QUEEN MARGOT - Marguerite de Valois
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- Marguerite de Valois lived during the second half of the 16th century, a period of turmoil for the Kingdom of France. She was the daughter of a king, sister of three kings and wife of a king. Marguerite was herself Queen of France and of Navarre. She seemed to have everything in life, except good fortune.
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Sources / Further reading
Queen Margot, Wife of Henry of Navarre by H. Noel Williams, New York, Charles Scribner’s Sons, 1907
Memoirs of Marguerite de Valois, Queen of Navarre, Written by Herself, Printed for Merrill & Baker, New York, 1800
The Book of the Illustrious Dames by Pierre de Bourdeille, Abbe de Brantome, H.P. & Co New York, 1899
The film, "Queen Margot" was superb,though because of not knowing the characters I was often confused.
I will NEVER be so confused again.
But if the Valois' were so anti-Hugenots, why would they try to make her marry Henri Navarre? His mother certainly knew who Margot's relatives were!
Was Jeanne de Navarre poisoned?
Why did the Admiral de Coligny trust the Guise King? He should have known better!
Je vous remercie pour cette leçon et complète. Les gens pensent qu'à cause de la loi salique, les femmes n'ont jamais eu beaucoup d'importance dans l'histoire de la France, mais grâce à vous, nous pouvons maintenant connaître la vérité.
Encore, merci.
Thank you very much for your comment. I’m really pleased to know that my video made some things clearer.
I think that Marguerite played an important role during those years of that particular time in the history of France. And I also think that the fact that she chose to become an ally of the Duke of Guise and the Holy League shows that she, perhaps, contemplated making a claim to the throne in defiance of the Salic Law.
Thank you for watching.
I think marrying Marguerite to Henri of Navarre was an attempt to reconcile the Protestants and the Catholics. As to Jeanne ,quite recently forensic tests were done on her remains which seem to support the long standing rumor that she was poisoned-arsenic was found
I freaking LOVE that film!! One of my faves ever! I literally did what you'd now call cosplay of Margot- based an "alternate persona" on her for our troupe of players in a Mediaeval society :D We mostly did skits based on Boccaccio's Decameron, so it's not even the right era, lol; it was an artistic & thematic decision & for fun.
@@livesandhistories Whoa! Claiming the throne _as a woman,_ when they had the Salic law?!?! Damn, I like her even more! I don't know enough French history to work out what her chances would've been, but I suspect pretty low. Navarre had had queens regnant, ofc, including her mother-in-law Jeanne, but Navarre seems to have been more in line with the neighbouring Iberian kingdoms than with France in that respect.
@@beth7935 Maybe her chances to be successful in claiming the throne were minimal, but I like the way she was thinking :)
Thank you for this fascinating history of the ill-used and horribly abused Margeurite of Valois. Thank goodness she had several years of intellectual of cultural and intellectual stimulation, friendships, charitable causes close to her heart and happiness at Court as well. Xxxx
Well said. I really felt sorry for the way she was treated. Thank you for watching Laura.
Thank you for this enchanting vignette. Your love for French history of the ancien regime shows through.
Yes, you are right, I just love that part of history :) Thank you very much for watching.
I love how you focus on the women. Having learned traditional history, I never knew or understood the effect unsung women have had on history. At least these days, some women are actually making some of today's history.
You're right. There are many historical characters that played their part in history and are now largely forgotten. Thank you for watching Jose.
@@livesandhistories You are most welcome.
So do I! I love reading about historical female royalty but it's harder to find(save for Elizabeth I)💜
Yes! Even women like Margot, who were clearly quite important at the time, are unheard of today other than by history nerds, & there were SOOOO many of them! And as for the ways they're talked about when they _are_ mentioned... it's improved massively, but I keep learning about huge biases in accounts that I hadn't even noticed as a feminist who did women's studies! (Sociology, not history, but still).
@@hardyquinn9442 Have you read "She-Wolves" by Helen Castor, or the doco based on it, which is on yt? It covers Empress Matilda, Eleanor of Aquitaine, Isabella of France & Margaret of Anjou, & it's incredible! It shows the huge bias & sexism in the accepted narratives about them, which I hadn't noticed, but when I did, I had even more respect for those kick-ass women! And it just tells their life stories really well.
I like, how the queen Margot was such an intelligent survivor though she had to go through such hardships, she used her possibilities!
She truly can serve as a role model.
The 1994 movie Queen Margot is a very good telling of her story
Thank you for doing Queen Margot I've been waiting for this one!
I'm glad you found my the video. Thank you very much Rebecca.
She’s a Survivor would be a understatement
Well said. Thank you very much for watching.
@@livesandhistories please make some more about sun king and earlier kings like this she’s so interesting and so many others love to hear about strategy they used too during that time
@@ownSystem Sure, other videos on various historical figures will follow. Thank you very much for your suggestion.
@@livesandhistories 😊
Why did we skip over this in history class.? Like we were taught that there was a conflict but not all the romantic drama.
She was born when Mary Tudor came to the throne.
Interesting times.
This is the most complete investigation about Margot d Valois and her mother. Loved it.
Marguerite de Valois is one of my favourite figures in history; I wanted to present her life in more detail. I'm delighted you liked the video. Thanks for watching, Gabriela.
What a tragic, heartbreaking life this woman led but she did it with grace and elegance!
Being part of the Medeci family is no badge of honor either. They were terrible, diabolical actually comes to mind! Tales of Catherine have painted her as the worst of the lot and this poor girl got her as a mother! I've read Catherine practiced the dark arts and she wore a poison ring to use as she saw fit. Who knows the truth about those things but we do know, from history, they were a bad family to be part of!
For all the misfortunes in Margot's life, in particular her mother and husband, at the end she was able to live a life of culture and charity. I'm not sure which of the two was worse though. I believe all they did was equally cruel, until he became king and treated her with a kind friendship. I also believe he allowed her favor because of what she was titling to the Dauphin.
I truly hope n her final years Margot was able to derived all the pleasures robbed of her in her sad, lost youth.
This video was thoroughly enjoyable! It is beautifully delivered and full of information on Frances history! It's obvious you love history,
Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this🤩 video!
Kathe
To me, Margot is a fascinating historical character - there are many sides of her personality that make her unique, I would say. And you’re right: to be part of that family must have been quite an experience!
Indeed, I am passionate about history, and it gladdens me to meet people who have similar interests. Thank you for being here, watching my videos.
"The dark arts", meaning, I suppose, witchcraft? were made up out of the imaginations of those who knew nothing about actual peoples' beliefs or practices. The "black mass", worshipping satan in the form of a goat, animal or human sacrifice -- all fake. Acting out horror stories out of their own corrupt imaginations, and, likely, hatred of women, and all their "subjects".
Getting a notification you have posted a video is absolutely a highlight of my day. The detail you include is appreciated. I have learned so much . Thank you.
I'm so happy you feel that way. Thank you for watching.
Como fazer p achar este filme.?to cansada de procurar .favor mandar em portugues
A true bibliophile, how admirable. 🇫🇷 🏰
An intellectual and a curious mind who also wrote in her own style. Thank you for watching Ann.
To be a noble, especially of the court, was hardly a privilege. For so many it was a perilous burden.
Very well said, Julie. Thank you for watching.
@@livesandhistories Yes, it's about where fate stuck you. Sometimes I hope reincarnation is true, other times, no.
@@ayliea3974 It is true. Sometimes one wonders if one can escape fate, so to speak.
@@livesandhistories Yes, I've given much thought to this.
Very well done so thoroughly researched. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching.
Thank you for making a complex life clear and understandable
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching Martin.
I was looking forward for another video, thank you for this. I love to hear how french names are pronounced by You. And of course the History lesson which you make entertaining.
As always, you are very kind Aileen. I'm so happy you're here. Hope you're keeping well. Thank you for watching.
Fascinating…this is the kind of history I love to read about, all kinds of history…so good..
@@nancytestani1470 Thank you so much Nancy. I'm really glad you like it.
What a delightful video biography! Thank you so much for the clear exposition of such a troubled century, with this admirable woman as the central character of the narrative. You say that she had everything but good fortune...Maybe she did not have the fortune to marry the love of her life, but she was obviously blessed with a bright brain and a strong constitution, and she had the fortune to be able to cultivate her mind and surround herself with other bright and creative minds. And she lived a relatively long life! If I had a time machine, I would like to visit her during her last years in Paris. She must have been a fascinating person to converse with.
I also find her fascinating.
Thank you.Very interesting especially about The Hugenots,we only hear about their sad fate at the hands of the Catholics 😪
I'm so glad you found the video interesting. Thank you for watching Stella. I hope you're doing well.
Very interesting and very well presented.
Thank you very much for your comment. Much appreciated.
Your pronunciation is impeccable. Not only this production, all your others as well.
You're kind. Thank you.
Thank you for another interesting history!! What a horrible mother and brother to have though! It sounded like they were both threatened by her beauty and popularity in some strange way to treat her so badly! No family love or loyalty at all. Still, she was very brave and definitely a survivor!!!
She wrote in her memoirs that she suffered more than anyone would know or realise. But, as you say, she was a survivor. Thank you for watching Dee.
Her. Mother Catherine came from an evil family and was likely trained in deceipt. Thank goodness Margariette spent her earlier years away from Catherine so she didn't learn those ways.
Brilliant! Fascinating!
If Margot’s father had not died so young maybe her life would have turned out differently. Perhaps he would have been more supportive of her than the rest of her family. Thank you very much for watching Beth.
Thank you. I learned a lot about this period of history and this woman and queen.
I'm really glad to hear that, Helen.
As a boy I have read Queen Margot by Alexandre Dumas. I was sure that the character of her lover that got caught during the escape attempt and then executed was made up. I am surprised to learn from this video that he was real person!
I also grew up reading the novels of Alexandre Dumas. Many of them are the product of his overflowing imagination. In Queen Margot, I think that, in the main, he did stick to some historical facts. Thank you very much for watching.
Welcome back lives and Histories, superb as you always do. 😊
Thank you kindly Robert. I'm so glad you liked the video. Enjoy your weekend!
@@livesandhistories thank you lives and Histories, always enjoy your videos and presentation, stay safe and enjoy your weekend.
@@robertdudley4017 You too. Be well!
@@livesandhistories thank you 😊
If your name is Henry, do NOT joust.
Quite so! :) Thank you for watching.
Amazing how so much of political intrigue in 16th-century Europe centered around male heirs, and yet the female royals of that era were so much more badass
Well said! I agree with you.
Absolutely rough to have someone shove your head in duress as consent to marriage.
Amazing!
Thank you kindly.
During this time, it seems it was very dangerous to stick your head up, so to speak, and object to anything, including royalty!
You're right. Turbulent times - even within one's own family. Thanks for watching, Patricia.
Later, as Henri put it, "Paris is worth a mass", and became a Catholic.
Indeed.
Fascinating how standards of “beauty” change over the centuries
Quite true.
Absolutely fascinating a well presented study of a little known Woman of history
Thank you Angela. I'm really glad you find this fascinating.
very good video I had already seen another video about Queen Margot and I was more curious about this Queen until I discovered your channel. Congratulations for the content and I'm already subscribed👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤
Thank you so much. I'm delighted you are here.
@@livesandhistories 👍🤝❤️
What a life!
Ahh, finally. This video has been out for so so long and I was burning to watch it all that time, but there were too many things keeping me from it. Today, though, today is finally the day :)
Please, forgive me for taking so long.
I am really fascinated by the whole Valois family. I don't know why, probably it's just me, but I feel like they're sometimes overlooked a little bit, maybe they often don't quite get the attention they actually deserve. So many interesting and ultimately very important personalities belong to this family, and they did have strong and very interesting connections to many different places and names of Europe.
But even aside from all of that, looking at them as a family in the more literal sense, there is much to learn. Catherine de Medici had many children and for all of them in their very own way it must have been very very difficult to be a child of royal blood. I imagine their childhoods to be very far from "normal" and I wonder what it ultimately did to them and to their lives.
For example, early in the video you talk about Marguerite admiring her mother but at the same time also often or always feeling very distant, almost afraid of her. What does that do to a child? And what does that do to an adult after having had such a childhood?
And then, even beyond that, I think as a royal child you are always in the eyes of the nobles, of the court, also of the public. Always being watched, and at some point, every word you say, every move you make starts getting judged in the context of courtlyness and royal demeanor. It must feel so incredibly... heavy on your shoulders. Not really being allowed to make mistakes, to find your own way... not being allowed to be you, yourself, ultimately. What is life if you can't be you?
And then, on the opposite side of the spectrum, you always get so much attention. In the case of Marguerite, she was always praised for her outer beauty and for her sense of fashion. What does that do to a person, always getting praised, always getting called oh so beautiful? I wonder, did she just simply enjoy it and that's it? Or did it get to her head at some point? Or was it, all that praise and attention, maybe annoying after a while and sort of lost its believability in her eyes?
And then, maybe even worse than all of that, you can't even love who you just love. The royal court, your own family, start interfering with your relationships for political or even personal reasons, you get forced to marry someone other than the one you really want. What is life if you can't be you?
I think Queen Margot is the perfect example for all of that, but she is also more.
In your video you show that, even despite all the difficulties she perhaps may have had, she seems to have found a positive way through all of it, she seems to actually have found a way to be herself, after all. I see that in the way she supports her husband, even though she herself never desired to marry him and I see it in the way she ultimately makes her own decisions, helped obviously by the excellent education she received and by her natural intelligence and eloquence. Very impressive, indeed.
Even after all the troubles she had to go through in her adult life, she still carved her own way and did not just hide in defeat or anything like that.
Maybe, just maybe, it was her love for poetry, for books and for the arts in general that gave her a lot of strength and courage. I think you can never underestimate the positivity and inner strength these things can give you.
And so, O, I love your videos, and i thoroughly enjoy watching them.
In this one, I especially noticed that you are doing such a wonderful job interweaving the personal story of the character in focus, in this case Queen Margot, with the history and the situation around them. I am delighted by the way you embed the historical information surrounding her into her personal story, like little golden detail applications in a large piece of beautiful embroidery.
I have been looking forward to watching this for the last couple of weeks, as I said, and no words can portray the thankfulness I feel for finally being able to do so. And also for all your videos in general, as i always like to say, every single one of them is so inspiring, so thought-provoking, and simply so much fun to watch.
I really hope that your time making them is at the very least as wonderful as it is watching and enjoying them.
As always, i wish you all the best! Thank you :)
There is no need to apologise. You can watch my videos whenever you feel like and/or when you have time, of course. I am really glad you did get the chance to watch it :)
I can honestly say that the Valois dynasty is one of my favourite royal houses in history. Well, yes, I agree, maybe they are overlooked … but I think that that makes them even more interesting!
Catherine de Medici applied to her family the same principle she applied in running the affairs of the court/state: divide and rule. But, by opposing her own children one against the other she did a lot of damage to their respective upbringings, and I would say, to Marguerite’s in particular, who being a girl, needed probably more support from her own mother.
I don’t think that being praised for her physical beauty went to Marguerite’s head. But, equally, she probably did not mind that either :)
Marguerite was a woman of passion and of high intellect. She embraced life fully and despite her life problems she manged to keep going. Indeed, you’re right, she found solace in books, writing and art. It was her way of escaping her doomed marriage and things being imposed on her. I like her for the generosity of her spirit: helping her husband, giving to charity and supporting artists. In his memoirs, Cardinal de Richelieu said of her: “She was the refuge of men of letters; she loved to hear them talk; her table was always surrounded by them, and she learned so much from their conversation that she talked better than any other woman of her time.”
Well, yes, I like to get a feel for the characters I talk about in my videos, in this case Queen Margot … I like to “transport” myself, as it were, to the world she lived it and imagine how she was in real life. This is where the adding of personal details of her life to the historical context of her time makes things interesting to me, at least. And the fact, that you find that being as a thread of gold interwoven into a large piece of beautiful embroidery, is to me, no pun intended, golden :)
Now, at the end, I would like to thank you for watching and wish you well. Best, L&H.
@@livesandhistories Thank you so much for your long answer :) These are, in some ways, like letters from a like-minded person.
I wonder what that ultimately says about Catherine de Medici. Was she.. a cruel mother and a calculating person, always caring the most for herself and the affairs of state and court, or was she just a person who was sometimes overwhelmed with all the responsibilities and all the stresses that come with being Queen, Head of State and Mother all at the same time?
Well, maybe it was a bit of both, as it so often is. Very intriguing though, on one hand she was this very intelligent and certainly incredibly strong woman dealing with all the problems and difficulties in her life, for example her husband the King dying so young, and ruling over France, which was especially in her time by far not an easy kingdom to rule over, but on the other side she is also kind of playing these games, pitching even her own children against each other and all that.
Again, I wonder, was she like that by nature or is that what power and stress do to a person after a too long while?
I guess, no matter how one looks at it, all this makes it even more impressive that Marguerite went on to become such a strong, intelligent and generous woman.
And I must say, as a lover and _devourer_ of art I feel all the more connected to her through this. I feel strong appreciation for the fact that she was indeed so generous and so supporting towards artists and authors. Art can form surprisingly strong bonds between all kinds of people. Also between an artist and his artwork, as well as between the artwork and the admirer. Sometimes after you read a poem, for example, you are bound to it for the rest of your life, because you will always remember the words, they will always linger in your heart and ignite some emotion, if they are so memorable. Very powerful, something that may be truely eternal in some ways.
I love how you describe that you like to transport yourself into these worlds to imagine how they really were, and I feel very similar. As I mentioned, I like to devour books, poetry, art and information, but these worlds equally devour me. They capture me, leave me sleepless at times, and never really let me go. In a positive way.
I feel tempted. On one hand to start philosophising for hours about where the line between thought, fiction and reality really is, if it even exists. On the other hand I want to thank you, as I so often do, in my very own, very overflowing, yet very true and sincere way, even though finding the right words might be as close to impossible as one can ever get.
Well, thank you and all the best :)
@@NoMercy8008 I know what you mean when you say you wonder whether “the line between thought, fiction and reality really exists”. Because, one can feel that when the line between thought, fiction and reality gets blurred, imagination kicks in.
On poetry, I find it soul-warming and special as it can lend itself to various states of being or circumstances, in the sense that it can be sad, mournful, dramatic, hopeful or happy, funny and even amusing. No wonder that when children start their education they are taught simple little poems. That is where all starts, in the first years of life. And like you say, meaningful poetry can linger in one’s mind throughout life.
Of course, I know that the messages you send and the thoughts you express are sincere, and for that I thank you.
@@livesandhistories Yes, you are right, imagination actually plays a big role there, probably bigger than we think, because sometimes you don't even really notice that line at all. And I guess often that line is actually pretty meaningless anyway. Some things do something to you, change something inside you, no matter if they are real or only happening in your head. Or both. Or none. Who knows.
That also reminds me that the line between dreams (I specifically mean the ones you experience whilst sleeping in this context) and reality can get very very blurry sometimes. I already am a lucid dreamer and I have them pretty frequently (If you don't know, a lucid dream is basically a dream in which you actually realize that you are currently dreaming. Sometimes it even goes as far as being able to control the dream to a certain degree. It is incredibly fascinating but also very weird sometimes.). But when I had Covid a couple weeks ago (which also was part of the reason I couldn't really properly watch this video, by the by), my dreams got super strange for a couple days, to a point where I had moments when I thought I was awake whilst actually dreaming and vice versa. And I also had long periods of being right "below the surface", kind of being half-asleep and dreaming but at the same time also being half-awake, which meant that dreams and reality would get interwoven in very surreal ways.
It is hard to describe, but the one thing I can say for sure is that that was a very weird experience. Again, kind of really fascinating on one hand, but on the other hand I must admit after a while I was a bit afraid of sleeping.
Dreams are very powerful. They can cause lifelong fears, they can also give you hope, they can tell you a lot about yourself and about what's going on in your head, but they can also be incredibly confusing. Sometimes I don't want to sleep. Sometimes I don't want to wake up from some dreams. Sometimes i want certain dreams to be reality and sometimes i hope certain realities are just dreams and nothing more. Sometimes i ask myself if there was a certain message behind the dreams i had last night. And sometimes I never want to have the same dream ever again. Sometimes dreams are at the same time unspeakably beautiful and unthinkably torturous.
There are even some dreams from my childhood that I still very distincly remember, even though most of my childhood is basically gone from my memory.
In that way dreams are very similar to art and especially poetry, I feel. They also can linger in your mind, eternally.
Ahh, you got me philosophising again :)
Often, I imagine my soul to be a tree. Often I imagine it to be a cat aswell. (How can something be a tree and a cat at the same time, you ask? For me, the answer is intuitive. But putting it into words is difficult. Perhaps Schrödinger could help.) Maybe it is also at the same time a poem. A particularly long one, no doubt.
I never really thought about it much, but you are absolutely right. Children's education starts very very often with little poems, rhymes, songs. It shows how central to all of our lives, to all of us, poetry really is. It is everywhere really, when you think about it. That is a good feeling, I ike that :)
Once I got taught a silly little song in school. It was about a cat with four legs. One in each corner. I will probably never forget that one.
I wish you a beautiful evening and I hope you will have great dreams :D
@@NoMercy8008 Oh, no! I am so sorry you suffered because of covid. I hope you have fully recovered by now. Please stay safe and look after yourself!
Thanks❤❤❤
Tragic life and mistreated
She deserved a better life. Thank you do much for watching.
May I ask, if I understood this detail correctly: she had naturally black hair but liked wearing blond wigs?
Yes, indeed.
@@livesandhistories Thank you for clarifying! And also for the video, it's a wonderful depiction of this very colorful personality, Queen Margot
Great story
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for watching Gabriela.
Marguerite was a wonderful woman and Queen for Navarre. I am sure Navarre loved her.
I am sure Navarre did not love a Catholic Queen. Alas, Henri did not love her either. They were apparently friends which is nice for her. I adored Margot and hope she found happiness after the annulment of their marriage
She should have found true love, the one thing missing from her most noble life. Just being daughter to DE Medici must've been trying enough. 'Plots, schemes, and palace intrigue off the wall.
Sadly, that's true. Thank you for watching, Nicco.
Who says she never found true love. The Lady was a player
Can you talk about the Moores? Most people have no ide about the outright racism behind the Running of the Bulls on Spain.
Never knew there was something behind that.I think there are other videos about the Jewish expulsion in the 1400s and also how The Moors were treated too.
@@esterherschkovich6499 Because as usual anytime someone brings up a Black Kingdom they always downplay it by mentioning a white group. It is a big difference between a group who today in modern times is scattered, and a group who has an entire country + military. Not to mention control of the worlds media. What is the last name of the creator of Facebook's name again?
How about doing Queen consort Johanna de Beaufort wife of King James, the Black Knight of Scotland?
Thank you for your suggestion Kitty. Will keep that in mind!
Beh Marguerite de Valois non era un angioletto...
I have a question about Henry the 8th whatever er happened to both of his sisters?
A LOT! Just for starters, Margaret was Queen of Scotland, & grandmother of Mary, Queen of Scots, & Mary was briefly Queen of France, & grandmother of Queen Jane Grey. There are LOADS of yt vids about them- I recommend the channels The Anne Boleyn Files & Scotland History Tours :)
One married Superman 😂
@@nancykay8995 Hmm... they had 5 husbands between them, & I spose you could call Mary's 2nd husband Charles Brandon "Superman" cos he survived being Henry VIII's best mate, lol, & even marrying Mary without his permission, but he was a jerk, as were Margaret's last 2. James IV was awesome tho, & died bravely in battle, so I vote for him!
(I'm sure you're making a joke about actors, but taking it literally amuses me cos I'm a dork :D)
She is an ancestor
Of whom? She had no children
*DIEU LE ROI*
🎂Margaret of Valois 05-14-2022
......and i thought my family had issues...... 😮
How are you doing actually iam new subscriber Arabic lady citizen we are as foreigners subscribers as overseas students want to increase our cultural level improve our English language as well i gathered main information about important figure you talked about briefly here it’s Margaret of Valois born in 1553 died in year 1615 she was French princess of Valois dynasty who became queen consort of Navarre. Later also of franch by her marriage of Henry 111 of Navarre later Henry 1v of franch at her husband in 1589 accession to latter throne she was confined. At chateau gailard after cool treatment caught cold and died another source state she was strangled to death her nick name Margot adopted. By prince William prince Henry as their great aunt Margot princess Margot prince Charles aunt she was 19 years old when her nephew born
There was so much hate between "religion people", that Henri was trying to humiliate Margot with open affairs and forcing her to leave..
Even she saved his life once, he will not return that favor to her in time when she will need a help the most, he will keep to humiliate her in front of the court till the end.
Disgusting time for women, even the titles and money would't help, even more disgusting is that parents were not trying to help, or to change the law for their female children!
Fact; not everyone should't be alowed to have children!
-Margot
-Dorothea
-Georgiana
and many, many more..