bit off I think but I think it counts. Fyi I think a majority of them do
I love this podcast! I am not usually a podcast listener but I love Harry Potter and really enjoy watching your Harry Potter theory video’s! I listen to the Harry Potter audiobooks but this podcast is showing me things I never caught before and giving me other perspectives on the books.
I just saw a theory recently that Hedwig could be a Maledictus because she shows more human traits than normal owls would, such as knowing to keep quiet when Ron and the Twins rescue Harry in tCoS, and being irritated with Harry or reacting to him with human like facial expressions. What do you guys think of this theory? It would be really cool to hear your thoughts and maybe a video of the theory!
Thanks so much for your podcast, I look forward to the next episode every week!
I swear this was the longest week between episodes I've ever waited
Draco is very similar to Hermione in the same way the brothers say he is to James. He thinks the biggest trouble he can get Harry in is breaking curfew. Draco wouldn't be caught dead out after curfew. Aside from the broom incident earlier and catching the boys at Hagrid's he doesn't really break the rules. We learn later on that he also gets very good grades and is extremely capable in many magical feats
Also, he totally deserved a much better redemption arc. It coulda gone crazy, but it didn't. And I haven't read the books in a long time, but I'm not sure he was willingly a Death Eater? Lucius was already waaaaay on Voldemort's bad side. In order to punish him, he was forcing the worst on Draco and the near impossible task of killing Dumbledore. There's no way Voldemort didn't know Draco didn't have it in him to kill him. That gives ol Voldy the opportunity to torture the entire family for the whole school year before killing Draco at the end when he inevitably fails.
Also also, I was maybe like 4 when the first movie came out at the oldest??? Totally had a baby crush on Oliver 😂
Thanks for acknowledging my suggestions! Also it now makes a lot more sense, why they always caught the snitch so quickly, if the national Quidditch team is mostly people who played Quidditch at Hogwarts
In Chamber of Secrets, no one talks about how the 92 Dream Team was just dominating the world at the Olympics lol