Taco Moto GET SX1 ECU / The Best Honda CRF450RL ECU Yet / Tame That Twitchy Throttle!
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- Taco Mike installed their new GET SX1 ECU in my Honda CRF450L and I can see why Team Honda is using them to win everything moto. Buttery smooth throttle, tons of extra torque, as stall resistant as possible; plus it's programable thru the GET App. Pinch me!
For more info on the Taco Moto GET SX1 ECU please visit Taco Moto's website - tacomoto.co/co...
When you said you were still going to do CRF450RL content after getting the KTM you weren't kidding. Thanks man!
Of course!
@@JohnTYoung John: Are you okay? Haven't seen any new vids and am a little concerned. Hope all is well.
Mike and his GET ECU Maps for the big KTM dirt bikes are legend. I have been running Mike's maps on my GET ECU for almost a year now on my 23 KTM 500 Exc-f. I also got the Traction Control knob (cheating), the ECU Map switch (1or2) and wifi module. Yes, the software runs very well on my Samsung S22 Android. Mike quickly responded to any questions I had and helped me understand some error codes unrelated to the GET. I live and ride near sea level on Vancouver Island and often ride high into the mountain trails well inland (Nelson, BC). The GET ECU has been flawless. On Map 2, the Enduro Map (Old Man map!), the 500 is very controllable in the bush, never flames out and still has tons of torque. On Map 1, Mikes Open Desert Racemap, the KTM 500 is a monster. Map 1 and TC on low are tons of fun but can tire me out after a few hours, as full race and TC off require constant attention, at least at my skill level. Map 2 and TC >5 is still tons of fun and is great for also enjoying the scenery and riding with others.
If you are going to be running in Baja or anywhere, the quality of gas could be a concern. Mike also has a bad gas map that you can have on our phone and install at any time (if you have the Wi-Fi module) on your GET ECU. You can load the bad gas map on Map 2 and switch it on and off as required. Or pull it out of the ECU and reload Mikes's maps until the next time it is required.
Mike doesn't quit till it's perfect. He ought to work for KTM!
Great review John. I recently received the new SX1 from TacoMoto and I agree 100% with your assessment. The GET SX1 is the creme da la creme of ECU’s! And I’ve owned and three brands! And all you can do with the app is bonkers…
Right on!
Nice to see that you still have the 450L. I bought mine because of you. I regret nothing!
Me either! Itsa great moto!!
Been watching your ecu videos the last couple days trying to decide which to get for my ‘21 450RL.
This might have sealed the deal.
Appreciate all your efforts and sharing your experiences.
Save myself and others some time and money.
🏍️💨
Yes, it is for sure a game changer. Thanks for watching Luke
I did the same. Watching the same videos for months lol. I switched from vortex back to stock then to get. The get is straight up nasty good. The power is incredible and the map 2 Enduro mode is amazing. Aside from the power the fuel economy is so damn good compared to a vortex. I was getting 26-34 mpg with vortex and now I'm at 50-58 with get
@@SuperiorTim989that’s awesome to hear. Congrats.
I’m finally able to purchase it and can’t wait.
One quick question for you. What pipe did you get or using stock?
Thanks
@@lukefish7562 i have a 450x full exhaust. Only a couple pounds lighter but flows alot better then stock. You can feel the difference when putting your hand behind the exhaust. I had a yoshimura but hated drone noise on the road. I was able to score a used 450x exhaust on eBay for 250$
@@SuperiorTim989 hey thanks for responding Tim. I’ve been texting Taco Moto Mike the last week trying to figure out if I was going to stick with stock exhaust or not. I of course want to get Graves or Yoshi but don’t know of if I can afford it right now.
Was thinking about the yoshi but just unsure and now your experience has me prolly sticking with stock until I can afford the graves or going similar route as you. Don’t want to put getting ECU off anymore. Thanks again!
That air filter was screaming " clean me" lol
LOL. The Dusty Lizard Rally really was.
I bought a 23 KTM 300XC due to my 450L flame out issues on the technical stuff. Glad I held onto my 450L now.....I will be contacting Taco Mike. Thanks for the video John.
Of course!
I've put 5k miles on mine all stock.(besides tires) I just ordered the ecu and fmf 4.1 full exhaust. Really looking forward to feeling the difference.
BRAAP on!
Same. Have 6500 miles on my 450RL with no major upgrades. Cannot wait to finally get ecu and pipe.
Let us know what you think. Enjoy!
@@lukefish7562 will do! Hopefully have it all squared away in the next week or 2.
@@wilrowan8787 sweetness! 👍🏽
Let us hear!
@@lukefish7562 got everything installed and all I can say is wow. I love it. Throttle is nice and crisp but smooth. The whole powerband is so much smoother. Best way I can put it is that the bike is refined.
Nice! I was thinking about sending my vortex back and having it re-flashed to lower the fan activation temp but this ecu sounds like a game changer….hmmm…and Mike is such a great guy too, would love to help his business…but it’s hard to without a KTM, LOL…may have to just sell the vortex. Thanks as always John!
I’m digging the new ECU a lot Damon.
You are the king of the Honda CRF 450L adventure riding. You are also friends with Mike at Taco Moto. I would love to see a comparison video between the Honda 450L and the Husqvarna 501s. I almost bought the Honda but they were in short supply when I wanted to buy one so I went with the Husky. With your knowledge and experience and your in at Taco Moto you could produce a wonder comparison video. I trust your opinion. I would be happy to loan you mine for a week or 2 to ride in the back country of the Pacific NW. (Not Portland) My wife and I could provide you a place to stay, a vehicle, the bike, a 2023 Husky 501s and tools and internet access all for free. I am an old guy just looking to help out good guys like you John.
My Husky is set up similar to your 450L. (Very expensive)
Ok John I'm aim-ing for the Get!
😎
I love my GET (gen1) and FMF with two significant issues. First, there's two 'stock' maps that you can customise but no intuitive way to switch between two custom maps on the switch. It's always Stock + Custom, not Custom 1 + Custom 2. The second issue I have chased for months is the backfiring on deceleration. I've replaced the copper header seal, SMOG delete, set it slightly richer at 0% throttle. Super annoying.
Push more fuel at it on the 0 TPS line
Go as high as 15% then start backing some off until it comes back
Go +1 up from there and you’re done 👌🏽
@@TACOMOTOCO awesome steps, I'll follow that process. I was trying too many htings at once.
I almost said, "Go talk to Tacomoto" ...
@@JohnTYoung It's all your fault, your 911 content needs to come with a helpline.
That dog has some wheels lol
Zoom zoom
I have the first version Runs so good. I'm at 2500 ft ele. But when I went to Silverton CO. @ 9300 ft. bike would not idle, idle knob would not work either.
Long story short take your WiFi dongle with you so you can make adjustments. Ran so good at lower altitude did not even suspect I would have any issues.
On a side note my buddy's 450L has Vortex got worse gas mileage but ran better than my bike.
More gas in, more horses out... I live at 7400 feet, I get it.
@@JohnTYoung I understand you live at high elevation. I'll be interested to see how this ECU works across a wide range of elevations. Like @johnhudson571, I live at low elevation, and the GET RX1 wasn't capable of running the same tune at 9300' that it runs at 2000', which was disappointing. I assume you've now used this from your 7400' up to about 12k or so--does it do anything strange with that range? And great video!!
@@tomr8276 it works just peachy!
Thanks John, I love your videos
Thanks for watching!
Now that you have been riding it; what map/traction control do you usually use? In this setting what is good estimate of mpg? For reference, for you, what was stock ecu mpg ?
love the drills!
LOL. And how bad I am at them....
nonsense, looking good!@@JohnTYoung
great review brotha! im a motorcycle man myself, i have had all kinds but now own a ktm 790 duke, but I'm wanting a dual sport bad. i just subscribed to your channel. ride safe.
Thank you!
It just hit me. The GET ecu stands for “GET YOUR WALLET!” 😂😂😂
🤣
Good info as always. Thanks.
You bet
I sure miss your videos John!
Hi Ken. What would you like to see, if I made more?
I would like to see your adventures on your new big bike and how you customized it.
I would like to see if you have any new rides on your Honda such as any new BDRs.
I would like to see any viewer events that you talked about last year where you would ride with some of your fans.
I would like to see you document any visits you might have had with any of your suppliers or manufactures.
I have grown to trust your opinion and your evaluation of products that are helpful to you on your rides.
I wish I would have known when you came to Oregon. I would have been happy to have driven you and trailered your bike back to Colorado avoiding the hell hole of Portland and saving your ears from your lost muffler insert.
I hope to meet you some day. I love your videos!
Ken Logue
Hillsboro, Oregon
@@kenlogue That's a heck of a list. This past year has been filled with non moto stuff, I'll try harder next year.
Thanks for the info
Any time!
i have a 2021 Honda 450rl iv'e never had that problem with the throttle twitch im not shure if the Canadian version is different
You’re just a superior pilot my friend.
Thanks for the update on this ecu and the future use.
Of course
Until you put 20k miles on it the Vortex is still king (because of you)
This new ECU is intriguing, but what about MPG, long-term durability, will it make the bike less reliable?
I’d also be pretty upset to have just bought the previous-gen GET. It sounds like those people are not able to get this improved mapping already? Doesn’t sound reasonable to me.
All true Jon. As for mapping, you’d have to talk to your dealer, but I think the SX1 has better electronics. Newer gizmos inside.
I've got 18,000 miles on my 450RL and I've owned the Vortex, AIM, GET RX1 and now the GET SX1. And actually the MPG on the GET RX1 is what initially sold me on it over the Vortex. I easily saw a 10%-20% increase in MPG over the Vortex. Everything else (power, etc.) was icing on the cake.
That is the boat I am in, ordered the RX-1 with wifi, hasn't even arrived yet and now the SX-1 is better. The SX-1 is not listed for my bike yet, so there's that.
Hi John, great videos as always. I’m new to riding and I purchased the 450L. I noticed you said you can gain more power by opening up the box. Is this achieved by simply taking of the cover above the air box under the seat? Regards
Yup! Easy Peasy. But louder too.
Hey John, do you run the snorkel cover on or off with this SX1 ECU? Also, do you use the phone app?? Finally, do you run the enduro map running single track slow stuff ? Or normally keep it on the power map. Love the videos
Always off. Why smother your own bike? No to phone app, no one has time to tune their bike in the middle of a really fun ride. LOL> I like power too!
Thanks for the informative update. Did you change the can on this bike? It looks different from the 10k and 16k review (though hard to see in the 16k). Thanks for the enlightening content.
I went from stock to Yosh to Graves...
Cool Vid! Been a while since I watched it. Any idea when you might do that 890 to 450 comparison? Seems like you were all 450 till you took the big trip to the West Coast? Anyway, be great to get your opinion on the 2 bikes... Thanks!
Winter. Blah...
Great video. I just bought the sx1, I can't wait to fit it. Do you think the flywheel upgrade is a benefit for the sx1 too ?
I tried and didn't like it, but you may.
Should do a before and after comparison
If you go watch the ECU shoot out, that's the before.
Looks really cool do you need to get the app? Not into the app thing
No, you don’t NEED it.
Hi John,
Loving your content.
If I get an GET SX-1 in Australia that’s not from tacmoto is it the same mapping, or do they fine tune it?
Import duties into Australia are shocking…
That’s a great question. I would assume you’d get a different map. Taco Motos is pretty specific to the RL.
That’s shame. I really want the Taco Motos one. Keep up the great work. Awesome job
Does the fuel mileage and gallons used in the Honda display work with the SX1 ECU? It doesn’t with the AIM
It seemed to.
@@JohnTYoung excellent, thankbyou
Hey John, appreciate all you advice, I purchased the Get from Taco and am having issues with the fan not ever coming on and the motor is running way hot. Have you adjusted the get ecu to help the fan kick in at a lower temp ? If so, what settings did you use?
How hot is way hot? Mine kicks on about 190 or so.
Like your videos, thanks. How are your graphics holding up as far as bubbling up on your nomad tank.??
Totally bubbled up. Even with the vented vinyl.
You found much different in fuel usage? Compared Vortex ?
I haven't ridden out enough miles on to tell a 2 or 3 MPG difference... but more gas in means more ponies out.
The stall issue is why I didn't get a Honda. I got a 690. It is worse 😂
All fuel injected thumpers suffer from it to some degree.
Hey John quick question what Exhaust system, you like better, yoshimira or the graves. And does one seem to run cooler than the other ? Trying to decide what one to get ...thanks
Yosh. It fits better.
your running this ECU only without wifi correct? I would like to use it right out of the box and maybe or maybe not program another map or 2 into with the wifi app later down the road, although I wouldn't think I would really need to from the way you say it performs. Thanks for the info!
I did not get the Wi-Fi antenna, but it's not bad idea
When you did your ecu comparison. You said the AIM had the best low end out of the 3 and said if the GET had the same low end as the AIM, it would be the choice to go with. Is that now true with the GET SX1?
No. The SX1 is what the GET should have been. Best ECU for the CRF hands down.
Thanks for the question!
@@JohnTYoung the sx1 has better low end control over the AIM?
what kind of mpg are you getting with the sx1?
I haven’t really checked yet.
@@JohnTYoung i know you have that big nomad tank on, so you're probably not worried about it too often. i'm at around 41mpg with the vortex and the ims. that low fuel light seems to always come on a little sooner than i'd like. i'm looking at the nvbdr and it has some long sections up north without fuel stops that i wouldn't risk without carrying more fuel, but it would be great to better mileage.
@alecharrington let’s say it drops to 38MPG. That’s 3 miles / gallon you’re going to come up short. Times 3 gallons, that’s 9 or 10 miles. Nothing in the great scheme of things.
In one of your ECU comparison videos you had hot restart problems with the GET ECU. Did you ever figure out what was wrong with your bike?
I did not, tho I’ve never had that with the new GET… or even the Vortex.
@@JohnTYoungThere have been a number of starting and altitude issues with the TM tuned GET. A number of folks have been told the issue is with their bike, myself included. I’ve been working with a new tuner that was recommended by GET and it’s been very productive. I was just curious what you found was the problem. It would appear it was tune related also.
Are you riding the Honda anymore or is it retired?
@@shawnsobrero812 the few times I've ridden it have been at 7500' or so with no issues. Have you talked with Taco Moto?
@@JohnTYoungI have, but they aren’t at all responsive and like to fault the bike the same as they did with your hard hot restart condition. I narrowed it down to their programming hence the reason I’ve moved on to another tuner. The new source has exceeded expectations so far and my bikes haven’t performed this good since I switched from a MT tuned Vortex to the TM products. At the very least TM did refund my money.
Be well.
I'm looking for aftermarket ecu for my falcon 400cc
Your what?
@JohnTYoung I'm looking for a aftermarket ecu for a falcon 400cc motorcycle... or the software and hardware to flash the one I got
@@ForeignLifestylestory oh! I'm sorry. I got nothing for you. Mike of Taco Moto is in pretty good with the GET people, give him a shout.
@JohnTYoung I'm still in the Philippines.. I'll be state side first of may...I can bring my ecu with me...I'm really looking for the wire harness to plug my ecu into my laptop... and software... that would give my a chance to figure it for my self... thanks
You look like Lee Van Cleef
I. Who? Really?
Still running the throttle tamer with the get ? Thanks
I am not. The combo makes the throttle too mellow.
Get a beta and save the money
Isn't that a type of fish?
Do i have to leave the wifi box hooked up ??
If you want to change things on the fly, then yes.