Making This Zero Clearance Miter Saw Fence - Woodworking - Workshop
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- I made this to replace the original fence completely. It adds support near the blade and reduces the amount of tear-out. It's also higher on both sides for extra support.
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I made this to replace the original fence completely. It adds support near the blade and reduces the amount of tear-out. It's also higher on both sides for extra support.
More detail and the exclusive followup video in the build article:
ibuildit.ca/projects/making-a-miter-saw-fence/
Hey John, thinking about the dust collection and thought if you enclosed the back of the fence and connect it to your dust collection. Then put some slots thru the fence face. Wondered how that might do for dust collection. Frank Howarth has this on his radial arm saws. czcams.com/video/Rwd6i3UmbMI/video.html
Yeah,
I was thinking the same thing about enclosing the back for dust collection before the video was half way through.
(Please put the various 'Blade Guards' in place.) Despite guard placement...
A Great Project Video!
I’m guessing you handmade all those clamps , table saw guides an inserts …. You sir are freaking talented!!!!!!!
Holy moly! Could have used this video yesterday! Spent the whole day building a new fence for my saw. Now I have to dismantle what I built and build this one. Great idea john.
Dude couldn’t resist after all the time I’ve learned stuff from you. Pay back time. Life is short, I’m getting older. I’m finally a patron , well you know what I mean. I been wanting to ask you some dumb or not so dumb questions for years now. Finally get my chance. I’m a slow starter so don’t hold your breath. I enjoy watching you work and listening to your ideas and or raves. I know I’ve watched this particular video at least four times and still trying to figure out if I can alter my beginners miter saw. I tend to lose focus so that’s my excuse. Gonna cut some plywood as soon as I relocate the cat in my garage. No joke, hopefully the last stray I take in for years to come. Working on it now.
Nicely done John! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
I noticed that fancy wipe you did there
The one at 3:28, yeah pretty fancy.
So that's wot that's called, l thought John had TOT moment with his time machine 🤔😎
Yeah I loved that, wasn't expecting it.
I love the constant development. Your previous zero clearance fence add-on was also very well designed.
Looks great for zero clearance and less tear out on taller pieces. I just worry about the sawdust collection. Keep us updated, I'd like to see your long term satisfaction with the new fence.
I love your skills and the ideas you come up with to make things for a home shop to help us wood workers have safe equipment to get the job done and save money too! Your creativity is very admirable indeed, you remind me of old wood shop teacher! Ohhhh....there's my age showing again! Hahahaha......
I do enjoy the ingenuity coupled with the epic music.
Those dividers were sweet!!!!
Looks like an approach to also improve the dust collection. My miter saw is absolutely terrible in this regard and this would really help with a few modifications.
I saw the pictures on your Instagram and I loved what you made there. At the time I got the notification of this video I was very busy working on my new video (it took me more than 20 hours to edit) Now it's finally online I got some time to lean back and watch videos to relax. I like how you made the fence with the curved strengthening in the back. Oh yeah, I also like the transition you made on 3:30, You saw my video, I have a weakness for stuff like that LOL. Greetings C
You videography was top notch here. A joy to watch. The fence project was also very well done.
Terrific replacement fence John, well done! Just another thing that I will have to do to my saw......
With zero clearance fence miter saw can be very precise and useful tool. I mean woodworking also, not only for rough cutting on building sites. I haven't used mine for many years, but now I have to set it up when starting do moldings to new doors and floors.
3:35 love keeping a tape measure in the scrapwood cabinet because you always leave the other tape measure across the room. Lufkin’s Law.
Nice work, John and great idea with the semi-circular bridge (functional and looks good).
Absolute Nice result on that fence and good website article.
Now i'm gonna look on patreon just go see it again!👌👍
Looks amazing, thank you for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nice one John. I may just adopt your idea on my sliding compound saw. Thanks.
This new fence just screams MITRES!! It looks functional, looks very rigid, and also very eye pleasing.
I would try adding vertical braces near the mitre cut slot but it would look as if it were slapped together from scraps.
Your solution looks even sturdier and more elegant. Nice job!!!
Nice, elegant solution.
Great idea John and well filmed. Than you.
Looks good John.
That cut at 3:30 .... Perfect!
John - greatly trust your ingenuity in the shop. Been looking for "space requirements" for using different machines effectively. For example: Can I get by with 6 foot infeed to my miter saw or do I need to allow almost 8 feet. Can I get by with 4 foot outfeed on my miter saw or do I need more room. A video series on what minimum clearances we need to allow would be very beneficial. Thanks for what you do for the rest of us.....
Very nice John.
I desperately need to do this for my saw!
*Amazing work man* 🔥🔥
Bonsoir John, très bon travail, comme d'habitude et très bonne idée
Just what I needed John. The fence on my Evolution saw is not brilliant is will have a look and adapt this for my saw.
In one word, "Brilliant"!
Hey John, I really appreciate your carefree approach to working in the shop. When I built a zero clearance fence, I had to remove the dust collection boot on the blade shroud. Coupled with the high fence, I found a lot of cuttings end up in front of the fence and on me when the blade was ahead of the fence. So I removed the fence and work around the breakout on the back of the work piece. I was just wondering if you or others were having similar experiences. I know 180 degree booth enclosures are being used with some success.
Cheers
I mentioned this in the build article. Dust collection is improved for smaller parts with this, but worse with wider pieces. Overall, I don't see the issue as something needs to be solved - it is a workshop, after all, so some dust will fly :)
Great video 👍 nice looking fence 👍
Great thanks for your videos
A greeting from Spain
More engineering goodness. You always have cool ideas.
I half joked in an earlier post about you making your own miter saw and here you are. Not a full saw but you're inching your way to it : ) Great video and good idea. I need to make one, mine sucks. Love the end credit music. Very cinematic.
This is typically how it goes: I start tinkering and invest some time to improve it, then the next thing you see is a homemade version to replace the original :)
Interesting approach to use arches at both the bottom and top. That might lend itself to easy improved dust collection as others have pointed out.
Great work John 🤔😎
Accurate work!
Dud your great... love your work
This looks like a really nice fence. That’s a great idea making it in one piece like that. You mentioned that the dust collection isn’t that great on account of the small cut out for the blade. What if you drilled a bunch of small holes on either side of the cut out, sort of like on a downdraft table? Then you could enclose the rear part and fit a vacuum hose in there, or connect it to the existing dust collection opening back there somehow? Not sure if it would work, just a thought!
I like that fence John, I have noticed that mitre saw fences are usually too short. I too rarely use my mitre saw with the blade out of plumb, it is tall skirting boards that make it an occasional requirement !
My kobalt 10 in fence was a little u shaped in the aluminum so every cut was an explosion at the end, made this today and works great thx
Same with my Ryobi... terrible quality.
Good morning John. I have been considering doing about the same thing for dust collection. I figure the bottom plate in the saw don’t need to be cut through (make it thicker) leaving a closed channel, then make a fence much as you just did with the top and bottom left solid (not cut out) . Close in the back and add a vacuum port and there you have it. Thanks John! You are very creative!
My saw don’t have the arm sticking out as yours does; I’m not sure what that is for.
I had not seen your video on making a zero clearance insert, so you are ahead of me on leaving it closed on the bottom. Thanks John!
Its a sliding saw (think radial arm saw)
Yep that’s what inspired my thoughts, I have been looking at how others have been doing dust collection on radial arm saws as a means to use on a sliding miter saw. Thanks Kip!
Nice build, John. I had to replace the fence on my miter saw with something similar a few years ago because the cast part that served as the fence was not terribly straight. Question: does the piece that you added to reduce the flex in the fence make it more difficult to secure the fence to the base plate? It looked from the video that you came down over the fence with your ratchet wrench; I assume there is enough clearance to come around the side? Again, nice build as all your builds are.
Nice
Nice. Thumbs up.
I have this exact same saw. It's the previous generation Hitachi C12RSH. The thing weighs a ton. Excellent saw for the money and the sliding rails do not move backwards so I can put it right up against the wall. I picked mine up at Lowe's for $275 when they went on clearance. Question. Does your zero clearance insert allow you to make bevel cuts? Or do you have to remove it first?
Nice build. I have a Metabo and the fence isn't straight at all. The table is out of level a bit as well. I will be building a fence similar to yours and filing the table flat. Last time I buy Metabo, but I really wanted the zero clearance slide. Lesson learned.
Hey john is there a reapn why you couter sink before you pilot? I thought the pilot would help align the sink
Спасибо за интересный вариант решения проблемы.
John do you think this fence you built help control the dust and direct it to the back of the saw better than the factory fence you removed in addition to the improved saw cut!
I have a question for you. I have recently found a vintage 50s craftsman table saw. 10 inch blade on the Craftsman 24 x 24 heavy square stand with casters. The factory wrench is still there. I think the original steel blade is still there. The one on it now is carbide tipped. The arbor bearings catch a little bit and you can feel the individual balls rolling around in their races.
The electric motor is a 1 hp and it still has the craftsman sticker on it. It still has the original Craftsman micro adjust fence and miter gauge. The original throat plate is still there.
The electric motor still runs but the shaft wobbles just a little bit on the pulley end.
The top is the extra heavy duty cast-iron with steel. It also has both cast-iron extensions. Other than the fact that it has sat in a garage and surface rusted and needs to be semi-restored, do you think it’s worth purchasing and fixing it up? Thank you.
Oh yeah, why would the electric motor have keyways on both ends but only have one pulley mounted on one end?
How does your dust get collected after adding this 0 clearance awesome fence? I assume most of the dust will be in the front of the fence, and you can just clean manually???
Thanks
That was pretty cool John. That would look great on my shitty chopsaw. It would probably double its value, lol.
nice!
Like it.
Hi. I wonder why we have to make zero clearance throat? Thanks
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Just wondering 🤔 when you added the “next day changes” adding the additional top piece with the hoop, don’t you still have to saw through it? Sawing through it would take the rigidity out of it, correct? Yes? No?
Hey John, very nice. I am curious what this does for dust extraction. I feel that it would make it less effective. Of course that was not the design parameter that you were interested in, so no big deal. Perhaps it was a trade-off
I had the same question, however you are right, this design makes most of the dust in front of the fence and collecting manually no big deal. I think spending time to build dust collection for wood cutting on chop saw is inefficient and not needed. I don't consider saw dust as the fine dust like sanding that needs real attention.
🤔 just wondering about the next days changes. Don’t still you cut through the extra hoop at the top? With cutting it it seems an extra step taken in not needed? Yes? No?
Which is the best 12 inch sliding mitre saw for shop use only, fixed to work bench in shop ? Hitachi 12 inch ? Need accuracy, stability for mortise joint work. Don’t want to use a table saw for mortise cutting, too scared to use a table saw. Thanks
Thank you for sharing this great design, may I ask what the ‘tool’ lying on top of your table saw fence is ? Thank you
Look at his other videos to see!
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Great design thanks for sharing, may I ask what the ‘tool’ lying on top of your table saw fence is? Thank you
It's a wrench for changing the blade on the saw. He's got a video on it.
John, can I ask your opinion on Radial Arm Saws? What do you think they have drop out of popular use?
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John I know this isn’t a sexy build but this was an awesome build. I personally can’t imagine replacing my fence on my miter saw. But you did it and made it look easy....although I probably still won’t attempt it.
Great video and very entertaining. Great job. 👍 👍
I think it's sexy...
:)
What kinda saw do u have its a beast
Great video!!! 👍👍👍👍👍 And are you planning to rebuilt the rest of the saw in wood? That would be nice!! 😀😀😀
Actually... a homemade radial arm saw is on my list of upcoming projects :)
@@JohnHeisz Shut up and take my money... for plans for that :^)
@@JohnHeisz I CAN'T WAIT 🙃🙃🙃
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Nice fence design. I would suggest that you add 2 access holes into the upper support piece so you could get to the mounting bolts with your socket wrench without having to remove the upper support piece.
How often do you adjust or remove the fence on yours? Holes in the top are unsightly and are not really needed.
Круто!
That wood is going to warp in a few year.
👍👍👍
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Мля у него струбцины самодельные! О чём ещё говорить.
I have the same Saw with a Dewalt rolling stand for sale! HMU
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I see this as a waste of time. I just nail two pieces of 1x4 or 6 like a half wooden miter box you know L shaped. Cut many many pieces of small trim like 1/4 round or shoe molding . I do this for a living or I use to.
You might see it as a waste of time but you aren't the one using the saw everyday. What works for you might not be what others want.
@@KipdoesStuff Sorry but I did use the saw every day all day or did you not see that I wrote that on my comment. I was a finish carpenter until I retired and considered to be one of the best.
P.S. I still have all my fingers too.
I will be making this fence for our miter saw station at the production shop. I'm fucking tired of off cuts flying everywhere...