Method Man on Why Nelly’s Claims of Being in the Toughest Era of Rap Isn't Wrong
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2024
- Nelly made comments recently that the Rap era of 1999-2010 was the toughest of all-time. Legendary rapper Method Man weighed-in. #methodman #jayz #carmeloanthony
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Nelly ain't lying. That era of Hip Hop was heavy!
Yeah heavy with corporate suits all up in that ass!!!!!!!!👀🤣
90's shits all over that era
@@gman4011 it's subjective but that 2000-2010 era was something else when it comes to competition. Nelly is right - no one back than was stalking about regions per SE but focus was more about individual acts competing for top spots.
In late 90s it was east vs west. Now it's South vs everybody who is trying to do their sound since 2012. But that 00-10 time man... We had everybody with his own sound trying to overthrow the other. It was super hard to show something different that would be a hit.
Here Method focuses like you - more on debate whether 90s had more quality rap and his own block - NY vs the West in non Internet era. 2000s artist had to face way more competition to be seen
@@gman4011don’t you act like Atlanta wasn’t goin crazy in Nellys time. Texas was crazy too.
I agree. All of the rappers Nelly named were heavy hitters, burning up the charts, and their music was hot in the clubs, on the radio, at parties, and on music video programming. And most hip hop fans were into pretty much all of them because they were all great and unique in their styles. That made the market even more competitive, but not in a bad way, because we had a lot of great options to listen to. You really couldn't say anyone was trash back then.
Method a real one for shouting out Bone Thugs
BTNH 4 Eva
Realrap
He right though
Thanks, BTH is one of the GOAT group
BTNH influence is so widespread in music. It's amazing. My first love of hip hop went Rappin' 4-Tay, Da Brat, then Bone Thugs, in immediate succession, in that order. I even remember the day! Bone sold me frfr.
1995 - 2005 was the hottest 10 years era in hip hop
I agree with Nelly. That was hip-hop at it's peak as far as superstars. Dudes were going diamond, having #1 hits, #1 albums and getting played around the world.
Because it was telivised
they were going diamond because there was less pirated technology around
I’m a 90s Stan and even I agree with you! Late 90s to the mid/late 2000s is when hip hop BLEW and was making MONEY. If I’m not mistaken, most expensive videos were of that era too.
And no one sounded the same either
90s was craziest. Period
What Nelly means is during that time (99-08), Every region of the US was hot, fighting for one spot. Prior to the early 2000s, it was east vs west fighting the for the tidal of best rappers, for the most part.
I think thats a bit of a conflated thing. The coasts and the south were just separate markets back then.
@corduroycrook as someone from the south, I have to disagree. Back then, the airwaves were dominated by New York/California rap with a few southern artists, who were still niche.
It’s title. And simply… Rappers were better
They were separate markets early in that time. A lot of rappers who are considered legends in the South, I’ve never heard them played on New York radio. I’ve heard people in the South say they didn’t hear much Jay-Z.
Ugh it didn't have anything to do with regions bc the south been holding that for decades now...he simply meant the competition was tough bc everyone was heavy hitters.... nobody was beefing bout regions like in the 00s...it was big dog eat big dog
Nelly came out with his own style. You could see the East Coast influence but he had his own swag. He hit the game hard with straight classics. "Hot In Herre" Is a Top 10 banga.
Get any club or party jumpin everytime 😎 awww brings back memories 😭🤣😂
That was straight fire. I remember that from fall 2002 like it was yesterday.
He also was discovered by Mase’s manager and was managed by him.
It was Midwest... Which a little of each side including the south
there was no east coast influence lol..
Fun fact.....TPain wrote Low for Nelly but he passed so he gave it to Flo Rida. That's why the chorus says "Apple Bottom Jeans"
Facts
Saw that on CZcams as well
That makes sense, as the T-Pain hook even sounds like how Nelly would have said it.
With the (furrs) looking at (hurr)! Definitely intended for Nelly 😂
I ain’t even gonna front when I first heard it on the radio I went on limewire and typed “Nelly - Apple bottom jeans”
Forgot to mention OutKast, Jeezy, T.I., Gucci, Kanye
Exactly! You throw them in the mix too, mfs gotta see his point. That era, as far as competing with hits, was a different era. The eras before were great too, but that late 90's early 2000's run was crazy
Gucci? Jeezy? 🤔
@@grizzX17 Yeah, nope.
😂😂😂😂@@grizzX17
@@grizzX17 from 2000-2010.. Google when Jeezy and Gucci came out
The 90s was the most competitive era in Hip Hop. Don’t believe me. Watch. NWA, Dre, Warren G, Ice Cube, Snoop, Pac, Biggie, Nas, Jay. Puff, Mase, Wu/Tang. Bone, Thugs ,Oukast.Kim, Foxxy, Da Brat. The Fugees. Mob Deep, Dogg Pound. Redman, DMX, Eminem. Tribe called quest. KRS one. public Enemy.Busta Rhymes. Big Pun.Missy Elliot. LL,Rakim,DJ Quik. E-40, Too Short, Geto Boys. MC Hammer, And then you got the labels. Deathrow, Cash money. No limit, Rap a lot. The 90s were just a totally different animal
Nelly is talking more about sales and hits. The 90's are dope but hip-hop got bigger in the 2000's. The 00\s superstars are bigger.
@@BloodyJasonMask2 And three of those rappers started in the 90s . Jay, Em and DMx. And I just named over 30 rappers. All from the 90s. Thats a lot of competition.
@@jallison5457 Yeah but they peaked in the 00's. Just like how some of the rappers you named started in the 80's.
@@BloodyJasonMask2 can you name the amount of rappers that I mentioned? Bcus I didn’t name any scrubs. The 90s was a very hard era to compete in. You talking about record sells, I’m talking about the actual music. Theres a big difference.
@@jallison5457 That's cool but I'm talking about what NELLY himself is talking about.
Everybody knows music was better in the 90's.
He's talking about SUPERSTARS and competing for the #1 spot. That was harder in the 00's with huge global artists.
You got to add ja rule to that era also. He was putting big numbers on the board also.
Facts all were making hits back to back
Factz
Was looking for this comment
The thing about pre 2000's rap was that it was mainly East and West coast. Then the south exploded, having rappers emerge from Houston, Atlanta, N.Orleans, Memphis, Miami, so the competition really increased during that era.
90's had to deal with lots of shady record label shenanigans and 80's on back really had to struggle just to even get any kind of play. So every era had their battles.
He aint talking about the toughest era to get on, he's on about so many heavy hitters gunning for that top spot commercial wise
There were so many different sounds at that time, compared to now. Everyone is trying to sound the same to catch a wave!
💯
90-99 is the toughest era 2pac. Biggie. Jay Z. Nas. DMX. JA Rule. Wu Tang E40 Too Short Scarface Snoop Dr. Dre. Bone Thugs. Tribe Called Quest. NWA. Public Enemy Naughty By Nature. West Side Connection. Big Pun. Mase. Dogg Pound. Redman
Everybody had their own lane during the 90’s though. Everybody was able to eat
@@natividadsalinasii2629 & it made for great music
@@natividadsalinasii2629facts 💯 same with R&B that's is what so beautiful about the 90s
Nostalgia is one heck of a drrug. 2000's(98-08) hip hop and RnB were much better than its preceeding era.
It wasn't about the single guys in 90s it was east coast vs west coast. As long as one dude ate they all ate
Lets not forget about when Nelly and the St. lunatics did the Tip Drill video (uncensored)on BET Uncut 😂😂😂
Perv??? Maybe a little???
My guy! I ain’t heard anyone talk about BET uncut in forever. Yo, right after comicview late night like 12-2am or some shit. That was a good time in my life man! Thank you bro! Sliding the credit card in the crack and everything. What about bizzy bones song, “ ain’t nothing like money in a ziplock bag!?” Take care
That video and Get Crunked Up were my favorite videos from Uncut.
I had it on Dvix 😂 gave me a huge hard on back in the days
Never thought i’d hear Method Man mention Rodney O & Joe Cooley. Their song Everlasting Bass was a banger.
You and me both!!
That’s hard
Metroboomin also likes that song...😁
Seeing this after “ Like That” is wild lol
Nelly is speaking real facts, hes legend in the game from the mid- 2000s. Im still a fan
Definitely the toughest in terms of main stream and commercial success. Hip hop really started to hit it's financial stride during that era
1990-2000 was also a tough decade: Wu, snoop , Big, PAC, Nas, Jay, Bone Thugs etc
Lot of ppl dont know but Nelly hung out in Philly before he blew up. He was running with a Philly group name RAM Squad (Richard Allen Projects). This was like 95/96. I only know this because my cousin knew The Roots road manager and they knew RAM Squad
1990 to 2000 was the greatest 10 yrs era in HipHop period
That’s 11 years. But I can dig it and I agree.
Realrap
88-2000 check the hip hop catalogue
Facts
Meeeh. It def goes to like '05 or so...maybe 08-10
Meth, That Burgh fitted is CRAZY!
it's regular asl 😅 color wave not new, print standard, side patch coo... how's it "CRAZY"? other than it bein fresh off the line 🤔😂
Yeah... I dig.
Facts!!!! It’s tough!
Wu-Theme.
But Nelly never said that the other era’s wasn’t tough. He just said the 00’s was the toughest and he had a valid point.
St. Lunatics were an American hip hop group formed in St. Louis, Missouri, in 1993. The group consisted of childhood friends Nelly, Ali, Murphy Lee, Kyjuan, City Spud, and Slo Down. Their first hit, "Gimme What U Got", gained popularity in 1996. In 2000, the group signed with Universal Records. Their debut album, Free City, was released after Nelly's solo breakthrough, achieving Platinum status in the U.S. Members of St. Lunatics pursued solo careers, and Nelly opened a music production school.
Imagine being a new rapper in 99-2000 and your label telling you they maxed the budget on your label mates: Jay-Z, DMX, Luda, Ja- Rule, Method Man and Redman, LL Cool J, Foxy Brown, and Beanie Siegel.. And on top of that, they shelving your album cuz your producer they promised you working on all these other heavy hitters albums…. And that’s just your label! You still got Eminem, Nelly, OutKast, Hot Boys, Dr Dre’s Chronic 2001 album and a slew of other artist on other labels to compete against….
I’d be tight too… 😅
Shout out to Meth for mentioning Rodney O and Joe Cooley. Classic WestCoast shit. Check out "You Don't Wanna Run Up". Takes me back to my childhood. 80s baby!!!!
Nelly sort of had his own lane. He was all over MTV and TRL, which was white boy band and white pop princess dominated. He wasn’t competing with these other rappers. He was basically a pop star rapper.
Not really he was kind of Mase that a bunch of girls liked him. That first album wasn’t all that commercial and the lunatics first video was shot in a barbershop and hood club.
That type of comment leads people to believe you were born in 2005. There were rappers on TRL [MTV]! Nauseated. When you kids talk about things you didn’t live through.
@@jthorpe2458Whenever a rapper made it on the countdown or close to number one, it was a big deal, because Backstreet Boys, N’Sync, Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera dominated the list. @@jthorpe2458To even debate that is ridiculous.
@@SnookisInfant-gt8xuNelly was seen as a pop rapper. Catchy songs but not highly respected. I was there at Summer Jam 03 when he got booed out of the stadium.
@@basketballbicker8933A Pop Rapper to u Aint no way u gon tell me E.I ,Grillz,Tipdrill,#1 ,Air force 1s Country Grammer album is Pop
He Cleary said to sell records
I think he right that time frame had so many super stars
I think when it comes to best rappers it was the early to mid 90s
I think it’s true but because of the groundwork set by the ones before. In the 2000s hip hop was so popular more and more people joined, increasing the competition
Shout out to Meth for say Bone!!!
I feel like method man and Nelly aren’t talking about the same things.
Not at all
Meth going off on one. All that weed smoking done mushed his brains some
Zoom by the Commodores is the jam tho 😅
If Nelly would’ve dropped an album during the Biggie, Pac, Snoop, Dre, Cube era he would’ve been only Gold.
Straight double 🪵 wood
Nelly right that decade 99-2009 toughest era of rap
Early 90s and mid 90s was the hardest
Nelly came in with something different even though he wasn't as good as the other rappers he brought something new. Now everyone is actually alike I don't know what's going on
I remember Nellyville dropping right before my birthday in 2002. Hot In Herre was definitely a banger 🔥🔥🔥
I think that the 80's was the hardest ever because rap really didn't get much radio play
Nelly had to create a wave to compete. Big reason rap is mainstream now
I remember being at Summer Jam ‘03 in NJ/NY and Nelly got booed out the building. He was considered pop. He had a different audience in most cases. He was not competing with a DMX or a Nas, or a Jay-Z.
He was hotter than all of those dudes you listed and NY is known as being the biggest group of haters known to man
There was a decent size window when Nelly was easily the “hottest”. And was definitely selling more
@@jthorpe2458 He was the most commercially successful with white fans. He was probably outselling a lot of other rappers combined.
@@basketballbicker8933 to be fair… Every successful rapper is commercially successful with white fans. Nelly just had a period on top, similar to a Ja Rule
At some point y'all will realize that NYC is a very small fan base. You think bc he was booed from summer jam means what??? Also your recall is faulty..he only got booed when he started "dilemma"....but again summer jam wasn't stopping his motion soooooo.... everyone with commercial success is considered "pop" as its short for popular. What's your point?
Nelly was my favorite rapper. Country Grammer, Nellyville, and Sweatsuit are straight work. And that 98 to 2010 era was tough. But idk the 90’s was crazy
Da 90's was Hands Down!!!
Then, the Early 00's. NBA the 90's then the Early 00's. With MJ in the 90's to Kobe in the Early 00's.
Nelly an Underrated Legend had Hits for Days Put Some Respect on his Name.
P.S. it's 20 Years Since his Album
"Sweat/Suit" Btw 😅
Just say 2000's, buddy. No need to say "early 2000's", unless you're actually describing the early 2000's(2000-2002) and not the whole decade.
Method a real one for shouting out Rodney- O and Joe Cooley...
Nelly, DMX, EM, Jay Z, Outkast, Luda, Ja Rule, Missy, Dipset and Cam, 50 and G unit, 36 Mafia, Dupri-Bow Wow-Da Rat, Romeo and Master P, Weezy-Cash Money-Young Money, Gucci, Jeezy, Tip and Rick Ross
Snoop and Chingy too
method man my favorite rapper of all time!!! 💯 great interview
90s was hardly a picnic. Ice Cube, Snoop, Scarface,, Biggie, Pac, Hammer, Nas, THE DOC, groups as well Outkast, Bon thugs N Harmony, Wu tang clan, DO Or Die, TWista, E 40, LL COOL J was still happening in the 90's,
Its was a tough era for a different reason. I get the competitive nature to be the top guy, but the 80s and early 90s were fighting to give rap notoriety. Politicians trying to censor and ban NWA, having to create their own lanes in media (TV, magazines, radio, etc...). Those eras put in the groundwork so rapper can excel in the 200s moving forward.
I feel it was harder in the early to mid 90’s bc you didn’t have the exposure as later yrs, I mean I get what he’s saying about the competition but they had that in the 90’s too except you couldn’t go on the internet as a no name and have millions of ppl become aware of you and your talents
Man i wish he would've never stopped "Vokal" Their clothes were nice.
He said "hit record" referring to the height of hiphop hit record renaissance...before then, the groundwork was being laid. He's referencing the era when hiphop was hitting on an cylinders breaking through on another level and how many types people it took to do it.
I need that Pittsburgh hat ? Where did he get it from?
If he wants to look at it like that or he should be grateful that he came into an era where Hip hop was overtaking other genres and selling more units...
So his era was the peak of selling records...and hes the beneficiary of that
He's right and this is true for that generation for any other industry. Bob Jones said it's the generation of the best genes. Look at Britney and anyone else who is talented in that age group. Tons of competition. Look at the kids now and it's almost like broadcasting dead air for most but not all.
He ain't lying!!! I remember so many artists were poppin' and really breaking thru the industry. Lil Wayne was on every song/remix, DMX dropped 2 albums in one year, Ross came up, Jeezy was on fire, Snoop & E-40 had the West Coast, it was just so much competition then!!!
Being from New york is the toughest Era ever ever. So many great artist from New York that always found ways to diferent themselves from each other.
U can say the same thing about Atlanta.
@MrAWeezy86 no where near NYC..
NYC had artists dating back to the late 70's
@@blackcobra1981 We’re talking about hip hop and artists differentiating themselves from one another and having an era of being tough and u bring up the the 1970’s. 🤣🤣🤣. FOH. I stand on what I said. Atlanta has just as many top artists in the industry with different styles than New York.
@@MrAWeezy86 They don't but you can believe whatever you... Doesn't make true... There were hardly any Atlanta artists in the 70's and 80's to have different styles... Most of their artists now are mumble artists with Lil wayne looks.... Hip Hop didn't start in 90's 😆 😂
@@blackcobra1981 Never said it did. But hip hop in the 70’s and 80’s wasn’t nearly as popular. Not even close. And Atlanta artists are more popping than New York artists. Album of the year just went to Killer Mike, who happens to be from Atlanta. They have more than just mumble rappers. We can go artist for artist if u want and let the numbers speak for themselves.
I aint heard Rodney-O & Joe Cooley name in Forever. First Album i got from them was Fuck New York 1993. Damn so long ago
@1:28
Meth shouldn't suggest that r&b is a wrap, give it to Beyonce bc all the females who came up in the same era and more, were basically blackballed from the industry by design so that we couldn't continue to expand our culture.
It's not favorable to just have Beyonce the main voice we hear in r& b music. We had endless supply and choice b4 the 1st decade of the 2000s and b4 she went solo.
So we gone sit here and act like it didn’t take a minute for people to warm up to a country sounding rapper from St. Louis, huh?
Depends on the age group and if you been to st.louis they have southern connection
Nobody sat here and acted like that😂
Country Grammer went double platinum in the 1st month....didn't take that long.
Where in the world did you get that from? Wait, did you come here after watching a different video…
Perpetrator. You were not around when he dropped his first video. Or song. He came out hitting hard from the gate. I can't stand when yall act like yall was there.
Has the table always been made of crates lol this the 4th episode I watched. 😂
96 to 06 is the toughest era
Yup, before the ringtone era popped off
Coincidentally i started listening to rap from 1999 till 2008, exactly the era Nelly is talking about. And i am from South Africa.
Meth must be smokin meth if he thinks people on the West Coast weren’t listening to Kane 😂😂😂
I agree with everything.. back then was hard to come up. Where it was CDs store and stuff.. now everything is now rebooting sampling music 🙄
Meth said he listens to JODECI and New Edition! Ain't no shame in his game! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I'll say it for him male R&B R.Kelly back then.. Singing, Wrote ,produced etc can't take that away from him
I no kells did some shit but he still the king of R&B don't no body wanna bring his name up
@@chopfreddy6463 right I seen that
Timberland said it best. You gotta separate the artist from the art. R KELLY is the king of R&B.
Facts. And Beyonce hasn’t made r&b since the early 2000s.
I still remember them nelly videos
Meth is so strategic with his responses these days. After, mentioning R&B, he gave Beyonce the Queen of R&B. Then he safely articulated his favorites as the groups. He dared not suggest a singular R&B artist because he knows like mostly anyone else that one would be hard pressed to name any other King of R&B than RKelly. So, he glossed over that segment of his response.
It also appears that he doesn't believe Nelly was in the toughest era of HipHop. But, yet again he responded diplomatically.
I do understand that he is a man now, and has greatly matured, and must consider the backlash that his opinions can cause. However, truth is always preferred. And those who stand on it will mostly be celebrated, and rarely, if ever, hated, no matter how unpopular the opinion.
Meth is more politician than wordsmith revolutionary these days...
Feels like he's right too because Red and Meth was big then, the whole blackout/up in smoke, rocafella tour, cash money thing it all felt like a golden age of music where as earlier felt like bronze and silver. that was my youth, Texas with lil flip and mike jones, then we had b2k and those groups.
Meth said Portrait! I ain’t heard mention of them in years! Here We Go and Honey Dip was my joint!
That era was tough. But guys from old school was still in the game too.
I think what Nelly meant by the toughest era, was in regards to the amount of superstars there were in Hip Hop at that time. If that is what he meant, I agree with him 100%.
For Meth to mention Rodney O & Joe Cooley and that Kendrick "dis" track was from Metro Boomin's track that SAMPLED Rodney O & Joe Cooley's Everlasting Bass....must be applauded. I had their album (actually cassette) back when I was in high school. Respect!
Another point is that it was also that era when illegal downloading music was a huge problem which also really affected record sales for those artist, so i can understand Nellys opinion
To judge the toughest era, is to judge the toughest people and their level of creativity. The farther back, the less refined and less relatable, although they paved the way. Then things branch off into two, raw, and commercial. And different flavors depending on personal style and geographic location. It’s very hard to judge as to who’s the greatest because everyone had hits and several songs within their albums that were dope. It was just a very great time in richness and great for indulging. If you were tired of hearing one song or artist after so many times, you’d go to another, get bored of that one, and then back to the other. People were very spoiled even though they’d hate to admit or see it that way, just because it’s hip hop and R & B
The wu , biggie, Tupac,nas, dr Dre, snoop dogg, bone thugs, etc. I still think the 90s will never be duplicated . But everyone has their own opinion.
He didn’t wanna hate 😂
That but it's also he knows he was in that era tryna fit in and have a lot of garbage songs from tryna do so in that era.
bone did it first tho!!! 😂😂😂 method man a real one tho 😂😂
@@burningspliffsshut up kid method man is a legend he don't have to fit in he was in. Troll attempt fail
@@marcosbeltran8736shut up
Shout out to Meth for shouting out Portrait!!! Jodeci without a doubt were the epitome as male RnB groups but there were many others like Portrait, Silk, Shai, Lo Key , UNV, H Town, Jagged Edge, Mint Condition, Troop, NE, Blackstreet, Boys II Men, 112, Dru Hill, Next, and the list is just as long with female groups! I'm a true Hip Hop head going back to 83 seriously.... but when it was time to get with a lady, club, dance, vibe, chill, get intimate or nice long drive... damn that Hip Hop.. I wanted my RnB!!
You can’t tell a man who’s been through everything that you’ve had it as rough as he has.
As time goes on hip hop became more globalized which makes its more accessible and more lanes for opportunity . So i would say the 90s is alot more harder than the early 2000s
Every era of rap was like a battle rap scene up until 2010 imo
Only dudes movin units Em Pimp Juice and Us…
bro that shh was so hard and was true af
It's like Big and Pac died and there was this fight for who would reign supreme. The 90s was tough, but everyone had their own lane. 99-2010? SHEESH!!! Every region was popping and the competition was off the chain. Who would have the #1 single, album, and there was no social media so music videos were like full-on movies. As far as competition, I get where Nelly is coming from. Things weren't as "buddy-buddy" as there are now, BEEF DVDs and World-Star were popping and it was just a slug fest.
I agree with everything you just say.
Meth with the Portrait shout-out.
We say we’re from Miami not Florida and I have to agree with Nelly he had to go against some tough talent don’t forget how Ja Rule, T.I , Jeezy, T-pain and the list go on 99-2009
Bro from the beginning of the 90s to 2012 that was the golden era of this generation feel sorry for all those who missed it
Yo i was born in 76 and the 90's was the toughest era Realrap
METH ROCKIN OUR PITTSBURGH CAP HEAVY 💪🏽 SALUTE TO SAM SNEED #C.R.E.A.M.
the Def Jam building had it the toughest
I can't remember the era I think between 1994/2000 was 🔥....Listening to DJ mix tapes...DJ Ron G,Kidd Capri,DJ Juice and more...
i think now is the toughest era... millions of rappers1000 who are good hard to stick out of rappers world wide and big shoes to fill
Melo's jacket is nice as hell
Lit ep
You see how the rappers majority say X first in a particular time.
Man... 1990 - 1999 was the toughest era! Nas, Wu-tang, UGK, Outkast, The Fugees, The Pharcyde, Tupac, Big Pun, Juvenile, The Hot Boyz, Bone Thugz, Biggie Smalls, Busta Rhymes, Snoop, Dre, Ice Cube, etc.
86 - 98 was a great ride in Hip Hop.
"why do you have a headband on Billy?" 💀😂😂😂
Can't believe he didn't mention Nas tho
80's was the toughest error because we had to deal with corporate record labels that didn't believe in hip hop or see its potential
The 90 was toughest er for actual rappers (content and lyricism, real beef). The 2000s was the toughest era for commercial rap. Both were special, but the nod goes to tge 90s. Because they made it commerical.
What?! Early 94-99 had Wu-Tang, Nas, Tupac, Biggie, Jay Z, Dr. Dre, Snoop, BoneThugs, Onyx, Tribe Called Quest, De la Soul. West Coast.. Actual talent. 99-2010’s might be #2