Nordics/Aesir - Failed Cards, Archetypes, and Sometimes Mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh

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    In Norse mythology, Thor, Loki, and Odin are the most famous and powerful trio. Known for their legendary stories and moments, they’ve always been depicted in media as a force to be reckoned with. Leave it to Konami to make this not the case. Introduced in the 5D anime and given a hype set properly named Storm of Ragnarok, the Nordic/Aesir archetype was expected to overtake the TCG and compete with the best in the format. From weak effects to Head-scratching conditions to support not meshing well, we’ll be talking about all the reasons why the Nordics had a Viking's death in the TCG.
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Komentáře • 350

  • @TrevorAllenMD
    @TrevorAllenMD Před 2 měsíci +708

    Truly a brave video to create. Not because of being scared to insult the Nordic community, but to dare and pronounce their names.

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 Před 2 měsíci

      Naw
      They deserve to be shat on lkike every other garbage 5Ds archetype and deck

    • @donovanlocust1106
      @donovanlocust1106 Před 2 měsíci +41

      His pronunciation is actually kinda decent lol

    • @selectivepontification8766
      @selectivepontification8766 Před 2 měsíci +65

      Bold of you to assume there's a Nordic community to begin with

    • @Diamondr11Blue
      @Diamondr11Blue Před 2 měsíci +7

      Ik going to flnd TheDuelLogs for doing this

    • @jetsrule07748
      @jetsrule07748 Před 2 měsíci +16

      Yeah but then he said "Oh-tah-wah"

  • @thesavingmenslivesnetwork
    @thesavingmenslivesnetwork Před 2 měsíci +222

    Making Thor a "Beast-Warrior Type" Monster in a game that QUITE LITERALLY has "Thunder" as a Monster Type is one of (if not THE) biggest missed opportunities/screw-ups in Konami's history... 🤦

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Před 2 měsíci +34

      And it wasn't even like monsters that were humanoid in shape didn't exist in the Thunder Type by that point.

    • @capricous7196
      @capricous7196 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Me when when the God that doesn't control lightning on its own (at least what i know about him) is not a thunder card

    • @cerberos1
      @cerberos1 Před 2 měsíci +13

      ​@@capricous7196 Thor control the weather so indirectly yeah he does control lightning there's even lightning on his card art
      We have cards who have the thunder type on a metaphorical sense like united resistance they could've definitely given it to Thor

    • @Sanguivore
      @Sanguivore Před 2 měsíci +12

      And Thor literally means “Thunder,” LOL.

    • @vaulthunterfromterra4053
      @vaulthunterfromterra4053 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Truly a F*ck up to rival the GamFreak Dev that swapped Gyarados & Dragonite

  • @Nefaliss
    @Nefaliss Před 2 měsíci +222

    The Nordic / Polar God cards were cool in the anime.
    ...but just like every "God" card, it gets massively nerfed when coming over to the TCG/OCG

    • @duongallen4094
      @duongallen4094 Před 2 měsíci +16

      To be fair: since 5D’s came out at the time when the card game has solid rulings, card are designed to be much closer to what the actual card game is. So the big boss monsters are all the same from the anime except their attributes and type (Divine are Egyptian Gods exclusives), what made the big boss fail was their specific tuners. Towers, literally, weren’t a thing until 2014

    • @brotherhood7596
      @brotherhood7596 Před 2 měsíci +4

      How many anime/manga cards are NOT nerfed in thr real world?

    • @Crystal323100
      @Crystal323100 Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@brotherhood7596 A lot, considering some were buffed to ridiculous levels and then had 0 meta relevance. Others are just 1:1s from the anime/manga.

    • @brotherhood7596
      @brotherhood7596 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Crystal323100 Any particular examples?

    • @billybobjoe1335
      @billybobjoe1335 Před 2 měsíci +6

      No. iC1000 was pretty close to its anime version.

  • @neroneroren6788
    @neroneroren6788 Před 2 měsíci +122

    You forgot to mention the biggest slap to the Nordics is that they released Generaider which is also norse mythologic but in a consistent archetype.

    • @Trekkie46
      @Trekkie46 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Such amazing legacy support that can't overcome the crap it started out with. Would be nice if the Aesir monsters got an Orcustrated Babel. Make their effects into quick effects.

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Trekkie46
      Assault Modes?

    • @dearickangelonej.legaspi6686
      @dearickangelonej.legaspi6686 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​​@@Bezaliel13assault mode(or atleast the legacy support) is fine, its just that there are better choices for the exact job that they do in the form of PUNK who in their own has access to 6 above cards in easy ways with less bricks since unlike Assault mode all the cards combo into each other rather than needing specific starters and cards to not be drawn

    • @DecadeMinato
      @DecadeMinato Před 2 měsíci +1

      And Runick Archtype which you, the plaayer technically Odin so it is Nordic but good

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 Před 2 měsíci

      @@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686
      I feel like I am supposed to elaborate Assault Modes were to address the Aesir part specifically... that was all.

  • @sentairider42
    @sentairider42 Před 2 měsíci +84

    So fun fact... I actually built a nordic deck after a friend of mine who was done with yugioh gave me the decently sized stack of cards he owned (like, maybe 2 or 3 decks worth)... and it included a Ghost-Rare Odin.

  • @Ragnellrok
    @Ragnellrok Před 2 měsíci +80

    Nordic Valkyrie not being a Valkyrie but the Winged Dragon of Ra Spell card, Blaze Cannon being considered a Blaze Accelerator card will never make sense to me

    • @KeitaroHirochi
      @KeitaroHirochi Před 2 měsíci +19

      That's decently easy to explain. Archetypes depend on the japanese names. Valkyrie isn't a Valkyrie card because the Valkyrie cards are Siegfried's Valkyries, and are pronounced in German (Valkyure), but Valkyrie is pronounced Valkyuria.
      Meanwhile, Blaze Accelerator is just called Blaze Cannon in Japanese. Blaze Cannon is called God Blaze Cannon is obviously a Blaze Cannon card.

    • @dungeonpastor
      @dungeonpastor Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@KeitaroHirochiThen don't give it a crappy English name? 😅

    • @NovaSaber
      @NovaSaber Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@KeitaroHirochi So...why not make the Nordic one "Valkyria" or "Valkyuria" instead of "Valkyrie" in English?
      I mean, I guess because it was named before the Valkyrie archetype was printed in the TCG, but still, it could have been avoided.

    • @lincolnaszhal5527
      @lincolnaszhal5527 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Like duel log’s previous video (from a month ago), Red moon baby becoming Vampire baby was not necessary, but because the original Japanese card in the first set it came out of (and still is) is named Vampire Baby. But, who would’ve known that these “old” cards randomly getting inserted into an archetype 😂

    • @geniusgamerr4517
      @geniusgamerr4517 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@dungeonpastorexactly

  • @JackDblade
    @JackDblade Před 2 měsíci +23

    One of the coolest archetypes because its Norse mythology but maaan the artwork for them do no justice. The valkeries look more like tiny fairies and both Thor and Loki are super underwhelming in appearance.

  • @billybobjoe1335
    @billybobjoe1335 Před 2 měsíci +34

    Nordics prove the old adage of “you can print broken card effects as long as they are attached to bad archetypes.”

  • @FOXZILLA5734
    @FOXZILLA5734 Před 2 měsíci +72

    The Asier are far more awesome in the anime then thier real life counterparts, especially since they were divine beasts there and have more synergy with each other.

    • @mystery8820
      @mystery8820 Před 2 měsíci +6

      On the same tier, and power as the Egyptian God Cards and Sacred Beasts.

    • @FOXZILLA5734
      @FOXZILLA5734 Před 2 měsíci +6

      ​​​@@mystery8820a big part in the anime is thier summoning conditions are not specific with 1 tuner and 2 or more non tuners which gives them a lot more synergy.

    • @ggez5890
      @ggez5890 Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​@@FOXZILLA5734 Also that in the anime their graveyard effects didn't care about banishing their specific monsters, the effects would just happen for free.

    • @FOXZILLA5734
      @FOXZILLA5734 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah it is far more automatic rather than just banish a specific card for them to revive.

    • @baxterbruce9827
      @baxterbruce9827 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Also, they were DIVINE in the anime but not when they came to the real game, this doesn't change much but it set a precedent for basically no future cards (Except the extra Ras) getting the DIVINE Attribute and left them vulnerable to the occasional targetted anti-support of their new, more mundane attributes

  • @crigonalgaming1258
    @crigonalgaming1258 Před 2 měsíci +80

    The Aesirs need a retrain. When Baronne de Fleur is a better level 10 than all the Aesirs, you have a problem.

    • @bers6014
      @bers6014 Před 2 měsíci +30

      To be fair, baronne is a better level 10 synchro than most level 10 synchros. But they definitely need a retrain

    • @13thKingMu
      @13thKingMu Před 2 měsíci +6

      Nah Baronne is too much considered she release 3 years ago. A better comparision is Leo, the Keeper of the Sacred Tree

    • @starjadiancloneinvestigato1772
      @starjadiancloneinvestigato1772 Před 2 měsíci +12

      that is more of a baronne problem

    • @DarknessDpa
      @DarknessDpa Před 2 měsíci +10

      When the generic Scyncho 10 is better than 3 gods who need specific tuner's to make

    • @arielcevallos8188
      @arielcevallos8188 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I'm sure it is more fair to say that Baronne is a easy-to-summon Synchro monsters with busted effects, if she requires 3+ monsters, then the comparison would be fair to the Nordics synchro monsters.

  • @winterFox2r
    @winterFox2r Před 2 měsíci +187

    Oh yeah… the archetype that has important cards that somehow _don’t_ effect their Aesir. *Slow Claps*

    • @baxterbruce9827
      @baxterbruce9827 Před 2 měsíci +30

      Don't forget a field spell that blows up their entire field if you pop it

    • @chazzitz-wh4ly
      @chazzitz-wh4ly Před 2 měsíci +3

      Konami must have been high when dropping the first wave of cards.

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Před 2 měsíci +22

    5:35 Idea to retrain each Nordic Lord:
    _Thor, Might of the Aseir_ (EARTH)
    Level 10
    Beast-Warrior/Synchro/Effect
    1 “Nordic” Tuner + 2+ Non-Tuner monsters.
    _This card’s synchro summon cannot be negated or responded to if you use a “Nordic Beast” card as any of its synchro materials. Face-up “Nordic” and “Aseir” Monsters you control cannot be destroyed or banished by the effects of your opponent’s monsters. If a Monster you control Destroys an opponent’s monster by battle, it can attack again in a row. Once per turn, you can tribute 3 other cards from your hand and/or field: Add to your hand, Normal Summon/Set OR Special Summon (Face-up or Facedown) 1 monster from your hand, deck or GY. During the End Phase, if this face-up card you controlled was banished or sent to your GY by your opponent's card this turn: You can banish 1 "Nordic Beast" card from your GY; Special Summon this card._
    ATK/4000 DEF/4000
    _Odin, Mind of the Aseir_ (LIGHT)
    Level 10
    Fairy/Synchro/Effect
    1 “Nordic” Tuner + 2+ Non-Tuner monsters.
    _This card’s synchro summon cannot be negated or responded to if you use a “Nordic Ascendant” card as any of its synchro materials. Face-up “Nordic” and “Aseir” Monsters you control cannot be destroyed or banished by the your opponent’s Spell cards or effects. If you activate and resolve the effect(s) of a Spell Card(s), You can shuffle 1 card from your GY or Banishment into your deck. Once per turn, you can tribute 3 other cards from your hand and/or field: Activate, add to your hand OR set 1 Spell from your hand, deck or GY. During the End Phase, if this face-up card you controlled was banished or sent to your GY by your opponent's card this turn: You can banish 1 "Nordic Ascendant" card from your GY; Special Summon this card._
    ATK/4000 DEF/4000
    _Loki, Mischief of the Aseir_ (DARK)
    Level 10
    Spellcaster/Synchro/Effect
    1 “Nordic” Tuner + 2+ Non-Tuner monsters.
    _This card’s synchro summon cannot be negated or responded to if you use a “Nordic Alfar” card as any of its synchro materials. Face-up “Nordic” and “Aseir” Monsters you control cannot be destroyed or banished by the your opponent’s Trap cards or effects. If you activate and resolve the effect(s) of a Trap Card(s), You can Draw 1 card. Once per turn, you can tribute 3 other cards from your hand and/or field: Activate, add to your hand OR set 1 Trap from your hand, deck or GY. During the End Phase, if this face-up card you controlled was banished or sent to your GY by your opponent's card this turn: You can banish 1 "Nordic Alfar" card from your GY; Special Summon this card._
    ATK/4000 DEF/4000

  • @katzuma7641
    @katzuma7641 Před 2 měsíci +43

    Pls do amazoness failed cards Mr. Logs 🥺🥺🥺

    • @lordofcrows
      @lordofcrows Před 2 měsíci +8

      You want Amazoness support?

    • @brunop.8745
      @brunop.8745 Před 2 měsíci +15

      @@lordofcrows you know it, baby

    • @katzuma7641
      @katzuma7641 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@lordofcrows yes I do, maybe something that lets the interact with the opponent in any way on their main phase

    • @ReaperSaga-3713
      @ReaperSaga-3713 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes

    • @royalcamel8167
      @royalcamel8167 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yes, I need the Duel Lag to tell me how busted Amazoness Archer is for being exactly Cannon Soldier.

  • @ariavachier-lagravech.6910
    @ariavachier-lagravech.6910 Před 2 měsíci +32

    Alhamdulillah
    I have always been dreaming for Nordic support
    Thanks Mr. Logs

    • @zexal5499
      @zexal5499 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Jazaquallah for making me laugh this hard 😂

  • @markmorales7958
    @markmorales7958 Před 2 měsíci +13

    More evidence that shows us that basing an archetype specifically designed for bad anime only plot devices (especially those that are only effective DURING THE BATTLE PHASE) are destined to fail faster than hearing the anime side characters voicing out worthless expositions of what the cards do to pad out the episode(s) run…

  • @StardustSynchron
    @StardustSynchron Před 2 měsíci +7

    So upset the cards weren’t Divine. I thought these were cool but disappointed at the time. It is nice there has been some steady support these past few years

  • @kostisbeckiaridisstratilak8578
    @kostisbeckiaridisstratilak8578 Před 2 měsíci +26

    Let's goo we getting Nordic support

  • @mitchellslaughter2963
    @mitchellslaughter2963 Před 2 měsíci +4

    You forgot about the Trap Card Nordic Reliv Mengingjard, which is basically a Limiter Removal for Nordic/Aesir

  • @Urbanboy732
    @Urbanboy732 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Yall sleepin on this deck.

    • @aceclover758
      @aceclover758 Před 2 měsíci

      Sorry it’s just a terrible deck

  • @axelnoragon7382
    @axelnoragon7382 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Duellogs: Nordic
    Brain: elder entity norden

    • @DestroyedArkana
      @DestroyedArkana Před 2 měsíci +1

      Not far off considering the real god Nodens sounds close to Woden. Also that's where we get the name wednesday from (Woden's day)

  • @puppetmon9687
    @puppetmon9687 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Nordic needs more protection for Gullveig, lower level synchros and retrained versions of the Aesir monsters

    • @stevenceja4706
      @stevenceja4706 Před 2 měsíci +1

      a more appropriate effect for Odin would have been to just have straight up immunity to targeted effects and to be able to revive any Nordic monster once per turn but negate its effects since in Norse Mythology, Valhalla was Odin's personal army for Ragnarok

    • @NordicMetal93
      @NordicMetal93 Před 2 měsíci

      @@stevenceja4706 Valhalla field spell plz

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Given that this archetype already has a busted Link-1 and busted, searchable, Trap card and they're still ass, they'd have to give them totally new Synchros that completely ignore the old ones to make Aesir, slightly, less garbage.
    Still shocked he hasn't done Ally of Justice in one of these, yet.

  • @joeyjjmoore
    @joeyjjmoore Před 2 měsíci +3

    I actually run Laevetian and Golden Apples. One of my funniest Yu-Gi-Oh memories is using Golden Apples to copy and a 7300 atk Tragoedia, getting rid of said Tragoedia, just to lose the token to a Hammer shot 😅.

  • @Blahblahblah28504
    @Blahblahblah28504 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I can only imagine how many times he's twisted his tongue pronouncing those names.

  • @S3rp3rior
    @S3rp3rior Před 2 měsíci +4

    Have we had a "Smallest but strongest" archetype video?

  • @mn-0510
    @mn-0510 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Well nordic is an ok pick for a synchro deck in tengu plant format that doesnt use tengu. And they made some top. So I call them a success with how little support they have

  • @theallseeingpotato
    @theallseeingpotato Před 2 měsíci +1

    If I remember correctly, there was a nordic beast hybrid deck that topped a YCS in 2011, I cant remember how, but I swear it did, I remember.
    Edit: Just looked it up, Nordic Beast/Tengu synchro YCS Toronto top 32 October 4, 2011. It was true they had a top! Also famously the YCS where Billy Brake basically intruduced Maxx C to competitive Yugioh in his victory.

  • @SilverKeyed
    @SilverKeyed Před 2 měsíci +2

    It was funny when Ottawa was mispronounced.

  • @neo84401
    @neo84401 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I like the beast side, plus the goat mates in duel links are great.

  • @red-eyessolares1817
    @red-eyessolares1817 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Here’s the thing about Nordics back in 2011, it actually was at least a decent rogue pick during Tengu Plant format with it getting top 32 finish at YCS Toronto.
    The main strategy revolved around using Tanngnjostr’s effect which the Trap Rota Gleipnir works with since you activate this when your opponent declares an attack that would destroy your monster by battle.
    Tanngnjostr was also target off of Super Nimble Mega Hamster so its effect giving you access to either Synchro 7s or Rank 3s was able to happen more consistently than people thought.
    The version that topped in YCS Toronto paired the Nordics with Tengu since it’s great Synchro material, and Tour Guide since that also help to search for your Tanngnjostr.
    I think with the limited information at the time, and the perception that the Nordic cards were filler, the deck was not given more of a chance back in 2011. Especially with how modern Tengu has been making new innovations, Nordics could definitely be given more attention if more players gave it a chance.

    • @mrhalfsaid1389
      @mrhalfsaid1389 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Nordic is a good deck in the making, but Konami doesn't want to make an interesting deck out of them (and if they do decide to do that it'll likely be a damn otk for the 50 thousandth time)

  • @Krokodilius
    @Krokodilius Před 2 měsíci +3

    it's weird how often konami comes up with "god cards" and they turn out useless and way underpowered compared to everything else they release. nordic dudes could've easily had 1 super effect each like naturia synchros.

  • @smashertron
    @smashertron Před 2 měsíci +4

    The did the Nordic archetype so dirty

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 Před 2 měsíci +1

      It's bad in the anime.
      Its especially worse in the real game. Trish and Brionac alone curp stomp every anime duel in 5Ds.
      We can't have that because the anime only wants to defeat monsters by battle or extremely circumstancial means

    • @RyuuMurasaki
      @RyuuMurasaki Před 2 měsíci +1

      Honestly, at this Point, if somebody wants to play Nordic Monsters, just play Generaider, pretty much the same but better in pretty much everything other then having huge Attack.

  • @moon_soap
    @moon_soap Před 2 měsíci

    Hey heres a new video idea:
    ‘Top 10 Monsters that tribute themselves’
    Orrrr
    ‘Top 10 kuriboh monsters’

  • @MrRasengan
    @MrRasengan Před 2 měsíci +1

    Definitely hit the nail on the coffin with this one.

  • @cthulhuscat442
    @cthulhuscat442 Před 2 měsíci

    That ad placement was hilarious to me for some reason 🤣

  • @Harucardiel
    @Harucardiel Před 2 měsíci +1

    I remember when this set first came out, i was mainly after legendary sam stuff so i showed up for the release thing but i was "lucky" to pull golden apple and people were offering almost $80 to 90 bucks for it, every one kept talking about how this set was gonna be crazy good and then like a week or two later, nothing.........good times😌😌

  • @brandonmarquez7336
    @brandonmarquez7336 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Love it 😍!!!
    Please do my cloudians next 😆

  • @NordicMetal93
    @NordicMetal93 Před 2 měsíci

    I like the nod to the source material with having mini Kaijus in Fenrir and Jörmungandr, and gave me the idea of a "road to Ragnarök" kind of gameplan for an alternate version of this archetype. Basically, you build up your board with Thor, Odin, etc, and your opponent's board with Kaiju-like cards for Loki, Fenrir, and Jörmungandr. Then you activate a card(s) representing Heimdell blowing the Gjallarhorn which would activate an alternative win condition for you if any of the fated battles occur like Odin vs. Fenrir, Thor vs. Jörmungandr, and Heimdall vs. Loki. Maybe your plan goes south and you need to reset? Out comes Surtur to nuke the board with Baldr getting revived from the graveyard to restart the cycle. Throw in cards for Hel, Yggdrasill, Valhalla, maybe field spells for the nine realms, and of course Ratatoskr too. Nordic mythology is too rich to be limited to being a mediocre at best Synchro deck. It makes me wish that Konami would make a modern/good deck for the Olympians too.

  • @blazingblackness4442
    @blazingblackness4442 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thor, the God of Thunder, who's name means "thunder"...isn't a Thunder-type. I know they wanted to make him more connected with the Nordic Beasts by making him Beast adjacent, that being Beast-Warrior...but come one dude...

  • @Raziel_HHL
    @Raziel_HHL Před 2 měsíci +1

    if this archtype ever gets decent legacy support with better Aesirs and some more maindeck stuff with synergy it could legitimately be good, given how insane cards like Gulveigg are
    shame that will never happen

  • @findtheblue
    @findtheblue Před 2 měsíci

    I'm dying at "A Nordic deck got top 8! With Adventure. And Magician's Souls." yeah I wonder what the wincon in that deck was lmao

  • @ferchubenitez1995
    @ferchubenitez1995 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Finally! Been waiting for this one forever lol. Man, Konami really screwed up this one. It had the potential to be great but ended up as a dumpsterfire instead.

  • @YGOstratPlayer
    @YGOstratPlayer Před 2 měsíci +1

    The nordic deck needs like a couple more main deck monsters and complete retrains of the Aesir. Maybe just some other gods but I doubt they'd ever make other gods that like 5 people know the existence of yet the three everyone actually knows from pop culture remain unplayable. Loki should get a retrain that negates spell/traps in any phase and during either players turn + some other effect. Thor I envision as having an ultimate conductor tyranno-esque effect to be a board breaker, just kinda makes sense with the flavour at least to me + would make sense with retrains of the "summon myself for the opponent" gimmick with fenrir and jormungandr. And Odin should be either another negate or some other equally powerful but generic stuff. The two pieces of dog and snake shit fenrir and jormungandr should be like one is a bootleg kaiju, the other a double search or something but they lock you into nordic/Aesir summons.

  • @alicepbg2042
    @alicepbg2042 Před 2 měsíci +2

    the archetype I WISH was good...

  • @brandoncastellano1858
    @brandoncastellano1858 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Video idea for the failures.
    Heraldic beast. A deck dedicated to swarming and summing rank 4s easily, and negating and using the power of XYZs for themselves. In an era where everyone played XYZs. Why did they fail?

  • @layachaz7318
    @layachaz7318 Před 2 měsíci

    That ad section was fire

  • @mrbondtux4987
    @mrbondtux4987 Před 2 měsíci

    The funny thing is, Konami also created a deck based on Nordic myth but in different style and also more competitive.

  • @Kev.in1997
    @Kev.in1997 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Its crazy how you can pronounce these nordic names so easily but cant count to three in german :D

  • @williamdrum9899
    @williamdrum9899 Před 2 měsíci

    Deadass thought Odin had little stickman arms but those were pointy shoulder decorations on his cape 😂😂😂😂

  • @codyfranczak4493
    @codyfranczak4493 Před 2 měsíci +3

    It's sad seeing something with a massive 4k attack be useless.

    • @Diamondr11Blue
      @Diamondr11Blue Před 2 měsíci +2

      I'd sooner by more cautious of a zero atk monster than a 4k😂

    • @miraigaming3109
      @miraigaming3109 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I'm scared of a 0 attack on high level monster than 4k attack rn, I miss era where beatstick matters😢

    • @RyuuMurasaki
      @RyuuMurasaki Před 2 měsíci

      @@miraigaming3109 I mean 0 Attack Monsters atm are actually just better if you look at Yubel (which is funny enough even older)

    • @Diamondr11Blue
      @Diamondr11Blue Před 2 měsíci

      @@miraigaming3109 nah beatstixks are boring

  • @Monty2289
    @Monty2289 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I want to say this archetype is a simple fix but I dunno. I guess the simpliest fix is to retrain the Aesir monsters. All of the overcorrection still summons garbage monster. Even give them the condition of "This card can be summoned with any Nordic tuner but the other materials must be Nordic or Aesir monsters"

    • @Eis_Cold
      @Eis_Cold Před 2 měsíci

      I think Odin and Thor would be fine if they just had "quick effect" tied to their main effect (loki is screwed on that tho) so if they just added a card that made them quick effects kinda like Orcust and their field spell "Orcustrated Babel" I think they would be fine, not strong but decent.
      Maybe a monster that can be summoned of the link 1's effect and that searches a field spell that makes them quick effects while giving some form of protection.

  • @moarsma347
    @moarsma347 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Unrelated question:
    What was the first deck that abused special summoning ?(in other words the deck that turned the game into solitaire)

  • @MrRedbull901
    @MrRedbull901 Před 2 měsíci +1

    He should also add a segment on how to make the archetype better

  • @AshikSorel1
    @AshikSorel1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Do Witchcrafters next.

  • @Black_Revue
    @Black_Revue Před 2 měsíci +2

    Well there's always Genraids, the better Nordic Deck

  • @Mr.Qwayzar
    @Mr.Qwayzar Před 2 měsíci +2

    Gow's release was prime time to print busted Nordic support and retrains . Such a missed opportunity . Side note, the fact that the Chair spell could've been a 1 card combo but the L-1 isn't a Aseir . So you just lock yourself out for nothing

  • @SuperSilver316
    @SuperSilver316 Před 2 měsíci

    I can smell the support coming

  • @sufferingscribe
    @sufferingscribe Před 2 měsíci

    Hope you cover Ancient Gears soon. They have one plan, beat-down, but they have some good support to let them do that. Biggest problems they have are lacking an good option for going first , their signature spell&trap battle negate not really mattering in the modern game, and not being able to interact with the opponents board outside of the niche backrow destruction after battle of Engineer and Reactor Dragon

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I feel like if any archetype should have an instant win condition, it should be gods.

  • @arifprasetyo9279
    @arifprasetyo9279 Před 2 měsíci +1

    🤔 interesting deck actually, but could used something to cover the weakness especially Try to protect the Link, 🤔 and to be honest i don't know how to activate the Traps on first turn

  • @Noremak_Notrap
    @Noremak_Notrap Před 2 měsíci

    idk about everyone else but i had fun playng the nord and aesir. thor shutsdown alot of dumb effects monsters have, odin being able to swing thru anything and loki stopping their traps in place. if you build a good deck around them you can otk. i did it yesterday, video is on my page.

  • @invencible373875559
    @invencible373875559 Před 2 měsíci

    kudos to taht guy go top 8 in canada with nordic, a living legend

  • @UnpopularOpinions96
    @UnpopularOpinions96 Před 2 měsíci

    Love using these videos to pick my next deck

  • @Petsinwinter2
    @Petsinwinter2 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Oh I am not looking forward to Logs trying to pronounce all these names

  • @1Pidds
    @1Pidds Před měsícem

    This series is like the polite version of Legacy of the Worthless

  • @GuardianGrarl
    @GuardianGrarl Před 2 měsíci

    Would pay good money for Nordic support in the form of Buri, Progenitor of the Aesir.

  • @lordpapyrus4668
    @lordpapyrus4668 Před 2 měsíci

    They just need to launch an entire retrain of their boss monsters, then slip in a few new supports that actually synchronize with them. But this is Konami we're talking about, so thats about as likely as a meteor made of gold landing on my left foot tomorrow.

  • @neilbryanbucsit197
    @neilbryanbucsit197 Před 2 měsíci

    The synchros need a retrain and they need an solemn judgment esque card

  • @artemistcg
    @artemistcg Před 2 měsíci

    Would love to see a video on Watts or Amazements, two disappointing archetypes I worked hard to make work when I was younger.

  • @etsaorned
    @etsaorned Před 2 měsíci

    My suggestion came through! Thanks for the video

  • @olyviermonteau4300
    @olyviermonteau4300 Před 2 měsíci +1

    nice god of war reference.

  • @TheReaperofHades
    @TheReaperofHades Před 2 měsíci

    The Sword Trap was basically my anti-Shooting Star card xD

  • @elin111
    @elin111 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Imagine if a superheavy happens and they print Nordics that aren't complete ass and the Nordic Link has to be banned.

    • @brotherhood7596
      @brotherhood7596 Před 2 měsíci +1

      That would be interesting

    • @MrKiwitox
      @MrKiwitox Před 2 měsíci +1

      They would need to retrain the Aesirs tho

  • @Off-with-a-bang
    @Off-with-a-bang Před 2 měsíci

    I got an ad from Disney+ with one scene from the Marvel movie "Thor love and thunder" the moment I finished watching this video. Coincidence? 😂

  • @inconspicuousboar3177
    @inconspicuousboar3177 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I really wish they would remake some of these archetypes for the modern era. Half of the meta archetypes have lame card art / themes and the other half cost 1K to build. Just remembered that generaider exists but all the more shows it needs help as an archetype.

  • @jonahjoestar3022
    @jonahjoestar3022 Před 2 měsíci

    Beautiful ad insert

  • @darearteaga
    @darearteaga Před 2 měsíci

    NORDIC SUPPORT IS COMING LETS GOOOOO

  • @GetShwiftyInHere
    @GetShwiftyInHere Před 2 měsíci

    As a teen coming off the Sacred Beast and Egyptian Gods, these cards were my babies XD to hear how useless they really were kinda hurts but I understand

  • @whitegiant
    @whitegiant Před 2 měsíci +2

    There is no way this man can half pronounce these Nordic names but cannot pronounce "Ottawa"

  • @TaLeng2023
    @TaLeng2023 Před 2 měsíci

    The only time I've ever used a Nordic was Thor in Lunalights before they got all their support.

  • @dreadgear9683
    @dreadgear9683 Před 2 měsíci

    Oh damn Nordic support will drop soon

  • @ShanesSlothMunchies
    @ShanesSlothMunchies Před 2 měsíci

    I will say there is a hilarious combo you can excecute in DL with the Odin and Jörmungandr with block defence
    Bring out Odin, special summon Jörmungandr to their side, play a block defence and hope it doesnt get negated, and there goes 3k life
    Then crash into it with Odin after activating his effect
    It’s janky, it’s only going to work once every 30 duels, but when it does, it feels great

  • @johnweaver311
    @johnweaver311 Před 2 měsíci

    Please do a success card series! Instead of failed archetypes, do the ones that made the grade.

  • @TheWorldArise
    @TheWorldArise Před 2 měsíci

    A duel where th deck consist of failed card from your series of video would be cool

  • @vaulthunterfromterra4053
    @vaulthunterfromterra4053 Před 2 měsíci

    They should have either made it one cohesive archetype, or made 3 actual archetypes that are somewhat compatible (so they could function in the TagDual format like in the Anime)

  • @DarknessDpa
    @DarknessDpa Před 2 měsíci

    Also shoutouts to Hippo Carnival, best Nordic support card ever

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Před 2 měsíci +2

    0:33 Retrain ideas to improve the Nordic beasts and Alfars:
    _Tanngnjostr, First Amongst the Nordic Beasts_ (EARTH)
    Level 3
    Beast/Tuner/Effect
    _When a monster you control is destroyed by battle or an opponent’s effect and sent to the GY, OR If your opponent controls a Monster(s) and you control no monsters: You can Special Summon this card from your hand. While you control both this face-up card and a face-up “Tanngrisnir, First Amongst the Nordic Beasts”, all Non-Tuner monsters you control can be treated as Tuner monsters for your summon of a monster(s). Once per turn, While this card is face-up on the field or in your GY, If a monster(s) you control changes Battle Positions: You can Shuffle this card into your deck; Special Summon 1 "Nordic" monster from your hand or Deck in Defense Position._
    ATK/1200 DEF/1200
    _Tanngrisnir, First Amongst the Nordic Beasts_
    Level 3
    _Beast/Tuner/Effect_
    _When a monster you control is destroyed by battle or an opponent’s effect and sent to the GY, OR If your opponent controls a Monster(s) and you control no monsters: You can Special Summon this card from your hand. While you control both this face-up card and a face-up “Tanngnjostr, First Amongst the Nordic Beasts”, all Tuner monsters you control can be treated as Non-Tuner monsters for your summon of a monster(s). Once per turn, While this card is face-up on the field or in the GY, If a Monster you control is destroyed by battle or an opponent’s effect and sent to the GY: You can shuffle this card into your deck; Special Summon 1 or 2 "Nordic Beast Tokens" (Beast/EARTH/Level 3/ATK 0/DEF 0)._
    ATK/1200 DEF/1200
    _Garmr, First Amongst the Nordic Beasts_ (DARK)
    Level 4
    Beast/Tuner/Effect
    _When a monster you control is destroyed by battle or an opponent’s effect and sent to the GY, OR If your opponent controls a Monster(s) and you control no monsters: You can Special Summon this card from your hand. You can Special Summon this card from your hand. If a “Nordic” or “Aseir” monster you control battles a Level/rank/Link 4 or lower monster, after damage calculation: You can return that monster to the hand or extra deck. While this card is face-up on the field or in the GY (Quick Effect), and your opponent summons a monster(s) from their extra deck: You can shuffle this card into your deck; Add 1 Monster to your hand (from your deck) that mentions “Nordic” or “Aseir” in it’s name or text._
    ATK/800 DEF/1900
    _Guldfaxe, First Amongst the Nordic Beasts_ (LIGHT)
    Level 4
    Beast/Tuner/Effect
    _When a monster you control is destroyed by battle or an opponent’s effect and sent to the GY, OR If your opponent controls a Monster(s) and you control no monsters: You can Special Summon this card from your hand. While you control this face-up card, “Nordic” and “Aseir” monsters you control can attack all of your opponent’s monsters once each. While this card is face-up on the field or in the GY (Quick Effect), And your opponent summons a monster(s) from their extra deck: You can shuffle this card into your deck; Add 1 Spell/card to your hand (from your deck) that mentions “Nordic” or “Aseir” in it’s name or text._
    ATK/1600 DEF/1000
    _Mara, First Amongst the Nordic Alfars_ (DARK)
    Level 2
    Spellcaster/Flip/Effect
    _FLIP: Return 1 Synchro monster from your GY or Banishment to your extra deck._
    _When using this card as Synchro Material, You can use 1 or more "Nordic" monsters in your hand as other Synchro Materials, and if you do, the summoned monster gains the following effect:_
    _⚪️If this face-up card you control would be destroyed or banished, you can tribute 1 “Nordic” monster from your hand or field instead._
    ATK/1000 DEF/500
    _Ljosalf, First Amongst the Nordic Alfars_ (LIGHT)
    Level 4
    Spellcaster/Flip/Effect
    _FLIP: Declare the name of 1 “Nordic” monster from your hand, field or GY, then target 1 monster on the field; For the rest of the turn, Monsters from your hand, deck, field or GY with the declared name have their levels changed to equal the targeted monster’s Level/Rank/Link._
    _If this card is Summoned: You can target 1 face-up monster you control; Special Summon 1 "Nordic" monster from your hand with a Level less than or equal to that face-up monster's Level._
    ATK/1400 DEF/1200
    _Svartalf, First Amongst the Nordic Alfars_ (DARK)
    Level 5
    Spellcaster/Tuner/Flip/Effect
    _FLIP: You can Send 1 “Nordic” monster from your hand, field, deck or banishment to your GY._
    _If this card is summoned, You can target 1 "Nordic" card in your GY; add that target to your hand, And if you do, you can reveal it to apply the following effect for the rest of the turn._
    _⚪️Face-up “Nordic” and “Aseir” monsters you control gain ATK equal to their original DEF, and DEF equal to their original ATK._
    ATK/1400 DEF/1600
    _Dverg, First Amongst the Nordic Alfars_ (EARTH)
    Level 1
    Warrior/Tuner/Flip/Effect
    _FLIP: Until your next Tribute summon a monster(s) resolves, Spells/Traps you control can be used as tributes for your Tribute summon of a monster._
    _After you summon this card, You can target 1 "Nordic" card in your GY; you can Normal Summon 1 "Nordic" monster during your Main Phase this turn, in addition to your Normal Summon/Set. (You can only gain this effect once per turn.) If this face-up card on the field is banished or sent to the GY: Target 1 "Nordic" Spell/Trap in your GY or Banishment; add that target to your hand._
    ATK/1400 DEF/1600

  • @F1ghtGam3r
    @F1ghtGam3r Před 2 měsíci

    Top 10 archetypes, based on other properties

  • @CB-L
    @CB-L Před 2 měsíci +1

    It's both hilarious and sad that Team Ragnarok's Archetypes got all the extender supports during the years just to end up with terrible _gods_ who were *never actually useful.*
    Tag force adds to the insult that Halldor pretty much always prefer summoning *Brionac* (Usually Valkyrie+Token) instead of Odin regardless the board lol

    • @ReifinDFanchon
      @ReifinDFanchon Před 2 měsíci +1

      Brionac over any Aesir is as poetic as Rei (GX) entire deck in the anime were so bad, borderline unplayable, they straight up give her Lightsworn instead in Tag Force.

    • @CB-L
      @CB-L Před 2 měsíci

      @@ReifinDFanchon That became kind of a tradition/meme with Tag Force - Girls who barely dueled in the source material or had terrible archetypes getting overpowered decks. 5D's TF had Mina using all sorts of weird stuff like *Dogma Blade, Chaos Lightsworn and Planet Agents* :/

  • @williamdrum9899
    @williamdrum9899 Před 26 dny

    16:06 Still waiting on Nordic Relic QWERTYUIOP

  • @giftedfox4748
    @giftedfox4748 Před 2 měsíci

    As a Pagan I really wanted the deck to work. But sadly, it couldn't be done unless you have more cards outside the Nordic list to make it realistic.

  • @jamesarchibald6172
    @jamesarchibald6172 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Jump scare ad

  • @koffithegreat
    @koffithegreat Před 2 měsíci +2

    Love your videos why don't you do one on successful archetypes. Also first comment

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 Před 2 měsíci

    It's a shame this Archetype didn't work out. Could've been really awesome to have various archetypes based on different mythologies and gods, yet much like the Egyptian Gods, these guys came up quite short.

  • @douglanmar
    @douglanmar Před 2 měsíci

    4:10 a mimir

  • @DazeJokerz
    @DazeJokerz Před 2 měsíci

    "German Goater the nordic serpeant" 😂😂

  • @SerpentineDeity
    @SerpentineDeity Před 2 měsíci +2

    Whoever designed this archtype needs to get fired.

  • @RyuuMurasaki
    @RyuuMurasaki Před 2 měsíci +1

    Still dont get why Konami decided to just make a better Nordic Deck in form from Generaider, which are pretty much the same Monster, just named differently, but just better in every way, even tho they let your opponent draw Cards.

  • @mrhalfsaid1389
    @mrhalfsaid1389 Před 2 měsíci

    It is sad how these awesome cards with a cool deck plan don't work (they were my first deck given as a gift, had valkyrie cards in it too. Quite fun)

  • @grand-malice175
    @grand-malice175 Před 2 měsíci

    *Generaider has entered the chat*