Jakl vs BRN180

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    A viewer asked me to compare the PSA JAKL to the Brownells BRN-180. So, we take a look at both, compare them and I decide if I could only have one - which one would it be?
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  • @bonedale
    @bonedale Před 2 měsíci +51

    can everyone just stop asking Mac how to get involved in the firearms industry? please

  • @grunt1807
    @grunt1807 Před 2 měsíci +89

    I'm holding off on buying a Jakl until the kinks are all worked out and it reaches its final Super-Saiyan form, I'm also excited about the 308 version. What brings me to side with the Jakl is the swappable charging handle, the AK-like gas system, and knowing that PSA will continue to upgrade and support the system, unlike my ACR.

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  Před 2 měsíci +16

      All very valid points!

    • @Arkancide
      @Arkancide Před 2 měsíci +4

      Agreed, in a year or three when they're done iterating on it, the JAKL will be a fine rifle. But I don't think I'll be purchasing one even then. Replacing perfectly good, functioning and kitted out PSA guns that I own with a JAKL just doesn't make sense. If it was modular enough to run the three calibers I care about(5.56, 300BLK, and 308) off one highly durable chassis that'd be one thing. One lower and two or three uppers would be an interesting thing. But I don't think that's how it works. So unless I have a really tragic boating accident, I'll pass.
      BRN180 is neat, but in the same boat. I suppose this is only an issue for people who dearly want piston guns.

    • @grunt1807
      @grunt1807 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@Arkancide The jakl isn't going to replace my kitted BCM or any other of my rifles. It will be just another rifle in my inventory. I just like the AK-like operating system, especially in 308, and future PSA support.

    • @Arkancide
      @Arkancide Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@grunt1807 I see. It may be because I'm a poor, but that thought never crossed my mind... Having an 'inventory' of rifles is beyond my imagination. Well, good on ya, and I hope you enjoy them!

    • @sedevri864
      @sedevri864 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Arkancide Honestly I'm with you on this one......might also be because I'm a poor but who knows. Once the 308 version comes out it would be great to only need two lowers to use and three uppers. Plus, and I know its just wishful thinking, but maybe we could even see PSA come out with a 12 gauge upper for the 308 lower.

  • @gagemason3865
    @gagemason3865 Před 2 měsíci +63

    The JAKL reminds me of the 1st gen MCX. Heavy and unrefined, with rolling changes being done as it came out. Which eventually turned into the light weight version of the MCX. If I was a betting man, I would wager that we’ll see a “light weight” JAKL come out in the foreseeable future. They just gotta figure out what parts do and don’t need to be overbuilt.

    • @armorers_wrench
      @armorers_wrench Před 2 měsíci +11

      Nothing on any PSA gun is overbuilt. It's heavy but not overbuilt. It's just sloppy.

    • @erichmiller4812
      @erichmiller4812 Před 2 měsíci +5

      And before Sig did its beta testing on the gen 1 mcx and the verstus, they did the same damn thing with the sig556. Put an A1 profile barrel on it, lost the fish gills and quadrants and you got a lighter, better but less modular gun. And then quit supporting it Ala the mcx, and vertus.

    • @DunkThemMuffins
      @DunkThemMuffins Před 2 měsíci +2

      I have a JAKL I've put some rounds through, and I think the biggest single thing they can shave weight on is the handguard. Idk if the longer railed variants are thinner, but on my 10.5" the handguard is DUMMY thick. I imagine they could shave some weight off of it since it's monolithic, but I'm no engineer lol.
      Would also like to see them move to a different barrel profile and something more standardized with the AR pattern for the barrel fitting, but that might not be possible without an expensive redesign.

    • @TheCamaro5
      @TheCamaro5 Před 2 měsíci +3

      After owning one that is 100 percent false. The monolithic upper and rail and barrel are too thick or over built. If they made the mono lithic upper half the thickness and the rail the same they could shave some weight. But for now its built like a tank. I found that with the right forgrip the weight is not longer an issue.@@armorers_wrench

    • @TheCamaro5
      @TheCamaro5 Před 2 měsíci

      same observation i got the monolithic upper and rail could be half the thickness they are now.@@DunkThemMuffins

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever Před 2 měsíci +40

    Another great highly informed comparison video. Thank you!

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  Před 2 měsíci +4

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @strykerentllc
      @strykerentllc Před měsícem

      @@Militaryarmschannel DAEWOO K2 has entered the chat. What's old is new yet again. Warranted comparison video forthcoming.

  • @kman0146
    @kman0146 Před 2 měsíci +18

    I noticed Brownells is now selling both a folding charging handle and a non-reciprocating charging handle for the BRN-180. Midwest Industries is selling an AR-180 style folding stock that looks similar to the one Brownells used to sell.

  • @MrBallsOSteel
    @MrBallsOSteel Před 2 měsíci +150

    Puppy hearing protection has gotta be the best thing I’ve ever heard of

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  Před 2 měsíci +44

      There are some good companies out there offering it. This set is made by Rex Specs.

    • @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
      @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 Před 2 měsíci +18

      @@MilitaryarmschannelI wouldn’t complain if we got more footage of your pup.

    • @mghegotagun
      @mghegotagun Před 2 měsíci +3

      I was wondering if such a thing existed for cats and dogs. That's cool.

    • @TsunTzu
      @TsunTzu Před 2 měsíci +18

      Flat out appreciate seeing that, so many people just obliterating their poor pet's hearing.

    • @lzxray6781
      @lzxray6781 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Mac, you do have a great dog! He doesn't mind wearing ear pro at all! Glad you take good care of him or her!!

  • @danielw1284
    @danielw1284 Před 2 měsíci +44

    I’ve picked up a BRN180 and have been very happy with it. I’ve told myself I’ll hold off on a JAKL upper until a pencil-barrel version or updated gen-II version is released - will likely just grab the 13.9 P&W upper and throw it onto one of my spare sat-night-special Anderson lowers.

    • @DunkThemMuffins
      @DunkThemMuffins Před 2 měsíci +6

      I'm sure you already know this, but there's a part or two you need to swap out on your lower if you want to slap the JAKL upper onto an AR lower. I believe it's the ping pong paddle you need to swap, but it's been too long since I did mine lol.

  • @GammaRayTrae
    @GammaRayTrae Před 2 měsíci +78

    I think I’m going to go with the jakl because I like the looks just a bit better. I like pws but PSA for me has been killing it lately and I haven’t had any issues. Can’t wait for the 308 jakl

    • @FXIIBeaver
      @FXIIBeaver Před 2 měsíci +2

      PWS website is completely out of stock.

    • @SimplestUsername
      @SimplestUsername Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@FXIIBeaver Jakl's are restocked about once a week. Just keep checking the stock at 11:30-Noon Eastern Time until the version you want is in stock.

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Před 2 měsíci

      Retro vs acr

    • @johnhenrybottom1992
      @johnhenrybottom1992 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Jakl for me.

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@johnhenrybottom1992 jakl me off

  • @knightjd22
    @knightjd22 Před 2 měsíci +20

    I bought the 14.5 jakl and I really have been enjoying it

  • @nathanwatson2072
    @nathanwatson2072 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Haven’t even watched it yet. I love it. I’ve been waiting for this video for the last year and a half.

  • @jaredlostetter265
    @jaredlostetter265 Před 2 měsíci +9

    I have the 180 and love it… I will say this , when I first got it the upper and lower, they wouldn’t fit together and both were sent back to pws …got back brand new upper and lower… so they have had issues… once I got them back it has been flawless

  • @Sagittariustoo
    @Sagittariustoo Před 2 měsíci +35

    I would choose the puppy with the hearing protection. 🙂

  • @ianray8823
    @ianray8823 Před 2 měsíci +26

    Can't stop thinking about puppy hearing protection on different breeds of doggo

  • @Kentucky.Tactical
    @Kentucky.Tactical Před 2 měsíci +5

    I own both guns. Had the Jakl for a while now and love it. Haven't got to shoot my Brn180 yet, just got the upper today and the lower is off being engraved. Thanks for this video.

  • @leofightsback6514
    @leofightsback6514 Před 2 měsíci +64

    I sold my SCAR back to the gun shop & brought a psa jakl. 2 daggers 100 round drum & 250 rounds.

  • @bevangamewell2283
    @bevangamewell2283 Před 2 měsíci +30

    I built a 300blk pistol using the Brownell's BRN180 upper. Easy, reliable and fun to shoot suppressed or not. (Yes, a little punchy)
    I have been watching PSA for a while now. Saw your visit to their factory. I really like how they think! Saving up for a PSA purchase in the future.
    Refreshing video.

    • @caseyschryber1255
      @caseyschryber1255 Před 2 měsíci

      Too bad the barrel LITERALLY SCREWS OUT. Garbage design

  • @MattCaliber
    @MattCaliber Před 2 měsíci +6

    My favorite aspect of the PSA Jackl is that it is similar to the ACR rifle. A highly underrated rifle in my opinion.

  • @PistonDrivenGun
    @PistonDrivenGun Před 2 měsíci +5

    BRN 180 is actually made by primary weapon systems. Who also makes a long stroke piston AR. It is fantastic

  • @wildcat8598
    @wildcat8598 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I have a 10.5” 223 WYLDE BRN180 upper on a ADM ambi lower with a Geissele flat trigger, DD grip, triangle folder, Trijicon MRO, Surefire M600DF with Modbutton lite and an ASR 3 prong for the Saker 556 can. Great suppressor host and the smoothest racking rifle I’ve ever felt. Feels like the bolt is on ball bearings

  • @keyslapper
    @keyslapper Před 2 měsíci +3

    I just picked up a BRN-180 upper, and I wasn't certain I want to keep it. Now I feel much better about it.
    Of course PSA won't ship to my state, so that's not an option. Yet.
    Thank you!

  • @danfoster1935
    @danfoster1935 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Jakl, I support innovation, and PSA is faithful the civilian market.

    • @kazansky22
      @kazansky22 Před měsícem

      Yea I always buy from PSA simply because of their loyalty to us.

  • @petehafner3844
    @petehafner3844 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Nice review thanks

  • @zippy45acp53
    @zippy45acp53 Před 2 měsíci

    I love the folding stock ar's. Bought the early release Sig MCX. Just recently picked up a Foxtrot Mike 12.5 pistol complete for $600. Added a folding brace, very lightweight and accurate little gun. Has run 100%.

  • @gordon5008
    @gordon5008 Před 19 dny +1

    The term "at home" is for the short bus and considering the original AR180, ACR and Current Scars were/are made in the USA it's extra short bus.

  • @Spartacus223able
    @Spartacus223able Před 2 měsíci +4

    Another upper that would be interesting to through in the mix, would be the Foxtrot Mike FM15 gen 2.

  • @peterreily1490
    @peterreily1490 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Another awesome new video. While others flounder and can’t come up with new content… Tim delivers the good stuff.
    BRN-4 over here. Or the URGI upper brownells had a $300 discount on.

  • @XrayMike17plus1
    @XrayMike17plus1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have a couple of BRN-180'S with the BRN-180 'Modern' lowers. These were bought before the Jakl was released. Tried to get an FDE version, but they weren't available at the time. The Jakl is interesting and may wind up in the collection at some point.

  • @jaretmoskal5558
    @jaretmoskal5558 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Your dog with the earmuffs on is adorable

  • @ricks.1092
    @ricks.1092 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Glad some of the issues with the Jakl were already addressed. However, PSA does need to use a different (lighter) profile barrel. Shaving off 8 oz would be great.
    I plan of purchasing a Jakl, just waiting to see if PSA is going to address the weight issue. Something tells me, it will be a while...due to they're going to concentrate their efforts toward the .308 model.

  • @RadicallyMilkToast
    @RadicallyMilkToast Před 2 měsíci

    As a potential PSA JAKL buyer, thank you for your input. Learning the rolling changes are coming out for the rifle makes me want to wait for a "Mark 2" version once they work through all the feedback.

  • @jaredvos4431
    @jaredvos4431 Před 2 měsíci +11

    I love seeing innovation in the industry, and I wish all of these companies coming out with unique designs great success. But they (PSA, CMMG, Sig, Perun, etc.) really need to stop putting charging handles so far forward and so close to the top rail. Robinson Armament figured it out years ago, put the charging handle further back just above the magwell. This way it doesn't interfere with your grip when you go to C-clamp it, and also you don't scrape your knuckles on your optic when you charge it. Minor nit-picking I know, truly I do hope these companies do well and continue to improve on their new and interesting designs. Thanks for another fun video Tim!

    • @FXIIBeaver
      @FXIIBeaver Před 2 měsíci +3

      The charging handle on the Jakl is non reciprocal and high enough it won’t bother you.

    • @DunkThemMuffins
      @DunkThemMuffins Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@FXIIBeaverI have the 10.5 Jakl and if you put a PEQ or other LAM on the top rail, it will definitely impede your access to the charging handle. I really wish they had some sort of extra long folding charging handle that would clear LAMs when unfolded, but the length needed would expose it to carbon from the A2 birdcage.

    • @FXIIBeaver
      @FXIIBeaver Před 2 měsíci

      @@DunkThemMuffins and if you run that exact setup on an AR you won’t have anywhere to grip. If you want hand room you bought the wrong upper.

    • @DunkThemMuffins
      @DunkThemMuffins Před 2 měsíci

      @@FXIIBeaver You do know that the majority of LAMs have the fire button on top right? You just use your thumb to press the button from a C clamp grip if you need the laser. Never had a problem with hand room and a LAM on a standard 10.3 upper.

  • @MerpSquirrel
    @MerpSquirrel Před 2 měsíci +22

    I appreciate that they sponsor you and other gun tubers. But Im not a big fan of the private gun schools advertising. Because there are some expert gun smiths like school of the modern rifle, or ex-military armors. But setting an expectation that they need to pay tens of thousands for schooling before they can put their skills into practice in the field seems setting up the same cycle of never ending debt as other industries.

    • @fraudsniffer7280
      @fraudsniffer7280 Před 2 měsíci +8

      My problem with these online gunsmithing programs is two-fold. First, they largely exist to siphon GI Bill and federal student loan money. I’ll guarantee most of their students are using one of those two payment methods. Second, and more important, gunsmithing is a skilled trade. And like with any skilled trade you REALLY should learn it in-person rather than mostly online. I don’t care what anyone says…learning isn’t equally effective with both approaches. There’s no substitute for having an instructor literally standing by you as you learn.
      The last two gunsmiths I used were horrible. They seriously didn’t know what they were doing. Wanna guess what both had in common? They had “learned” gunsmithing from one of these online schools.
      I’m afraid these schools are likely churning out people who really don’t have a full and well-developed skill set, in turn flooding the market with people who probably don’t have much business calling themselves “gunsmiths”.
      There IS a demand for gunsmiths but finding one who actually knows what they’re doing is getting harder and harder.

    • @danclas5983
      @danclas5983 Před 2 měsíci

      @@fraudsniffer7280 Hand's on is the best way by far. Most of the people being churned out of these online classes should be considered Armor's, not gunsmiths.

    • @chasewaterman4534
      @chasewaterman4534 Před 2 měsíci

      Agreed. Honestly CST (and other schools) are set up to maximize profit and maximize GI Bill intake. They had absolutely turned CST into a cash cow. That being said, most of the instructors knew what they were doing and the real Rubicon is getting to work on actual customer guns enough times that you figure out what the hell's going on. The reality is, there are many types of guns you can specialize in and some of them you'll make money doing. You're not going to get rich repairing Grandpa's shotgun.
      The other fact of life that comes with going to gunsmithing school, is that less than 10% of those students will actually become gunsmiths. Experienced dedication and hard work get you there like any other skilled technical job, and there is plenty of work to be done. Pick something you love doing and specialize in that. You do it long enough and you'll be an expert.

    • @1stidvet553
      @1stidvet553 Před 2 měsíci

      These youtubers should not be pushing something that will get their viewers into perpetual debt. They do it for money…they could take different sponsors that wont bankrupt Americans

    • @IwatchFilm
      @IwatchFilm Před měsícem

      @@1stidvet553 Bullshit. It's a personal responsibility and choice whether or not to take on a debt. No different than taking a loan for a car or any other loan. I have zero sympathy for anyone with "student debt". Being in "perpetual" debt is a choice, no one is forced into it.

  • @davidmeeker7481
    @davidmeeker7481 Před 2 měsíci

    I had originally looked at the BRN180 after passing up a chance to buy a Sterling AR180 back in earlt 90s. But I went with the Jackl as it afforded a 14.5 pin and welded. I always liked the 180 folding stock.

  • @MrSumGuns
    @MrSumGuns Před 2 měsíci +7

    Gotta go with BRN 180. It's a proven system. Great video as always thanks!

  • @wobblybrute
    @wobblybrute Před 2 měsíci

    Great video

  • @Sergiosanchez5978
    @Sergiosanchez5978 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I have a JAKL and love it. I will definitely get the 308 when it comes out.

  • @1coldaxe
    @1coldaxe Před 2 měsíci +2

    Pick up a BRN 180 running it now For 2 years, I have no problem with it.Our may i say the only problem was.The stock came loose and I tighten it up with an allen Wrench been running it 2 years now. No problem Flawless no complaint.

  • @maxhunter3574
    @maxhunter3574 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Got the 5.56 and .300bo jakl uppers, love them so far. Probably will get the 7.62x39 brn180 upper since I prefer the AR style mags system over the rock n lock ak crap. Both are great, jakl is a little heavier but super smooth cycling and recoil impulse. The brn180 is lighter but choppier. I'm still playing around with muzzle devices too.

  • @SKSlaya12
    @SKSlaya12 Před 2 měsíci

    I built one on a adm uic180 lower and its amazing no issues I'm even thinking about sbring it. I run it with an original mcx stock

  • @HDBujutsu1775
    @HDBujutsu1775 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love my BRN180, great carbine.

  • @DEATHWATCHxOPS
    @DEATHWATCHxOPS Před 2 měsíci

    I already have the jakl and a few ar's in different calibers. I love my jakl. The forend gets hot so I use a foregip. It's definitely front heavy. The model I have I believe is newer than the 1 you have in the video.

  • @MotecM
    @MotecM Před 2 měsíci

    KNS also makes a picatinny buffer tube thread end-caps for AR15 lowers. Just make sure you buy the version with wings to cover the rear take-down detent spring…

  • @natermull8888
    @natermull8888 Před 2 měsíci

    I love my BRN-180. I’ve been teased by a reliable source that Gen 3 is on the way, some of the improvements were already incorporated into the .350 Legend version.

  • @TheCamaro5
    @TheCamaro5 Před 2 měsíci

    Would def go with the JAKL. Very easy to mount to a ar lower. I see the new ones have different charging handle and gas nob. Always improving is a plus to me.

  • @MrJbrew69
    @MrJbrew69 Před měsícem

    Besides it being slightly heavy once I fitted mine out, my Jakl is my favorite toy. Im going to slim it down soon. I got the 16” variant in FDE, PSA had a good deal on them a couple months ago for $1100.

  • @aequitas8749
    @aequitas8749 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The ACR we didn't ask for but we needed.

  • @ASMR-soothingsounds
    @ASMR-soothingsounds Před 2 měsíci +2

    BRN-180 for me.

  •  Před 2 měsíci

    Dude cracks me up....info & humor.

  • @charleslowrey9309
    @charleslowrey9309 Před 2 měsíci

    Might have to get a .308 version when they hit. If your Military or a Veteran, Calcara has some nice discounts on the 816. Bought their upper, and built out a stripped lower pretty nice finding parts on sale. Total basic rifle price was about PSA's msrp for the JAKL.

  • @Matthew-bc9mr
    @Matthew-bc9mr Před 2 měsíci

    I like psa, and will def be getting something from them before too long. But have been looking for a 300blk platform to build out as a suppressor host, and that upper with the closeable gas block to do single shots sounds perfect. I will definitely have to look for that..

  • @russherron7447
    @russherron7447 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Built my BRN 180 just to be different & have the old style look, but runs like a champ.

  • @oorahjoe
    @oorahjoe Před měsícem

    Thanks

  • @tyleryork6071
    @tyleryork6071 Před 2 měsíci

    Love the 180 and the smooth recoil. Was planning on getting a jakl with the pinned muzzle for my suppressor. Once i finally received my hux suppressor, I'm taken back a bit by the added weight. I also added a new optic. Everything is pretty heavy.
    Knowing the jakl is heavier, even with a couple inches less barrel, has me paused on that decision.
    I'm not totally someone who loves optics but the whole setup with a suppressor just feels like unnecessary weight.
    The brn is really a quiet contender here. I'd love to see them expand and build upon that product. They need product developers with the aptitude of PSA but the engineering chops of Brownells contractor builders.

  • @lphillips6282
    @lphillips6282 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Considering you were a fan of primary weapon systems, and also a fan of Robinson armament. I would very much like to see you compare the Robinson XCR with the new PWS UXR…. They seem very similar in concept. And very similar and design. Both of which feature quick change barrel and caliber system, and appear to come completely ambidextrous.

  • @BarisPalabiyik
    @BarisPalabiyik Před 2 měsíci +1

    PSA will release a bullpup lower for the Jackal. Which you will like for sure, hopefully it will address the front weight the barrel and gas block quite a bit.

  • @LuisRodriguez-gt9hx
    @LuisRodriguez-gt9hx Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesome, I hope you do a similar video with the scar and 308 jakl when it’s released.

    • @mrrustygray
      @mrrustygray Před 2 měsíci

      SCAR at 5 times the cost. I will always choose the JAKL.

  • @jtlbz
    @jtlbz Před 2 měsíci +1

    I wish you would've added a rock River PDS In the category... It's also very similar.

  • @buddyg5584
    @buddyg5584 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'd pick the Jakl because it doesn't have that cutout in the upper receiver for the reciprocating charging handle. That cutout just makes it easier for debris to get into the internals and cause a malfunction

  • @justanotherinternetexpert7743

    I like the Jakl for its non-reciprocating charging handles, and the system seems like it is more sealed up then the BRN-180, I have a Sig MCX Lt so I already own a "ar180 like" system. ....but I actually really like My POF-USA P415 EDGE, and my LWRC SIX8 IC-A5. The lwrc and POF piston systems are really nice.

  • @doolay1988
    @doolay1988 Před 2 měsíci

    That's MAC for the overview. I really want to see the same changes to the JAKL as you mentioned. It's just too front heavy for 2024 standards. PSA, let's do something about it!
    Also, how structurally sound is the JAKL barrel to upper fitment? Is it really just a few screws? 🤔

  • @robertcaseydavis
    @robertcaseydavis Před 2 měsíci +1

    I love your dog hearing protection!
    Based MAC!!!

  • @doejohn8674
    @doejohn8674 Před 2 měsíci +2

    There is a BRN-180 in 350 Legend, which might interest some hunters

  • @Swaffles870
    @Swaffles870 Před 2 měsíci

    I'd def go with the Jakl. I've got my eyes on one currently and the support it has over the 180 is very soon, if not already, to overshadow it

  • @mavrikmavrik3032
    @mavrikmavrik3032 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video! JAKL definitely needs a break in. I’m not sure exactly why but it could be reduced internal upper dimensions due to the cerakote. The gas system also needs more gas (perhaps a larger gas port). Mine runs fine on max gas but only on max gas. There is a lot of mass reciprocating with each shot so the shooting experience is very different than an AR. It’s a nice rifle and a great AR/AK hybrid if that’s what you’re looking for. The BRN-180 has been out for a while and generally is higher quality (less QC issues) in my opinion. We have one with around 8k rounds on it and it’s a very soft shooting rifle. Having both I would buy a 180. However, if you open up the options I would consider the Bren 2 over both and if you can afford it, the Spear LT is pretty nice. (And yeah, the PWS systems are an option too)

  • @recondo886
    @recondo886 Před 2 měsíci

    I have two BRN-180s. one 18.5 inch and one 16 inch. both with the BRN-180 lower that mimics the OG AR18 lower.
    I would buy a couple more since they've come out with new caliber uppers, but they stopped selling the lowers. kind of makes the whole point moot. spare parts are even scarce on Brownells website. Hopefully PWS will have parts or maybe Nodak Spud continues the lower.

  • @arikjohnson412
    @arikjohnson412 Před 2 měsíci

    A3 Tactical is in the process of trickling out a bullpup chassis for both these uppers (and FM) and I’ve got a pistol version on order for my .300BLK JAKL. If PSA would do a 13.7” P&W upper in .300 I’d pick a rifle version up for that as well but waiting to see how the Triad runs as a pistol chassis first and likely will try the rifle version for my BRN-180 uppers as well. It’ll be short, even with a can, that’s for sure! JAKL Triad takes a new front hand guard which adds to complexity so I figured simpler versions would be easier if I could figure out the pistol bullpup.

  • @XDWX
    @XDWX Před 2 měsíci

    I have been very interested in one of these options to use with a bullpup kit.

  • @user-vy8fy3cz1s
    @user-vy8fy3cz1s Před 2 měsíci

    Can you review the FB Grot??No one has a review of the battle rifle yet.Its the most inventive rifle of all time. You are my favorite gun reviewer and I feel the best man for the job. As I'm sure you know they claim it shoots better with less recoil than both the Scar and the Bren 2.

  • @samcoz95
    @samcoz95 Před 2 měsíci

    might go with the Jakl even though its front heavier. The vibe is there and I think its a good first piston AR

  • @coreymerrill3257
    @coreymerrill3257 Před 2 měsíci

    With a few updates ,the rra pds would be a very good option . Give it a 1/8 twist barrel instead of 1/9, chf qpq nitrided, a few cartridge options and a few other options like barrel profile , brackets to use standard AR barrels ,ect. . It sadly never took off like it deserved too. It was made when rra was pioneering designs . They made the first Dedicated pistol caliber carbine lowers for Glock mags at about the same time they created their short stroke piston system carbine with non reciprocating forward charging handle , side folding stock, adjustable gas system and easily changed handguards for rails or no rails. Personally I think it's ascetics are really good too.

  • @kd6pn
    @kd6pn Před 2 měsíci

    Wolf A1 (T91) Upper is my pick for an AR180 style system. Lighter than both, combat proven, choice of barrel length (12, 14, 16"), and less expensive at $600. They're at AIM Surplus.

  • @donjohnson5424
    @donjohnson5424 Před 2 měsíci

    Literally deciding between these two for my refund... Thank you MAC!

  • @roysmith1995
    @roysmith1995 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can you recommend a specific hearing protection for dogs? I'm very interested in getting some for my Great Dane.

  • @alexanderstordeur9434
    @alexanderstordeur9434 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Canadian legal gun vs what used to be a cheaper alternative to a Colt M16/603/SP1 AR-15 back in the day.

  • @donh6177
    @donh6177 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I think a better comparison would be a Robinson Arms XCR versus the PSA jakl.

  • @jasonwheat5242
    @jasonwheat5242 Před 2 měsíci

    I'm really liking the cmmg dessent. I would like to see further testing between the descent, brn 180, and the jackel.

  • @Huntinggearguy
    @Huntinggearguy Před 2 měsíci

    Shoe Horning the gas piston into a di ar15 setup is what a lot of Canadian 180 alternatives tried to do. Resulted in a bunch of bent and broken gas pistons.

  • @vmpgsc
    @vmpgsc Před 2 měsíci

    FM-15 not in the mix? It'd also be cool to get your take on the AR-ish bullpup adapters out there that mate to the bufferless uppers like the JAKL and BRN-180.

  • @Usmc0341
    @Usmc0341 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I prefer the Jakl over the BRN. Just preference. PSA has been very innovative lately, they just need to really ring in their quality control. I have two of their AR15s and i must say they run perfectly fine. But next to my DDM4 and my two Giesseles, when you put them together you can see and feel the difference in quality. But they do run very well

  • @Colten0315
    @Colten0315 Před 14 dny

    I have the 180 and have had no complaints with it. The first rifle I truly wanted after I got out of the Marine Corps was the ACR, so if I had the money I’d buy the Jakl. I think in the long run the Jakl will be a better rifle.

  • @Sigrafix
    @Sigrafix Před měsícem

    I like the Jakl on paper.. In practice, I'd go with the BRN 180 just on quality alone.
    I've had a 10.5'' BRN 180s Gen2 in .223 wylde for over 2 years on an Anderson lower, it's been flawless and surprisingly accurate.

  • @TheSlipAngle
    @TheSlipAngle Před 2 měsíci +1

    Pencil barrels don't work on piston systems because of the disruption in barrel harmonics introduced by the piston. It can be done but then you'll repeat what happened to Sig with the first version of the MCX failing the military accuracy testing.

  • @andresjackson9367
    @andresjackson9367 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The jakl stock looks awesome

    • @mavrikmavrik3032
      @mavrikmavrik3032 Před 2 měsíci

      It does but…if you like to have a long pull (extend the stock out) and rest your cheek near the back of the stock you will fall into that gap where there is no cheek well. When I shoot it I have to change up my shooting mechanics so my cheek can rest on the stock. It looks great but for me I don’t like it.

  • @miiasutherland852
    @miiasutherland852 Před 2 měsíci

    Cool, I've been looking at both. Want something w a bigger round than my scorpion

  • @marcofguzman3075
    @marcofguzman3075 Před 2 měsíci

    Absolutely fantastic thank you had a 180 in Comifornia when it was legal but I did say was , Comifornia changed it fast and furious 😠 😮

  • @stevecushman2830
    @stevecushman2830 Před 2 měsíci

    I bought a BRN-180 556 rifle upper when the only options were pistol or rifle length. because I wanted an AR that would function with the stock folded. It was on sale for $750 & I mated it with a PSA theme lower. I completed the lower with a Sylvan Arms folding stock adapter, minimalist stock, lower completion parts from my parts stock. Including FFL transfer fee, sales tax on the stripped lower & FFL transfer I have less than $200 in the lower. I probably will replace the muzzle device with one with ASR suppressor mount. My Silencer Central Banish 30 & Silencer Co Hybrid 46M and Omega 300 all have ASR mounts.

  • @hypernova465
    @hypernova465 Před 2 měsíci

    I own a brn180sh and it doesn’t have the dust cover like other brn180. The port opened for charging handles allows a pinky sized item to go in. I’d love to see how this affects the overall reliability of it under different conditions.

  • @bayardocaldera
    @bayardocaldera Před 2 měsíci

    Beautiful puppy.

  • @KnifeCursed
    @KnifeCursed Před 2 měsíci +2

    I’d probably go with the JAKL. Just seems a bit simpler of a design. One piece piston vs multi part. Handguard doesn’t need to be removed for cleaning. A lighter barrel would be cool like you said.

    • @KalashniKEV762
      @KalashniKEV762 Před 2 měsíci

      JAKL is made for going short and quiet. A light barrel does not make sense, or a barrel in the length reviewed.

    • @KnifeCursed
      @KnifeCursed Před 2 měsíci

      @@KalashniKEV762 I don’t have any issues with a short suppressed gun having a pencil barrel. For my use, the trade offs are worth it.

  • @skydivingcomrade1648
    @skydivingcomrade1648 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Piston driven, with folding stocks and AR controls

  • @mike6252
    @mike6252 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yay for the Shepherd ❤😍

  • @handroids1981
    @handroids1981 Před 2 měsíci

    Excellent video, thanks MAC and everyone else involved.
    I think the PunLuber Entertainment section is tired of generic AR556 content.

  • @jasonseiverling5354
    @jasonseiverling5354 Před 2 měsíci

    I came into this video already knowing I wanted a BRN-180 just like yours that is no longer available. 🤨 The 308 JAKL I will definitely be looking into. Thanks a million because I didn’t know ear pro for dogs was available.

  • @kingsolomoniii8594
    @kingsolomoniii8594 Před 2 měsíci

    I really enjoy my BRN 180.

  • @freetobe3
    @freetobe3 Před 2 měsíci

    A polymer lower and sleek blocky look upper of the AR-18 based platform sounds like success, and cute.

  • @jazon9
    @jazon9 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Comper JAKL to Robinson Arms XCR

  • @PropsnPews
    @PropsnPews Před 2 měsíci

    I went with the BRN180 because PWS in the design tried to stay close to the original Eugene Stoner AR180. Also PWS supports the product after sale on this platform.

  • @marine6680
    @marine6680 Před 2 měsíci

    I think the AK roll charging method would be more viable on the Jakl than an actual AK, because the CH is forward of the magazine. Makes reaching the CH easier even on the strong hand side.
    So I wouldn't mind running the CH on the right side, even if I typically prefer left side for side charging.

  • @tugdrivinj
    @tugdrivinj Před 2 měsíci +1

    I would like to see the jakl in a 300 blk rifle. As far as I can tell right now 300 blk are all super short.
    So far though I think I will stick to AR for now.

  • @southerner985
    @southerner985 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have both, love both, but I do like the Jakle a bit more