Eric Weinstein: Geometric Unity and the Call for New Ideas & Institutions | Lex Fridman Podcast #88
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- Eric Weinstein is a mathematician with a bold and piercing intelligence, unafraid to explore the biggest questions in the universe and shine a light on the darkest corners of our society. He is the host of The Portal podcast, a part of which, he recently released his 2013 Oxford lecture on his theory of Geometric Unity that is at the center of his lifelong efforts in arriving at a theory of everything that unifies the fundamental laws of physics.
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
2:08 - World War II and the Coronavirus Pandemic
14:03 - New leaders
31:18 - Hope for our time
34:23 - WHO
44:19 - Geometric unity
1:38:55 - We need to get off this planet
1:40:47 - Elon Musk
1:46:58 - Take Back MIT
2:15:31 - The time at Harvard
2:37:01 - The Portal
2:42:58 - Legacy
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I really enjoyed this conversation with Eric. Here's the outline:
0:00 - Introduction
2:08 - World War II and the Coronavirus Pandemic
14:03 - New leaders
31:18 - Hope for our time
34:23 - WHO
44:19 - Geometric unity
1:38:55 - We need to get off this planet
1:40:47 - Elon Musk
1:46:58 - Take Back MIT
2:15:31 - The time at Harvard
2:37:01 - The Portal
2:42:58 - Legacy
The way you have indexed this is awesome! Thanks
Never seen the timestamps show up on the video before, a new feature, something you did with the API or you are just the first one who cared enough to enable it? Great conversation so far btw =)
Lex - big big fan, I teach bjj [2nd degree black belt under Giva santana] and find your content extremely interesting and useful. Thank you for doing this work. It would be fantastic to have you, Weinstein, and Danaher in conversation :]
You're the best Lex, love this format
cheers on all the great time stamps , really great work actually , perfect
This was one of the saddest programs I ever started to watch. To think that I would be given this treasure right now is terribly sad for me. I have Alzheimers' and I do not have the ability to live this or to learn from it. There are no complaints in my observations. My life has been a dream and I am just now realizing that I do not have the capacity to "live" this message. I am delighted to know that all the young minds have this to absord. Thanks for sharing, I wish I were 50 years younger on this day. Bless you.
Jim Pike
And bless you!
Just do what you can man. Even if it’s a little.
Have you considered a Plantbased diet. Remeber reading a story or hearing a rumor on how it an aid against Alzheimers
I may be proned to it myself so that fear is always there as much as the fear of death. But where one goes we go all. Good luck everyone
Cannabis helps Alzheimer's, studies show
I'm really hesitant of even mentioning this, but... you might want to take a look at the Alcor Foundation.
Bless you!
Lex: lemme ask a silly question
Eric: well ask it with a straight face
Lex: impossible
Lex: _proceeds to talk with the face of a Russian czar posing for an oil painting_
I’ve been watching this podcast for a while, The Portal, too. A slight lift of one side of Lex’s mouth is the equivalent of me laughing loudly.
Eric is quick to laugh, but it’s often ironic and ultimately sad. He scares me a bit. I don’t think we can know what he’s capable of.
@@SusanBaileyAmazingEstate Eric hunts and eats corrupt leaders at night.
@@SusanBaileyAmazingEstate Eric is clearly not neuro-typical, and that's why he sees so many things, in high resolution, that others don't even know are there.
Floyd Jaggy 😂🍺
😂my favorite part too
For most of us, including Lex, this was like taking an advanced course without acing the several prerequisites.
Agree
So....just like College. LOL
@@hittinitsidways true and yet hearing his comments on Aaron Schwartz, tragic as that story is, I was glad to hear someone call it with so much passion and conviction. After hearing/seeing that, I can only suspect for people misinterpret Eric's intentions are perhaps resenting not picking up what he was putting down. Educated doesn't mean intelligent and confidence doesn't mean competence.
@@candidobertetti27 that was a long time ago, I couldn’t care less about a unified theory these days lol.
@@hittinitsidways I do care instead, but I don't like that cranks like Weinstein educate the masses to distrust the whole scientific community, just for personal revenge as he didn't get the academic career he wanted.
Its a talent how Eric spills out the beans so subtly and casually.
And to hold back the frustration of people not believing your experiences, that’s a man who’s figured out life there.
I often miss hearing Lex’s prespectives on the subjects. I love when the other person wants to hear something from Lex. Usually people just talk talk and talk and wait for the next question... Such a great podcast with these two minds interacting
@@user-mm8vw1ow1x That's true. Lex could also lead the plots better and make it less of an interview.
I thought the same thing. Lex said a lot this podcast. I loved hearing him
It's always great when a podcast guest is a podcast host too, it results in a more symmetrical conversation, than usual podcasts/interviews/etc.
@@user-mm8vw1ow1x As a podcast host, isn't it his job to encourage his guest to speak and to listen without interruption? It just seems like good conversational manner and if the guest (who is also a podcast host) asks for Lex's views it's nice because it creates a duet.
Just like any host, Lex won't get his hands dirty so everyone lets their door open to the next interview. What I don't like is that he puts cranks and actual scientists on the same level of credibility. People like Weinstein are parasites whose only achievement was to become popular by defaming physicists who have actual work to do. People like Weinstein try to get the most out of the failures of actual scientists who invest their lives in what they think could be good for the mankind, just like vultures. But failure is key to success in science.
"It's like watching your parents riding the tricycle they were supposed to pass on to you. " This is gold.
Where is that?
William Britton 16:30
Over an hour in I have never felt less intelligent and yet I can't stop watching. The voices soothe
I listen
Nothing is absorbed
You are more aware than you realize.
You are better than you know.
Nice
Maybe??…because you know you forgot it all and that’s why it seems familiar in an unknowing way?
You are way smarter than Mr. Weinstein. He's a crank, an educated one, he tried to fool everyone with his theories, but now he's been finally put to shame.
Dont stop Eric. You are fighting for all of us.
Eric is trying to wind up the suppressed rebel in Lex.. And i aint even mad
Weird...I'm watching Lex trying to put Eric's batteries back in only to have Eric keep shaking them out again.
@@tripp8833 My God, you're right.
People think Eric is a prick sometimes, but I think you nailed it. He chooses to play the 'villian' to rouse people into action.
He’s so right, tho...
@@KravMagoo excellent analogy. This is the first Weinstein interview that I've seen where he went deep into anything.
You ARE becoming a leader on a LARGE scale Lex. Keep going
Lex got mindblown at least 25 times... it's probably that
Just watch Lex's interview with Jeff Besoz. It is a lamentable exercise in limitless PR for a monster.
2:43:56 - I literally started crying when he said "trying". Thank you so much, Eric. I've been going through such a hard time, and when you said that, having accomplished so much, made me feel like I can also have something to be proud of. And that's something I really needed right now. Thank you, and shalom!
The more I've listened and gleaned from Eric's stories, experience and insight, the more I've grown to admire him. He is truly brilliant 💕
Yeah this man’s humility is off the charts, but there’s so much wisdom in the nuance of his word selection, explanations, and expressions of concern. It’s incredible to hear him describe his perceptions of life at such a high level using simple analogies for every explanation. Lex is like a dope teacher’s pet, a great student unafraid to challenge the ideas of his sensei without a wink of disrespect, jealousy, or dishonesty. I feel like this man sees things that most of us will never understand, Eric is a true fuckin gangster
Yeah he's a really brilliant mind... Since hearing him speak on a random video and then listening to him and bret. I've almost listened to everything out there I can he puts out
@@JRSKATELAB 💯
Nice!
Oh man the minute by minute breakdown is a game changer. Love that
He's had that for quite some time
Eric: “I can explain it very simply”
Proceeds to talk some kind of alien language
lol, Erics 'curse' of genius. it all depends on what kind of neural pathways you've constructed inside your head...
@@OldHickory7 Wow, you are on a complete new level of stupid! 😂 I smile, yet I feel sorry for you who got a terrible ticket in the biological lottery when it comes to cognitive ability.
Hes lowkey cocky. But hes right in many ways.
@@Scorch428 He's the man!
I also feel that Eric intentionally makes things hard to understand. He has made some topics I understand reasonably well seem completely unattainable.
This episode is cutting-edge, all-encompassing commentary of where we are as a species. It's my second time sitting through the entire thing, and I'm still blown away.
We can hardly tell our children and grandchildren that we love them while handing them a world on fire. True selflessness, is planting trees to provide shade for people that you'll never meet. Its never been all about me singularly and this idea can not be used selectively. 💜
What a beautiful name. Mom was very creative.
@Mike Knight True.
I appreciate the small edits of the overlayed pictures. it's so good not having to pause and search for it...
Who needs college when u have this
Damn Right.
College is there for money. Knowledge has always been behind expensive doors.
@@redalertwagers If you haven't been shown the principles of discipline before you get to college.
Your family, friends and authority figures have all let you down.
Yes, I’m sure you are now a qualified theoretical physicist after watching this.
Life is pay-to-win
i absolutely love experiencing the topics and ideas flying overhead and occasionally grabbing a couple ... these guyses!
"I'd like my legacy to be accurate." I never comment on youtube, but that was fantastic.
I loved that too ! How clever was that ? ❤️🇨🇦
I just love watching human beings who are much smarter than I am. I gain insightful gems from reality all of the time whenever they speak. Thank you for having Eric on again Lex!! Keep doing what you're doing!
This was fantastic. I've never seen "let's keep it real" Eric. I'm glad Lex held it together and focused on explaining where he was trying to steer the conversation.
I absolutely love Eric’s perspective and ideas
Lex, hope this message gets to you. I've never understood this man to this degree. Thank you for coaxing a simple explanation out of him.
I too never understood why he is elevated to some level above the rest of us. He's bright and I agree with him very much. Not sure why he gets so much cred. But this was a great interview that exposed a higher level of Weinstein (still not genius level though)
@@stevefink6000 If you studied mathematics, you would never discount this man's intellect. Hes the cream of the crop.
Right on the money re: Aaron Swartz - they did him dirty.
Eric speaking so passionately about this is so fkin amazing.
The problem is people don't become rebellious enough if they want to survive in the system. Becoming a leech like the others and getting rid of those that want to take your lifesource away from you. The system gains power from ownership that enables one to survive without merging with the system. This is where it begins and not from nerds throwing pens and erasers at professors.
Timestamp please?
Tim Gosline 1:49:00
statues and a shark moat, aaaanyway the wind blows...
There were a couple of moments where I felt Eric was going somewhere. But then he spins out in a cloud of defensive rhetoric, and resentment, then loses me.
Bingo. Because he is obfuscating. He is engaging in limited letdown . Trying to re-harness the power of a grand deception. String theory IS a folly. But Eric isn't trying to undo it. He is trying to re- cast its central intent , and to displace the learned and brave voices wanting to collapse the deception . Why? , you might ask . Because it is necessary to a grand deception. Listen again to the interview from 1h.34min. Great questions raised and avoided. ..And then the launch into the" get off this planet death cult con.
he is way too political, its like deepak chopra, but with politics instead of woowoo.
@@ventura433 xDDDD this is perfect!
Yes, that seems correct to me. He's an interesting guy but seems to have a chip on his shoulder that isn't doing his ideas any favors.
@@crab-dogjones4659 I think the "chip" is his view of how the scientific world has been politicized and corrupted.
This gets really good when Eric starts talking about Elon Musk, Aaron Schwartz and MIT. This is why I respect him like a family member despite never meeting him. I feel the same restlessness and dissidence. I know this is the way. Become ungovernable. Do it through brilliance.
Second this. The conversation goes to whole another level. Eric's indignation comes through so clearly and precisely!
When they fucked Eric Schwartz over, that's when I realized we were doomed.
I hope you are making fun of Eric Weinstein as opposed to being serious. You do know he is a charlatan, right?
@@StopFear how so?
I find it arresting that Lex, someone who works in such an abstract but detached discipline, has such reverence for heart-driven preoccupations. 'Sending love,' concerned about the 'quiet suffering' of people - he's definitely a thoughtful guy, perhaps just hasn't publicly expressed this kind of sentimentally until he became more comfortable with himself.
I wonder what it says about me that I find that kind of talk sappy.
@@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy you havent a soul.
@@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy Different life experiences, perhaps. I get the same feeling but we should respect the sentiment if it's sincere rather than signalling (which I think it is in this case).
I feel Lex is actually a highly empathetic person and he does music and podcasts as an escape from his professional life. He can code, but he desires to let his heart communicate. I respect him for doing what he loves while still doing what he is good at.
@Pat McCann Hes Russian?
Eric is starting a network of portal fight clubs and Lex just got assigned MIT. His name was Aaron Swartz...
I could seriously listen to both of you talk all day, I loved this so much.
As a fellow immigrant from Yugoslavia who values education and intellectual discussions highly, thank you for this great podcast! Eric is an awesome guest, and I always enjoy listening to your all’s discussions. All the best.
Y'all is a good contraction I enjoy using. Not to mention you have great English already.
:D
The Portal episode with Bret Weinstein *is* hard to listen to at times, but that's a good thing, it's unlike any other interview I've ever heard. Eric *is* a little overbearing but as Lex pointed out, "I just hear brothers." And he had a very specific goal and needed Bret to go along for the ride to get the story out. And Bret handles it really well, he knows what's going on and he allows his brother to drag the facts out of him in the way he deems best. I think it's one of the best interviews I've heard in my life, and I recommend it to anyone who will listen to me long enough for me to tell them about it.
*Eric
@@enhancdreality I'm saying the episode of Eric Weinstein's The Portal with guest Bret Weinstein.
www.outofshadows.org/
@@yamishogun6501 I'm guessing you aren't a man who has a brother
@Daniel Moore What? That is complete BS, maybe you fell asleep when Brett explained the telomere mechanism and how test mice were mutated with extraordinary long telomere, not from nature but from the conditions they were bread.
Its fascinating how two people can watch the same episode and yet see, hear and come to completely different conclusions to the point that I think you must either be completely delusional or you didn't see the episode and are for some reason just lying about it. I guess one last unlikely possibility would be if you had a deep knowledge of hidden information that you are not sharing coming from you knowing Brett personally.
1:59:55 "People are cowards at the moment, because if people aren't cowards they are unemployed" , this is not only in the academe institution. This is spread across corporate America as well. This would be a true statement for I would dare say 70% of Americans.
As much as I like the quote I think it's decently false. The only way we're gonna change the beast to avoid catastrophe and achieve a better, faster result is through strong-arming the system from within. Fast revolutions always just leave a vacuum that's filled by opportunists and leaves a mess that often just devolves right back into some assemblance of the same system.
So many companies stifle their most brilliant and forward-thinking employees because of ego. I've seen it happen to co-workers and am now realizing how it may be happening to me as well.
@@LC-yo3bj I'm not completely understanding your angle on this. What you reply with doesn't make the statement false. Also, strong arming the system from within may not be the best. It has not worked. It being very difficult, if not impossible, when the threat of termination/expulsion/discredit/dis-certify/shame is always stagnantly lingering in the air. In the work place is no shortage of willing, seemingly mindless, more than eager, subordinates to those needing to be strong armed, that have partially created, enable and sometime promote these continuing practices on a wide scale. Just to get an occasional pat on the back or extra 10 minutes on lunch. No particular place of work seems to be immune to this although there are some I have read about. Every strong armed waging common sense person I have ever seen go against the "status quo" in places I have seen, get a prompt escort from the workplace. I have been wrong many times as well.
@@EricAmericanTuner Yes, I think some of that problem lies within people like you are getting at. Many managers whom should facilitate are many times, adding road blocks sabotaging projects, just to be able to say. Well, Johnny didn't do so good. Johnny is just as good or better than Mr/Mr Manager at his job. But Mr Manager wants to keep Johnny under his thumb so he doesn't look band and can take credit for all of johnny's work. All the while piling on Johnny with as much of MR Managers work as he can get him to do while mr manager sits around and thinks of another way to screw over someone else. Can't have someone under me knowing more than me.
I’ve listened to this conversation several times and I enjoy it more each time. Thank you both for what you provide to society and your respective fields
Eric “ I want the rot cleared out ! I don’t need to go after individuals “ 🧠🎯🧠🎯🧠🎯 this is what I’m talking about 💚
Why do I love listening to this stuff when I don't have the faintest clue of what's going on
You're listening on many levels, and the subconscious is feasting on this.
So glad I'm not the only one. Something will detach from better brains than mine, and bring me tiny shards of enlightenment... Hopefully
nobbeish A good question. Why?
@@SoumilSahu You know that's not true.
Interestingly enough, I've discovered that I understand simpler things with ease by listening to things I don't. It's a weird transition.
Am I alone in feeling proud to be part of these conversations? The AI Podcast.. The Portal.. Theyre just different than anything else.. Thank you guys, I for one appreciate your effort.
This is amazing! Love this interview. Just found you yesterday Lex and im already obsessed. I need to watch every interview!
As a boomer I find this very painful. Thank you both.
A phenomenally honest fun conversation, I love Eric’s mind and his inherent disagreeableness makes him endearing and endlessly fascinating.
And Lex you challenging him on so many levels and he enjoys it clearly and push him to explain certain points he can skip over in a presumption of shared knowledge I thank you for that. And I’m glad you pushed childhood abuse story to because I remember being floored listening to him on the intro of the Bret portal episode, I’ve always had these things with Eric I knew he was a musicians a few years before I heard him say it or actually the video of him playing blues harp in a club , I am a musician as a career and had the feeling he was similar and then this happened again I’d always had a suspicion as it has happened to me as a child funny how you get a feeling about someone even tho I’d never met him I had listened to many hours of him conversing
Excellent episode mate
The way the timestamps are built into the playback is soooo nice for mobile. Thanks for putting that effort in.
Beautiful minds and hearts, what a treat and honor. Thank you.
Hollow hare aou?
How..
How you my myrfiend, good.
how did I miss this for 5 months? this is brilliant, blasting, awesome. thank you!
“Why did we only get one Elon?!”
-Eric Weinstein
I'm not entirely sure I trust Elon
There is a simple answer in my opinion .... with the level of (Fuck you) money ... people just stop caring about a lot of this stuff ... even if they used to care about in the past ..... and people who don't have (Fuck you) level of money can't understand that .
You - the USA - didn't have one.
So he came from South Africa to inspire y'all.
I love Elon Musk!
Elon has a good and honest soul!
2:43:16 Lex: "What do you hope your legacy is?" Eric: "Oh, i hope my legacy is accurate"
Best answer ever! ;D
So many ways to read that answer, all valid.
Interesting indeed but probably doesn't matter that much
www.outofshadows.org/
@@l.jamesbarlow3137 Mr. Barlow here wants to casually remind you that the media is run by satanist pedophilic canibalistic nazi CIA executives with fetish on mind control
@@l.jamesbarlow3137 I've gone down the rabbit hole so you don't have to...
Thanks Lex, really enjoy the format of your shows :) this one was great
A brilliant interview! Well done! Looking forward to round #3.
Lex is a great interviewer. His slow pace of talking annoyed me before, but now it seems what keeps the conversation flow smooth. It also gives guests time to prepare for a better possible answer.
At first he seems to be extremely low energy but he asks all the questions that the average joe would ask.
I was waiting for this, ever since he talked about this in JRE!
Yes. Lex is a little tease. I will listen tomorrow, as it's a little late to have my mind blown by Eric.
Same here!
1:01:01 GU for idiots, please make it happen!!
my favorite duo! Love the way you guys interact and challenge one another - Awesome content - thanks for your courage, capability and humility
So grateful to have access to listen to these conversations
I’m fairly certain I willed this into existence.
gabe0000 lol
If this was your work, then for your next project let’s get you working on getting George Hotz on The Portal?!
Thank you
Thank you.
Lol
I reject the hypothesis that all the young great minds are inside of MIT, Harvard, and Stanford.
The attendees of said intatution had only the means and the plan.
the most are not
most of the so called leaders we resent originate from these institutions. individuals from these places of higher education are not our guides to a better future. that’s been proven.
a lot of parents are to blame in my eyes. smart kids get bored with school and they might not have parents that push them to do anything other than graduate because they didnt or barely did
Your intuition is correct. However, the first rule of extrainstitutional genius club, is you do not talk about extrainstitutional genius club. (On Wednesdays we wear pink 🤫).
What was the purpose of the cut at 1:40:47? Also I appreciate the humility that Lex showed in this interview with respect to Eric's theory. Lex is an incredibly smart guy, and the fact that he's not fully understanding the mechanisms of Eric's theory makes me feel a bit better about my lack of understanding. He's smart enough to ask the real questions that we the viewers are wondering but couldn't put into words, but humble enough to reveal his lack of knowledge and relate to the 99% of us watching.
Edit: I'd like to make clear that I respect the two of them very much, and that it's clear that they have mastery over different domains of knowledge.
I heard this conversation for the second time, brilliant!!! Thank you
I will watch 100% of anything Eric Weinstein is in...I will watch it 3X. Thanks Lex, long time listener of your content and I LOVED your song on the Rogan podcast. Epic. Keep being a bright light when the dark side makes all the money.
We only need 55 million intelligent, concerned people who are willing to do a little work for the goal. One in 6, soon to be 1 in 7 Americans is all we need to overtake the current wool over no ones eyes systems.
@@BossInVegas lol you used the most generic, copy-paste insult possible.
Boss in Vegas You having fun there dude?
Who else Is more confused than ever on Eric’s geometric unity theory
I don't understand it well enough to be confused.
Because there is no theory yet. It's all smoke and mirrors misdirection in the form of convoluted analogies from Eric.
Eric is hesitant because he knows he will be ridiculed. He is critical of everyone but too scared to stand on his own. He is not clear in developing his idea. He is all over the place.
Mathematically, it sounds super elegant and interesting (defining a metric on the space of all metrics is mindblowing) but I have no clue about what physics it could entail.
@@tommcnally3231 That's because electrical engineers aren't taught, since there is no need, QFT, GR, or ST.
I love listening to things I'll never begin to understand. Maybe I need pictures to accompany this conversation on geometric unity.
I'm a grandmother of four and I enjoy everything this man has to say... He has great ideas and good messages to the world.... Really do like this man's thinking ...
I love this interview, I love the honesty. I feel like Eric and Lex are about to get barred from MIT tho 😭
These conversations, although sometimes hard to follow, are so important. I wish everyone could see and then discuss videos like this. Thanks to the both of you.
Eric: “How can I help you most?”
Lex: “Repeat everything over and over and explain it like I don’t have a PhD in Mathematics”
When does he say that? Do you have the timemark?
@@bazingacurta2567 guy? /facepalm
lex: do you think you have to have some patience for nonsense when many people work together in a system?
eric: how long has string theory gone on for?
gd... i love them so mf'n much 😻😻
Eric is 1,000,000% correct in suggesting that our "leaders" should resign.
Lex is a mind reader--he's addressed my hidden concerns regarding, questions for, confusions about, and worries over Eric Weinstein that I've had for the past month or so. As an interviewer (and human being), Lex comes across as entirely trustworthy and relevant.That's my shitty 2 cents.
JRE was a better one
@@onseayu Rogan makes up for it with his extensive knowledge of psychedelics, especially DMT.
Your two cents aren't shitty IMO and I agree, Lex is great. Seems like truly a nice guy who knows his physics and cutting edge AI technologies, and he's humble as well, a killer combo... Eric is smart af, as is his brother, however, they can both be somewhat abrasive.at times...maybe that just goes with the territory of the supersmart. I like the Weinsteins tho, I think they speak the truth.
@@onseayu you're right, it was Eric more so on the abrasiveness, not in a bad way, however he does get a bit of a tone sometimes. I'm a big fan of Sam Harris as well, and Hitch? goes without saying (RIP).
When I read "shitty 2 cents" I can't tell if that's humility or self-deprecation.
It literally sounds like Lex is searching for the courage to act. He knows what he has to do but questions whether there is any other option. Great interview.
What does he has to do?
30:22 These men seem to be ignoring the fact that they, themselves, are in the midst of forming new institutions. This IS the kernel of what will come.
Potential of unrealized power
Good point. Knowledge is power but so is our time and we are giving much of it to channels like this these days. But how long before it gets shut down. Steven Crowder was just demonitized so probably won’t be long.
Lex has something. Asking a simple question while fully prepared to go DEEP.
This is one of the greatest casts I have listened to. Wow, Fridman brought these amazing ideas and emotions out of Weinstein that Rogan didn't. I love it.
That was AMAZING!!! Such a fun ride. Both of you... Thank you!
I love how they somehow have amazing chemistry.
Extreme humouring?
Lex doesn't want to call him out....but he easily could.
I am the dummy ,Lex, you need to finish your book for.
Somewhat*
It's not chemistry, it's PHYSICS! 😜
Lex! At 26:20 you say “ I feel I should become a leader on a small scale.” Eric responds “you can’t.” This is totally incorrect. As intelligent as Eric is, he is does make mistakes. This is one mistake. Lex, you absolutely can and should step up. You even have the support of us to further boost your success and lend support
Leading comes from taking initiative. Have you not seen him do this?
Eric changed his tone along the line with this ... when the sense that Lex is truly trying to be a leader .
Don’t worry Neo. You are not “the One”
@@petyrbaelish1216 Then who do you think is in the lead doing the podcast and all his other enterprising?
I barely graduated high school and I'm sitting here listening to these two Titans as if I'm on the same level. Crazy.
Christian Haft yup 💆🏻♂️
just perception man, the school system is horseshit
@Christian Haft Perhaps you shouldn't measure a mountain with a ruler. And just enjoy the veiw. If you made it here, you belong here.
The joy of the 21st century!!
It's just like learning a new language, Chris. You pick it up just by hearing it. Check out the link to Eric's tube page. He is a very challenging thinker.
Best comment I ever read after a Eric Weinstein podcast was when he was explaining Gauge Theory on Rogan:
"I went to this podcast not understanding Gauge Theory and came out not understanding Sea Level."
This should be played before every University's DAY 1 lecture - for ever until it's fixed
"Lex, should we have a drink?" - Eric
ugh I love Eric but he seems desperate to show how cool he is, like he's this smooth cool drinker. Ironic that Eric calls out Lex on presentation when Eric's style of communication can itself be very irritating (nothing wrong with that in the exploration of ideas but still)
They should have DMT .
Smelson I don’t think we watched the same podcast?
Taj Macall oh come on, man. He’s a socially awkward intellectual. Who the fuck cares if sometimes he’s cringey. It’s endearing just as much as it is anything else. He’s a genuine guy, and you can tell the people he’s talking to see that, and are delighted by him. I don’t get the point of this comment, honestly.
I think you guys are crossing wires. He was talking about Eric, not Lex the interviewer.
Something about Eric seems always contradictory or controversial. Every time Lex tries to reiterate on what Eric is saying, Eric says no and has some "poetic" way to explain the opposite. At some point it seems like this leaves Eric with no real point or at maximum just another point blaming every system in discussion for all problems and leaving him with no responsibility. Quite an interesting dance.
Thanks, I was looking for someone who had written my comment for me :)
Mr Weinstein would do great as a politician!
Exactly! Quite a contrast with the Stephen Wolfram interview ...
Thank you. I have been trying to pin his position down and have been going crazy. I am honestly angry at Eric Weinstein for being deliberately confusing.
@Phillip Schaeffer I've noticed this is the pattern with a specific category of guests both here and on the Joe Rogan podcasts. There seems to be a certain disposition "smart people" can have that keeps them reassuring themselves that no one explains things as well as they can. I remember feeling this way about Neil DeGrasse Tyson and a couple of the Machine Learning OGs that have come through the podcast.
In some ways they seem to take advantage of Lex's timid and intentionally innocent phrasing and questioning so they can follow the steps you described.
I concur, and I don’t like that kind of people, they say some clever things, they tell some truths, but ultimately they just waste your time
Whoa I just got chills all through my body... "We are trying to wake up by learning our source code" my higher self whatever that may be says yes!
Couldn't stop watching, thank you so much for this beautiful and insightful podcast
Lex: "Every time I am trying to think about that..my mind shuts down.."
Eric: "No. Don't do that."
Hahaha ... We have another tshirt slogan to go with " Russian so I romanticise about everything".
dude I just listened to the first episode today and had a blast. and now this. bless you guys. love you both
Watch the Schmidhuber episode
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I love you, Lex. Your humility, grace and dignity are not only inspiring and highly motivating, I believe both you (I discovered you both around the same time several years ago) and Eric are absolutely necessary for such a time as this. May God bless you and keep you, my friend. Yup, I consider you a dear friend, and I’ve never met you.
Thanks, Lex, for having Eric on. I think he's brilliant!
"It all begins from the middle finger" Thats a t-shirt alright.
most epic quote of all time
On my wedding day last year, we went and visited the war memorial in Orem, UT. Thanks for this wonderful tradition Eric!
This is a fun and stimulating series of interviews. I find myself wishing though that Eric would refrain from being patronizing to Lex.
He has to act like this because he doesn't actually have anything. Same reason he admonishes academic journals, if he attempted to define with specifics what he is talking about people would immediately recognize that it is false.
@@saladtnogs What’s you expertise? Just want to know.
I think maybe that Eric has his own way of communicating that is simply different from ours. Let's allow him to be who he is. Those he talks to don't seem to mind.
@@alexanderthesk8160 who is stopping him from being himself? People just suspect his outrageously lofty claims of a paradigm shifting discovery, arguably greater than that of relativity, is bullshit. Eric acts offended by the skepticism but has produced NOTHING to argue for or against.
@@MrMashyker ChemE Master's and working through doc program with dissertation on functional analysis in relation to Hilbert Space curves specifically regarding laminar flow
It was one of great conversations that I've ever listen until now at this CZcams channel.
I appreciate this conversation. Thank you, gentlemen!!🙏😃
I’m not “caught up either.”
I want to learn. I want to know
listening to this conversation instead of Netflix streaming tonight and damn if it is not 1000% more entertaining and engaging
Does make one question how brilliant these fellas really are
As a 36 year old man I feel like I'm walking through a field full of ghosts that are still only concerned about themselves after death. I've been fighting myself trying not to want to become one of them and learn from their mistakes. And the field is owned by old bloated institutions that refuse to rotate or change the crop.
I read that you're fighting something in yourself, a temptation, and I imagine there is incentive to fight and incentive not to fight.
Do the ghosts reference dimmed down narcissists who live bliss ignorant lives?
"Remember the Russian revolution of 1907?"
seems like Eric is living his second life
@Bill lol, lenin was a tatar
malachi simonyan that’s bullshit regardless of his ethnicity
@Bill Just like the one in france in 1789.
@Bill i think my father mentioned that. Good clarification.
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I watched the Geometric Unity lecture when it came out, really glad to have this as a follow up!
This is one of the most important conversations that have happened in my short lifetime of 20 some odd years
Couldn’t agree more
I’d like to hear Eric talk more about the institutional illness in the system. Where are the rebels ? Not the ones burning down the cities , the men and women that will save our society.
@Lex Fridman @Eric Weinstein Agree that this conversation is very critical. @Bret Weinstein is another great mind / voice, and could name a few others that are growing voices of reason. I suspect a new, independent social media platform will arise soon where your voices will be crucial.
Is it just me or it seems like Eric does not want to be understood? He seems to enjoy this title of the crazy smart guy who is so above intellectually that we cannot comprehend his thoughts. I do not buy his shtick because Richard Feynmann (who has ACTUAL contributions in physics) does a way better job in explaining concepts. I agree with Einstein when he says "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough", and since Eric talks in such a convoluted manner about his theory (even in his lecture), it seems to me that Eric's goal is NOT to present his idea.. but to plant this idea in his audience that he is right and the entire academic community is corrupt and wrong.
I actually share that sentiment and I agree that academia has its fair share of issues (self citation, institutional bias etc).. But if you do not even upload a manuscript on the internet and expect your audience to believe your claims purely based on your vague explanation of your theory.. I just do not trust him.
CHANGE MY MIND
Aditya Dendukuri he has a unique thing going on where he likes to talk about when his thoughts are in superposition. It’s not neat, it’s not tidy, it doesn’t come to a nice conclusion.
It’s about paradigm. Like Schrödinger's cat, we will see. I don’t see it as a weakness I see it as honesty.
It’s the same situation with geometric unity. It’s a different way of looking at the same stuff and that means something. I’m still chewing geometric unity but it’s going somewhere.
The Einstein quote is only applicable for certain types of concepts. For example let’s get Karl Friston to explain his free energy principal in 5 mins.
On this same podcast it took 50 minutes and it was a cursory treatment, but do I think he is wrong or doesn’t understand it well? Of course I don’t.
YES!!!
He is resisting not speaking down, he is encouraging speaking up. He is capable of thoughts that are perhaps absurd unless you are willing to allow him to continue trying to vocalise his theory.
I don't hink he is narcissistic at all and not trying to be an enigma.
He is challenging and the convalutions are his ability to draw upon multiple streams of thought. To me this provides discussions that invite anyone to debate him.
Why wouldn't he enjoy being of unique character? And his hair is luxurious, how is it "crazy"?
I have a beehive. Just because it looks awesome.
Big hair no cares.
I don't mind if I don't change yours.
But I challenge the initial premise that he "enjoys not being understood". He is going above and beyond to explain what he understands.
Wait what? I just did a googling and looking around on arxiv and ...yea, there appears to be no manuscript at all. I also got the feeling that a lot of other people here did that he was being intentionally vague, not really trying to be understood. Now that I know that he's been talking about this since 2013 and still hasn't even committed anything concrete to paper... That doesn't inspire me with a lot of confidence. He alluded early in the interview that he didn't approve of the way he would be criticized by academia. He was vague about that, too, but now I am thinking that he's just afraid that his ideas will be successfully challenged. Also not very inspiring. Or am I missing something here?
I watched some of his lectures. He does appear to have some important equations reformulated in his theory. I think it would be worth for someone that understands this math really well to try to recover simple equations (like F=ma) from Eriks equations just like how one can recover more basic rules in electromagnetism from maxwell's equations. The math is a bit beyond me at the moment but it would be a good roadmap of things to study.
This is one of the most powerful and most inspiring channels, good sir. Thank you very much for your efforts.
Lex, you are such an amazing interviewer. I've watched Eric give explanations of Geometric Unity to multiple interviewers, none of whom have teased such a great one out of him.
"Huevos are more important than money" priceless
Great conversation between two very smart people. Thanks, Lex, for a great talk, as always!