The Town Trying to Pump Billions of Gallons of Water to Their Desert Community
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- čas přidán 4. 03. 2021
- Washington County, Utah is one of the fastest growing regions in the country and to sustain that growth they want to build a pipeline to divert billions of gallons of water from the Colorado River. Conservationists say the project could be a disaster for the drought-stricken Southwest.
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Living in deserts is something people have been doing since basically always, but living in a desert and expecting to have grass straight from a landscaping magazine and a green golf course is absolute insanity.
i love how all their arguments started with...but what will the children play on..my oh my what will the children do?!..well your dumbass moved to the desert.
boomers and their holy lawns with perfect green grass 😐 these people are quite literally indescribable.
@@aibuedefeisrael2045 but thats different then growing grass for golf courses ...
@@aibuedefeisrael2045 the areas in this video were never forested though, the Colorado river basin has been a desert for a long long time
@@aibuedefeisrael2045 it's not possible at all actually. These regions are deserts because of their latitude and the descending cold air that is a result of Hadley cells in the Atmosphere, as well as the rain shadow they lay in. There is no long term "greening" of these areas, period. There is simply no way to get atmospheric humidity to these places.
New rule: no golf courses in the middle of the fucking desert
Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico *starts whistling and kicking rocks*
@@nuterra9143 don't forget Palm Springs California
But the kids *need to* run around on lawn. That's what we moved into the desert for! Think of the kids!
Only white people want to golf in the 104 heat and no trees for shade if I was to buy option stocks on the level of the water I’d bet it would go down. They seem like selfish developers but what do I know.
@@breakingnews3985 you seem a little confused on the diverse geography of California.
I live her talking about how “we can’t have kids playing soccer in the dirt” when literally millions around the globe do exactly that, some of them producing the best players
I grew up playing -soccer- football in the dirt and asphalt. I would look at Maradona and van Basten and envy the nice grass they had available to them. However, when you have lemons, you make lemonade, so we had to learn to conserve water. I now live in a different climate entirely but still have conserving water in my DNA even though I don't need to. Waste is not good even if you can "afford" it. Its like having 5 children. To me that's a self-inflected wound, not to the the individual who's had all those babies but to humanity overall. We don't need kids, stop having more than 2.
There is also no reason they couldn't build an indoor soccer field.
I've played soccer for 14 years. when it was on grass it was such a rarity I didn't like it. I have no idea what this lady was talking about
There is also astroturf...
@@nicholasfield6127 Our national stadium was astroturf until probably 2000. They could not afford to maintain the grass, and water was also a consideration.
They're talking about needing water. This dude is playing on a golf course. Wow.
I'm pretty certain that growing grass in the desert is the definition of waste.
EXACTLYYYYY
Saint george dragons are a great rugby league football team.
Using fresh drinking water to keep morons alive is more wasteful, in my opinion.
times ten...
Not for the rich!
Golf courses in the middle of a friggin’ desert should be illegal. This just represents the selfishness and short sightedness of too many people in this country.
Too many useless people who con sider themselves to be above everyone else and claim all resources for themselves! Georgia Guidestones anyone?😡😡😡
Story of America selfishness and greed destroying us from within
This is all true..
I know capitalism can have its Pros but the greed of it all makes it not worth it.
People are dying in the world praying for a drink of water, but hey golf courses right?
most of the water doesn't even go to the grass. It is lost to evaporation.
the ultimate short sightedness, is continually infesting the planet with more people....whilst blaming all the problems due to those people on everything else.
Ugly, car-centric, unaffordable, sub-urban single family homes surrounded by golf courses in the desert. There is a tremendous amount of heat-sucking pavement with lawns in the front and back yards. I'm disgusted.
It is 100% absurd to pump water to that community. If you want to live in a desert you should accept your “quality of life” will be lower than other climates (no water usage on frivolous uses like landscaping).
@@maxburke5196 so…. no one in the community likes the golf courses or the growth. Interesting 🤔 lol
@@user-rj8tm5wv7p dude, golf courses are an environmental disaster. And we don’t need 9,052 golf courses in this country. Let alone 140 in the state of Utah, when we don’t have the resources to maintain them at full capacity. It’s ludicrous to think that golf courses and unsustainable infrastructure is progress. We should be working with the environment not against it. We should be ADAPTING.
@@user-rj8tm5wv7p the people that use the golf courses are the tourists that come through, and the people moving in are coming from California or the east coast. The city doesn’t have the infrastructure for so many people and all the people that were born here don’t like it being a big city so they’re all starting to move
@@aleleeramos I can agree with you on this but that doesn’t change my original statement. The most powerful people in that community obviously want growth. Also, growth is a great thing. You just need to find balance.
The quality of life doesn't have to be low, but it must be different. There are ways to work with nature and still thrive. I live in the desert and I've slowly been transforming acres of bare desert by planting native grasses right before monsoon and bringing in truckloads of compost from a rancher who was happy to donate the multiple tons of manure. I only had to water a few trees for three years to get them established and now they're doing well on their own with no input from me. The grasses were allowed to multiply as they wanted and are spreading dramatically fast all by themselves. We didn't bring it in, but amaranth has claimed our entire south pasture and now we have grain for wildlife. The place went from giving 'surface of Mars' to 'prairie grassland' with no irrigation at all. The deer and quail love it here. This year we begin building swales to help recharge our local aquafer and retain moisture in the soil.
Plant things that want to grow where you are. If you enter a battle with nature, you're sure to lose. If we work with her, she'll reward us 100 fold.
"we conquered nature'"- idiotic last words.
Same thing the titanic said...
Nature bats last.
@@mtcharts Truth! These leeches, disgusting vultures capitalist should be strapped to a cactus;& left to see what are future children will inherited....a land without water. Let them spend their money dying attached to a hellish cactus 🌵!
Totally... first you build it where is not reasonable to have it, next you make everyone else to pay out of their water share to keep it running.
Nature will always, and I mean always, have the last laugh.
Americans: choose to live in the middle of a desert
*confused why there is no water*
smort
I guarantee the whole town voted for trump
Is that reason people hate living Arizona?
Not only choose to live but then they built 13 golf courses, the water you need to keep so much grass green is unbelievable for place with that climate, they create the problem and then do the worst to “fix it”. Those people are trash
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Here we are a year later, with the Southwest experiencing a horrific drought. All the SW states are in a water crisis. This was never a good idea. Now, you see the outcome.
I live in Northern California and we're going a through major water situation here. Often homes still have beautiful green lawns. I'm curious when, or why we haven't started to utilize artificial grass turfs yet in landscaping. Not only will the lawn be green year-round but it will also reduce emissions due to fewer people mowing their yard
I saw a video on this very subject. A man put in a beautiful turf lawn to conserve water, and the city is making him rip it out, saying it isn't up to code.
Kyle I let my lawn die. I looked into artificial turf, but it was prohibitively expensive no less than $8000 for a strip abutting my patio and >$20,000 for the front. It was pretty disappointing.
Artificial turf is very, very expensive.
Artificial turf is also plastic. Solving the water use efficiency environmental problem by using plastics that will eventually degrade or be disposed of is not a very good solution.
A cultural shift away from having lawns is what's needed. Use other decorative plants in beds, ones thay use less water, and then just not have grass.
50 years later there will be a doc. regarding how this once sprawling town ran out of water and everything went to ruin now its a ghost town...
Lol they are going to shoot zombie apocalypse movies there
Supposedly florida will be out of water in the next 30 years
@@OTAlucard Florida will be under water in the next 30 years*
Lol far less than 50 years...
Yeah right all the rich bastards in St george will buy their way out of a drought!!!
wasting water on golf greens in the desert says all we need to know about these people
Build a aqueduct from the Mississippi River if u want water my friend
I agree. And I'm a golfer!
@@Iconoclasher me too I am a golfer
@@eutimiochavez415
Ten years ago I played golf at a course in Sun City AZ during a dry spell. They let the course dry up but everyone still played. I got some neon-green balls and it was still fun!
@@Iconoclasher you wouldn't agree if you lived there mr golfer
He actually said, “We’ve conquered nature…” And Mother Nature said “hold my beer”…
That's the arrogance. That will have that entire community a ghost town in 5 years or less.
More like “Hold my water” 😁🤦♂️
I grew up not far from this town, in fact I was born at the hospital across the street from the Saint George Temple. The county has a major problem with oriental grass. Most people I know would either flood water it or use sprinkler irrigation. The amount of grass that is grown simply to make landscaping look cool is astonishing. They really need to take a page out of Las Vegas’ playbook. However the biggest abuser here is California. Ask someone from SoCal where their water comes from, they’ll tell you it comes from upstate, the Sierra Nevada mountains. They don’t realize how much of it is pulled from the Colorado river. California needs to do a much better job with educating their general population on where their water comes from. And also cut the amount of farming in the south, at least for a little while until the basin has enough time to recover.
"You can't have kids play soccer on dirt, nobody wants to do that."
*laughs in latin america*
Not to mention, laughs in African/middle eastern
@One Decent Machinist as a landscaper who works with my apa and making 150 k a year here in the beautiful country of Texas, I am ...idk
JJASAJSJS laughs in ecuadorian
And africa
Blacktops
Wood chops
Sand pit
This is where I play in my rich town.
"We've conquered nature." - Such arrogance.
Until nature conquers you back.
tap into The Colorado river, true facebook science. hey let remove golf courses, lawns stop people moving to the desert and demand water.. Mountains snow is gone keep driving your F150
... and ignorance.
The reporter set him up for a sound bite.
Like the Nazis conquered France.
We already have a Palm Springs and the entire cochela valley, diverting water like this is insane.
My dad’s job took us to a little town in New Mexico(NM) in the early 1960’s. For those who don’t know NM is mostly desert. It was hot in the daytime but cooled off easily at night. People has “swamp coolers “. A small pump cycled water through pads and a blower sucked air through the pads into the house. It was evaporated air conditioning. Very cheap and reliable. The principal worked because the humidity was SO LOW the water in the pads could cool the air as it went through. You had to turn it off at night because it got too cold!! Well the people who moved in started planting grass and trees. Much like these folks in Utah. It’s a DESERT!!! WAKE UP
We left Albuquerque a decade ago, but the swamp coolers and misters had increased the humidity so much swamp coolers were beginning to lose their effect.
I live in southern Colorado near the New Mexico border and swamp coolers are common here as well. I use the difference in temperature between day and night to keep comfortable. I use lots of insulation and thermal mass (concrete) summer nights cool the concrete, winter days warm it. I don't need to evaporate water.
As someone who’s lived in the desert, I can say that there are many landscaping techniques that look amazing and don’t require any lawns. We NEED to drink water. We don’t need lawns. 👍
so true autism family
Artificial grass. That's what I use.
We need lawns
@@Niko-vh8jh so live somewhere that grass grows naturally without irrigation. And we don’t need lawns; you desire a lawn.
@@ludda42 It’s impossible for it not to grow naturally.
Humans can be so selfish and shortsighted at times. Imagine using water that people could be drinking for a fucking golf course in the desert.
It looks cool though :)
@@sn0ipe333 disagree, it’s an ugly manmade monstrosity in a desert.
Good let them suck out all that FUCKING NASTY Cyanobacteria filled water for the golf courses. All that Virgin River water is Killing everything with Cyanotoxins!!!!
@@kingsamoanOG you dont know what your talking about.
That river does so much more than give people drinking water, its like a vein for the country.
@@LittleRainGames what river are you talking about?? The Virgin River is tiny and is filled with deadly cyanotoxins blooms
This is terrifying as the Colorado river is drying up and the Hoover Dam is struggling to produce electricity.
I live in Utah and this is a misuse of water. I've condemned my lawn because its a waste of fresh water. We're in a desert and you have to live with that realization. Stop wasting what we barely have on something so insignificant. Move to Florida or something.
So you would rather water your golf courses than water the crops. Sounds like insanity to me.
In St George the retirees are the crop, the courses are their flypaper.
More to the point the real grass is nothing more than a semantic addition for their insane dream.
You could have some sort of artificial substitute for grass and spend that water more wisely.
Crops OTOH need that water, and even then preferably in a green house where run off can be recycled.
Eat your golf-courses, then, fools.
The list of dummies grows bigger every day…..
Those people are insane.
Golf is quite possibly one of the worst sports for the environment
It should be outlawed under the Green New Deal.
And it’s a sport that’s facing a major problem because younger generations are showing minimal interest in it.
I used to love it and play it. Now i find I'd rather save my money and float a river or play folf in the woods for the price of gas to get there. Just too expensive to golf.
It's a dying sport fewer people play every year
Its just the worst sport period.
The question that should be asked FIRST is: Why does our country allow foreign investors to buy land and farm with our water supply just to ship what they grow to themselves?
Our water should be for our communities, like this one.
I have a simple solution to this problem: STOP DEVELOPING!! The southwest used to be a nice place until developers came in and ruined it and people being stupid by not researching what can happen. They think they are entitled to do what they want without reading between the lines. It just blows my mind.
All these people know it is not sustainable - but they don’t care about anyone else.
What part of modern civilization is sustainable? The gas in your car's tank?
@@sailingaeolus You can use the gas in your car's tank to get out of the desert.
Even the real estate gal giggles..She don't care..She just wants to make a sale...
Thanks Americans all over
The true american way
"Not long ago all of this was desert"
It still is bro
So is the bottom half of california. Does that stop them from building? Hell no
@@teemoleague907 back in the day it didn’t stop them from building out because it was built out BEFORE water conservation and conservation was an issue. Also LA and most of Southern California was built out because of the California Water Project which dried out Owens Lake and completely destroyed the entire ecosystem of the Owens Valley.
@@pinhead35 those bastards in LA just steal our northern California water.
@@pinhead35 The All-american water canal and the California aqueduct sends water to the LA basin and San Diego. On top of that, big farming corporate steal water all the way from palm spring to El Centro. California keeps building on the east side of southern california. They have been turning their desert wasteland into profit.
@@brownjatt21 Almost half of the states water is used in Agriculture in the center of California. only about 10% is used by all the cities in California.
I'm amazed to see how in denial everyone is about this situation. How do you move to a desert with the expectation that you are entitled to a bright green lawn. "I don't care if I have to steal water from the Navajo nation and other communities that were here before me. I'm a billionaire and I want it! Give it to me, it's mine!" Amazing.
These people deserve to be publicly shamed
Desert desert everywhere and not a drop of water to drink! I know, let’s build a golf course...🤯
exactly its ridiculous 13 golf courses
It's greed
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@CRXYTV 13 golf courses!? 😯😯 Really?
Thats old white men for ya
This is just more rich people wasting money and resources for their own pleasure at the expense of everyone else.
@Solid Snake Then substantiate your point?
Gotta Love capitalism.
@@daxbruce3491 ergg capitalism bad
A town that big isn’t just rich people man
@@anonwithamnesia dude that’s smoked with a population that city has it is definitely not all rich people... rich people were simply highlighted in this video. This is not the full story of this town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So much watering and yet not one tree in sight, not one shrub, not one natural shade that can cool down the ground and prevent water evaporation.
Oh what a difference a year makes. Two Billion dollars to have a pipeline to an empty reservoir. This thing, thank goodness, is never getting built.
its creepy how out of touch that realtor is. like delusional creepy.
Well, she is "perfect" the way she is.
Cause her clients want exactly the insanity she sells.
@@peterpan4038 Her clients need a healthy dose of reality. It should be illegal for real estate agents like this lady not to disclose the reality of the scarcity of water out there, especially since there are some measures that homeowners can take to conserve water - measures that are not currently being taken.
I would ask her what her commision will be.
A lot of bad people out there ! I won’t let them win
@@iguanapete3809 6% on $1 million is $60,000 (typically split between selling and listing agents; different rates different states/agencies)
“Kids can’t run around on asphalt”
Inner city kids:🤨
I played 95% of my soccer games on asphalt, I got hit by a car and motorcycle.
@@steveb7762 right, if you haven’t been hit by at least one car you didn’t grow up in the inner city.
Yoooo that fucking smirk too
They can run on dirt like most of the kids in the world.
Artificial Turf fields is a common play field now. The same can be said for grass in yards. The latest products look very realistic.
Water for golf courses should cost 1000 times a home’s cost. The Colorado River cannot support ANY more homes, businesses, farms, and CERTAINLY not golf courses.
All golf courses should become pollinator gardens, bird gardens, and gardens for the community
Destroying native grasslands for golf courses like that absolutely infuriates me. These people are trying to play god and it is going to come back to bite this entire ecosystem in the ass
No native grass there it's native to desert eco syst
If it infuriates you too much then go leave your houses and live under a tree somewhere. That way you can have minimum impact on native earth.
Its so selfish.and just greed. Look how he said! It's ours! Like he's in entitled to it. I don't feel sorry for America. You have made capitalism your holy grail! It's in everything. It's all about want,want, want. Have, have,have. Your destroying yourself whit a bigg smile on your face.👍👍 good luck whit that!
Honestly
They're the same people who tell us plebs to be more eco friendly
Get rid of the golf course, requires such a waste of water for one thing.
Use astro turf
@@barclay0876 It could do the same thing somewhere that has water.
@MasterChief 117 It 100% safe to drink tap water in 99.9% of the USA.
The USA has excellent quality of tap water.
@@barclay0876 It's the bleeding desert. Do you want to create a "golf paradise" then build somewhere OTHER than a desert. This is what boggles my mind, people who move to a desert then want to swipe water from poorer areas to make it green. Acknowledge the climate where you are, the Colorado is ALREADY depleted to historic levels, hell the Sea of Cortez suffers because of the water being taken from the Colorado. But the "hey we're rich we'll pay for it so screw those poor people down (the non-existent) stream" attitude is abominable. Honestly.
@@GlenCychosz the USA really doesn't.
A year later, Arizona doesn't have water in some parts also..... actually this place has more water than areas around Scottsdale
I love how the real estate agent says she's never heard of a moratorium on building when that's already been happening in the US for the past couple of decades. We've been building way less houses than the previous generations, hiking up the cost of housing. She should know that as a real estate agent. I don't know if it's willful ignorance or the US education system but my god. Maybe they should get a shipment of leap frog tablets instead of a damn pipeline.
"...we'd have kids playing soccer on dirt, bobody wants to do that"
Awww, too bad, let me cry you a river of tears!!! don't move into the DESERT if you have to have a green grass lawn!
Isn't there plenty of ppl around the world that play soccer on dirt?
First world problems haha. They can literally just use fake grass
@@miguellabrada My old school uses fake grass and rubber gravel, we played soccer and foot ball just fine.
@@lolcatjunior exactly
Most schools now use turf for everything because the cost and matinence are lower. At high level you need grass but that's not a problem as its only 1-2 fields. 5 year old kids don't need grass for soccer.
The arrogance of the human being will be it's own down fall.
*its
Just say rich white people.
@@lptomtom oh god the irony in your comment is heartbreakingly funny
@@rapper4orty2 it’s not just rich white people tho lol
Ok alien
Spraying water into the air with big sprinklers is incredibly inefficient.. . providing that what you want to do is grow grow grow, and the rest of the country's water needs be damned.
I live in Salt Lake City with family down in Washington County and I hope they come to their senses quickly. Lake Powell is already at historically low levels, this is such a stupid idea.
It’s actually sickening to look at the amount of ignorance going on here.
Utah. Hard to believe that anyone with the thought process of these people can be smart enough to have a job that pays enough to build a house.
@@ronskancke8166 Harry Reid tried stealing water from the great basin and pipe it to Vegas. The courts shot him down immediately.
No, they are CHOOSING to be this way.
That chick is such a Karen...the sheer greed and selfishness, at any cost to others. It's shameful and needs to be shut down hard.
They have some money these people are scum of the earth think they can by everything without any consequences
"We need to have grass where kids can play. They can't run around on the asphalt" - the lady just cancelled my entire childhood
She actually said "dirt" not asphalt. But either way.... I played in dirt and we played soccer, football, baseball and everything else.
@@paulcollinsworth3326 She said asphalt 6:03
as if kids in the rest of the world don't play. Dirt works just as well as grass, and even better for some sports like cricket.
Me and my friends would play street hockey on the top levels of parking garages
Lady then move somewhere where grass grows automatically🤭
Golf is of course a Human Right! Same as carrying an AR-15. What a country!
The ignorance and selfishness of those officials and the residents of this town is astounding. Recently the St. George City manager said "less water doesn't mean no water" as an argument for still wanting this absurd pipeline despite the mega drought, declining water levels, etc.
Colorado river is already nearly sucked dry. Can’t believe they would consider putting another straw in it.
Clean water is the new gold/silver.
And yet look at Las Vegas who is doing a ton of sucking. Look at So Cal another oasis in the desert. No one is innocent.
And on top of that Hoover damm makes the power for Las Vegas .No water no power.
what a beautiful world right 🥴
LMAO fr tho
Real estate lady: "Nobody wants to see kids playing in dirt."
Most kids: Dig holes to play in dirt...
Kids LOVE dirt for riding the BMX bikes and Motocross Motorcycles. In addition 4X4 for adults love to play in dirt too. You need to look the positives in your area and not try to change their natural environment into the opposite. Also, stop blaming Climate Change. The second they complain about their lakes being empty, they'll get a flood that threatens to bust the damn. We see it all the time.
Or just turf right?
@Kanwalnoor Singh Hundal yes
@Kanwalnoor Singh Hundal we have a epidemic of cops killing innocent black civilians, its not just the liberation of the black community but all communities of color
@Kanwalnoor Singh Hundal Washington state
In the UK plastic grass has taken over a lot of homes people dont have to cut it every week and it looks tidy...
Watering a golf course in a wasteland is stupid
"Are we wasting water? Yes. should we stop? Probably. Will we? No"
Dude, Americans with any resource.
@@callusklaus2413 wait till US wages war for water to another country XD
@@callusklaus2413 "Americans" have little say over resource usage. Blame the management class.
@@andrewhooper7603 Very true
@@BrunoMaskulado03 That's one of the sillier statements I have heard. The USA has more fresh water than it could ever use. It's just not conveniently located where these Morons want to live, in the middle of a desert.
Fun fact: golf started in Scotland as the easiest option for a sport given it rains 300 days of the year and the grass is growing naturally everywhere.
You clearly never had to cut grass. 300 days a year??? That would require a ridiculous amount of grass cutting to maintain a fairway. Especially back then before lawn mowers. Any golf course in Scotland was a labor of love lol
@Ceejay Mac actually he's probably exaggerating it, but a quick search on Google the wettest places in Scotland receive 250 days of rain and 150 in the dryer parts. Sounds like paradise in Vegas it's not even 10 days a year 😔
Another Fun Fact: Here in Scotland there are over 30,000 fresh water lochs - just one of these , yes ONE ( Loch Ness ) has more fesh water in it than all of England and Wales by volume at around 7,452 million cubic metres. In a few decades countires will be buying our water as the world goes short, the best tasting tap in the entire world :) And with Climate change Scotland is set to get warmer and wetter.
@@gabeslife0601 fairways were more of an optional thing in the golf of centuries past. Entire courses, greens included, would be considered "rough" or "deep rough" by contemporary standards
This comment needs for upvotes.
Building large communities in the desert during a climate emergency doesn't seem like the best plan to me.
Golfers are like some of the worst people ever.
we could use all that wasted land for something useful like homeless shelters.
rip George Carlin
“Nobody wants to play in dirt. Kids can’t run around in the asphalt.” Ma’am, you must have missed the entire 90’s; that’s all we had 😂
Or the decades before the 90s as well??
"You'd have kids playing soccer on just dirt. Nobody wants to do that."
All the nations kicking USA's ass in the worldcup for centuries: "You guys have shoes?"
But you’re like 21
i played in ditch
Oh you have it all wrong, her and her privileged kids played on beautiful green grass. You and I didn't.
GREEN GRASS golf courses in the dessert should be outlawed. What a HUUGE waste of water.
You can't waste water. Water doesn't go anywhere it changes form but ends up back as water lol.
@@johndavies4644 that is true but the very existence of this video and it’s dilemma disproves your reasoning.
@@cyclonevertical7234 well it doesn't, it seems like people are sucked into the conspiracy of global warming and have illogical reasoning to believe water can be wasted.. water is an infinite source becuase it never goes but changes form. Your water board won't tell you that but science can.. you can't waste water, its illogical.
@@johndavies4644 like I said, you are right but this problem of having to ration water and fight for water is the problem. Water CAN be wasted (in this case it’s on a fucking golf course in the middle of the desert) if it is not replenished fast enough. Which is the case considering the crazy long drought the west has been in. The effects of this drought can be seen everywhere, in the case of the video, it states lake Powell and the Colorado river are not all full capacity, and that is the problem this video is addressing. What is the point of wasting water on grass in a place that doesn’t need it? It would make sense for agriculture but not for the reasons they argue in this video.
@@johndavies4644 oh and it’s climate change not global warming
any update on this?
Growing food is more important than grass. Certainly more important than 13 golf courses.
"Our reservoir is running dry, let's just tap into... another reservoir!" - Big Brain American
That is also running dry.
Fortunately they keep private companies from doing that that way the entire world is not poisoned and dying of thirst even more than they are now
Excuse me..but that's "Smooth Brain American"
And they're literally making a cause video as if anyone with sense thinks that's a good idea. She said kids can't run around on asphalt as if people don't have kids in the cities and they don't play on the asphalt and concrete. They need to stop with the bullshit hoas ticketing people for not having perfectly manucured lawns and let these people turn their yards into self sustaining farms and gardens. Let them use solar get rid of the wasteful water parks and nonsense that's over taxing farmers because they're the ones who dried up all that water just to feed these people and now that the water is so low they can't even tap into it and are digging wells to tap the aquifers so they need to make community wells,allow for collection of rain water, diy and stop bitching and crying because they already have the water they're just using it stupidly. To try and bleed money from people for nonsense. This country needs to start acting like their asses are in survival mode like they should be instead of playing victim like we're not all drying up like raisins left out in the sun too damn long. Drop the political correct diplomatic bullshit and call it what it is. The municipality and hoas have them by the balls and they're begging the government to give them a pipeline handout to keep up with the kardashians or jones' or whoever. NO ONE CARES ABOUT THEIR GODDAMN LAWN!
Well we are on that what is happening to all the water that is running directly into the ocean un and now that I've learned to study US history I know they speak in half ass words and partial meaning so what do they mean by we are having a drought specifically like we're in a drought we don't have enough water to fill the desert we are in a job we don't have enough water for the farms like we are in a drought we don't have enough money for water for beer and in combination of the three other things specifically what are they talking about and I guess they would be having a drought if you have 10 dogs drink out of a bowl that's made for one the water is probably going to disappear fairly quick so with that said does it mean that we have so many people here that too much water is being taken specifically what do they mean it is always a one-sided conversation nobody to ask the question and the people that are there to ask the questions or asking scripted questions never deviated never a real question only what is popular only what makes money we can do better
The riches just showing their environmental concerns.
It's Utah so they'll just pray for things to get fixed and when things get worst they'll just say it's God's will.
@@R_A_3000 Actually no, it's god will when the community down the river runs out of water because god told them to build a pipeline.
@@R_A_3000 Bitter atheist detected
@@chilliecheesecake I’d rather be a bitter atheist then a mind-washed zealot.
@@wyattalvarez4880 Dont break your wrist patting yourself on the back, Einstein.
I'm watching this as it's pouring raining outside..
To think I wanted to move to the southwest because I enjoyed the warmth and desert landscape when I was a child. Now these short sighted people are building homes there at an alarming rate and sucking up all the water with their unnatural landscapes. These homes are going for more than a million dollars and that's WAY to expensive for me. Now the desert southwest is going through its worst drought crisis in history. If they don't start conserving water instead of wasting it on unnatural landscapes and golf courses, there's going to be no water left for anyone. When the water runs out, these developers are going to be out some serious money.
Just keep in mind that HOA exists in this town and they'll probably give you ticket for not watering your grass enough.
HOAs are anti American hellholes
@@maxgorden499 Mostly. There are some ways they could be good but 99% of the time, they are misused badly.
They do have a nice degree of desert plant in those yards. Yes there is grass but it isnt 100% grass like in other western states.
@@maxgorden499 depends on the neighborhood. They can seriously increase the value of your house
Can you not take them to court, what is it a communist country they tell you how your property is to look whrn you pay 1 million for it lololol.
The waste is everywhere in the west. Something as simple as watering only at night doesn’t seem to be even considered.
yeah, the west could lern so much from you guys 🙄
I live in san diego near a golf course and large park in a middle class _upper middle class area. Every morning I see water sprinklers turned on for the golf course and park. This is while at same time in other parts of san diego u see signs for water conservation. Lol. What a farce.
@@stenyethanmathews945
don’t worry, you‘ll always live near those areas, never in them
@@FixedFace well considering your punctuation, I’m sure you could
I'm sure China and India are a glowing example of environmental protection 🙄🙄🙄
As a home owner in an area of drought, people do seem to believe that paying a higher water bill magically recharges water supplies.
This is going to be one of the first ghost towns as water dries up
The wealthy: Water will be the new oil of this century.
Also the wealthy: We love wasting water. When our supply gets low, we'll just take yours!
Why plans for Guillotines are floating around the internet...
@@jeffday7397 People need plans to make one? lol
I would like to see them take the Great lakes. That is not even going to happen. They would need to put that water back and that would take a pipeline that they are not going to be allowed to build. Going to be funny when Salt Lake city runs out of water, and they wonder where all their water went to.
@@notright7 There are many places flush with water. Pipelines could really help to make places more hospitable for living. Land is not the precious commodity, water is.
@@notright7
Water theft is done by bribing government reps. It’s done legally, behind closed doors. In weaker (poorer) countries that can’t fight big money/influence it’s been happening for decades. The government reps have no recourse, because if they don’t help, companies simply back their opponents.
For ex, Coke/Pepsi take water from poor farmers/villages and donate a little bit of money to schools/hospitals to keep their mouths shut. They make billions and donate a few hundred thousands. The people have no clue where the water is and how damaged their environment has gotten until it’s too late. The factory just moves elsewhere to exploit other villages. They pay absolutely nothing for the permanent damages to the environment and using up the already scarce resources, like they would’ve in normal circumstances. And all the damages/costs are borne by the poor and their progeny for generations. Families have literally committed suicides together to escape the debt trap that they eventually find themselves in.
Once all those poor abroad are all done with and their resources drained, they’ll come for the weak in their own countries next. That’s just capitalism.
“Without grass you would have kids playing soccer on dirt”- god forbid kids play in the dirt or Astrograss
FYI I grew up in a southwestern low income neighborhood, you can guess how our school fields looked lol
I know , where I live there are rats and used needles and any other vile garbage you can think of. The kids have a good time regardless. Just make sure they have someone to pick all the needles before they start playing
They are trying to be another Las Vegas, and that is a damned shame. Las Vegas made their residents remove their lawns. Quite frankly, no one should have a lawn as they are ridiculous. Plant natural foliage that doesn't need to be mowed. Skip the mowing and the chemicals and have a better life.
@@Anne--Marie especially in the desert.
You obviously have never been on artificial turf! They are in desert. It would be to hot!
Clearly these dude's don't know how poor kids play soccer
3 out of 4 home sales in Washington County over the past 24 months have been non-Utah residents. It's mostly people who fled California or other lockdown states and came here for the beauty and the freedom. I speak to these people on a regular basis.
I think it is cool how they're building in places that normally do not house people. That's a cool part. They can pump more water into the Colorado River
"nobody wants to play soccer in dirt"
I played in the mud and would still do it
way more fun beats out grass, then mom beats you up but hey, the cicle of life...
I played on this thing called artificial grass.
we payed on fake grass in texas .
That's the best way to play!
So much herbicide in municipal parks shown here and folks wonder why cancers flourish down the road.
Water usage for Utah:
~75% agriculature, ~25% golf courses, ~1% people . . . go figure
You can bet your bottom dollar that there will be bills in our next election cycle voting on whether to restrict water usage for residents even more than it already is, but there will be zero, zilch, not a single one eliminating water use for golf courses. The farmers will see a reduction in water usage before golf courses do.
Leave it to rich deluded mor(m)ons to kill everything except grass and call it "conquering nature."
@@YodaWasSith Maybe you should start breeding gophers
Reduce golf courses. Plant dessert plants instead of grass as in Nevada. Harvest water for personal use, not recreational as in golf courses.
Have you tried walking on astroturf in that heat ? It’s a killer …
You could argue that the 75% agriculture is for people, golf courses are for people, add them together 90% of the syphoned off water usage is for people.
These people denied the Keystone pipeline, as such they need to be denied.
With a drought, a golf course is not an essential commodity. Parks and agricultural is. A golf course is just a place for rich people to play
This seems completely thought out. Can't imagine anything going wrong.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The russians tryed something like this, it didn't work for long and it drained a huge lake dry, now everything there is sand.
Weve got a fine track record of environmental upkeep. Itll be great
need to invest more in rainwater harvesting
@@themeanestkitten Yup, but they're trying to reverse that, and the "Aral sea" is actually starting to come back.
i live in Arizona and the Colorado river is already tapped out as it is. in my region they are building a coal plant to provide energy so they can pump water from our aquafer to places where the colorado river runs dry. Its insane, and we dont do that much to be less wasteful. We have golf courses, theres no water rationing, and we dont compost. Atleast in tucson they have the decency of having rock lawns. This project is just repeating the mistakes of other communities.
I moved to Tucson from Ireland and the drinking water (tap) here is fucking disgusting
Bro im so far up river than you in colorado and even up here the shits dried up. Mostly all going to california even when we had severe drought. Super sad seeing the colorado turned into a stream.
@@eddyfitzgerald2518 You cant drink American tap water mate, Its all fucking poisoned.
I used to be flat out against those in the Southwest building massive pipelines to bring either the Mississippi water or the Great Lakes to the west. But now, idk. I wanted people to move back to the regions that can support them but has lost millions of residences that went to less sustainable locations. We have all this developed area existing infrastructure here in the North East that just sits empty. Meanwhile, we're building all that same infrastructure NEW in the southwest. That's dumb.
All that snow in colorado and no water. Bullshit.
"we'll just get the water from lake Powell"
Lake Powell: lol bruh
kevin, slow you transition down and get up on the left side to finish well.
I have lived in the southwest my whole life and we didn't have grass on our playgrounds. If you can't grow grass naturally that means it shouldn't be there.
Plus there's tons of different types of grass. Kentucky Bluegrass is the type we use for lawns and it's very water intensive. There's plenty of other grasses that don't use as much water - including grasses native to deserts like Achnatherum speciosum (Desert needle grass). It may not be very fun to play on, but it'll look just fine in lawns.
Our recesses in elementary school were in one of two areas - one of which was the asphalt parking lot. The other playground had a ton of burdock and stickseed plants and not much in the way of grass (actual gravel in the playground equipment areas). We'd be picking burs off our shoes and clothes every time we came in from playing on that playground.
@@SadisticSenpai61 we generally had the mulch, sand, gravel, asphalt, concrete, and/or that weird rubber material. The only place that we ever had grass was on the sports field and we didn't get to "play" out there. In some parts of the southwest you literally can't have a lawn because of the water restrictions and I wish it was that way everywhere that doesn't get enough water.
@@SadisticSenpai61 yup here in Canada that bluegrass is our average lawn. Looks great. We also have no water shortages here anywhere.
@@verynice5574 What does that have to do with anything? Not that I have an iPhone anyway. I'm an Android user.
@@SadisticSenpai61 I think they're saying "if you care about the environment but you have a smartphone then you're a hypocrite".
A case of whataboutism, really.
"In 2000, Lake Powell was 94% full. Today in 2020 were at about 50% full"
Yeah and today in 2021 your at 34.4% full!
I grew up in the region. As a child, I remember the lakes being full to the tops of the dams. They’re empty now. I couldn’t move away fast enough when I got old enough.
34: 4% full? But I feel so empty inside 😕
You're*
All right who’s stealing the water????
@@dano1234v nestle is bottling it up and selling it.
How'd this mess do over the summer...? My lawn looks like garbage, and we have sky water...
"Kids playing soccer on dirt". That's exactly what kids do everywhere. That's why soccer is great. I grew up in Portugal and even in the official lower leagues people play on dirt and not on grass. Grass is expensive and the amateur clubs can't afford it.
Let's have 18 golf courses & lush grass yards in the desert instead of using that water to grow food!
Then make a farm to use that water. This water is available it’s excess so why are you complaining
@@Wilhelmofdeseret Excess? No.
nah..... no need, food comes from the grocery store.....🤔
Cities only use 20% of the Colorado water. 80% goes to the agriculture. Sure, there is a room for improvement (i hope they don't actually water their lawns during the day), but agriculture is what we should be focused at.
@@Wilhelmofdeseret It is not excess.
The most pitiful thing is that the Colorado River doesn't even reach the ocean anymore. once you rescind it through mexico and then arizona and that resouvior dries up then what? that'll be a poison pill for another generation to struggle with.
People dont realize we need to live for hundreds of thousands of years. Or they dont care which is sad.
@@LittleRainGames The thing is no one cares about what happens hundreds of thousands of years from now. Some people dont even care what happens within their very own lifetime as long they they dont have to deal with it for now
But I want a green lawn to play golf!!!!!!!
@@laurenz4528
*WASP whining intensifies*
Republicans are literally destroying the world.
That seems crazy to build there knowing full well they will run out of water.
Won't this problem solve itself as dry conditions force a choice between continued growth and green lawns?
It's a lot better to prevent the problem than to let it solve itself; since that "choice" won't be made until it's made for them in irreparable damage. CA like their almonds and they sure haven't made that "choice" while the towns literally sink from collapsed aquifers.
6:00 "kids can't run around on asphalt"... Literally every kid that grew up in a city like NY or Chicago for the past 150+ years managed to do it. That's how out of touch and selfish today's humans are.
I live in a mid level city and we do the same thing
When I was a kid in the '50s we didn't run around on asphalt. It was just plain concrete, bricks, and the roads weren't paved either cinders or crushed rock. Barefoot mostly; cinders were the worst as they cut like glass if you stepped on them wrong.
I will tell you how out of touch people are. In the Desert cement gets above 140 degrees. You can`t walk your dog on it. Walk across the street to see a neighbor and your shoes are covered in the hot asphalt and your prints are in the street forever. If you don't understand what people are talking about then why comment? This is the desert not New York City.
@@steveclay7821 "IN THE DESERT"... Glad you brought up, "out of touch people"-- people aren't scorpions so maybe they shouldn't be whining about the DESERT being HOT. Duh. It's a friggin desert. 😉
So, Utah kids cant play soccer on dirt, but CA kids can choke on dust...
anything to own the libs lol
@J G My local town is slowly being consumed by the rich cause they got kicked out of the bay area towns by the ultra-rich and the mid-income families like myself are being pushed towards the dirt towns Alex is speaking of...but California is a great place to visit not a great place to live in if you are mid-income or lower.
@J G I’ve lived in CA for 8 years now. I’m from Tennessee and have lived in the Midwest. If faced with a choice, I would choose to live in CA 100% of the time. There’s more to California than LA. There are shitty parts/issues in every state.
@J G I've travelled all over the USA and even to different parts of South America and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that the biggest shithole I've ever been to is San Francisco
That’s right
Guess there won't be anymore golf course after this year, lake Powell's at 25% level, I don't see making that pipe line anymore.
I would rather drink that water than have grass.
Nobody “needs” lawns or golf courses. Those are wants, not needs, and they are impractical things to want in a desert. If you want lots of green, move to Ohio or Georgia (or any other number of states with a humid climate). People have lived just fine in deserts for millennia without playing golf or surrounding homes with lawns.
Amen
It’s funny cause where I live you can see all the middle class or poor people changing to desert landscape but you step one foot in the country clubs and it’s like your in another world green grass for thousands of acres and huge waterfalls and lakes these people don’t give a rats ass
Don’t tell them to move to Ohio. We have enough dummies already.
ID LOVE to live in a desert, cos I live deserts - If I liked grass I would not live in a desert cos it would be f-king STUPID...!!!
This is what I've been saying for 20 years. If you want a green lawn, just stay in Indiana. Or Tennessee, or any of dozens of states where you can grow grass without draining a lake.
Alternate video title:
"Greed helps Utah desert golf courses look pretty"
Accurate
Half of Vice's video title's are ridiculously woke to the point that they are all ratio'd and generally hated on. Part of the reason why Vice has fallen off so badly and lost their educated viewers and all employees with integrity.
Too bad we can't pipe water from the wet east coast winters to the dry areas of the west. It would be a great seasonal money maker for the east coast.
@@checkedpizza182 ur the definition of white fragility
@@ad72644 I am glad your family is ashamed of you. Keep it up, big guy!
Oh my god. Green golf courses in the desert. And green lawns? What an utter frivolous waste of water. They want to take away water from others for that? The water's going to go and so is this desert town.
That’s insane!