Ida Presti - The Art of Ida Presti - Studio Recordings, 1938/1956 (2012)
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Tracklist:
- Studio Recordings, 1938
01 Robert De Visée. Menuet 0:00
02 Robert De Visée. Bourée 0:47
03 Robert De Visée. Menuet 1:28
04 Robert De Visée. Gavotte 2:14
05 Johann Sebastian Bach. Courante from Suite no.3 for cello BWV 1009 3:04
06 Niccolò Paganini. Romance in A minor from Grand Sonata M.S. 3 5:56
07 Isaac Albéniz. Rumores de la caleta 9:09
08 Joaquín Malats. Serenata espanola 12:18
09 Daniel Fortea. Andaluza 15:35
10 Federico Moreno Torroba. Allegro from Sonatina in A major 22:08
- TV Recording, 1950 c.
11 Heitor Villa-Lobos. Prelude no.1 in E minor 25:25
- Studio Recordings, 1956
12 Fernando Sor. Andante largo op.5 no.5 29:30
13 Emilio Pujol. Guajira 34:26
14 Alexandre Lagoya. Revêrie 39:05
15 Alexandre Lagoya. Caprice 42:09
16 Johann Sebastian Bach. Andante from Sonata no.2 for solo violin BWV 1003 43:51 - Hudba
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È la prima volta che ascolto ida presti.....sono stupito e affascinato dalla perfetta dimensione musicale e tecnica che esprime con profondo sentimento,io ho ascoltato quasi tutti i più grandi chitarristi/e anche i/le più giovani e lei mi pare che abbia qualcosa in più, sempre, sono felicemente sorpreso, l'ascoltero' sempre da oggi in poi ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
He's the best. She's the best. It's not a competition. Just be grateful you can listen... to all of it!
Le trovo una dolcezza e una leggerezza immense. Sicuramente la grandezza di Segovia ha il suo fondamento ma Ida Presti è capace di dare un aspetto emotivo che in Segovia non riesco a percepire.
One thing to realize...the first 20 minutes here are when she was only 13 years old!!!!!!
Ida had her own "thing" and I have always loved her for that..What a true talent and Interpreter🎸
Greatest guitarist of all time!
Alice Artzt said Ida ran rings around Andres Segovia. Ida was her teacher.
Segovia said she was the best.
This is the sweetest most delightful rendition of Andante Largo I have ever heard !
estas loco
que parte de andante largo no entendiste??
@@eugenioaugustopaparini4805 Eaaaasy, vivir y dejar vivir. Dejar opinar a los demas. Tus gustos son los tuyos nada mas. Tranquilo hombre.
Mi ha colpito da subito il suono speciale che la musica al suo tocco sprigiona .... bellissimo
Departed this world too early. What a great pity and loss to the world of music that more of her performances were not captured for posterity.
Wonderful! Unbelievable that a child could have such a deep understanding of Bach's Courante and play it so close to perfection.
Thank you ever so much for sharing this jewel with us, Pedro!
Absolutely Amazing. And, a very important record of her artistry. She stands for other women who wish to approach the study of the guitar and gives an idea of what awaits and can be accomplished. A master technician bar none. Brava! PS: It baffles me how anyone could give a thumbs down to this collection.
Mon Maître !! unique !! irremplaçable !
Bless you for sharing this. She is my favorite guitarist even though before this I'd heard only a very few solo recordings. I've seen just about all the superstars from Fisk, Yamashita, Russell, to last year's GFA winner, and they are all wonderful. Ida, though, was a great genius of the instrument and had something nobody before or since has. The Bach is transcendent. Again, thanks!
Unsurpassed, the best!
Wow !! Great guitar player !!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Shes got that little something almost no one else got
She has such a great sound.
Köszönet a feltöltőnek! én csak most találkoztam vele, nagy békét ad a hallgatása...
Thank you for sharing this marvelous recording. I only wish I could have watched her perform in person...
The sonatina by Torroba what talent played. Perhaps a bit to fast. But nice. May god take good care of You dear Ida.❤
Έπρεπε να φτάσω στα 56 για να με φωτίσει ο θεός να κάτσω να την ακούσω. Τα φτωχά σε ήχο video με είχαν αποτρέψει ως τώρα. Τώρα πια δεν έχω καμμιά αμφιβολία για το ποιος ώθησε τη κιθάρα στο σημείο που βρίσκεται σήμερα και για το σε ποιον [[χρωστάμε]] , όλοι όσοι αντλούμε χαρά , ακούγοντας και παίζοντας κλασσική κιθάρα.
Gracias por compartir este documento de una grande, muy grande guitarrista.
Talento eccezionale
Ida Presti- What can one say ! In the entire history of the world there are certain individuals who seem to go beyond extreme talent and even beyond what we know as Genius. Mozart and Michelangelo come to mind. To listen to Ida Presti perform we are instantly transported into another Realm, another World. The Music she produced must be referred to as nothing less than Divine, as if reaching out to us from another world- perhaps from Heaven itself. I never cease listening to her recordings going back to her earliest age when she played a short solo piece in the very rare French film: LE PETIT CHOSE when she was only 13 years old.Even then it was clear that this very young child had been somehow touched by God, anointed to become the greatest Guitarist that ever appeared on this Earth or ever will appear on this Earth. Just as it is unimaginable to believe there will ever appear another Mozart, it is unimaginable there will ever appear in our midst another Ida Presti.We must thank God that we possess recordings of her music going back to her earliest childhood years. John Duarte once said that never in her entire life did he ever hear Presti play a false note, whether while practicing or during a performance.Thus, Ida Prest represented a form of Perfection itself which is precisely how one wishes to imagine God to be. Ida Presti will always reign over the world of the Guitar as the Sun at mid- day reigns down upon the Earth, enveloping we mere mortals with its Loving warmth.I believe Douglas Chapman says it so astutely well whose words I present here again to Honor the Immortal Ida Presti. May she Rest in Blessed Peace for All Eternity for what she gave this World. Truly she represents a Gift from Heaven to which she has now returned. ______________________________________________ Douglas Chapman4 months agoI agree with Segovia. He, nor anyone else, had anything to teach Ms Presti. Everything I hear in Andrés Segovia's playing is a wonderful echo of Ms Presti. She has more testicular drive than any other guitarist I've heard. In Music and Guitar, I have other favorites, but Ida Presti combines everything I've heard from John Williams's precision and virtuosity, the Latin flow of Augustín Barrios and Leo Brouwer, and the romanticism of Andrés Segovia. None of the preternaturally brilliant young comers from Japan and Russia come close.
David Pakter What??????
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I don't think "God" has anything to do with any of this - however, you are perfectly entitled to your belief - as I am to mine, which is that she carried the benefits of practice in previous lifetimes to bless her brief advent - 43 years on this planet - and she has now moved on elsewhere, unknown to us. The likes of her will never be seen again on Earth - It is clear that she devoted every minute of the day to perfecting her artistry - even the crappy quality of these recordings is transcended by her exquisite playing and beautiful expression - I will not make comparisons here - because there is no point in doing so - suffice to say that I will never tire of listening to her, both in her solo performances and her duo with Lagoya.
Beautiful words for a great guitarist! It is impossible not to agree with you!
@@BernieHollandMusic God you say? I'll raise you a St. Cecelia. What planet or heaven you on? You gonna call that bluff?
My new happy place❤
She was so fabulous!
Thanks for sharing. She died too young, unfortunately. Also a great composer. Listen to "6 Etudes for guitar".
Der Ton ist göttlich
What a revelation this player is! :O
Thank you!
Again, thank you! 🌻
Listening to her play, I have learned a lot. Mostly, that I should have chosen a different instrument.
Sorry about your life...
What a fantastic player.
They seemed to have a way of recording the classical guitar back then that’s got lost. The reverb, depth and general sound quality of the instrument has been faithfully reproduced, but also enhanced, with a bit of natural sounding background hiss etc. Very atmospheric.
Similarly with interpretation style. Her playing is full of beautifully expressive details that I generally don’t hear much from modern virtuosi.
delightful, thanks for the upload.
Valeu, Pedro!
Wow - accurate but poetic.
Ida Presti was born in 1924. You can work out her age when she recorded the first half of this, in 1938...
wow that Sor, never heard another guitarist come close
Grato!
bravo
Браво
There are only 4 guitarists whose playing I immediately fell in love upon first hearing. They are Segovia, Presti, Anido and Li Jie. I don't play the guitar. Just the violin.
I could suggest to you Augustin Barrios, Abel Fleury, Llobet, Antonio Lara! Enjoy :)
You'll probably love Manuel Lopez Ramos if you hear him.. passed away already.
Es o maior!
Did she play it all in one take? Yeah. I bet she played every piece in one take.
. I'm sure yes, on French radio it did only one reading and played live.
segovia heard this youngster audition some pieces for his classes in lt 30s,,,12 or 13 y;o she was,,he remarked affterwords,,,,,,'zere eess noathinge i can teach zeess gerl,,,,,,,
Her unshakeable continuity and ease is i think comparable with heifetz. I cant give a greater complement than that. Her touch which is quite soft plus her precision and fluidity is i think the greatest ive heard. Makes me wonder that if she had been born male she would now be revered as the greatest guitarist of all time bar none. Many people already know this but in a male dominated 20th century the knowledge of her supremacy would be almost universal.
@Tarik Bey it's just my opinion but she had all of the lyricism and musicality of segovia combined with the precision of de Lucia but as you might agree it's very hard to compare her with de Lucia as he was a very different artist. Presti can be compared more easily to Williams, segovia, yepes and even Romero but for me as a package with so many various qualities, presti I think out shines them all.
@Tarik Bey Certainly she was greater than Paco at classical repertoire. Paco was of course magnificent at flamenco and also brilliant at classical. Nevertheless I feel that no guitarist was on the level of Ida. Her lyrical expressiveness, precision, musical sensitivity, and tone production was perfection to my ears.
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В музыкальный литературе часто упоминания двух гитаристка Прести и Мария Луиза Анидо они вошли в историю как самые лучшие исполнители среди женщин и учились у великих учителей Прести у Андрес Сеговия, Мария Луиза Анидо у Мигель Льобет. Россия г.Саратов на Волге Александр.
A magnificient guitarist, no question at all, but I wouldn't place her over Segovia. They are different, just as Bream and Williams. They all are great interpreters of the beloved instrument. I enjoy profoundly listening to everyone of them. They all "feel" the guitar. They all produce magic. I enjoy also David Russell, Alvaro Pierri, Pepe Romero and Narciso Yepes. They are fantastic guitarists that have placed the guitar as an outstanding instrument, just as the piano, violin or chello. This was Segovia's dream come true.
Ricardo, if you are a musician, you'll readily hear that Ida Presti was/is a far greater, more meticulous and technically accomplished musician than our beloved Andrés Segovia. Where Segovia took liberties to achieve rubato, Presti took no liberties, ever! And, significantly, she successfully created the impression of rubato by making the key emotional moments in scores stand out--by backgrounding the other voices so that the dramatic moment appeared to last longer. Ida Presti's "long line" never faltered. I'm not belittling Mr. Segovia at all! Just saying that no one, even the dozen or so other greats who surely are, in the moment of listening, "the best", approach Ida Presti, who was/is notably cleaner, more dramatic, unlimited by a notion of speed, who wields a full palette of tonal variation that she uses judiciously and dramatically, and who retains the testicular drive of the strongest man while exploring her own unmistakably feminine intuition when she performs. Even other greats--Berta Rojas, Balbí, Moretti, Barruecos . . . et al--are not as good as Ida Prestí in all three: taste, musical education, and technique to burn. (I've always been loathe to use the word, "BEST" in any human endeavor. However, every 50 or 100 years, Miguelangelo, J.S.Bach, Rembrandt, Ida Prestí, Wm. Shakespeare, Ravi Shankar, Jacqueline DuPré, Ernest Hemingway, and their like, come along. )
Yes and in addition Ida's formation occurred in a different time - unencumbered by the energy of ambition ("here, let me show you that I am good"). Her focus was on musical and spiritual communication - like Casals, Coltrane ect. There is a refined simplicity in her playing which seems to emerge from the incredible clarity of her musical understanding - but also perhaps from the artistic milieu and sensibility of her times. @@TalentedDilittante
@@TalentedDilittante Andres Segovia rightfully deserves significant recognition in classical guitar history. However, I did not always like his liberal interpretations in tempo and Bach. I couldn't tell if it was his inability to land the chord in tempo or an interpretive pause. At any rate, I did find it somewhat annoying. Ida Presti falls in the category of guitarists that excel in their musicianship and who interpret music without the constraints of technical skills. I wish that I had had the opportunity to have seen her in person.
@@reynaldo121 Yeah, I think it was that he was of an older generation that was still closely tied to the Romantic tradition--think Rubinstein, Heifetz--lots of rubato and "flexible" meter. (I happen to agree; I like Presti's approach better, but that's just my opinion.)
I agree with Ricardo Lemus below. But Andrés Segovia, nor anyone else, had anything to teach Ms Presti. Everything I hear in Andrés Segovia's playing is a wonderful echo of Ms Presti. She has more testicular drive than any other guitarist I've heard. In Music and Guitar, I have other favorites, but Ida Presti combines everything I've heard from John Williams's precision and virtuosity, the Latin flow of Augustín Barrios and Leo Brouwer, and the romanticism of Andrés Segovia. If you are a musician, you'll readily hear that Ida Presti was/is a far greater, more meticulous and technically accomplished musician than our beloved Andrés Segovia. Where Segovia took liberties to achieve rubato, Presti--faithful to the "compás," the beat--took no liberties, ever! And, significantly, she successfully created the impression of rubato by making the key emotional moments in scores stand out--by backgrounding the other voices so that the dramatic moment appeared to last longer. Ida Presti's "long line" never faltered. I'm not belittling Mr. Segovia at all! Just saying that no one, even the dozen or so other greats who surely are, in the moment of listening, "the best", approach Ida Presti, who was/is notably cleaner, more dramatic, unlimited by a notion of speed, who wields a full palette of tonal variation that she uses judiciously and dramatically, and who retains the testicular drive of the strongest man while exploring her own unmistakably feminine intuition when she performs. Even other greats--Berta Rojas, Balbí, Moretti, Barruecos, Nicola Hall . . . et al--are not as good as Ida Prestí in all three: taste, musical education, and technique to burn. (I've always been loathe to use the word, "BEST" in any human endeavor. However, every 50 or 100 years, Miguelangelo, J.S.Bach, Rembrandt, Ida Prestí, Wm. Shakespeare, Ravi Shankar, Jacqueline DuPré, Ernest Hemingway, and their like, come along. )
Douglas Chapman Well said ! I absolutely agree.
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Absolutely true. I studied with Ida Presti and knew her quite well. She was totally amazing - played as easily and expressively as other people might talk. She could do ANYTHING - at ANY speed. I even have a tape recording, made by a friend before a duo concert years ago, in which you hear her flying around the fingerboard while carrying on a conversation with Lagoya about what encore to play. She could sight read anything at concert speed and play it better than anyone else. I saw her do this with the Rodrigo Fantasia Para un Gentil hombre. The music had just been published and she had not seen or heard the piece. I brought her the score and she was excited to see something new and started playing it at high speed, absolutely accurately and of course totally musically, whipping the pages over as she flew through the whole piece. Amazing !!! You could have put her in front of a full orchestra and done a perfect recording of it right that minute. She did the French premiere of the Aranjuez, at totally last minute notice, by learning the music on the train going to the performance.
@@Guitartzt Wow! (Sight read at performance speed? Ms Presti's musicianship in all departments reminds me so much of the cellist Jacqueline DuPré or the pianists Sviatoslav Richter and Glenn Gould.) Thank you, Ms. Artzt. It's these details and your authoritative voice that re-establish the truth about Ms Presti--one of the most influential performers in all history.
I really feel she and Julian Bream were the greatest guitarists of the 20th Century
Oh, Yes.. thank you mentioning Julian Bream.... my Idol I first heard in 1962 at university. It was the incredible, "Elizabethan Lute Music" LP ... his guitar work is legendary. A very cool guy as well ... and zipping around in his MG sports car to boot. Will never forget the sheer joy of hearing him perform on either instrument.
One of a very few people who
knew how and when to use the
colours of the Guitar unlike those
of today who all have just one tone and all sound the same!...
The Guitar has so many beautiful
qualities of sound and effects....
Stop trying to make it sound like
a Piano and stop playing like
Robots!
Tout serait tellement beau s'il n y avait ce vibrato exagéré, très exagéré, en permanence: une esthétique de l'époque sans doute, mais difficile à apprécier aujourd hui.
Just listen to sonata of joan manen played by segovia that should answer all arguments
Might as well move to Appalachia and play the spoons.
LOL! Every once in a while, I watch or listen to someone on youtube, and think I might quit playing guitar altogether. That thought crossed my mind the first time I saw Ida Presti.
Has anyone seen my guitar? Oh yeah, I forgot. After listening to this, I turned it into a door stop.
She was just amazing! And I hear that Segovia shunned her and made it a point to not recognize her great talent Was it jealousy?
Segovia shunned everyone whom he perceived as an usurper of his undeserved world predominant role. At no moment in time has Segovia been the best guitarist of that time. As far as Ida Presti, he accepted her again after she started playing only duos with Lagoya, because that was not on Segovia's turf.
It is not true , Segovia loved here really , it was one his favorites, don't listen to what people say about Segovia in general, he said that she should be called Presti but Prestissimo.
Andrés Segovia, hearing Ms Presti when she was 14, said "I have nothing to teach her. She should accept advice from no other guitarist." --Higher praise, impossible!
Julian Bream, Rey de la Torre, Agustin Barrios Mangore, Narciso Yepes, Alexandre Lagoya and of course Ida Presti , John Williams , Maria Luisa Anido are all in my list which i put way above Segovia. There are even more......
@@TalentedDilittante thank you! What's up w some knocking Segovia?
Effortless artistry.
Ida presti was a great player as the rest of the greats.but segovia simply stated played everything better than everyone else.
Had Ida Presti continued as a soloist and lived a long life she would have eclipsed Segovia fame. She was technically a better guitarist, held true to the tempo of the music and possessed great musicianship even at an early age. Segovia held the guitar duo of Ida Presti and Alexandre Lagoya in high regard and probably relieved that she was no longer performing as a soloist.
@@reynaldo121 For those who understood the instrument, she had already eclipsed Segovia when she was fourteen. Indeed, she escaped Segovia's snubs only because she started playing with Lagoya. We don't know how Tárrega, Pujol, Llobet or Barrios sounded, but she clearly surpassed all the performers who followed her in the second half of the twentieth century.
@@curaticac5391 With all due respect: We do indeed know how Llobet and Barrios sounded. There are recordings.
She became Ida Presti because she was locked down by her father and forced to play the whole day. The same thing with Andre Agassi ex number one who was forced to practice tennis which he hated.