Battle of the TRD’s! 2020 4Runner face-off
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- In this video I compare two of the most desirable trims of the 2020 Toyota 4Runner, the TRD pro and the TRD off-road premium. Although they are very similar, I think there is a clear winner!
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I have seen many comparison videos for 4Runners, especially these two variants. But I thought by far you have done a better job than others on pointing out certain features that I had not seen in other videos. Thanks for educating the viewers and Keep it up.
Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for thank you!
I was really hoping for an actual off-road comparison between the two....
great video dude! keep up the good work
Very nice job! I have a 2016 Pro and test drive the 2021 Pro. Subwoofer was amazing and so was the Fox suspension. Great vehicles
Test drove, not drive
Unbelievable
Best comparison vid that I’ve seen. 👍
Great content!
Too much time spent talking about cosmetic differences and not enough time talking about the functional differences.
Nice review.
2019 TRD Off road premiere,285/70/17 King 2.5 front and back! I paid 38k for the truck and around 8k for everything else. 👍
Great sound quality on this video
You liked it?
Definitely off road. Not gonna pay extra 8k-10k for special color, and name badge when the whole purpose of these is taking them off road where stock parts are gonna get swapped out for aftermarket parts.
You are spot on about that, man! Pro is for people who will change nothing later. But who doesn't when they buy an offroad vehicle anyway, right? We got the TRD Offroad Premium 2020 after 2 years of research, test-driving, and a well contemplated financial plan which came in hand during the pandemic sales.
Because your cheap and can not afford a TRD PRO ,,simple if you could you would .
@@CP-kb1du only thing pro is good for is resales value.
@@CP-kb1du no need to fire shots like that broski. You prob take the bus anyway.
@@CP-kb1du facts lmao you can always tell when people can’t afford the pro lol they get super bitter and bash it. The fact is they just broke and mad they can’t get one
The different between the pro and off road is that the Fox shocks you can upgrade anytime but the KDSS system you will never able to add to your suspension
What are you talking about? There are tons of kdss 4runners with modified suspensions. Just look on Facebook 4runner groups.
@@Andrewoval I think he is saying that you can upgrade to fox shocks at anytime, but your never adding kdss to your pro. +1 trdor
Absolutely right, and the KDSS is an off-road feature Toyota has used in the land cruiser and other Lexus models for years. It makes a huge difference in daily driving.
Lol, KDSS is the first thing that gets scrapped as soon as someone wants to explore more than casual off roading. The Fox suspension is far superior on anything moderate or more. I suggest people stop believing the incorrect comments on CZcams and go to vehicle specific forums where off road enthusiasts and overlanders can provide actual real world facts. It seems everyone has a keyboard and loves to use it weather they are right or wrong.
Fun fact. TRD pro models always sell for above MSRP.
I'm getting one in august at MSRP
good job !! nice comparison !!
Did you miss that the premium does not have crawl control?
Just bought a ORP, it does have crawl control👍
Well reported young man!
I concur, TRD pro is the smarter choice.
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Interesting. Just bought the off road premium in Canada and it comes with those options here - climate control, auto headlights kdss, sunroof, remote start etc
It's strange that some of these 4Runners have such a different "option sets" between US and Canada. Not sure why they do that...
Wierd since they are built in the same place.
Yep the Canadian option is the best I’ve seen. Even has the side blinking mirrors on the PRO. Always wondered how/why the US version doesn’t
Off road is better than Pro because only it has KDSS
Exactly the same for me : my off road is full equiped like the pro, except for the fox suspension and the JBL (and the wheel for sure)
If I have the money idc how expensive the 6th gen is, for this thing, I’m a buyer, ideky I’m just absolutely in love w these vehicles
In my humble opinion, that roof basket 🧺 looks weird. Go with the TRD off road premium. Yes you’re missing out on the 15 speaker 🔈 premium JBL sound and the Fox 🦊 shocks. If you can find a TRD Pro for MSRP, you’re getting a great deal…which most likely you won’t.
Regardless what dampers and springs are used, I'd never want to be without KDSS. Deleting FDSS on the Pro was just a cost savings to try and get back some of the money spent on the Fox dampers. I bet that Pro has a lot less real world flex off road, but likely superior performance at higher speed offroad.
KDSS is extremely overrated. Just another part to break. Or fix. Especially if you want to do a lot of aftermarket stuff or upgrades. Not everybody knows how to work around the KDSS system. Not to mention all the other adjustments you have to do to your truck just so that everything wears out evenly.
Especially if you're going to off-road KDSS limits articulation.
But if you're just going to the market KDSS is perfect
On the Pro, the radio has a JBL logo, so the sub woofer is not the only place in the vehicle that has the letters JBL.
He didn't say that, he said it was the only indicator the the truck has the premium JBL audio system.
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The Stereo is badged as JBL too. Not just the Subwoofer.
I love my 2021 pro! Just uploaded a video on how it handles off road with the new tuned Fox shocks. If you are thinking about getting one DO IT!!
No. I have a 2020 ORP KDSS with stage 2 icons 3" lift, sliders, bmc, -38 offset scs wheels on 305 open country at3 with spare. Any offroader will change out the pro's suspension straight away.
@@inyermouthbaybeh Disagree
Hey Cody I'm looking into getting a 2019 Pro how do the Fox Shocks handle just day to day driving I live in Maine and we have potholes the size of artillery round impacts I'm going to be keeping it completely stock so would the Fox Shocks do okay?
@@itsyaboimat2393 they do great, it’s an amazing daily driver and it does really well on rough road and rough off-roading Terrain. If you can drive one first give it a try and see how you like it!
The TRD Pro isn't 2" higher is it?
Excellent comparison. So much for those arguments that the TRD Off-Road is a better deal than the TRD Pro. Yes, it costs a lot less because it has a lot less. Of course, if you don't need/desire all of the TRD Pro extras, then buy the Off-Road. It's your money. Thank you.
It is a better deal. You can buy an TRD off road and make it more capable than a Pro for less money and it will be exactly how you want it to be.
Pro is only a better deal if you are planning no mods whatsoever, KDSS is a huge upgrade to daily driving, cornering, body-roll, even on gravel roads it dampens the roughness. And unless you are adding 3” lift to fri t and rear it makes the wheels articulate more than a stock setup.
@@matthewjohnson863 Yup. Not touching my 4R TRD Pro suspension. It suits all my overlanding needs.
@@matthewjohnson863 the pro is only a better deal if you can avoid mark-up. In my part of the country they get marked up $5-10k depending on dealer. That just rules it out completely IMO.
If I could only get the off-road I’d buy a wrangler instead. It’d be the pro or nothing for me at least.
People crying about the resale. Both models hold there value.
People are losing their minds lol.
I do wholesale for a living with cars, and the pro is way better for resale by far literally! Before COVID it brought close to msrp, ex: say 30k mile two year old pro. And currently it’s bringing 7-9k over msrp at auction FYI.... while off road package is bringing currently 5-7k less than msrp with similar example given...
@@702probro9 like I said, they both hold there resale.
@@mtfishingwizard yes, but I’d rather go with pro it appreciated lmao that’s awesome! Before COVID off road pack where 10k back of msrp easily now there like i said 5-7k back of msrp! But hey both options are great and meet different needs 🤘
You can always tell when someone couldn’t afford the pro lmao
Brah. TRDP is not $3-$4k more. It’s more like between $7k-$10k. And you are not factoring the markups. Please stop being one of those wanna be automotive reviewers that only recommend the most expensive one. It’s nice, but not $10k nice.
Much of these CZcams reviewers only do this to get free stuff. Very rarely do I ever see a real review between two vehicles. “ this vehicle has a locker., this other vehicle has a locker too, and so does this third vehicle. They have lockers!!! oh look, this one has a skid plate. This one doesn’t”. Hey hey, thanks for the comparison master of the obvious. Lmao
@@Jamesthorcouldn't of said it better myself brother. All for the clicks. Theres a another guy named Hardy that did the same thing calling out the non Pro drivers wannabes.
I don’t know where this guy was shopping for those two. When I bought my off-road premium new in 2018 the PRO was almost 12K more.
save yourself 10K and go with the off road premium. thats what I bought. Mines fully loaded, I can add a better suspension for a lot less than the pro costs. Those tires on the pro suck as well. I like the OR rims that come with it better. Already put better A/Ts on. Got the black out emblems. Just not worth all that extra money for the Pro unless you just want to say you have a Pro.
I have a 2020 PRO and one reason I got it, wasn't so I could say"I have a pro". It's because my resale value will be WAY better then your trail. GL.
I decided to go with the PRO. I have no plans to upgrade the already excellent suspension. The little convenience features that you can only get in the PRO plus the resale value (look up and see how much a used PRO costs) easily made the PRO worth it for me. It is easily the better buy if you are like me and have no plans to turn the rig into a dedicated off-road monster.
@@ezraalbin3252 It's funny how everybody praises the reliability of the 4Runner and how it will last for hundred of thousands of miles then turn around and brag about the high resale value. You guys gonna keep your rigs or plan to sell them for a lesser loss? This is a bit contradictory because if you buy it for its reliability it makes sense to want to keep it for 10+ years. So because you won't sell it, all the higher resale value doesn't matter except to brush the owner's ego. And btw, Trail is the base version of the 4Runner as opposed to the OR which is right under the Pro.
@@seabiscuit726142 You are correct. Very reliable trucks, that last for years and if you are on a budget = You get your money's worth - on any trim level -. If 6th gen (PRO) turns out to be a head turner.. I will trade/$ell my 2020 5th gen PRO and will get more $ value then ANY other trim level 4runner regardless of all your upgrades. Numbers don't lie. Have a great day.
@@ezraalbin3252 will you? Or will you just get back the extra money you spent 5 years later? And for the money you guys want for your pros anybody would just rather get a new one for the same price lol
please get a mic and it will make the watching experience better to us viewers
KDSS is and option. Not standard on the Off Road Premium.
Please tell me where I could get a PRO 3-4K above TRD ORP!
I know right lol; you have to do a nationwide search and be patient
7k more than ORP. I had to go double check because I just ordered ORP. 43k for ORP vs 50k+ for TRD Pro. Honestly I went with ORP because I dont have to deal with KDSS when lifting couple of inches up. No need for anything fancy when going offroading ...
@@egenesis1 sounds like you just can’t afford the pro lmao
@@egenesis1 yes, unlocking the sway bar is oolala, way too fancy. So fancy, many Jeeps do have it, but not such a smart system as KDSS but same functionality !
@@yourlame9795 sounds like you cannot afford your own cpu upgrade from Cromagnon to Sapiens to understand.
The skid plate alone is worth it
Hey man, tell Toyota and their sales department that NOBODY gives a eff about the color of the TRD or Toyota badge... we care about functional hood scoops, maximum accessories for the price we pay for TRD PRO
Up charge for black plastic over painted plastic…makes financial sense. 😂
I think you are selling the KDSS system short. That combined with good suspension is going to be better than Fox Suspension.
That's true only if you are a mall crawler who ocasionally drives down a mild State forest road. Anything that's even moderate and real off roader know the KDSS is the first hinderance that must be thrown away. The Fox suspension system on the Pro is very good but you can save money getting the TRD offroad and instally your own suspension system.There are those that know and there are folks like you.
@@victoryengineer well not everyone spends 50k for a rock crawler dumb dumb.
forgot to mention the red stitching and the trd logo on the seats and the trd shift knob for the pro .. but good video
Off road premium has those.
I was trying to focus on the differences between these two trims, and since they both have these I decided not to mention it. Glad you enjoyed the video!
The off road premium has em’
My ORP has them
My Trd off-road did not have kdss which made it easier to put a mild lift kit.
I just did my KDSS equipped ‘16 Trail lift and it was a breeze. Not sure what you mean by easier, seems just as easy to me.
@@UintaDave they try to find every excuse they can to make it seem like the off-road is better bro lol I find most 4Runner owners are bitter that they couldn’t afford the pro lol
@@yourlame9795 For sure, I see that everywhere. 4Runner owners are the same way with KDSS, those with it love it, those without resent it. TRD Pro is an awesome platform but all the extras can be found elsewhere and real users will rip off the fox suspension they charge a premium for.
You need to sort out your sound. Soft then loud then soft and non stop wind noise
The TRD PRO also has remote start standard.
And the Limited
If your going to leave it alone, get a PRO. If your like me and know your going to mod and change most of it anyway, the off road is the way to go. I will change almost everything that comes with the pro package so no point in the extra cost.
Definitely the pro in the special offered color for that year, no contest.
Pro please
You literally have my car there the red one
Lol it's wheels, tires, shock, some plastic decor. That's it $10k difference.. get a TRD then up grade the differences for about $5k u will have a better than a pro plus some and save $5k
TRD ORP with KDSS + TRD rims will come dangerously close in price to the TRD Pro. I would rather buy the Pro for stronger resale value.
Depends ( to me) how long one is planning on keeping it. I am looking right now.. leaning towards the premium because I keep a vehicle ten years at least and geez I dont want to think about the cost of replacing those fox shocks or that special exhaust, ect. I actually think the KDSS drives nicer on the hiway. I guess thats all subjective to what one likes though. So not etched in stone either way : -) I agree on the price thing initially.
Is it true that you can’t modify the pro as much as the premium?
The pro also has better aesthetics, remote start, better sound system, and better rack. Those things are not important to some but I'll pay more to get away from the ugly silver accents and have the better factory options. KDSS is nice for the road but really not meant for off-road. It limits flex, droop, travel, and ability to upgrade to better shocks. Also isn't cheap to fix if it breaks.
@@ShogunateDaimyo lmao are you serious bud?
@@Pabloperes675 yes.
I’ll take the off road any day
Yeah most people who can’t afford the pro say that lol
@@yourlame9795 no, it is that the value of KDSS is too brainy for the people who buy the Pro. So when Cromagnon you go pro. When Sapiens then go ORP with KDSS, KDSS switch and money left to upgrade the suspension.
All the rest can be bought to make it a pro.
I would not call this a faceoff, maybe a comparison, but zero capability differences were highlighted. Good job with the comparisons.. The KDSS equipped TRD Off Road actually has better highway and dirt road manners that the TRD Pro. But it comes at a costfor vulnerability.
Lol, that's only true for the casual two tracker. As soon as someone wants to do moderate or greater trails the first thing that has to go is the KDSS. The Pro with Fox suspension is far superior for the latter. Google is your friend ;)
My 4Runner TRD Off Road has KDSS, making it MUCH better than the Pro, in my opinion.. My husband just sold his Pro, so I have driven both lol
no auto headlights is hard to believe...
The 2021 trd off road premium has auto high beam headlights
My dads old 1999 Suzuki vitara base had auto headlights. hard to believe Toyota doesn’t have them as standard equipment in this day and age!
@@dehoyosrudolph8885 my old 2000 toyota celica gt came with auto headlights.
TRDOR wins because of KDSS option
TRDPRO wins because of color and resale
KDSS is an option. you can get it without this. And then add Bilstein 5100 for the leveling.
@@g.fortin3228 I updated saying KDSS as an option. I’ve had both and having KDSS is far better than not
@@everydaybettereverydaystronger I do agree with this as a daily driver and for on-road. But if one wants to correct the front end being lower and level it, swapping in four Bilstein 5100's can be a very nice thing and save money over KDSS, still get nice handling. And the repair cost of the KDSS system down the road when the system has issues might also be a factor. Lexus has used it for years, most are good, but when they failed it was quite pricey. Just the same, it's good for folks to realize they can get a 4Runner with or without the KDSS, so they can research it and make up their own mind either way. I do agree on-road handling is impressive with it.
@@g.fortin3228 that is the conclusion I came to after researching as well. It's good for road driving but not great for off roading as it limits droop, travel, flex, and ability to upgrade suspension plus the potential cost for repair if it fails. What i decided is not to make it a factor in vehicle purchase because it's fine either way.
@@ShogunateDaimyo Yes indeed. I researched repair costs too. Not frequent but not uncommon, the module repair and setting it up after repair usually has to be done at a lexus dealer because a lot of Toyota dealers dont have the special tools. Lexus had sold more vehicle numbers with it and are equipped but expensive. I have not purchased my 4runner yet.. hopefully by end of summer. So watching the trends meanwhile. No KDSS in my future. I'll replace the stock shocks with Bilsteins.
I am confused TRD off road vs TRD PRO. so the Pro has tires and front bumper and fox suspension and the badges for 10k more I dont think i want to pay that. maybe for the tacoma trd pro i would i was in the market for a rav4 xse or limited but the 4runner is calling me i think more i wanted the rav4 to save gas buy them hybred suck at towing and offroading im not doing crazy off road just camping and light off roading i dont want to mess up my car its going to be my first new car. i wish they would redesign the 4runner its outdate like a MF
KDSS
KDSS=Mall Crawler
KDSS is an option on both vehicles
Buy the ORP and put the money saved toward a supercharger.
First it’s the 4Runner vs other off roaders. Today, it’s TRD Pro fanboys vs other 4Runner owners.
Or the TRD fan boys vs the broke boys who couldn’t afford one lmao you sound like a bitter child, it’s not TRD pro owners faults that your broke.
Needs more wind noise
Not all Offroad’s have kdss….
Another thing missing is remote start on Pro vs ORP.
remote start $275
Skid plate - $275
fox shocks take offs - $800
trd pro wheels take offs - $800
Theres your 80% Pro from factory bolt ons. Im sure you can even find the Pro exhaust for cheap.