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- Review of the Snapdragon X Elite on the Asus Vivobook S15
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Snapdragon X Elite Laptops versus Apple MacBook Air M3
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These are WAY better than I thought they would be
ARM laptops are finally legit in the windows space
It would be awesome if we could get an Asus G14 with this chip and something like an RTX 4060
cool
Hey Dave, when you go to review new laptops could you take apps that have both x86 and arm versions and compare performance across those to see what the penalty on the emulation layer looks like?
Which part was better?
How about the performance hit when running on battery?
The fact that the battery life is on par with the macbook air 15 while the vivobook has a 120Hz screen and two fans is plain bonkers for a windows machine
Probably a bigger battery.
@@LogicalError007 should that matter from consumer point of view if you are getting bigger battery with lesser price? No one is stopping Apple to do it but then if they did I am pretty sure they will increase price.
@@LogicalError007 2WH bigger, and more importantly than 2 fans and higher refresh rate, it has an OLED panel, which consumes more energy, it is still getting about the same battery backup.
What i am exceited about now is how much it can last after i debloat windows... For context, the idle drain on my 4600H processor is under 4w down from 9w, after removing some bloat and telemetry using winaero, and used to get about 5-7 hours of light usage on my 45Wh batttery. It is about 4 now, as the battery has degraded to 37wh.
@@LogicalError007 by 3wh so not too much
@@Vee-Wee Yeah, for consumer it does not matter. For understanding the efficiency of the chip, it does.
Apparently it's not much bigger. So for a 1st gen horizontally integrated laptop, these perform very well with quite a good battery life.
I heard there was an update pushed yesterday with many improvements.
It's crazy how just opening up CZcams on an Intel power laptop can have the fans running so this is a breath of fresh air
On M3 Pro youtube uses around 7W on half brightness (300 nits probably) and 4.8W while video is paused
pun intended?
And not from laptop's fans, air that is
@@untheosource?
My Intel laptop lag as hell When played hd yt video while having a good gaming laptop 🥲
10% performance hit through Prism emulation is actually really legit, they weren't lying when they said they were aiming at Rosetta 2+ class
And that improved performance also carries over to older ARM Windows laptops. My ProX is finally usable.
In some games it gets like half the performance so it's gpu drivers needs much work .
it's not emulation .......it's translation like rosetta
It's funny how so many doubted Qualcomm about their X Elite performance statements when their engineering team literary IS the original crew that created the designs for the Apple Silicon A and M series chips!!!!
I love how this is only Version 1. Imagine how Version 2 or 3 of the Snapdragon X-Elite may perform when the time arrives.
EXACTLY 💯!
Apple without the original lead engineers are on iteration 3 & 4 and performance and battery life really hasn't been improved. In fact RAM and storage limitations are being seen with M3 Pro and now M4.
Whilst the original Appl3 Silicon tram left Apple, started Aura (4got the name) and got absorbed by Qualcomm) released version 1 in under 1.3 years and matching Apple's "Silicon version 3"
Qualcomm is adjusting their entire business around X Elite and future and trust it's going to be sublime.
By end of 2025 or early 2026 we'll all be like Apple Silicon what?! Who? Where, or with Apple enjoy that junk lmao!😊
Windows has been trying to build an ARM-based Windows PC for so long now. Seems like they've nailed performance, but at the end of the day it's about compatbility and app support that will make the Snapdragon X Elite a homerun!
Yeah, I really don't see the point. The battery performance which is its strong point, is only marginally better than x86 last gen. And we know the new gen from both AMD and Intel will be even better.
Microsoft walked so Apple can run
Like literally, far before Apple announced their full transition to M1 Apple Silicon, the app support on Windows ARM was extremely poor that almost no one ever wanted it
@@SirMo keep dreaming
@@sihamhamda47 No, Microsoft walked, because they are not able to run. Apple would have done the transition anyway.
@@drabekstepanlol that's harsh but the truth. They only run when they see someone finish the race.
Where’s the “thumbs if you liked it, subs if you loved it”??
its besides ''hey guys, this is austin!''
Where's the "it's been nice" lmao
It's still in our head
I miss the “It’s been nice.”
I share your appreciation for the advances in performance and battery life. Let's hope for continuous development and app optimization for this new chip.
That definitely doesn't suck.
A high compliment for a Windows device 😏
@@sillystuff6247 Yeah, really.
@@sillystuff6247apple when it comes to upgradability 😂
@@Youvkoonly for windows ultrabooks, not for the gaming laptops they are in their own category
@@RandomguyOnetheinternet just because windows has a monopoly on directX. But linux is already good enough for most of the games. Aside from that I am not a huge fan of gaming laptops, they are thick, loud, hot, expensive and work from battery for approximately 2 minutes. For me it always was better to buy a thin laptop with good processor for work and a gaming console.
I think if they make thier GPU powerful enough, it'll be awesome to have this in hand held consoles
It's actually not that different in performance from the current handhelds out there. The main issue is that it's emulation so you lose some performance
@@crestofhonor2349Only CPU instructions have to be emulated on ARM, games are more GPU intensive, less CPU. Should be fine performance wise for game logic, the only problem is support from Nvidia and AMD for graphics drivers for Windows on ARM.
I mean the benchmarks it’s getting with emulation is already better than the steam deck. I’m sure somebody’s working on a snapdragon handheld. Can’t wait to see it
@@christianr.5868 I think this is still tough for ARM considering that their main performance competitors are the ROG Ally (X) and Legion Go-type devices, unless they go the more battery-focused or less heat route. I think reviewers will always somehow compare new handheld consoles to these highest-performing handhelds unless they make significant strides in battery life or heat that make performance comparisons moot.
Owning an M1 MacBook for daily and an ROG Ally, the Ally blows the M1 out of the water in BG3 and doesn't need to emulate x86, but then again the M1 is a lot older. I'm interested to know how much emulation tanks ARM battery life - I know on the M1 doing emulation was way less battery efficient than running native Apple Silicon apps. And I think that would be ARM's main selling point for handheld consoles - same or better performance in gaming with more battery and less heat; something I wish my ROG Ally had.
Also, I really hope they can make FSR 2+ work well on these new ARM chips if they ever reach handheld... they're currently the saving grace for running things like FH5/BG3 on High+ settings, which makes these games look great because a lot of the upscaling "imperfections" is masked by the small screen.
if this chip put on rog ally, it will have 50% performance jump cpu and gpu, and 80% jump in battery life, IF the game support native arm.
Can't wait for either framework or tuxedo to make a device with this chip. Would be an interesting target to compile and test apps on. Linux has been working on arm for a long while, and a lot of apps already have arm builds because of the Raspberry Pi and other similar devices. Also interested in the NPU if something like ollama would be able to run LLMs on it.
This. I was looking forward to these laptops until the whole recall fiasco. Now I would only buy one if I know I can run Linux on one efficiently.
@tmacman0418 I preordered one to run Linux on, but it will be a few months before the support is there in the kernel. It might be there in time for the next wave of distro releases.
So, the hype was real. Glad to see that you liked, really excited for the future ARM based chips
Actually reviewing the device and almost not talking about copilot, thumbs up Dave!
Because it has not been released yet for consumers.
@@MadafakinRio Everything is delayed, the Copilot app also got pulled and is still in preview in very limited markets.
If Qualcomm makes a chip to complete with Core 3 , Ryzen 3 , Windows on Arm might actually become popular
Snapdragon X plus will be on par with i5 or i7
Not in the near future.. you really missed a few thing, benchmarks only showed in multi core performance, but 99,9% of your apps are sigle core performance apps.. also he is clearly said it has a decent performance in natively made apps, he didn't even mentioned the performance of those apps what is currently still use x86.. and guess which one is the majority recently, the ARM or x86 based apps..?
*compete
Buddy Snapdragon X elite is literally Devouring Ryzen 5 and I7 based laptops!!
The only limit now is windows itself as an operating system
Super Hyped for X Elite Thinkbooks now!
Feels good to finally have arm competition
I preordered this model laptop from US Costco for $1299, but it includes 32GB of RAM.
nice!!
WHAT i need me some
Hefty requirements for the new microsoft recall spyware
@@enricod.7198Don't you guys get tired?
@@007alztruliDon't you guys understand?
OMG!!!! I have been waiting for your take on this🙂
But can it run Crysis?
Why would someone switch to ARM (with all the incompatibilities that would bring) for a chip with the same performance as x86 and 1 extra hour of battery? Totally illogical.
Consider it this way: a competitive market is essential for fair pricing. Encouraging competition prevents monopolies, which can lead to exploitation. When a single entity dominates a market, it can set unreasonable prices and dictate terms that benefit itself, not the consumer. This is true for all products and services. Without competition, companies may start making outrageous demands, as we've already seen in some cases
Can't wait to see what the surface laptop can do with this chip and some more optimization.
Needs more 3:2 laptops. There's only 2, Surface laptop and Framework.
Huawei Matebook, one of the best laptop of the last 5 years but somehow ignored by reviewers.
@@jpf1978 I keep forgetting that exists
@@jpf1978 I think its ignored because its not readily available in many markets. Also the bad press Huawei recently got.
thinkpad x13
@@atthelordyeah, West and the EU are free markets only when it's their companies selling the goods and services.
Not so free when other regions including China trying to sell the same. Hypocrisy!
"If you wanna go light, go bright!"
Dave2D, regarding light colored backlit keyboards
Thanks for the video Dave! Exciting to see these laptops develop. Does anyone have a link to the wallpaper used on the laptop in this video?
I’m really impressed. Really happy to see this changes
that OLED panel looks incredible
Not on my old lcd 😂
nothing new
Its okay. It does look a bit dark on the brightness
@@Dark.Syndicatei would say that because now we can get a good OLED paired with good battery life, good performance on a 1000 dollar laptop.
Being able to keep up with an 60hz LCD macbook air while having a 120hz OLED is an incredible improvement. Also having good performance off the wall on battery
say hello to burn ins in 2 years. ASUS keeps shoving down that tech on their laptops so people would buy new ones every 2 years like their phones.
Hell yes!!!! I'm super stoked to hear it!
Thanks for posting this video
Literally I've been counting days for this 😅
Oh damn
Let's hope devs will go all out for this
This is great! Im going to hold out for the surface version and give Windows as a daily OS a shot again.
What about professional or older apps? Like Solidworks. Considering some rly benefit from having more vram, r they gonna perform well too? And how about the price? Is there gonna be an Arm laptop that can compete with the rtx 4050 at 800$?
always on point, thanks dave!
There are 4 X Elite SKUs and it should be listed which it is. the 78 variant has no boost clocks vs other 3 so there can be benchmark disparities between models. Also World of Warcraft is native for woA.
@Dave2D this is something very important you need to address in reviews!
Reviewers must include cpu version into benchmark charts
This very SKU on the vivobook is the base 78 variant but still performs great. The other versions will have even better numbers than what Dave's shown.
@@fidelisitor8953 It's not that great as expected, especially when competition is also releasing next gen. I've see only selected models with the 80 SKU and IMHO there will be a noticeable difference between 80 and 78.
Always love your reviews. much love from Nigeria
I'm happy that they tried to be considerate with the pricing, because without good pricing it won't get anywhere
I've been SO waiting for this video!!!!!!!!!!
need this on a SteamDeck
that would be great
First thing I thought of when they first announced the x elite. Man if they can get games optimized for ARM the future of PC handhelds esp in terms of battery life will be bright
It's gonna be on a different level of translation layers that were gonna have since proton as of right now is tailor made for x86 maybe in Steam Deck 3?
@@Jaxv3r the game porting toolkit is basically apples version of proton, and despite running through that translation layer and then rosseta to convert from x86 to ARM, games run pretty comparable to the steam deck, and yes I know Apples silicon is at the top of ARM performance, but it still shows its not impossible for Valve to design an ARM chip capable of this
better off waiting for Lnuar Lake. Shit is on TSMC 3nm and with huge IPC increase on E cores.
These things are so awesome, despite the cost I really think I am going to grab one before they go out of stock!
The designs on the chassis is minimalistic and I really love that too.
Nice one Dave.
Love how you highlighted both the positives and the areas that need work. The Snapdragon X Elite chip has the potential to revolutionize the Windows laptop experience.
The ARM laptop review we've all been waiting for!
Oh snap, sleep can wait
I just setup Windows to Hibernate instead of sleep.
Like what's the harm in waiting an extra second or three?
Oh snap, as in, Snapdragon?
ML engineer here. I’m excited for the pro chips. The removable RAM slot is a sign of low memory bandwidth. That’s important for containing big robust AI models. Energy efficiency plummets even with mediocre nVidia gpu for laptops. However, the chip can contain a 13B model, so there has to be a separate soldiered ram. Then, who wants to pay twice for the RAM?
Dave, you can get OLED screens like that on laptops from HP and Lenovo for less than $1000, with an 8845HS. They were on sale for a little over $800 recently.
I personally have no use for an OLED monitor though, not interested in burn in.
And while the performance is impressive, most laptops with the X Elite seem to be in the $1500+ range, with the exception of this Vivobook.
Just got my new Surface Laptop with ARM and it's a beast 🥰
How is the battery life?
@@OrnobzI wonder whq laptop he is talking about because the surface laptop copilot comes out tomorrow 😅
Yes I am pretty sure arm based surface laptop is yet to release.
Which laptop are you talking about?
@@mybraintrembles Releases tomorrow, they could have an early delivery depending where they are.
@@mybraintremblespre order has been opened since couple of weeks ago.
The moment I've been waiting for is when Dave releases a video about the Snapdragon X series.
Was testing done plugged in or on battery?
Great video, Dave! Can you please confirm how many monitors this laptop with the chip can connect to?
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IF these laptops are better, I'd like to see Framework adopting it, BUT they already support too many flavors/chipsets...
that would be sick! also the price could go even lower!
Hate this hyping of products like Framework, Arc browser or Linux, which only small amount of people uses
@@ataytaygaraev4298so why do you hate it? Apple has always been favored by overconsumerism especially among American customers.. but outside of the US and Canada everyone owns different set of laptops and smartphones.. most of that has to do with financial constraints and a tech that's more convenient to use. And I don't see any problem with that.
@@ataytaygaraev4298 Arc browser is awesome, I don't think it is just being hyped.
@@ataytaygaraev4298 the amount of people using Linux is not small. It's a minority but we're still talking tens of millions of active users...
Can't wait for Lenovo variant of snapdragon chip based on how this vivobook performs
Check out the Yoga 7x, looks great for a similar price!
Lenovo Slim series is my favorite, I hope a Slim 7 series laptop is released with X elite.
@@AbidAli-bo8svwell theres already yoga slim 7x ready!
I have the Lenovo x13s and the absolutely only impressive thing about it is the battery life. It feels like a plastic toy for kids.
@@AbidAli-bo8sv There's a slim 7x with the x elite and a 1000nits OLED display for $1199.
I'm curious to see how e-gpu's perform, if the stuttering issues go away, or if there is compatibility issues running them on ARM
Thank you so much for this review. Do you know if this display uses PWM to modulate its brightness? If no, that's a no go for me :(
For this type of review an extensive test of apps in emulation mode is needed.
extensive reviews is not what Dave2D is about
Also need to test compatibility of popular peripherals.
Wooo! Might actually get one
Wow this is way better than expected
Been using arm based tech on my laptops since 2020. happy to see windows laptops catching up again
I just need to know how many hours of Factorio I can play on a single charge..
is this sponsored?
Yes
You're making a positive impact!
Hi Dave, I really love your videos. It would be great if you could make a full review of the Microsoft Surface Laptop.
It's nothing, but there's a typo at 2:17. Not Vulcan, it's Vulkan.
Live long, and prosper
Unwatchable video. This ruined it for me
In fairness, ein Vulkan is just a vulcan.
You all are wrong, its volcano 🌋
You're wrong. That is something, not nothing.
Amazing! I hope this gives Apple (as a MacBook user myself) a slap to keep pushing further. Happy about the Windows ARM transition as it'll push the industry forward in a positive way for all of us :)
Do we know if there are gonna be arm gaming laptops or handhelds?
I'll be excited waiting for arm compatible architecture & Design programs
I've been running ARM version of WIndows and Office in parallels on a MacBook Pro for months already. Windows ARM is ready for prime time at least for office workers.
How are the games performing ? Initially there was at least 30-50% performance loss compared to native windows ( judging from the potential gpu power of m2/3 MacBooks of similar level nvidia gaming laptops )
@@InfinityFishing people are trying and they often do run but very glitchy and stutters. At least in parallels, not ready. A native ARM windows environment may do better though.
Embargo over yeah! What's the battery like.
One big factor most reviewers undermine is that these chips will get official Linux support.
Nice, getting me excited!
you can get 7th gen AMD chips in vivobooks on sale for under a grand with the same screen just saying.
No one need this loud and battery hungry laptops with x86
@@ataytaygaraev4298 Except they aren't.
There was recently a Lenovo on sale with an 8845HS, 16GB/1TB for $650.
@@ataytaygaraev4298
Watch the video. The Qualcomm chip only has like 10% more battery life than x86 offerings. That's not groundbreaking.
@@ataytaygaraev4298 Amd 7th gen chips are quite efficient and quiet too.
I'd like someone to review Linux on these, including testing x86 emulation with games (that stutter mentioned might be shader caching, which Linux solves by downloading shader caches with Proton). Linux has a far more mature ARM ecosystem than Windows, so the vast majority of Linux applications already have native ARM versions. I suspect we'll have to wait for Phoronix to get a machine because big CZcamsrs like LTT have been completely ignoring Linux in their latest laptop reviews.
It's that theres no linux support yet for the elite x. It's not a linux problem, it's a driver problem. Qualcomm said in a blogpost they're working on pushing driver's upstream to the new kernels, but there are currently too many problems so that there's nothing to show in a video. (sleep, power profiles, npu drivers, emulation(?), none of those work right now
@@OneGearMode JustJosh tried to install Linux on some of the new lpatops and a bunch of them didn't even have the option to turn off Secure Boot in the BIOS. The HP could but predictably didn't boot. Qualcomm is targeting 6.11 in their roadmap for a lot of features, which at the kernel's bimonthly cadence means... October at the earliest? From that livestream it looks like there were lots of Windows software problems even. Based on the already meh performance and efficiency though, I can't really see much reason to go w/ X1E since Strix Point and even Lunar Lake will be out well before then.
@@lhl Tbh, I'm not really hyped. I see energy efficiency is going to be the new trend, since it makes everything cheaper. Intels lunar lake won't ever beat ARM, next year, qualcomm will produce an even better one is my guess. Qualcomm can sell its small chip to everything: phones, handhelds, laptops, VR stuff. Btw, tuxedo computers is developing an X1E laptop
@@OneGearMode Sadly, I wouldn't hold my breath on the Tuxedo X1E. Per Computex reports: "Tuxedo is trying to release this model before the end of the year, but the implementation team mentions that 'there are still too many pieces of the hardware, software and delivery capability puzzle missing to even begin to set a release date. TUXEDO for ARM will come, but we don’t yet know exactly when." You can see from more serious reviews like the Notebookcheck one (eg vs Dave2D's that compares the X1E to dGPU gaming laptops for battery life, wtf) that the X1E Vivobook basically barely matches up in battery efficiency to similarly specced current Hawk Point and Meteor Lake Zenbook OLED ultrabooks (it ties on Wifi 1.3 and loses by a fair percentage in h.264 and full load). While focused on gaming performance, The Phawx also put out his review that is much more detailed/careful about measuring performance and power - even on Cinebench the X1E loses to Hawk Point on perf/watt, and he covers the huge differences in power and perf between performance/and efficiency modes - something that again, reviews like Dave2D's are actually quite misleading (benchmarks in perf mode, battery life measurement in efficiency mode). I'll wait for Geekerwan's reviews before any final conclusions on efficiency, but what I'm currently seeing leaves me pretty unimpressed by X1E. Again though, since I run primarily Linux on desktop and have 0 interest in Windows 11, sort of a non-starter anyway. I currently have a MBA just for battery life when traveling, so I get the importance of efficiency (and despite Qualcomm's original claims, X1E laptops get nowhere near the MBAs in any battery life scenario).
Excited for my surface laptop 7 to ship.
It's great to see the ARM chips doing well in the windows space, I suppose it's apple equivalent is the base spec air but as a work laptop I would be happy to use it :)
Finally a genuine competitor across all domains for an apple silicon MacBook.
No ecosystem, and ugly design... It's a competitor on many domains, but definitely not all.
@@ThomasVanhelden But if performance and price are competitive, it only boils down to preference
@@kvvint7618 The comment said “all domains.” There are more domains than performance and price.
MacBooks maintain their value way better, so this laptop is more expensive to own than a MacBook.
It could be your personal preference that you don’t care about design, but having limited integration with other devices is definitely a bummer for many people.
@@ThomasVanheldenwhat is it with people and echoing "ecosystem ecosystem" all the time???? If you arent rich enough to dump between 10-15 grand on an "echo system" it shouldnt matter...
@@cithr0963 you call them iSheeps
I'm an apple only guy for laptops since a long time now, but dan I'm happy seeing the competition catching up, and even exceeding at some things ! (screen, battery life it seems).
The competition that we should see in the coming years is going to be too good for us users :D
How did you blacked your hair? Looks great!!
Is there a big difference between 10 core vs 12 core?
My man Dave coming out with the first review of this awesome chips
Awesome! I can’t wait to see this thing with Linux.
I wonder how emulation is going to be in Linux, because QEMU is super slow
@@tablettablete186There are alternates like FEX
@@tablettablete186 I am not worried about emulation on Linux because open source can be compiled natively for ARM. Generally, I expect all libre software to be available natively.
@@LinuxRenaissance I know, my worries are games from Steam...
Based on Josh's tests during livestream, most of these laptops can't even disable secureboot, nor boot from USB. The one that could failed to load fedora arm.
Awesome & Thanks :)
Thanks Dave, straight to the point like always.
Cynically, let's see where the base pricing goes in the next generations, once they establish a foothold in the market...
Those fps are actually kinda good for an arm soc,damn
Take a look at ThePhawx's just posted review - it's really not...
Crazy how I bought a Galaxy Book 4 Pro 360 a month before these new chips were announced and now I can't even return it 😃
Doesn't really matter, because the first product of them if going to suck anyways and I wouldn't buy an ASUS anyways
The book 4 pro is a great device, do u not like it?
@@illsmith4076 I do I do, don't get me wrong. It's just that I just bought it and it already feels obsolete. Especially considering they released a Book 4 Snapdragon X version with this launch!!
@@illsmith4076 I'm open too anything, but I don't expect that much. HP changed their line-up, that's a bummer, but my next laptop will definitely be a Lenovo.ThinkPad.
Dell XPS changed to touchbar, expensive for the performance. MacBook not enough RAM for the price. Lenovo could perform bad too, so I'd take that hit.
Open to ASUS, it's not bad, but I have to remain critical. I mean 2014 ASUS still works.
I’m curious to know if this ends up making games / other apps easier to co develop for both windows and mac seeing as they’re both ARM based.
Received my Samsung Galaxy Edge 4 14" X1E80100 with an NP940XMA motherboard, about an hour ago. After couple of firmware /BIOS updates and couple of Windows Updates to 24H2 for ARM64), with two 4K monitors, BT Keyboard, I installed Citrix Workspace, MS Office and started working on office stuff. Man, its amazingly FAAAASSSSTTTTT!!!!! I love the experience so far. Installed Chrome / ARM and the score for Speedometer 3 is 26.5. Jetstream 2 score of 287. Connected to 6 shared network drives and the usual. Man I am very happy to have this laptop. It is totally worth it.
just saying
anything can handle chrome / office tasks, u didnt need to buy an overpriced ARM laptop, x86 one of same price smokes it
Remember when Intel Arc Cards came out eveyone was skeptical . But after drivers where updated in the last 12 months we saw performance jumps . Let's also trust the process this will age well.
That's a GPU. GPU drivers can improve over time. Not relevant for CPU performance.
@@ramzisabra9235 You didn't get the point. I know the relative difference between a GPU & CPU. I mean in terms of optimisation on Arm and migrating most apps from x86 to Arm , this is already a 3rd generation product. Keep in mind Snapdragon had past efforts , so developers are more commited even OEMs .
@@thomasmatewe I did get your point. My point was that improvements on GPUs are very orthogonal to improvements on CPUs, even when emulation is considered, due to how vastly different they are.
Intel drivers over the past year were optimizing DirectX overhead and per-game performance with driver profiles, the latter being something Nvidia and AMD have been doing for decades now - and this is why the performance improvements were so drastic.
In this very review, there was just an ~10% performance loss due to x86-to-ARM translation.
1) ARM compilers are already optimized to output efficient assembly given the prevalence of the architecture on everything other than Windows laptops / desktops. A big part of software optimization for CPUs happens on the compiler frontend, which emit architecture-agnostic intermediate code, while the backend is responsible for machine-specific code output.
2) A lot of Windows applications are already running natively on ARM.
What you see right now in terms of CPU performance with this is what you get, aging well isn't a factor.
This is looking pretty strong right out of the gate, but I want to see more reviews before getting too excited.
tfw no gaming models :(
Dude. Come on.
It’s not built for games yet dude. Games are some of the most complex and power hungry things computers can run and they’re built for x86, you’d likely lose a fair amount of performance due to emulation. Im sure we’ll get there one day
Gaming on ARM is strange, it is more business oriented rn
@@extra4542 It's JarrodTech. A laptop vlogger.
@@user-jn1px7rp3h He knows. He is a laptop youtuber doing some light trolling.
I might consider this laptop because of this review
What about performance unplugged? Does it drop the same way as x86 machine does? Or you still have a full power just like on Macs?
I ordered the Microsoft Surface ARM, should I get the Vivobook instead
I think Surface laptop 7 is the most vfm and seems the best out of all the devices for the price. Surface pro isn't as compelling
Never buy ASUS…ever
@@naumankhan422 what's vfm
You should actually not give in to impulse buy and wait for the laptop review from all brands and choose the one that will fit you best.
@@ccoco7689 not an impulse buy, it had 100$ for a pre-order and 60 days return.
Can wait to see how Linux works on these things, really looking forward to have my next laptop being ARM based
Should run pretty smoothly
X Elite drivers and other code has already been submitted for review to be included in the Linux kernel by Qualcomm themselves, so Snapdragon X will definitely get Linux support as well...
Linux itself should work just fine. The problem will be finding software that will work on it.
@@SilkCrown time to run gentoo
@@SilkCrown There is Box86/64
This is it. Switching to arm. With these battery numbers, and more native app support, these will be crazy
How about vs code ? Or other developer tools ? They are supported yet or emulator for now ?
5:55 Not true. Thinkpad P16s 64GB ram, 1T SSD, 4K OLED, AMD 7840u is often seen for less than this.
ikr. no idea what he was smoking. many x86 120hz oled laptops sub $1000 exist
@@chiaza7735 rocking an oled laptop i payed 300 for... silly dave
Can’t wait for the framework version
Framework and linux for 0.1% of people, so no one cares about them
@@ataytaygaraev4298 why is bro so salty that some people use things that aren't 100% mainstream, like calm down, it literally does not affect you in any way
@@ataytaygaraev4298 What?
Can’t wait to see what they do with a desktop version and CAMM2 memory.
Performance-wise, how does this match up against the original G-14? Because I still use that and am waiting until there was a big breakthrough.
correct me if im wrong, but how is 1299 cheap? I Have a 2023 asus zenbook 14x with the same display and got it for 699
Marketing...
You're paying for arm cpu which brings longer battery life, less fan noise and more smooth experience overall
@@ataytaygaraev4298 Fan noise isn't really a problem on AMD's chips. And more smooth experience? LOL, no. It looks like AMD's and Intel's iGPUs are much faster as well. Just about the only thing this ARM chip has a real advantage over is battery life and it's not as impressive as I was thinking it would be, a couple hours more at best.
@@Son37Lumiere Yeah but they are copying Apple's marketing playbook so it's supposed to be good.
Those laptops all have the same tradeoff as Apple Silicon's laptop. Funny thing is that those are starting to sell pretty bad as well, people have wised up.
@@ataytaygaraev4298 just because your 10 year old shintel Laptop sounds like a jet engine when watching CZcams, doesnt mean a newer one with an amd apu will do. more smooth operation? amds and even intels igpus SLAP the x elite.
I really appreciate Dave trying his darnest to _iJustine_ these ARM chips for Windows into success. I hope Microsoft and it's hardware partners don't fumble the potential of ARM chips.
Qualcomm delivered the hardware now it is up to MS to deliver the OS. From the few videos I saw Gaming is not ready yet but I to be fair Apple silicon can't really game either. I need to see the Video editing performance in Davinci.
Because battery life and fan noise are vital on laptops. Thats what x86 cpus cant offer
@@garypranzo9334 Davinci Resolve is coming to ARM64 as a native app
4:30 Didn't know Dave was a Ludbud 😁
Thank you for reviewing light gaming! You saved me time and money to buy and test is myself because no one would test it! Huge thanks! ♥