Master class Cliff. I learned something. I've always struggled with tapered tips like those...I was doing it wrong. You are one heck of a builder buddy.
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes weighing down the wing and working on it hanging of the side. I normally try and do it handed and burn myself lol. Honesty your videos are really helpful for all, no matter how experienced you are!.
I too had made a comment and a comment from Gary on the Stick & Tissue Club because I said real modelers build their own airplane and pretenders go out and buy one. He got all negetive on me and we had a bit of a texting scrap for 30 minutes on FaceBook. Testy Chap he was! Nice clean covering job on the top wing, Cliff! I'm learning watching you. "CHEERS!"
Hi Richard, you have to be careful what you say in public! Sometimes though the 'pretenders' end up doing 'real' modelling so it's all good in the end, cheers 👍
Cliff out here watching in you make it look so easy and straight forward it's not for the rest of us yes dive in you will get better amazing stuff sir that is what I'm saying cheers 🥂
Thanks for the masterclass Cliff. I saved this one for bedtime (12.30 am here in Turkey). A cup of drinking chocolate, the relaxing music and your gentle easygoing approach will send me to sleep as soon as I hit the pillow! Although there are lots of videos on covering, hardly any spend time on tackling the compound curves on the wing tips. My first build was a Piper Cub and I struggled with the wing tips but got there in the end. Will be tackling the concave curves on the fuselage of my Seagull P47 when I get home to the UK at the end of the month. Please carry on with the tutorials Cliff as I am sure many would be builders are worried about tackling various parts of the build.
This video answers the question I had but didn’t ask whilst watching the last one! Thank you! I’m getting ready to cover a Guillows P-40 model with heat shrink- my first heat shrink covering. Thank you for doing this!
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes MonoKote is what I picked up at the hobby shop. I’m waiting for the iron to show up- it was backordered. Is the concern that it will break the structure of the wing or that it’ll be too heavy to fly well? New to this hobby but really enjoying it so far. Your videos have been very helpful and entertaining. Thank you again.
@@benjaminwinn8899 Hi Ben, not so much 'break' the structure, just add more weight than is necessary. A lot of manufaturers offer a 'lite' version for lightweight models, it'll be ok.
Very informative. Thank you for the videos. I prefer more Monokote or material available to pull for a better grip. More waste, but easier to pull and less chances to burn fingers on the hot iron...
Cliff..outstanding instruction. and now for my humble opinion....I covered my very first balsa built plane with tissue...and dope. The noise the wood made as the dope was working its magic was horrifying >>I was waiting for the wings to explode. Aside from uneven cutting of the tissue...it turned out pretty darn good. It made the whole experience of building the plane just that more special to see what I had accomplished. Then came along the solar papers, coverings etc....The job got a little easier. Each new plane i covered got better and better. I must say, I have never run accross anyone who said "I will not build a plane, because I am afraid to cover it. PLEASE..anyone who has not built a plane yet...do not be afraid to cover..there are tons of Videos showing how to. Will it be perfect? Heck no.....It could even look really bad....but I can promise you.....the next will always be better. GO FOR IT!
That was a helpful refresher before recovering a damaged wing. Particularly the iron temp. Most other videos and even the manufacturers advice sheet can be a bit vague on that aspect. Thanks Cliff
Many thanks for this video Cliff - I have never used iron-on covering and you have gone into a lot of detail; especially with the wing tips. Cheers.....Jim
There is a shortage of covering irons currently in the US. Some are buying easily available small, heat-adjustable, "travel irons" which work well. Keep a good supply of sharp knife blades, they dull quickly cutting mylar covering materials. Good sharp scissors with clean blades are needed for cutting covering material. Making cutting patterns from Manila folder material can be helpful avoiding mistakes and waste of covering material.
Somebody else said there was a shortage, all those lost sales! Yes, I used to use a travel iron years ago and, as you say, they work just as well except a little heavier. It's amazing how quickly the blades dull isn't it, I'm not sure why that should be. The scissors I used I found in my wife's sewing drawer, I'll have to sneak them back before she spots the video! Paper patterns, yes, excellent idea 👍
Thanks Cliff for sharing your experience ... Your video is one of my covering notes reference. I am currently covering a 3 m wingspan balsa glider and like most of us need to improve my skill, thanks to you. I noticed the scapel is not always the best, very standard old fashion razor blades broken in 2 are extremely efficient to arase thin borders, it glides perfect and the cut is net (ie your vid at 15:20)
Hi Rien, this covering is called 'Oratex', it's got a nice fabric finish to it and goes on very nicely, are you building the DW kit as well? www.oracover.de/fabric/oratex/1
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes Hi Cliff, thanks for the link (oracover fabric). And yes, I'm building the DW kit from the very nice wooden box it came in! I did build DW kits before and they are very precise (love it!) but I do miss a step-by-step building plan. Your video's fill this gap...
@@daviddou1408 I noticed that Cliff used white 'Solartex' in this video. I watched the whole video... For the Fokker DR-1 he advised me to use 'Oratex'. This comes in the color 'Fokker Red' and has a nice fabric look, just what I need for this model. So I did listen and watched the whole video (36 minutes!) Why are you so agressive?!?
@@daviddou1408 Hi David, fair enough, I know it can be frustrating but I don't mind answering questions that are already answered, dialogue is good (and can lead to deeper online friendships). Sometimes viewers ask things that I hadn't considered important but are relevant to their problem and I can try and tackle in a following video. It goes really deep actually I could go on and on, have a good day ☺
A very interesting and informative video. I've never used film I've been too scared to use it. One thing that you didn't cover was why you didn't use coloured film. I'd have thought that it would have been better as it kept the weight down and you don't have to paint it afterwards. Please could you explain your reasoning?
Hi Tony, thanks for watching and a very good question however there is a reason I covered it in opaque fabric and that was because I hadn't decided what colour scheme the model would be finished in so I wanted a neutral base 👍
Cliff, if it were dihedral wing, would you still use the same technique as in your video above? Covering each wing separately and then joining? Many thanks Geoff.
It depends Geoff, if the wings were separate entities after they're finished then separate but if they need to be joined together as a one piece wing (with a dihedral brace glued in) then you would need to cover the wing a half at a time 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes I notice you seem to have used a white or translucent. Which one specifically did you use? is it "Natural", "White" or maybe "Antique"?
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes how is weight of oratex compared to regular covering like ultrakote? i am restoring a plane with an old painted textile and i am considering change the covering with ultracote but since i have not done any wing covering before i wonder if it is even worth it. tks
Master class Cliff. I learned something. I've always struggled with tapered tips like those...I was doing it wrong. You are one heck of a builder buddy.
We all keep learning all the time Adam, there's lots I don't know that's why I watch CZcams videos as well as make them, cheers 😁👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes couldn't agree more Cliff!
Been covering models for 30 years and still learnt something! Thanks for making and sharing.
Hi Mike, thanks for that, I wonder what it was? 👍🏻
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes weighing down the wing and working on it hanging of the side. I normally try and do it handed and burn myself lol.
Honesty your videos are really helpful for all, no matter how experienced you are!.
Thank you for teaching me this
My pleasure John 😊
I too had made a comment and a comment from Gary on the Stick & Tissue Club because I said real modelers build their own airplane and pretenders go out and buy one. He got all negetive on me and we had a bit of a texting scrap for 30 minutes on FaceBook. Testy Chap he was! Nice clean covering job on the top wing, Cliff! I'm learning watching you. "CHEERS!"
Hi Richard, you have to be careful what you say in public! Sometimes though the 'pretenders' end up doing 'real' modelling so it's all good in the end, cheers 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes That was my push, Cliff. To get them angry enough to do it themselves.
Nice to watch a pro,thanks Cliff.
Hi Dan, I think you've commented on the wrong video 😁👍
Cliff out here watching in you make it look so easy and straight forward it's not for the rest of us yes dive in you will get better amazing stuff sir that is what I'm saying cheers 🥂
Thanks FB cheers 👍
Thanks for the masterclass Cliff. I saved this one for bedtime (12.30 am here in Turkey). A cup of drinking chocolate, the relaxing music and your gentle easygoing approach will send me to sleep as soon as I hit the pillow! Although there are lots of videos on covering, hardly any spend time on tackling the compound curves on the wing tips. My first build was a Piper Cub and I struggled with the wing tips but got there in the end. Will be tackling the concave curves on the fuselage of my Seagull P47 when I get home to the UK at the end of the month. Please carry on with the tutorials Cliff as I am sure many would be builders are worried about tackling various parts of the build.
Hi Ian, I find a cup of chocolate sends me off pretty quickly as well especially when I'm talking yo myself. I hope you didn't drop off too quickly 👍😁
Thanks Cliff!
Hi Zolar, cheers 👍
This video answers the question I had but didn’t ask whilst watching the last one! Thank you! I’m getting ready to cover a Guillows P-40 model with heat shrink- my first heat shrink covering. Thank you for doing this!
Go carefully Ben and you'll be ok, be aware a Guillows is a much lighter structure, are you using one of the 'lite' coverings?
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes MonoKote is what I picked up at the hobby shop. I’m waiting for the iron to show up- it was backordered. Is the concern that it will break the structure of the wing or that it’ll be too heavy to fly well? New to this hobby but really enjoying it so far. Your videos have been very helpful and entertaining. Thank you again.
@@benjaminwinn8899 Hi Ben, not so much 'break' the structure, just add more weight than is necessary. A lot of manufaturers offer a 'lite' version for lightweight models, it'll be ok.
Very informative. Thank you for the videos. I prefer more Monokote or material available to pull for a better grip. More waste, but easier to pull and less chances to burn fingers on the hot iron...
I agree Guy but if I was to stand any chance of getting the complete build out of six metres I had to be frugel, cheers 👍
Did great work
Thanks Yogenh 👍
Great stuff Cliff, I am sure this video will help me one day when I start my balsa build that I am hiding from 😎
This covering would be way to heavy if you're talking about the Antoinette Chris, cheers
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes yup she has some thin stuff 👍🏻
Cliff..outstanding instruction. and now for my humble opinion....I covered my very first balsa built plane with tissue...and dope. The noise the wood made as the dope was working its magic was horrifying >>I was waiting for the wings to explode. Aside from uneven cutting of the tissue...it turned out pretty darn good. It made the whole experience of building the plane just that more special to see what I had accomplished. Then came along the solar papers, coverings etc....The job got a little easier. Each new plane i covered got better and better. I must say, I have never run accross anyone who said "I will not build a plane, because I am afraid to cover it. PLEASE..anyone who has not built a plane yet...do not be afraid to cover..there are tons of Videos showing how to. Will it be perfect? Heck no.....It could even look really bad....but I can promise you.....the next will always be better. GO FOR IT!
Thanks Lawrence, great story, great inspiration 👍
That was a helpful refresher before recovering a damaged wing. Particularly the iron temp. Most other videos and even the manufacturers advice sheet can be a bit vague on that aspect.
Thanks Cliff
Different films react to different temperatures Rob, but if it's not sticking turn it up, if it's melting turn it down! You soon find a happy place 👍
Looking great Cliff 🔥👍 ✌️
Cheers Erric 🙂
Fantastic. Clarity and skill. Superb and Cliff, you seem like a very decent person too.
Hi Geoff, thanks, you're a good judge of character, it takes one to know one 😁👍
I dont care what everyone says... you do nice work lol
On my school reports it used to say 'could do better' 😁👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes👍👍
This is perfect for my 1/6th SIG Clipped Wing Cub, you really helped with my first ever Kit build, thank you Cliff
Cheers Jeff, just sharing some knowledge, the rest is up to you 👍
There may be other videos out there on covering - but this one is a Cliff Harvey video!
Thanks again Tim 👍
Many thanks for this video Cliff - I have never used iron-on covering and you have gone into a lot of detail; especially with the wing tips.
Cheers.....Jim
You're welcome Jim, all it takes is a small amount of practice and a dollop of confidence and away you go, cheers for the comment 👍
There is a shortage of covering irons currently in the US. Some are buying easily available small, heat-adjustable, "travel irons" which work well.
Keep a good supply of sharp knife blades, they dull quickly cutting mylar covering materials. Good sharp scissors with clean blades are needed for cutting covering material. Making cutting patterns from Manila folder material can be helpful avoiding mistakes and waste of covering material.
Somebody else said there was a shortage, all those lost sales! Yes, I used to use a travel iron years ago and, as you say, they work just as well except a little heavier. It's amazing how quickly the blades dull isn't it, I'm not sure why that should be. The scissors I used I found in my wife's sewing drawer, I'll have to sneak them back before she spots the video! Paper patterns, yes, excellent idea 👍
Thanks Cliff for sharing your experience ... Your video is one of my covering notes reference. I am currently covering a 3 m wingspan balsa glider and like most of us need to improve my skill, thanks to you. I noticed the scapel is not always the best, very standard old fashion razor blades broken in 2 are extremely efficient to arase thin borders, it glides perfect and the cut is net (ie your vid at 15:20)
Thanks Jean, you never stop picking up tips in life, cheers 👍
Have my spun aluminum cowl sitting in a bowl of ammonia to prep it for paint. Hope it doesn't vanish!
I've no experience with ammonia Dan, will that do the job well enough for the paint to stick?
Nicely done ☑️
Thank you 👍
Great video Cliff! I have to try this in a Guillows Piper Cub y have sitting on a shelf waiting for the covering
You should Osvaldo, if it's not up to scratch just heat the glue up and take it off, then try again, cheers 👍
What kind of covering is that it sounds like it gives you a fabric covering look
Hi Yogenh, yes, feels really fabricky, www.oracover.de/fabric/oratex/1, cheers 👍
Hello Cliff,
What kind of covering are you using?
I'm building my 3rd DR-1 now but this one is the biggest I ever built. (1.54m wingspan, great kit)
Hi Rien, this covering is called 'Oratex', it's got a nice fabric finish to it and goes on very nicely, are you building the DW kit as well? www.oracover.de/fabric/oratex/1
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes Hi Cliff, thanks for the link (oracover fabric).
And yes, I'm building the DW kit from the very nice wooden box it came in!
I did build DW kits before and they are very precise (love it!) but I do miss a step-by-step building plan.
Your video's fill this gap...
@@daviddou1408 I noticed that Cliff used white 'Solartex' in this video. I watched the whole video...
For the Fokker DR-1 he advised me to use 'Oratex'. This comes in the color 'Fokker Red' and has a nice fabric look, just what I need for this model.
So I did listen and watched the whole video (36 minutes!)
Why are you so agressive?!?
@@daviddou1408 David, please be more considerate in your comments, you are coming over a tad aggressive 😐
@@daviddou1408 Hi David, fair enough, I know it can be frustrating but I don't mind answering questions that are already answered, dialogue is good (and can lead to deeper online friendships). Sometimes viewers ask things that I hadn't considered important but are relevant to their problem and I can try and tackle in a following video. It goes really deep actually I could go on and on, have a good day ☺
A very interesting and informative video. I've never used film I've been too scared to use it. One thing that you didn't cover was why you didn't use coloured film. I'd have thought that it would have been better as it kept the weight down and you don't have to paint it afterwards. Please could you explain your reasoning?
Hi Tony, thanks for watching and a very good question however there is a reason I covered it in opaque fabric and that was because I hadn't decided what colour scheme the model would be finished in so I wanted a neutral base 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes That makes sense, thanks for replying.
Cliff, if it were dihedral wing, would you still use the same technique as in your video above? Covering each wing separately and then joining? Many thanks Geoff.
It depends Geoff, if the wings were separate entities after they're finished then separate but if they need to be joined together as a one piece wing (with a dihedral brace glued in) then you would need to cover the wing a half at a time 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes Spot on, thanks Cliff. Appreciate!
Could you post a link to the specific film you used Cliff?
Hi Tim, this is the stuff, but lots of places stock it: www.oracover.de/fabric/oratex/1, cheers 👍
@@daviddou1408 Yes I know he said Oratex, but they make many different coverings. I was interested in the specific one. Thanks Cliff!
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes I notice you seem to have used a white or translucent. Which one specifically did you use? is it "Natural", "White" or maybe "Antique"?
@@timtheplaneman Hi Tim, it was natural, although I did use some left over white on the tailplane to eek it out a bit.
@@daviddou1408 Thanks for answering David, l should have made it a little more obvious, cheers 👍
Do you treat the bare balsa (with dope, etc.) prior to heat-shrink covering??
Hi Klaatu, great question, no treatment is necessary just a thorough sanding is enough, cheers
cliff i just got an airplane kit (cute girl) is the plastic included a heat shrink type or should i get another type?
Hi Steve, it will be the heatshrink type yes 👍
what is name of covering you are using? tks
Oratex Alex I think 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes tks
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes how is weight of oratex compared to regular covering like ultrakote? i am restoring a plane with an old painted textile and i am considering change the covering with ultracote but since i have not done any wing covering before i wonder if it is even worth it. tks
@@alexherrera3918Probably not much in it I wouldn't have thought. The Dr.1 has so much wing area a few extra ounces doesn't matter much 🤔👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes ok tks!!
شما بال را به چیز کاور کردید ممنون میشم جواب بدهید
You're welcome Yasin 🙂👍