Triumph TT Legend, "Reverse Purging Brakes" !
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2021
- The simple, quick way to purge/fill a completely empty hydraulic system !
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I nearly threw my phone at the wall! Spent hours recommission the brakes on my '81 GL1100 after a complete F&R strip down and new braided hoses. Defo gonna buy one of those, and spill free.
Spent 4 day's once trying to bleed a clutch think I nearly went insane 🙈 we certainly learn the hard way first lol..handy tool that del 👍
Yeah, we always learn the hard way aye, just as long as we learn though.!
@@Moonfleet41 exactly del
outstanding! love the silence.... demonstration mode. And full details at the end. Could have this this info prior!
Thank you for the lesson, Del! It's allways so cool to learn (and admire) the way you work! This bike is a piece of art!
Thank you so much Cedric, you are too kind.
That was just soooo calming 👏😁. And yet so very correct.
I must admit that on some bikes and cars (clutches mainly) I have left them to self bleed over night (air will eventually rise to the top with cap off).
Excellent video.
Delboy's work is always well organised and yup you learn a lot always.
That’s a good bit of kit, I have a smaller Version I use on my hydraulic brakes on the Mountain bike, it works every time, it’s a big saving if you can do it your self. Cheers Del ⚙️🔩🔧👍
Nice tip on the reverse purge, Del. Great video... thanks!
What a great build !! Going to be very fun and clean ride. Looking forward to more sir
Thanks Jon, im looking forward to it too mate 👍
Nice, i have changed the brake hoses many times and filled it manualy, i discovered a very fast simple way to get rid of the bubbles in no time, without pumpling the lever.
Thanks for the lesson!!!
@ 1-50, "Its not my bag man" :-) bike is looking amazing, truly outstanding work. Love it. :-)
You are an excellent teacher! Again I learned something new and helpful.
Thanks for sharing and the detailed explanation.
Excellent video work! God bless you.
Thank you Sir 😃, we're really glad you enjoyed the video.
Excellent Explanation good service why no comments while you were bleeding the brakes
I heard about this method, but never used it. Anyway, a fast solution and not expensive. Thanks for showing us, Del. Looking forward to the next steps on your to-do list.
Günter from Nürnberg
Glad you enjoyed it my friend
Ann Summers does a similar product in her catalogue. On a serious note what a great piece of kit. Great job Del 👍
It does ? So duel purpose then..lol! Thanks buddy, good to hear form you.
lol
I was working on it..what a timing...I learned a new way...thanks...the God is with us...🙏🛕🛕🛕🛕🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳jai hind..vandey materam...
Del!!! Youre an inspiration mate. If I had the room in my garage I'd have a project exactly like that. As for the brake bleeding, excellent yet again buddy.😎👍🏍
Thanks Nick, glad you're enjoying it, it's been a long road so far, but we're nearly there!
It's the best way to bleed a brake or clutch system but don't forget to move the calipers. Sometimes bubles are trapped in the pistons housings.
King of mechanics 😀
Great job my friend, greetings from Croatia.
Another great informative vid mate. Nice work. Bikes lookin mint.
Thanks mate. Much appreciated
Hi Delboy you always make little jobs look easy mate. Thats the first time I have seen purging a empty system impressed Del
Thanks Dean 👍, simple and effective aye, makes short work of an often challenging task.
Grate video as always. Really like your style and the in depth videos. Thank you allot!!
You're welcome and thank you for your kind feedback!
I bought (years ago) a pressure bleeder that pulled the fluid through but the one you have seems much better and simpler. Regards to you both.
Hi Richard, yes there have been a few trick "products".. but this is simple and effective aye.
My grandfather had a Vincent I have a photo of him sitting on it looking very pleased with himself- I wish the old bugger had handed it down to me!!
Grat instructional vid - Happy Friday mate!
Ah don't we always wish we kept them, but I guess back in those days, they weren't the icons they are today! A bit like Ford Escorts who would have thought they'd be worth so much years after they were every day cars!
The bike is really coming together. Absolutely beautiful. The only peeve I have after watching you over the years is I find myself subconsciously doing the pause and lift, like you do in many videos, as in this video with the socket wrench!
Thanks mate... what do you mean by pause and lift??
@@Moonfleet41 Just something you do (or perhaps Penny does in editing), where when you grab an item, such as a part, tool, can, etc., there is a slight pause. It's actually appreciated because it allows us time to see exactly what you're picking up.
@@kyle2109 Ah i see, yes it's for exactly that reason, just gives time for recognition if the item, something i picked up from Jimmy DeResta !
Great video del fantastic bit of kit will be looking at buying one stay safe both of you 🇬🇧👍
Thanks Richard, glad you approve.. link in the video. 👍
Fantastic video's, I really don't know anything about repairs, but slowly learning from watching , suppose just need that bit of confidence to have a go, carry on with the Fantastic information, thanks
Thanks Mark 👍, most welcome, am glad it helps!
I have one bought it last year a must have Dell👍👍
I’m getting one of them..👍🏻👍🏻 thanks Del.👍🏻
Cool mate 👍, link in the description!
Great video thanks from the north of spain....
Great video man, thanks!
I really like that unit. i made one with a syringe. it worked ok but was not careful and sort of blew some out the top reservoir. uggggh. was not paying attention. well you learn. i think i learned this process from you way back on another video. just a different apparatus. good stuff man. take care.
Thanks buddy, yes, have done various videos over the years, but you know how it is, new equipment on the market all the time, we just try and share and let everyone know what's out there to make easier!
Perfect timing Del, just about to bleed the rear brake on my venerable GL1100 after rebuilding the calliper. Next on the list is bleeding both front and rear systems on my 1977 Z1000 after rebuilding the master cylinders and callipers. I have in the past used a system that attached to the master cylinder and used the air reservoir from a tyre to force the brake fluid through supply lines. Worked pretty well to be honest, but the reverse system shown in your video seems to do the trick nicely. Decided to order one using your link. Ride safe sir.
Most welcome Michael, I've seen those gadgets too, you can force down or up, it doesn't matter, but in both cases there will always be a little air trapped and the benefit of this syringe is that it can safely draw the contents of the reservoir back out in order to empty it and you can force it back in the bottom end again to get a better and more solid feel... and it was a real value purchase at just a shade over £20.
Only problem with using a system to force the fluid from the master cylinder is you need a cap to fit. In the past when I used this method I had an old master cylinder cap which I drilled to accept the nipple. With the reverse method all you do is connect up to the calliper nipple. Just received confirmation of my order for the tool.
@@michaeljohnson-li5nn That's good news Michael, assuming it was Spanner Monkey from the link they'll have it under way in the morning, and you should get it promptly.. a tiny tip that may help you when you come to do it, try wrapping a couple of turns of plumbers tape around the nipple first as it will make a better seal that then won't leak any fluid as you force it in, you will notice you need a fair bit of force, and the plumbers tape stops anything weeping out or air getting drawn in... Good luck with it and let us know how it goes.. Del.
awesome video brother, i really need that tool, seems a must for dry systems . hopefully they woud have something similar here in the states . bike is looking better and better . stay safe guys cheers from new york !!!!!!
Hey brother, great to hear from you, if you need one, then the link is in the description, and the guys at Spanner Monkey can get one shipped over to you, no problem! It's at least worth a try if you can't find anything there... have a great weekend both, stay safe, D&Px
you just make everything look so easy👍
Brilliant , so helpful. Thanks del.
Glad it was helpful mate.. good luck with it
thanks for taking the time to reply to my query much appreciated
Must get one of them.
White shows the classic lines of a triumph tank,my favorite colour in a triumph
Thanks mate, a link in the description if you fancy one.
Bleeding ek Del nearly done cant wait to hear it roar!
Thanks Marc, not long now aye, lots of little steps and suddenly you're there!
I used a home made syringe approach to my systems as well last winter. Worked very will I agree. The front brake would have bled even faster if I would have noticed sooner that the lever was adjusted all the way close to the bar. Haha. Live and learn but that was pretty dumb haha. All the best.
Hey brother, we learn by every one of these mistakes, and as long as we test ride carefully and make sure it's safe, they are priceless lessons that will save us even more money!
I was waiting for this. Did not disappoint.
I was dreading having to bleed my brakes, but not now!!. Thanks for the video.
Most welcome mate, treat yourself to the syringe and I guarantee you'll use it every time you need to address your brakes!
God bless
Interesting. I’m about to refill my Honda front brake system after a Master Cylinder rebuild. I think I’ll try purging and refilling from the caliper as you did. Can but try.
I read this on another CZcams video on if your bike has ABS: "the abs block cannot have contaminants get into it and there are contaminants that get into the brake line and they make their way down to the caliper just because the contaminants are heavier and they make their way to the farthest point in the system the lowest point in the system." So I think on a bike w/ABS that needs a fluid change, a conventional Purge first would be a good idea.
Fair point mate, but it's worth remembering that water content builds up in the reservior through the vent holes in the cap, and that water eventually leads to corrosion in the master cylinder, you wouldn't want to push that down through the ABS pump, so there are contaminants in both ends, making that practice largely irrelavant, just flush enough fluid through the system to wash it all out..!
@@Moonfleet41 Well said, which is why you also want to suck out or absorb out the reservoir and wipe it clean first.
Cool Vincent shirt! Perhaps a Black Shadow in the shop soon?
I wish..!
Pretty cool, Del. Reminds of the time a young lady held up a device similar to yours and mumbled something about a reverse, ummm, oh wait, never mind. 😬
Hope you both are doing well and staying safe. 🏍👍🏍
Hi Gary, yeah, it does look a bit suspect aye ! have a great weekend and keep safe..D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 yessir. 😜
Great procedures 👍.
FYI,, the local Triumph/ Euro bike dealer in Las Vegas (service dep.) is currently charging
💥$148 per hour 💥!
🤦♂️Yikes... that's why we DIY friends.. Have a great weekend 🍻. G.
Oh my goodness, how do they think they are, a Bentley dealer! That's ridiculous... and probably the exact reason why bike owners are being driven to deal with their own maintenance, they are slowly pricing themselves out of the market, there is no justification for this kind of extortion when the technician who actually carries out the work probably earns little more than $30 per hour, just do the math, somebody's getting rich.
@@Moonfleet41 ,,
I agree 💯🤦♂️. Almost stained myself 😅 when I saw that. These elitist bike owners obviously have more money than common sense.
And the staging area was full of bikes waiting...🤷♂️ unbelievable.
Excellent as always Dell Really great top tip
Thanks mate. Glad you enjoyed it
Handy bit of kit that syringe, a bit more robust than the 100mil one I got off the internet for £5.00 last year , reverse bleeding is defiantly the way to go for dry lines and speed .
Fastest bleeding I have ever seen. I'm sold on it.
Nice video Del & Penny. Great job mate, it's all coming together. Penny and you have a great weekend. hope things are going well over your side of the pond. Going well this side,but getting less sunshine now :( Take care. Cheers
Yes mate, slow steps going forward, we try to dodge most of the time and keep safe, but slowly things are getting better here, even been out for a few bike rides now full lockdown is over, what a strange 18 months it's been, glad to hear thigns are improving there too, stay safe and enjoy the sunshine!
Good method🥰
Brill vid as always 🤩
Cheers, Del. Another good vid! At the start, instead of taking the time to write the words, 'Fill And Bleed' (4 times), 'Fit And Wire Rear' (twice), and 'Fit' (4 times), you could have just put " " " 3 times, " " " " once and " 3 times, underneath! Just saying. :o) I must admit, when I saw that 'inspection syringe', I thought penny had been shopping in Ann Summers, for you? lol If we ever meet, I owe ya a couple of pints, for all the great vid's you make! Cheers!
Another great tutorial mate is it the same method for a bike with abs bike looks fantastic needs putting in a case for looking at too good to ride on our roads lol all the best mate untill the next one take care
Hi Paul, same procedure for ABS, and if you're in any doubt, grab yourself a manual and it will all be laid out in there...! Thanks for the kind words on the Triumph, back on it, next video!
I have this job waiting for me when I get home. However, it's complicated by my brakes being linked so having to bleed through a proportioning valve etc. Going to try this reverse method.
Hey Del,great vid as always! Quick question, I'm about to do my Speed 4 system (over the mudguard from rh cal to lh) would you start from the nearest caliper to the m/cyl, or furthest away? (L.Hand)Had to put a new hose from m/cyl to rh caliper (raised bars).
Same question, Bandit 1250, did you get an answer?
I would have done as much as possible before paint was bolted on... but you nailed it
You can also use DIY set: get a 100ml syringe from pharmacy and a proper diameter hose (5mm, from any car parts store). Total cost 1-2 euro. Cheers!
Yes, but be sure to throw it away after as brake fluid rots the seals on domestic syringes
Hi Del, if the bike has abs, would that alter anything in the method you used here ? Thank you. John.
No John, it's just the same, this is method carried out at Harley dealerships when they fit ape hangers which means a longer brake line... just don't switch the ignition on when the bike is in bits (but then you wouldn't do that anyway).
Hello my friend I'll have a question. when you replace the brake fluid how he does it on the abs block thank you
Like that 👍🏼
IT WORKED!!!!!!😃
You have a great channel,,,I do my brakes this way as well,,,I seem to be missing something though,,,,when I use the syringe to push the fluid through and the master cylinder is then filled, do I close the the bleeder then light pump the brake to build pressure? OR once its filled open and close the bleeder while pumping the brakes? I seem to have a hard time building pressure and feel Im just missing one small thing,,,,TY
It's not anything you're doing buddy.. it can be tricky. once you fill from the bottom like this, it can help to just bleed down a few pumps in the old regular conventional way to get any small air bubbles out that may have dragged in up the side of the bled valve thread while it was open... then close it off and you should have a firm lever.... you can tape it in over night too which will also improve it.!
@@Moonfleet41 TY, one more question, I have a shadow sabre vt1100, I rebuilt the front brake caliper, cleaned pistons, greased moving arms, it looks great, I put new sintered pads in, the wheel moves pretty free on the jack so its not impeded, but there appears to be some scraping when I apply the brake hard, I only have 5 miles on these pads, is this just an issue where the pads need to bed in over the course of a few hundred miles and these are normal sounds or is there something perhaps I did wrong and should re-check? TY again for all your hard work
Awesome videos and series. Have a '95 thunderbird so have been anxiously waiting every week for your videos. Thanks for the excellent education. 7:04. "take that lever in overnight". Do you zip tie it to the handle and does this let more air bubbles find their way up?
Hi John, great to hear from you, and thanks for your kind words... I think I said 'tape' the lever in, so yes, the idea is that pulling the lever in and fixing it there pressurises the system, shrinks the bubbles to a fraction of their size and over the course of time, usually overnight, they will drift up to the top and out in to the resevoir... then in the morning, rip the tape off, pump the lever a few times and you'll notice it's rock solid!
Nice and easy👌👌👌👍👍🏍🏍🏍🏍🍺🍺🍺....
Thanks for the video, Delboy!
I have a question: I'm approaching a change of brake line on my Keeway K-light 125 as I need a longer hose to install mini apes.
My bike has combined brake system (CBS) So there's two bleed valves on the front caliper. Do I need to bleed both or can I just bleed the one line that goes from master cylinder to the caliper and leave the rest of the system be?
Thanks!
Where is it 'combined' to mate?.. rear caliper, or is it ABS?, are there two front calipers, are they piggyback linked?.. more info would help mate !
@@Moonfleet41 thanks for the reply!
So it's not abs, it's cbs
There is only one caliper per brake. The front brake has one hose that goes from the pump to the caliper and another one that goes from a caliper to what I believe is a switch? And then to the brake line. Same deal with the brake line. One caliper, two hoses. Each caliper has two bleeding nipples, one on the top and another in the middle
@@Uncle_Tijikun I'd need to see this to be exact..but from what you're describing are the two caliper linked? does the secondary hose run between the two calipers front and back then ?
@@Moonfleet41 no the secondary hoses are connected to a third apparatus that I'm told it's used to modulate the amount of braking that gets combined.
I'm aware it's not the best explanation, apologies 🤣
i spent the better part of my day trying bleed my front brakes and all i get is a very spongy feel at best, they do grab though.. im hoping the reverse bleed works. i rebuilt the master cylinder, rebuilt the caliper, new pads and steel braided lines.
It certainly should mate, it's a simply principle of physics that air will always rise in a liquid, so forcing up to the top simply helps it along!
Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
I get fluid up to the master cylinder but it stops there. Nothing gets into the reservoir ,,any ideas?
Same technique is used on hydraulic bicycle brakes. (only there's no reservoir which makes it a bit more of a pain)...
Nice one del 👍
I knew there was something out there and you have found it for me.
RD rear brake is a bleeding Nightmare.
Thanks Tim, glad it helped, have a great weekend mate!
good on ya mate!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice way of doing it
I tried revers bleeding on my triumph but the break fluid will not go up into the master cylinder. Any advice would be good. Tia
You don't say which Triumph, but if it's the same as this bike, Try slowly working the lever in and out while pushing the fluid.. two person job obviously, but that should help open the valve in the master cylinder.!
No ! you have to pour the dot4 all over your new paint , the floor , the ceiling and your best dancing trousers! it's the law ! ... peas and loaf brother D and sister P 👍🏻☮❤🤗❤❤❤❤❤
Ha ha, Challenge accepted brother.
Does it work with ABS (Yamaha FJR)?
Hi Del, you mentioned to clamp the brake lever on, over night, is that with or without the resivoir lid fastened? I’ll be having a go at bleeding my k7 750 soon so any tips would be greatly received mate.
Hi buddy, always with the lid on if it's overnight, remember we leave the cap on the bottle it came from so the fluid doesn't absorb moisture from the air, that includes your master cylinder too... so seal it up before you pull the lever in... you will notice a great improvement! Let us know how you get on...
I'm going to buy one of those bad boys...... To bleed my back brakes on my Harley Davidson sportster. I take the broom handle stick to the brake pedal And pumped it with one hand and loosen the valve with the other hand to bleed the break......
Curious... did you prefer this method over the way you did it with the Busa?
Both ways work for the front, but the rear needs some help as its horizontal.
One comment mentioned duel bleeding… finally gave me straight answer.. do left, then right… it is challenging get it 100% bleed out… doing other way.. I’m olde school, hates new changes in the system. Learned a lot simpler way you shown!! Awesome!!
GROAN!! More tools to purchase!! Lol 😂 thank goodness at least cheap tool!
Yep, depends on how they are routed, some go from Brake master to Brake Caliper to Brake Caliper, some have the split before the first Brake Caliper in like a Y.
wobbly sauce: dead right, the current Triumph adventure bikes run that tandem system with the left caliper piggy backed off the right, and that's even easier to bleed, just push it all in to the left caliper, it goes straight to the master cylinder via the right caliper!
@@Moonfleet41 That it is, surprising how well holding the brake lever in overnight works, and come back in to see the fluid level has dropped.
(P) Nice one guys. Easy with the right tools, I’ve got a syringe, not as big as yours though 🤣
Thanks mate..👍 if yer gonna have one, have a big one aye.
As we say in the south... "dat bike is PURDY!!!"
I like that, just gitt'n er done. !
😎👍
Great vid but I’m still having problems!! I’ve got the bleed nipple open and pushing as hard as I can on the syringe but the fluid doesn’t seem to be going in the caliper? Almost like the nipple isn’t undone.. but it is.. master cylinder cap off so not that.. any help please. Paul
Hi Paul.. can't diagnose this without seeing it really mate.. you didn't say what bike it is, is it ABS, had it got self bleeder valves (they have a one way flow lock) is it a linked system mate..!! and does it bleed downwards in the conventional way..(just to check if there's a blockage..?)
In my opinion best project you have done Dell ,like the finished look. Do you still have the street fighter ,the Hog,and the Hayabusa ?
Thank you very much mate, that's very kind... am enjoying the build and it's great to be turning out a great result. Sadly we have to sell the bikes when they're finished to fund the next build, as we will with this one, but did manage to hang on to the Hayabusa, and enjoying riding it whenever I get a chance!
How is this done if you have 2 individual front brake lines? Seems like you might need to occassionally siphon off some fluid from the reservoir when doung the 2nd line.
Not quite Thomas, fill the left side first, then the second you see fluid emerge in the bottom of the reservoir, STOP.. then switch to the right side, and as you fill it, you'll see bubbles foam up through the bottom as the air is forced up the right hose.. then as soon as the air bubbles stop, the fluid will fill...and you're done. !
@@Moonfleet41 …. THANK YOU!!! An answer I’m waiting for!!! I was frustrated with mine!! Lol.. need get me one those tool!! ..Groan… more tools!!
@@Goldwing1500rider Good plan, I left a link in the description to the syringe, and they will be happy to ship to you, no problem!
@@Moonfleet41 Got it. Makes perfect sense. Great video and tech tip, thanks
Getting ready close Del
just wondering how you would use this method of reverse bleeding with twin brakes on the front 🤔🤔
Start with the left, then the moment you see fluid emerge in the bottom of the reservoir, lock it off, and switch to the right. You'll see bubbles for a while as the air from the right hose is pushed out, then the rez will fill, and you're done. !
It's Bike 🏍️ Life Del . But not as We know it .... 🛸
Are you suppoused to use a crush washer between the caliper and banjo bolt or just the bolt head and banjo bolt. Something thats really confusing me becuase most videos I watch I dont see one
Perhaps you didn't spot them, but believe me in every banjo union I put a copper washer either side of it.
@@Moonfleet41 cool thank you
Cracking video as always mate
I am changing my lines on my pitbike build.
Please keep up the great videos.
Stay safe mate
Thanks 👍, will do!
You should visit us with it down in Christchurch Del!
Hi Alex, are you working at the new place now mate ?
@@Moonfleet41 Yes mate! i've been there for a week now, it's like a Triumph cathedral
@@alexphillips8387 Nice one mate, I've got the StreetGlide I bought from Paddy a couple of weeks ago, so will pop over for a visit at some point and say Hi! Not sure if I'll get to ride the Legend over as it looks like it will be sold straight away, got people already trying to buy it... have a peaceful Sunday mate.
@@Moonfleet41 I saw the picture actually, nice bike! Got some touring planned?
@@alexphillips8387 Not so much touring unless you cont long days out down the West Country, never get time to actually go away, You Tube keeps us pinned to the wall!
That rear fender..it's toooooooo BIG..the man is top with the right words
Never touch an Artist's work!!!
You mean the mechanic's on the clock but your bill isn't' :)
Exactly, so he's not gonna waste time he's not gonna get paid for!
and this works on any bike yes??
Pretty much, you just need to adapt the process so you follow the right path with bikes that have split, or linked, brakes.
that's more money you are costing me 🤣
Gotta get me one of them 👍👍
Good purchase mate, link below the video.