2023 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium: Is This A Better Buy Compared To The TRD Pro?
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
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This 23' Toyota 4-runner SUV looks amazing.
Terrific job with your content as always Ben.
i just got my 2023 4runner and my trd off road premium came with the blacked out emblems, the trd skid plate, rubber all weather mats and cargo netting and mat along with cloth mats and crawl control. i am very happy with it.
best value presently is the GX460/Landcruiser Prado. In most areas they are not marked up like the TRD Pro, plus you get so much more smile 😀. Great video as always.
Absolutely love the honesty. Exactly what I was looking for.
I love my 22 4Runner TRD ORP with Xseries loaded package. Tbh, one I purchased are hard to come by in dealerships. So I am glad to purchased it 😇
I agree, if you plan on off-roading a lot and keeping everything stock, get the Pro. If you plan on doing anything more serious get the TRD Off- road and add a 3" lift and some real off road tires. You will still be way less and have more capability. Have a 2014 Trail (basically the same as a TRD Off Road) with the lift and tires I am very happy with it. Just had it off road yesterday. Kept up with the Wranglers, TRD Pro's, Tacoma's and even a G Wagon. For a mall crawler just get the SR5. Some shiny wheels and nothing else, and you will have a great reliable family SUV and save even more.
The sr5 can do 90% of what the off-road and pro do
@@sebastianromero420it doesn't have rear locking differential or crawl control or even multi terrain select. How does it do 90% of the TRD pro when it has less off road features?
You cannot lift a TRD ORP more than 2 inches with out coming into issues with KDSS. I think 2 inches is perfect lift
These days we pay to impress. A base truck with an off road package and a few mods will do just fine. You’ll also work the vehicle instead of babying something that costs north of 60k. Just my opinion.
I have this exact SUV 2023. It does have a front camera, and cameras on the side view mirrors. The button to toggle through those views is directly under the side mirror adjustment controls. Super useful in living and parking in a city.
Got that exact vehicle coming in a few weeks, plan to replace the wheels, tires and add fox shocks so have everything i wanted from a pro but with a fraction the price, cant wait
Nice ride ! I’m a fan of keeping it stock but I totally understand wanting to make it look like a TRD PRO.
Been overloading myself on 4Runner vids lately. What to add…differences…etc? Moving from my old 06 Tacoma. 23 TRD Pro in Solar…is on the way. Not sure if I will get burnt out on the color, or not. Feel bad leaving Tacoma. Been great. I think the 4Runner will be better when I decide to adopt a new dog.
I love my white trdoff road venture trim not many out there and with the black out handles and badging and trd wheels just looks bad ass ..
Ordered my 2023 ORP! Gonna be here in a few weeks!! Lunar Rock! 😬🔥
That’s quick!!! Any updates?
How much did u pay
@@WanderingWonderer808 MSRP minus Holdback, Keep it Wild Savings & College Grad.
Just got a 2023 TRD ORP and am very pleased so far (about 1k miles). Got it on a whim calling the local Toyota dealer and they let me know there was one scheduled for delivery, so I had them hold it for me 🎉. Midnight black metallic w/KDSS and came with running boards which was all a pleasant surprise on the day of pickup. Knew the color before getting it, just not the optional equipment. Discovered that the tires were all inflated to 55psi about a week into driving it, so be sure to check the tire pressure before you leave the lot! 😅
How much did you pay if you don't mind sharing?
In Texas the ORP are hard to find. Some states like Colorado and New Mexico do not sell ORPs to out of state customers. Dealers make purchasing these vehicles difficult. Can’t wait until you can purchase Toyotas directly from the manufacturer and skip the greedy non sense dealers.
I bought my ORP in Las Cruces last year as an out of state resident. It was a complete mess with the registration since they use a 3rd party but the dealership at the time was clueless. Had to get Toyota corporate involved with several phone conferences. 3 months later I finally received my permanent registration. No market adjustment.
Totally agree it’s nearly impossible to get an *off road in Dallas
i beg to differ..
@@henryscreations call Larry H Miller American Toyota of Albuquerque or Mountain States Toyota in Denver, just to mention a couple…
@@theflyingbrompton4787 ORP’s can be found in Texas without a problem.
Just bought my orp last week i love it. Used to have tacoma off road 4x4 but the quality and ride comfort is not even close.
I would like to see more about the KDSS on the TRD OR. That is so rarely mentioned or tested.
Ya we got the TRD off-road premium and we upgraded it just how we liked it. Plus we got KDSS. We also got the upgrade to get the front and 360 camera.
Fox 2 inch front 1 inch rear lift. Method wheels, KO2 275 tires, CBI full aluminum skid plates, CBI sliders. Good stuff :)
We also swapped out to the black valences and and aftermarket TRD pro grill.
How are those 275s? Are you getting any rubbing or did you have to do some cutting?
@@theflyingbrompton4787 got 275/70r17. Method zero offset wheels. 2 inch lift and no rubbing but the install shop did the TRD pro cut.
No cab mount issues
Where did you buy your ORP? A dealer in SC said you can't get the 360 camera on the ORP, only the Pro. I wonder if that's a region issue.
@@ThatguyFirst got it in Arizona. It’s the “premium package” upgrade that’s gets you “multi terrain monitor” when you get an off-road premium. It’s confusing that the premium trim would have a premium package on top…
@@TheReligiousLeft That helps. Thanks!
I just bought this car! It’s incredible, same color too 🤩
Just ordered one last night! Same color too!
There are a lot of little things that the Pro has over the premium... for example at 6:40, you show the climate controls and they are much more simplistic lacking the LED display and dual climate zones. You'd also mentioned the missing front camera. In a vehicle this tall, the front camera can be very useful even if you're not doing a lot of offroading. You're also missing out on the 360 view. The loss of the Fox shocks is nothing to sneeze at as the upgrade and install price is quite substantial. Some things like the climate controls and front camera, you can't necessarily upgrade at any price. The exhaust that comes stock with the pro is over $1300 and it's made of stainless steel... you'll most likely never need to replace it over the life of the vehicle and the side exit is much less likely to be damaged.
As for upgrading the suspension, get a jeep if you want to go big. SUVs with independent front suspension are not easily lifted and are much more expensive to modify versus vehicles with a solid front axle. Also, the 4Runner's front diff case is easily damaged when lifted. The extra angle on the front drive shafts is the problem so if you like expensive repairs, by all means do a 3" lift. The stock suspension has enough clearance for going offroad. That lift and larger tires will dramatically degrade the on road comfort, safety, and gas mileage of your new 4Runner... not to mention possible voiding the warrantee on the drivetrain.
I've seen several videos on this exact topic and many of then sound like desperate justifications to compensate for the buyer's remorse after not having gotten the Pro to begin with. Buying the Premium and then spending tons of money and time trying to make it more like the Pro is stupid. Buy the Premium because it best suits the type of driving you're going to do or buy the Pro for the same reason. And, if you're going to "mall crawl" as you say, don't buy a body on frame truck like the 4Runner to start with... there are lots of SUVs with 4 wheel independent suspension that are more comfortable and more luxurious, get better gas mileage, are easier to get in and out of, and still will get you around in the snow and up and down the occasional gravel road.
I'm not trying to flame you, but I don't agree with the idea of buying a new vehicle and having to make upgrades to it as soon as you drive it off the lot to make it more like the model you passed on. There are a lot more things you get for the extra 8K than the wheels. It's wrong to talk about the $8K price difference like it's just a set of wheels and tires. Those will cost you about $950 for the wheels and another +-$1000 for the tires and at least $250-$400 for mounting and balancing. The SS exhaust will be another $1500 with tax and install. The Fox shocks are around $1400-1800. Toyota lists the front skid plate at $359.00 not including tax and installation which adds another $150-250... we're in the $6000 zone without addressing the front camera and climate control differences, the roof rack, etc.
So you really think. If I can , to go with the pro then 😏😏
@@christopherbahena2641 I think you should go with what you want and that also depends on what you're going to do with the vehicle. I usually buy the top trim for any car I buy. Number one berceuse I like nice cars and trucks but also because they tend to hold their value better.
Look at the used TRD Pros in the more popular colors. They tend to be unavailable or are bringing a higher price.
Personally, I bought a 23 Pro in Solar Octane. I'm not going to do anything extreme because there are only a few offroad trails in my area. A perch lift and slightly larger tires will be more than enough as far as mods and I won't be rushing to do those. More likely, I'll swap the headlights and tail lights for LEDs and sell the original buckets online while they are still shinny and new. Other than that, there's not a lot I want to change.
@@christopherbahena2641 All of the 4runners are very reliable vehicles... 15 years or 300,000 miles. And they run great on regular gas which will save you a lot of money over the life of the vehicle. If you have kids, the pro may not be your best choice. You might want to go with a trim that's a little lower and comes with a more street oriented tire and suspension setup... unless you and the wife like vacationing somewhere like North Carolina beaches where you can drive on the sand and you like surf fishing with the kids. Then a more offroad worthy trim is your thing. See, it all depends.
@@christopherbahena2641 One more tip... if you can't find the color you want on a lot, ask the sales manager what's coming in before the end of the year. That's how I bagged the Solar Octane Pro... it's still on it's way from Japan. I'll pick it up in a couple weeks when it lands in the states.
@@MyRCChannel-CJScott So have you got it?
Toyota you out did your built a awesome SUV love it so much love the color on it
Got my trd premium about a week ago in midnight black , very smooth and love it! Traded in my Jeep wrangler
Mine also came with trd wheels (black)
Where you able to negotiate since it's the end of the year?
@@lucyoch2491 mmm yea. I had to pay 500$ to wait for it to be shipped. But the 500 went towards the car payment
I recently traded my 2016 SR5 Premium for a 2023 TRD Off Road Premium, KDSS. Handles great in town and occasional trips to the cabin proves it's capability. . I got rid of the Dunlop HT Duellers and replaced them with AT Hercules tires. I am old school and love the basic tech on this truck.
How much you pay for it? And milage on it??
I would say get a TRD Off-Road/Premium if you wanna mod it eventually. I got one with the the TRD wheels and a few more options than this one for 49. Falken Wildpeak tires, TRD exhaust and Cali Raised off road sliders on the way. 200 miles in I love this thing in every way.
Once you go Pro, you can never go premium. For those who know, you know....... :) From a resale perspective, the TRD Pro will always win....
Hi Ben, I have this 4runner but in black. Could you advise how to turn the heat on in the back for the passengers.
KDSS, all you need to know when buying a TRD ORP.
Just got our new 23 trd off road premium lunar rock 4runner. Came with toyo all terrains, running boards, tint, all weather mats, and trd skid plate for 48k out the door. We are stoked!
48k out the door?? where at??
How did you get it at $48k out the door. I want to purchase one trd off road premium 2023 and they are telling me $51,500 out the door.
Do you think I can negotiate them down to $48k?
@@lucyoch2491was just made an offer of 46k on an ORP in CO.
@stevenhumphreyjr.6399 you offered $46k out the door?
very close to that. Offered even lower on a few since then. @@lucyoch2491
Have coming TRD ORP White with console safe off allocation yesterday. To arrive 10/10. Thank you for this video. Was the unit showing a 2023? Didn’t see the button for the heated steering wheel?
The heated steering wheel is Canada only models from what I understand
A couple of new ‘23 owners said it is there for USA
I think if you're gonna offroad dont buy the TRD pro. TRD ORP with $8k left for offroad mods will make a way better truck for offroading than a base trd pro.
Honestly, I was on the fence between the pro and the ORP.. I went with the ORP. First thing I did was upgrade the shocks/lift, threw some method wheels with 285’s, black out over lays, and a roof rack. I couldn’t be happier, and I don’t felt like I spent 8k on badges. No interest in a droning exhaust, Toyota wheels, or the stock roof rack for that matter. If you wanna upgrade the ORP is the way to go. Use your hard earned money on the upgrades you actually want, mechanically they are the same, fox shocks didn’t mean anything to me.
I have an ORP as well, but I love the proof roof rack. I'm going to order one of those.
I bet yours looks better than a Pro too.
Finally someone else who put black overlays on these TRD off road rims !!! I did that too. I got the overlays on Amazon and it completely made these rims look so much better !!!
Aren't you Mr. money pants
Just bought one!
Trd pro is still the best 4runner for resell. Long and short term wise.
I got the trd Pro because it was dope and had the JBL sound system when the trd Offroad didn’t
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I got the premium without the JBL and heard all these stories about how bad the audio was. Mine actually sounds really good.
@@brianrice1492 it's not bad it's just I prefer the actual bump from the sub woofer with my jbls lol it makes it seem like I'm at a concert or party when I play my music
Are you able to get the remote start and 360 camera as an option on the TRD Off road premium ?
My TRD ORP has the front and side camera features which you have to manually switch them to.
Good videos man but my feedback to you is to slow down when you talk and edit your videos. Thanks to the CZcams speed setting
What do you guys think about the TRD sport that one looks nice it's got the 20-inch wheels on it I don't go off-roading but I like the way those limited type of models feel on the road you know the Toyota 4Runner Limited but this is actually a TRD sport that I was looking at thought it was kind of cool
I have had the same FJ Cruiser since I was 16, and own my second 5th gen 4Runner (a 2022 TRD Off Road Premium).. Needless to say I love the 4.0 liter, the capability and the unmatched bulletproof reliability that this platform has offered, over the years!
I use my 4Runners as my offroad, overland expedition adventure vehicles, and have never had any breakdown of any type!
Does your premium have a centre-diff?
@@mohammeds5458 You mean center diff locker? No, 4Runner TRD models have rear locking diffs. I think only expensive vehicles like Benz G Class and Lexus LX have center diff lockers.
@@lunamaria1048
But your car is premium right?
@@lunamaria1048
Doesn't premium come with all time 4wd?
@@mohammeds5458 No, the TRD models have part time 4WD. The lower end 4Runner "Limited" trims have full time 4WD, like the Nightshade edition and the Limited can apparently lock the center diff. So you know, all 4WD vehicles have a center diff. They are considered open diffs, like front and rear diffs of all combustion powered cars, unless you have a diff lockers. Center locker splits power 50/50 to front and rear.
I will need to get a lift kit for a 285/70/17 in both cases right? What's the biggest tyre that will go on TRD Pro?
In Canada the off-road has more features than the US ORP. Standard dual zone, sunroof KDSS and MTM. In my opinion it is way better than the Pro. I switched out the grill, lifted the front 1”, blacked out everything and put pro rims on and I don’t have that stupid pro roof basket.
Next year I will put King suspension on with angled sliders and a bull bar and still be under the price of a pro and have a better vehicle.
I have an off-road premium myself, and I want the pro basket, it looks awesome!
Which grill kit did you use?
Ben, so im really thinking of buying the 2023 trd off road premium in the next week. How much do you think i can negotiate for out the door? Would 45k out the door be too little to offer? Or do they have room to go down that much?
Bought my 2020 TRD ORP 4x4 in September of 2020 while it was still on the transport boat from Japan. Had to wait 6 weeks for it, however the dealer LOVES a quick turnover. They have virtually no overhead in it, they get paid a base rate (commission) between $750-$1700 just to "flip" the vehicle anyway.
My sales guy had taken my want/must have list and was trying to transfer one in but found this one as an allotment to them and called me (I suspect he ordered it knowing it would sell quickly regardless).
TRD ORP Suspension package (Bilstien 5100 not Fox), Sunroof/Moonroof, All Crawl Controls etc, 4x4 manual shifter, TRD Venture Gunmetal gray alloy wheels, TRD PRO Black Chrome performance exhaust, TRD Off Road interior, Dash cam system, Badging blacked out, TRD Pro skid plates, Predator Step Bars, Premium sound system and......TRD (not PRO) all weather mats throughout. ALL FACTORY INSTALLED OPTIONED. I did not set out to "clone" a PRO, I wanted the Factory Options available built to my liking.
The differences: NO KDSS by choice (not on PRO anyway saved $2700), Pro Front grille (don't care but $379), separate HVAC controls(don't care), remote start(that I can add $879), roof rack(don't care $439), lift/level kit(eh retrospect should have $1200), and off road aggressive tires(buy my own $???), front terrain camera(undecided but can if I want ???).
The TRD PRO I was looking at MSRP'd at $54,748 and he could not even talk about negotiating. My build TRD ORP MSRP'd at $48,178 and I am a confidant buyer because I was a Cash Buyer and WILLING TO WAIT. No financing, no issues, no problems, quick and smooth transaction. Don't forget to factor in Tag/Tax/Title which you are going to have to pay for anyway in your chosen State.....(mine was about $2700=$46,200 total ouch haha).
Why pay for a suspension though if you are going to build your own and "toss" or have to sell the Fox factory stuff away right? And the KDSS is VERY limiting to upgrades hence the delete button on that.
$3500 later I have a Full LED package inside and out, Readylift 3/2 lift and level kit with diff drop (Dealer installed), and K02's @ 285/75/R17 (all 5, Dealer installed) and can crawl anywhere a PRO can (while saving $6K-ish).
Morale of the story: Do your own research, research, research on wants/must haves, deal with a larger dealership (Regional), always deal with the same salesperson (they are investing THEIR time in YOU as well so they deserve the sale!!!!!), be willing to wait walk away or find another salesperson if you feel they are too carsalesmanyish(yeah I made that up = pushy), and have your OWN "financing" set up WAY before you start getting serious cash financing bank or whatever. Haggled a good bit (and reminded them that I saw they had sold one very nearly identical a week earlier for $43,100 because that one was why I called initially but it had a deposit already) and they came down to $44,700 on a Tuesday night, told them $43,500 was my final price. Said they just could not do that so I politely thanked him and said I would keep looking and call me if he found the "next" right one. Wednesday morning at 10:00 AM got a text saying that if I was serious, then they wanted my business at MY PRICE!
Do not be afraid to ask, however DO be prepared and confident.
I'm driving mine everyday and still love it.....and remember that it is their job......TO SELL CARS haha! They are NOT losing money.....just not making as much as they WANT off of ME(YOU)!
Sorry know this is a long read, just hope this helps some folks.......your experience may vary just advice from mine.....Happy Trails!
At one point I thought you said it had an eight track. Now that would show a reluctance to change the design!
Wow ORP 23 didn’t come with surround camera’s? My 22 OR non premium did.😅 glad i pulled that trigger in 22
What model has the heated steering wheel? Saw it in another video.
So the front passenger doesn't get a cup holder, or did I miss it ???
How does this not have the front cam and the sr5 prem did? Is it available at least? Thx
Hey Ben, you are reviewing the 4Ruuner and there people started uploading 2023 RX series first driver videos...
I’ll review one when I can
There should be a box under the driver and passenger set so you don't feel like you are sitting on the floor.
Naw, assuming you didnt pay a markup on your TRD Pro, you’ll be able to sell it for over MSRP when your wife’s new vehicle comes in. Cool color on this one though
Absolute beauty!!! How come it doesn't come with the push button climate control's and just the knob? I thought that was standard
I think the other issue with deciding between the Pro and Premium is warranty. If you buy a Premium and mod it yourself with a lift, shocks and tires will Toyota still warranty it? If not then some might opt for the Pro, has the popular mods but factory warranty.
You can add aftermarket parts and still maintain a factory warranty. Toyota would have to prove that the aftermarket parts were the cause of the problem to void the warranty. If just installing aftermarket parts voided factory warranties, the aftermarket part market probably wouldn't exist. There is more to it than that, but just installing aftermarket parts does not void the factory warranty, no matter what anyone tells you.
It is a good choice to get the ORP model. But I still went with TRD PRO 2023. Because I can.
do you accept factory order for 2023 4runner?
It's insane that a used 2020 TRD Premium will go for $46,000 and a new 2024 TRD Premium you can get for $49,000 at MSRP.
Maybe I misunderstood, however the TRD Off Road is as capable or more so (if you get the KDSS system) with regards to regular slow speed off-roading. The Pro has great shocks for higher speed desert driving (think BAJA 500) when compared with the Off Road. The real difference between the two are aesthetic and convenience offerings (Wheels, Roof Rack, Auto HVAC, and Auto Headlights and maybe better initial dealer offered tires). Other than that, both offer the same 4x4 system with locking rear diff, Crawl Control, Multi Terrain Select, and the best of all ATRAC. So if you want a Go-To-The-Mall daily driver, the SR5 Premium or the Limited are awesome options.
When I purchased my 22 TRD orp I had in mind I wanted that particular model and trim. Not to convert it to a trd pro. It just does not make any sense
Would do a body lift and add a front bash plate plus upgrade exhaust
Do you have to manually turn on and off the headlights on this TRD off road premium package, or are they automatic?
Manually, from what I’ve seen in a few videos.
@@Campos2011 That's crazy for a premium package. Thanks
I have a 2022 trd orp with front/360 cam but 2023 don’t?🤔
Is that the same engine that’s in my ‘12 FJ Cruiser?
Can you put a 3rd row in the TRD?
Since everyone seems well versed here and I have finally put the pro idea to rest…what do you think I could do for a great price on this one? I would change tires black out that chrome eyesore in front get the roof rack and all weather mats. Not sure if best to do after purchase or work it in?
A video where Ben is not in the snow. 😂
What’s the difference in off road premium, and off road??
Wish more of them came with the sliding cargo deck.
It’s pretty sweet.
@@brianrice1492 Gives a flatter cargo area when the seats are down too.
I'll be getting my ORP in lunar rock mid April! Just got the call from my toyota salesperson this past weekend. I put in my deposit and wishlist (toyota does not currently build these to specific orders) in March 2022.
How much did you pay relative to sticker?
@sebastian romero I'll be paying exactly MSRP based on the online build and price, my dealer doesn't do commission so no funny price games. Plus tax, title, and dealer document fee (up to $125). It's still in transit so I still have about a month til I actually have the vehicle.
@@torikorn4956 awesome to hear. Were you able to block the bloatware Toyota likes to load them up with before it got to port?
@@sebastianromero420 not sure what you mean by bloatware? Can you elaborate?
@@torikorn4956 it’s my way of saying the options that the dealer claims Toyota put on them by default (to make some extra money).
im not going trail riding but ill need to drive off road every few months. i feel like this is a better option for me than the pro
Love the lunar rock but hate the chrome yuck black that out! Lol
Does the non premium trd off road also have the rear vents and usb chargers??
Oh, ok.
Just got my off road premium last week I’m loving it 🤘🏼🤘🏼 mines don’t have a sunroof tho 🤔
You must not be in the northeast.
Does this come with remote start?
Love the SUV is there an option a for a rear cam with trajectory? A 23k subaru has a better cam and has trajectory. Why is so outdated when it comes down to cams? Weird.
Is the ORP the only trim with leather seats? I plan to install my own suspension and build but rather have leather seats
SoftTex seating
No, there are several trim levels that have the Soft Tex material.
Always gotta take Doug Demuros videos with a grain of salt. For the average joe that doesn't want all yhe features that will eventually break, this vehicles is perfect.
please do review for trd of road
Is this a Canadian model with the manual shifting 4WD? I believe the US version is an electronic knob.
Trd off-road seem to have manual shifter knob. The sport has electric switch
I wish Premium would offer dual zone/ auto climate and JBL. But what you'd going to do. 🤷♂️
How much is reasonable price for the TRD Off-Road Premium 2023?
50-53k USD plus tax and license
@ cryingorc2337 I believe your right at least her in Tx
Yeah, you should have got that over your TRD Pro.
Doesn't the Pro have remote starting?
TRD ORP with KDSS is a better car than the pro
Do they have apple play
I own a 2019 4runner ORP. it came with the Xseries package which makes it look identical to the pro for thousands less. I also own a 22 jeep rubicon with the xtreme recon package. I'll tell you, off road, the 4runner is as good or better other than the lack of clearance compared to the jeep on 35's from the factory. the pro is a total waste of money.
What does the non-JBL sound system sound like in a 4Runner?
I have one and it sounds great.
I wanted to love this, but the headroom in the back is very low. My passengers were hitting their heads constantly. Especially when leaning forward with a run roof model. They were all shorter people. What gives?
Why is it assumed that all purchasers of the TRD Off Road want to modify it to look like a TRD Pro?
No remote start for the price of this trim is robbery.
Remote start on Toyota and Lexus are worthless anyway. The vehicles automatically shut off once you open the door.
You could have been good with an SR5 premium to be honest.
Does the 2023 trd pro have heated steering wheel ?
Yes. The ORP also has packages that include the heated steering wheel
Do they come with third row seats?
Yeah but it is not comfortable in the slightest
Why do people hate the Crome badging now of days. It just feels like people want an excuse to modify literally everything lol
I’m really surprised these still have mechanical transfer case selector. My 2006 Tacoma has a knob on the dash. Waste of space if you ask me. Could have more center console storage
they found it to be more robust, its one less sensor to fail. you also know its engaged.
trd off road has bilstein shocks
The off road is better . You get to have kdss which makes onorad perforamce much better. Reducing body roll drastically and making it a better handiling truck. If u want off road oerformance the stock trd pro shocks arent drastically more advantageous over the trd premium. Your better off wirh quality off road shocks installed 😊
Now is like $20k difference...so with $10k you can change suspension and wheels and still have money to enjoy life...
What about the speakers sound lol
I would buy the SR5 and put on the TRD wheels
big difference is that the trd offroad has kdss suspension
KDSS is a Factory option it is NOT standard equipped. The PRO Fox suspension $4K price tag which IS standard equipped. Got my TRD ORP 4x4 without KDSS because it is VERY limiting in upgrading the suspension. Anyway, it is like a $2K+ option that is worthless if you start modding your own suspension.
For exam-pler