Why Do We Love Coconut Mall So Much? | Mario Kart Wii
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2020
- Coconut Mall from Mario Kart Wii just...hits different than other courses, why is that?
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Most tracks feel like a racetrack that's themed like a whatever. Coconut Mall feels like a mall that's being used as a racetrack.
Most tracks feel like a racetrack that's themed like whatever and given a thin coat of mushroom kingdom paint. Coconut Mall feels like what a mall would feel like if it were in a specific, pre-established Mario location and then adapted slightly to become a racetrack.
When a comment has just about 200 likes, and so little replies, you know it's a good one
Daisy Cruiser is kinda like that
That’s why I also love Warios Goldmine since it doesn’t look like a race track but you can still race in the mine
Yeah, Mariokart Wii has got the best tracks and its all due to just this fact here, that people like them as a place in the mario universe rather than just a race track.
"I would be happy if Coconut Mall made an appearance in every single Mario Kart *course"*
Ambitious opinion but I can't disagree
DID I SAY THAT? NOOOOOOO
Rainbow road, but suddenly a section of coconut mall
@@AdamTheGameBoy Crystal Coconut Plaza
"One of the most popular Mario Kart courses aside from Mario Kart Wii"
@@AdamTheGameBoy The Coconut Mall at the end of the universe
Coconut mall really makes you FEEL like you're driving through a mall.
Just wish it were real
Coconut Mall really makes you FEEL like Spider Man.
@@nathandoan5717 czcams.com/video/xpqR7fPyl00/video.html a guy literally drove through a mall and someone put coconut mall music over it
But the best thing is playing coconut mall in a mall
I wish dunkey still did stuff like Among Us Tuesdays
Coconut Mall feels like a perfect location for a Sunshine Sequel.
Yes give them ideas
Y e s
Super Mario Mall Theft
New zones!
Coconut Mall
Papay Waterpark
Pianta Villas
Cheep Cheep Beach
Keep going, hopefully they'll hear you
I never knew about the yellow pianta pointing to the correct escalator...
Same! Middle school me had to memorize which side was the better escalator.
I played MK7 more, there there were arrows
Me neither and Ive played it for 11 years now...
same. i always just look at the escalators
@@reuben7320 I, who’s owned the game since I was 3, with practically the entire game memorized, didn’t know about this.
8:49 "I don't see any meat anywhere."
Well there is this fun little course called Moo Moo Meadows.
not the cows 😂
P.S I'm team cow
Oh no
Let's build a racetrack there cuz f*ck nature, bro!
It's a drive through mall with coconuts. What's not to love?
That you can't go in the shops
@Arrowhead 4:29 "can't"
the fact that there are no Coconuts that are bonking you, through the course
I miss when the Mii’s were part of official Nintendo games like this and Wii sports, it gave those games such a warm and immersive feeling.
One thing I've noticed is that when new Nintendo games have something, nobody cares about it until future games take it away.
@@lol-ih1tl I mean, I always found it fun seeing my miis in coconut mall, it's more that people are more likely to speak when a fun feature is removed, compared to a fun feature being added.
@@psychicchicken5263 fun fact: Miis do not appear on Split screen in Coconut Mall (except for the ones in the cars)
Imagine playing breath of the wild and then boom mii
@@coyrex1250 Funny you should say that, BOTW actually uses Miis as a sort of base for the characters!
Koopa Cape also captured my heart for some reason too. I think the dynamic music mixed with the atmosphere of entering the tube (filled with janky shock thingies) probably did it for me
I also love that huge ramp at the start of Koopa Cape. Koopa Cape, Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway and Mario Kart Wii's Rainbow Road are some of my favorite courses out of any Mario Kart game!
@@Aidea._. yep all of these here ❤️
@@Aidea._. Yes, those and I would also include Toad Factory and Mushroom Gorge :)
I think it’s safe to say that Mario Kart Wii has the best line up of tracks to race on. I hope that the MK8D Booster pass includes the Rainbow Road tracks from Wii and DS as those are the most dynamic tracks ever.
I didn’t even notice the painta was pointing to the right side. I just remembered that the escalators switch each lap
Because I ALWAYS GO TO THE WRONG ESCALATOR
how and why??? O.o
Fr how you go the wrong way
Smg
seriously how do you
You know, this makes me think that it's a real missed opportunity that there's no New Donk City stage in Mario Kart. I could imagine it being like the festival section, with New Donkers cheering you on and a track suspended in the air that twists around the skyscrapers or even goes inside some of the buildings.
There has never been a mario kart game made after Odyssey
Mario kart tour
crazy fire Mario kart tour wasn’t an actual Mario kart game
Maybe not on consoles but still an entry
@@Tranman64 There could have been dlc. Don't know why Nintendo hasn't released dlc for deluxe yet and I don't think they will ever.
The idea of driving in a mall is super cool to me.
And the music is probably the first theme I think of when someone talks about Mario kart wii.
Riding up elevators too?
That's never been done before and I love it.
Relatablity has been reached good job comment man
WHY ARE YOU EVERYWHERE!?!?!
you mean escalators lol
You can ride up escalators with a bicycle or motorcycle in GTA San Andreas, though. I'm sure there's a game before that where you drive up an escalator. Also I like assuming you're Dutch because you made the classic Dutch mistake of saying "to ride" when you meant "to drive", since "driving" is "rijden". :)
@@Pixiuchu
I just thought of Markiplier, Jacksepticeye, and Wade playing GTA V and trying to squeeze a whole car into the subway
The music alone sounds like something used in a comedy skit of someone skipping through the mall and doing a shopping montage before getting on an elevator before 'restarting' the same routine.
That’s exactly what I see
the music is just the typical "wacky upbeat childhood nostalgia game song". Mario Kart 64's OST had that type of energy to it too.
Coconut Mall was always my favorite growing up, there's so much to do
oh yeah I chose the escalators on reaction, I didn't know about the Pianta pointing until recently
@@supermarioplumberbros4839 I didn't either and I've been playing/watching people play this game since it first came out. When he mentioned that I was like wow I never noticed that. That's a cool little detail
"...so you could see someone else's Mii run you over, or whatever, that'd be pretty funny right?"
.......
The metal curves you talked about, I believe the were shutters. Like when one of a mall's shops are closed and the either have metal bars os something akin to a garage door shutting it off.
for non-scripted this is REALLY good, you were very clear through and through and i am halfway through a bottle of champagne and could STILL understand you
great work! subbed
Oh no Peter Griffin ran me over
"H-Hey lowish, remembah dat time i was in mariah kawt?"
Jesus ran me over once... still not sure how to feel about that
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@@jamieyakimets839 Jesus took the wheel
Oh no, Steven Universe ran me over
COCONUT MALL'S MUSIC IS GREAT, TOO!!
Friendly reminder about June Zoom's 3rd Rule:
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I think it's safe to say your June Zoom has been a total success already! Each video so far has been so well made in such little time and have even been performing well! Keep up the great work dude!!
Feelings on the 3DS remake??
@@criticaldel It took away all the Mii stuff!! I haven't played on it long enough to form a full opinion, but that really bums me out ;~;
ZoomZike omg thanks for replying!! :’) And I believe that MK7 made the Wii tracks bland and boring. And the did my favorite wii track, maple treeway, so dirty.
Man, me and my brother loved spending time just hanging out in the courses on vs mode. Going in reverse, checking every corner of the tracks, creating our little stories with the characters... I'm pretty sure that we have more time spent in this game playing "our own way" instead of just racing normally. Coconut Mall is without a doubt one of my favorite courses in the entire franchise. Great video, Zoom, it's really impressive that you made such a cohesive analysis on your first take! It's says a lot about your talent.
That’s very wholesome
Never knew there were people who actually went around tracks checking out what’s going on outside of the race
Something I like about the music is that it usually syncs with the sections of the track, the piano in the main room, the sax in the Coconut Garden, and the accordion for the food court and the parking lot
i would love to hear your thoughts on the new one, i see you've already acknowledged the new comments talking about it
i have... a lot of personal gripes with it. i think they sucked a lot of life out of the original
here's what i discovered:
-new one removes the huge scale of the original, with no visible lower floors or higher floors and any higher balcony shown is empty with no spectators
and you can BARELY see inside any of the stores, making it REEEALLY feel small. it is weird..
-no miis
-parking lot is static
-elevators have huge arrows on it showing which way to go, which sucks because it diminishes the immersion of driving through a mall and it ruins the fun of choosing the wrong one. not to mention, the og had a pianta actually pointing at which one to go, which the new one does not have for SOME reason
-all the plants look artificial, especially the flowers. they made all of the flowers super small...
the coconut/palm trees dont even have coconuts in them anymore, they look like inflatable decorations due to the flat patterns on them
-they removed the "have a nice day!" and "thank you!" signs, really ruins the warm feel of the original
-the "coconut mall" logo on the front now just has the Super Mario font with less colors, also removing the pianta above it
-a lot of the color feels botched...it focuses on orange WAY heavier than the original with highly saturated colors. it makes the mall not feel as widely appealing
-that BIG coconut mall beach ball in the middle is just GONE???????
...that's all the main gripes i have with it
to not be 100% negative, i will mention changes i like
MKTV trucks are aplenty outside, all those red arrow signs from mariokart wii present here are replaced with actual things!
few examples: vending machine in the food court area, more roomy walls at the entrance of the stage, there's an actual parking lotto thingy in the parking lot area
the shortcut areas look nicer, you can actually see how you drive through a clothing store and the one at the end has new flooring which helps make it feel like a different path
the ocean within the parking lot area has rock formations and a cruise (i wonder if its daisy cruise? just a thought.)
that's it
8:49 "I don't see any meat anywhere."
Me: *It's all in front of you cheering for you!*
2:50
"The dress itself was confirmed as a royal blue "Lace Bodycon Dress" from the retailer Roman Originals, which was actually black-and-blue in colour; although available in three other colours (red, pink, and ivory, each with black lace), a white and gold version was not available at the time."
-Wikipedia
Didn't know I'd ever watch a fifteen minute video essay on why I like coconut mall.
8:14 Lmao that menu probably can't even be read with the Wii's native resolution 😂😭
The 3DS has lower resolution but the text is more readable in Mario Kart 7
IT'S BACK!
"Unable to create a ghost"
I hope you're proud of yourself.
Coconut Mall makes you want to go back and actually visit/explore the mall and shop. It almost has this theme park feel to it as well, in the sense that it would be an event to go visit.
Honestly making me want to go back and slowly inspect the courses I raced through as a kid. So many details that go unnoticed!
Its colorful, vibrant, and as a kid, the idea of driving inside a mall seems super cool and a fantasy you realize you dont want until you see it. Also that little mario touch is just neat.
Who else is here after seeing that Coconut Mall is going to be a DLC in MK8D?
“There’s Toilets, their amazing” great line
Some things I think are quite underappreciated are the ramps and how they're positioned, whether it's the water fountain or whatever, there's lots of different opportunities to trick off it, you could either just drive around, go over the top, or do a side trick. Plus, the music flows so well, I played the course on time trials a lot, so I remember where every part of the music fits each part of the course, such as when the accordion kicks in at 45 seconds, which always happens when I reach lap 2. I get that feeling with other courses, but none feel quite as satisfying as this one.
1:48 I always believed that the stairs change direction for each lap
Same but the more I think about it the less sense it makes. Like who's lap does it consider? What about online mode? Knowing that it's just set intervals makes way more sense
@@petermarsella6537 actually, it isn't by laps, it's by time.
It's just the fact that the direction was changed when I completed a lap
Coconut Mall's music is a meme for a reason. It's so open yet also so detailed and lively! That and it captures the most memorable parts of malls like the multiple floors that allow you to see the ones below and above you, water fountains, escalators, plenty of posters, people who drive carelessly, etc. When playing Sonic Robo Blast 2 Kart that has this track modded into it, everyone votes for Coconut Mall. It's a track that makes me so happy and one I hope continues to encapsulate the craziness of malls and Mario Kart.
Besides, cars driving around in malls isn't unusual.
Absolutely!!
honestly, these last two videos, are kind of reminiscent of the old days of let’s plays, where they were commentated live amd it was just the youtuber’s thoughts while they were playing the game. and that’s p good imo
I played this with my mom one night and she actually said this was her favorite stage and would always say “can we play on the mall one”.
I love how easily you can snap this course in half :>
I just love the music and the short cut that goes through the store.
I always loved the aesthetic of coconut mall and all the places you could explore, I remember loading it up and not even racing, just exploring all the little things everywhere!
Becase coconuts are funny
And also weapons of mass destruction
Baby baby dadadada baby baby
I feel like im missing context, What does Persona 3 have to do with Mario Kart Wii?
@@sasaki999pro Because Aigis was secretly a motorcycle the whole time.
Burn my tread
@sasaki999pro @Slenderquil Ramcharge or just because everything is a persona reference
OH YEAHHH BDAADDA DA DA BADDA DA DA DUHHH
@@sasaki999pro go to the damn lyrics and you'll find the reference
I've been playing this game for 10 years and I never knew about the piantas. Also, the music here slaps.
In Super Nintendo World the amusement park, I want to be able to shop at Coconut Mall.
Coconut Mall represents a happier time when the miis lived on Isle Delfino, before they started their own competitor island in the form of Wuhu.
Sunshine Airport might be the Coconut Mall 2.0 when Mario Kart 8 Deluxe nostalgia becomes a thing in the late 2020s and early 2030s.
Well… I would take that back now xD Coconut Mall is gonna be nostalgic once again with MK8D
Literally was just watching this guys videos at 2 am and was really happy when I saw he uploaded a new video. New sub
It's 3:00 am in my country and i can't sleep HELP ME
hacking the day just got finished drawing and I still can’t sleep
Personally I LOVE one take videos because they capture RAW emotions
As you travel to parts of a stage emotions are stirred and revealed, whether it's sheer frustrating due to a difficult part, or pure joy due to sharing a discovery or going through your favorite area.
Its just adorable sometimes
I wouldn't say emotions are forced in scripts but they definitely feel suppressed to maintain a "professional" presentation
Coconut Mall, Maple Tree Way and Koopa Cape were my favorites as a kid. On the whole, Mario Kart Wii had some solid race courses that are just fun to race through while also providing some interesting aesthetics.
I never actually buy anything at malls but I love going to them. And I have a lot of memories as a kid and a teenager going to malls and hanging out with friends and stuff and they were nostalgic and fun and usually designed pretty well too. I think they captured that well as well as bringing in a fantastical element and the music fit perfectly
"There's a pianta that points towards the right escalator"
Wish I knew that long ago.
Once, to lighten the mood of a particularly competitive MKW session with my siblings, I drove up to the burger place near the end of the course, parked, and pretended to order a huge fast food meal as Funky Kong.
My place in the race sucked, but my siblings were laughing, so my plan worked perfectly.
Also, Coconut Mall's music is 👌
This is something I should totally do
Just the amount of people who drove through the mall and that music that refuses to be hated just coexist perfectly here, and who else but Mario to capitalize on such a winning formula?
Absolutely!
it’s gotta be the music. probably one of the most iconic tracks from wii if not the entire mario kart series
Him: explains why we like this stage
Me explaining why I like it to my friend: it’s a mall
1. the song slaps
2. The track is just flat out fun
You forgot to mention it has the best out of bounds glitch in the series
I always loved urban/social places ( mushroom city/toad harbor/super bell subway/sunshine Airport etc) turned into tracks for the mario kart series
I never realised that pianta points at the right escalator. This course has so many details!
I love the love the little things of things in games I reamber sometimes I just looked around in sonic adventure levels I just adore the ashetic. I'm really glad people talk about many of these little design stuff, I thought I was like the only one. srry for spelling.
As a kid I thought the metal things the piñatas added were domino inspired walls
I think Coconut Mall is probably the most iconic Mario Kart track. The combination of its unique concept with the popularity of Mario Kart Wii makes it the one that I think the most amount of people would choose when asked to name a Mario Kart track. The only counter I've heard is Rainbow Road, but there are so many Rainbow Roads that it would probably spread a specific one too thin.
To be fair, most other tracks are tracks first and settings later. Coconut Mall feels like it was made as just a mall, but is being used as a race track.
I fell in love with Coconut Mall because there's just so many ROUTES to take. So many that the course almost feels non-linear, like an open-world game of sorts.
I actually want to take the time to quantify just how many options it gives...
First escalators: 3 options (up-escalator, down-escalator, or ride the ramps)
Top floor: 3 options (left side, right side, down-escalator)
Top floor, right side: 3 options (normal route to escalator, shop shortcut and jump from mezzanine, double-mushroom shortcut)
2nd escalator: 3 options (go down the escalator, ride the ramp, or drive off the mezzanine)
3rd set of escalators: 3 options (up-escalator, down-escalator, or ride the ramps)
Courtyard: 3 options (left boost panel, right boost panel, center route with fountain/tree tricks)
Food court: 2 options (upper ramp and lower ramp)
Before parking lot: 2 options (go narrow with turn or go wide to get item box from the mini ramp)
Parking lot: 2 options, sort of (play it safe and stay on one side, swerve to hit all boost panels without hitting cars)
Coconut Mall is literally so charming. They captured the feeling of vacation and fun, with the colors, sounds, and scenery. Literally, I've spent a lot of time exploring Coconut Mall throughout the years. I would like to visit this location in real life!!! It's very bubbly and warm. It would be nice to have some remakes of this map!
These are all really great points and observations but the real reason people love it is just because of the music
I agree but the reason I like it is for the memories of playing it and messing round the area trying to find shortcuts or pretending to be an actual customer.
Coconut mall feels like the perfect level for everybody from beginners to speedrunners.
Speaking of meat in Mushroom Kingdom, there are cows in Moo Moo Meadows that could potentially serve as a source for meat, and if we're counting the Paper Mario series, there would be pigs too.
Good thing it’s coming back in MK8D as DLC this March 😊
I'm not usually a fan of unscripted stuff, most people come off as rambly and low-effort. but I've really been enjoying these, you still communicate your ideas really clearly while getting to be more off-the-cuff. good shit man!
I REALLY enjoy the one takes and oh my gosh this was fun to listen to
Ty, I needed this to chill out tonight
Why do we love Coconut Mall?
*Yes.*
It looks better in Wii's version than mk8 one
The best thing about Mario Kart Wii and Coconut Mall especially is the Miis you've created being seen throughout the track.
Imagine Nintendo creating an actual coconut mall where you can buy Nintendo products like their New York store, but at the next level.
Like if you agree that idea.
I like the small details and I can notice because I am always in last place
I can't believe how great you are at doing things in one take. The fact that this video was done with no editting is seriously impressive. I found a lot of your behind the Zike video very entertaining also and those were also done in one take.
in most Mario games, it's usually set in this bizarre abstract world with giant mushrooms and floating blocks. But coconut mall is set in our world with our things, so it just makes it more fun to watch the Mario characters interact with our things (kinda like the appeal for Luigi's mansion 3) in my opinion
Pretty sure the metal pipe is just supposed to be like a modern art kind of staircase, malls often have sorta modern art types of staircases so i think thats whats going on there
on the wierd silver stairs i've always thought of it as a cheese grater when i was younger. idk what stuff my brain was on back then
1:57 That looks kinda like Tari's jacket!
9:15 I always considered the lower route the main route and the upper route the fancy route for adventurers.
I remember as a kid, just exploring coconut mall on my DS in ghost mode. It was absolutely magical to me. There was so many little details and cool things to just stop and look at. It was marvelous.
Coconut Mall gives off the same personal feeling as Royal Raceway from Mario Kart 64. Both courses makes me want to explore the course rather than racing. Really bummed that you couldn’t explore the castle grounds in future versions of the same course...
Also fun fact: some vegan burgers actually replace the patty with a portobello cap! Got that info from my favorite weeb, Demolition D!
When I was 5 or 6, and my little sister was 3 or 4, we'd roleplay in Coconut Mall just for giggles
I knew about the Miis in the cars but I never noticed the Miis on the posters. Thats cool!
This video has that childlike quality of someone just going on and on about something they really like.
I like it.
I would absolutely love to visit a Coconut Mall inspired level in a 3D Mario game. Racing through a mall is amazing, but imagine walking through and platforming in one!
You make me want to buy a wii more and more with each video you make.
11:50 OK so here's a pointless little thing. I never really went out of my way to read all of the signs in the mall or anything, but just now when you stopped in front of the "Moo Moo Dairy" I actually read it as "Moe Moe Diary", and even mistook the cows on the sides as small portraits of Hatsune Miku smiling cheerfully.
I may or may not have a problem.
One really cool detail I recall is that any usage of Miis in courses like Coconut Mall would never be a Mii currently in use as a racer. Speaking of Miis, if you were using one, courses would get some extra Mii details. One example would be the giant Luigi Statue on Luigi Circuit becoming a statue of a Mii in a Luigi costume. Once again, the Mii racer(s) in use wouldn't appear as background Miis. They really went all in with the details in this game.
Imagine how awesome a massive Coconut Mall battle track would be
Dude, I've owned this game for such a LONG time and I've literally NEVER noticed the Miis on the posters until now
Zoomzike: goes down the escalator in the beginning
Competitive mkwii player: wait thats illegal
dude i have no idea how youre able to do this so well unscripted its a great talent
I’d say this is video was a lot more engaging than the tick tick clock one, you were very in point all the time and it was just a great video, good job! I always look forward to another June Zoom video every night lol
These one-take videos are so impressive, and they're undoubtedly training your commentary very well. This style is very much appreciated, I can't wait to see how your commentary improves in the future.
This video really goes into detail about things I never took into consideration. It’s amazing! ❤️