3 times??????? It will last a lot longer than that...... and the defender is breaking down during your adventure anyways... better be close to town with that one.
Great video. The 4Runner has a low hanging gas tank that hinders it off road. I had a ‘17 SR5 with only Atrac and it went everywhere with upgraded tires (BFG AT’s) stock size and no lift. You have to pick your lines a little more carefully but the tire tread makes all the difference. it’s just such a great overall vehicle. I’m buying another one and am thinking about the pro with this color. My SR5 had 100k miles with only oil changes and a door lock regulator replacement. Sold it for 4k less than I bought it for at 6 years old.
Man that's great to hear! That's the thing about the 4runners, they are so reliable and have such a good name around them that if you take care of it mechanically and aesthetically you're not going to lose much of you bought at a decent price! I know that this 4runner would benefit with some bigger tires. I'm curious to see if the next generation 4runner will be able to take a bigger wheel set without rubbing? Also, thanks for watching OldRush!
I watch TONS of automotive CZcams channels whenever I’m doing my research on buying a new car/truck/SUV but I must say, your relaxed, conversational style is fantastic. New subscriber here! Thanks for the detailed information. Just placed my deposit on a 2024 4Runner TRD Pro today! In “Icecap” Arctic white. Can’t wait!
Jeffrey, thanks for being here and taking the time to subscribe! It really does mean a lot to have your support. Super congrats on your deposit on the '24 model! I can't wait to see one one the road! Happy Holidays! Cheers!
Thanks Diego.... I'm going to have another Defender and an 4Runner back on the channel at the same time! That's going to be interesting! Thanks for watching!
You're right on that. But, if you look closely you can see that it's bottoming out a bit. I've got another 4runner that's going to come do this test again. This time I'll make sure it's really dry! Good eye though! Thanks for watching!
I love that it has a TIMING CHAIN-- and the serpentine belt only runs accessories... so if it goes bad- your engine stays good!!! GREAT VIDEO-- thanks..
If the land rover defender could possibly stay reliable and not break down on the trails maybe it could be a viable option even with the high price. No way would I pick a land rover defender over a 4runner TRD PRO...it a no brainer
I know.. sucks. You would think that Land Rover would recognize that they don't have a good name to their reliability and do something about that.... Maybe one day. Toyota for now!
Nice to see your videos; hey I find that in order to get objective/apples to apples comparison doing a slip test on rollers for each vehicle with all their different 4wd options works better. That removes the differences that can be introduced by different factors like wet soil, driver's input for approach, etc. If you can make a video doing roller based slip test for both 4runner trd pro and defender, that would be awesome,
I can agree with you. Seen it myself too. We're going to have another 4runner on the channel and redo the test in better conditions. One things for sure... the Toyota isn't going to leave you stranded
Dumb questions but 1 do they have the aux plug in for ipods? Also do all trd have sunroofs? Living here in WA state we have too much rain for that. Im in the market for the trd off road in metallic grey.
Not dumb at all! 1. Yes for the AUX 2. TRD comes with Sunroofs I can tell you that there is no issues with the Sunroofs on these. If you get one with one you're going to like it when the day is good for it! Thanks for watching! Let me know if you have any more questions. Just make sure you @ me or I won't get the notification.
Did you have ATRAC enabled during the second hill climb? It didn’t look like the brakes were grabbing the spinning wheel. As I’m sure you probably know, when you put the 4Runner in low-range, all of the traction control is disabled unless the ATRAC button is pressed.
I did, and I noticed that myself. I was able to hear the A-trac activating through the ABS module. We're going to do a second test with another TRD and this time I'll record everything that I do in the cabin. But I am going to say that the first test wasn't with A-trac. Only locked rear diff. Thanks for watching Pat!
@@reviewedbytim thanks for the info! I’m surprised the ATRAC wasn’t more aggressive. And it is an unmistakable sound - kind of like sneakers in a dryer. Love the quick reviews and comparisons!
Yes, but I believe that the main factor was the 4runner bottoming out. But to be fair, I am planning to retest soon.. as soon as it dries up over here!
I much prefer the LEVER for changing 4x4 too.. I HATE when they put knobs for chaning gears.. makes it feel STUPID and cheap..The ONLY thing I don't like is the MPGs... BUT, can't have everything!! :) (and it's not THAT bad-- my old car only gets about 20 and it's little).. AGREED- the slide out tray is GENIUS!!
You're right about the lever > knobs. It's a much better feel and you know it's going to last longer over the year. Toyota is still super reliable and even the older 4runners have knobs and the actuators never really go out. But still... we like levers! lol
I don't like the fake hood air intake either. Interesting to note however, is that many car manufacturers now use fake hood intakes (GMC, Chevy and many others).
Yeah the manufacturers know that people generally like the way it looks. Only people that are more "car enthusiast" know that it's supposed to be functional. So it bugs us when it's not....
I think with that expense--- i'd have the MILItARY GRADE rust protector put on OVER that normal stuff... THIS is one that wouldn't even need mods... it's GOOD ENOUGH.
You're right about that! These cars are way too expensive to say that rust could be a problem down the road. Toyotas have always had a rust issue and it's completely preventive.
Sold their soul to Panasonic when it is still assembled in Japan. Panasonic is still huge there. I mean it’s written on Sapporo tower and ever light on Tokyo tower is a Panasonic. The trd pro runner is assembled in Japan. I only knew this before seeing the door when I bought mine and it was still boarding a ship in Japan. I did notice you didn’t fully utilize the 4wd on this. That may have balanced out a bit better on that hill climb. No dif lock and mts would have gone way better. A single locker is good for brute force but there is a computer there. All be it a revised decade old computer. Bags are cool, and expensive when they fail. As all three of my LC have. Like an Alpha, you buy them to fix them.
Ahhh... we will have another TRD one the channel soon the off-road challenge. The ground was a bit soft as well. I really appreciate your input and will save this comment for the next TRD off-road test. Cheers!
Hmmm interesting. 4runner had a wet surface almost muddy and the land rover was on dry surface, could that be it? Would nice to see both on similar surfaces.
You're right about that.. But I think the reason the 4runner "struggled" was because it was bottoming out... I have a lifted one on the way to compare to! Just to make sure!
@@reviewedbytim The clearance very much could be an issue but the biggest issue is you didn't have the equivalent features turned on with the 4runner it seems. When you put the Defender into off-road it automatically turns on a bunch of off-road features. With the 4runner most of those features you have turn on yourself. Good example is at 12:42 when the Defender pulls up on the hill, you can hear the clear sound of the traction control system popping. Also the lack of wheel spin with the Defender shows the traction control was working as that's what it does. To get a more equivalent setup for the 4runner at the very least, turn on the Multi-Terrain Select to Mud and Sand. That can be run in 4Hi as long as you stay under 7 mph I think it is. If you want to get the 4runner closer to what the Defender had set then you should use the crawl control. It will control all 4 wheels independently similar to what was going on with the Defender. Including the popping heard from the Defender but MUCH louder lol.
YES -- i LOVE this look-- I did NOT like the new 2024 versions-- they're trying to get too freakin fancy. Are those back windows FACTORY TINTED?? In VA, they're very strict on that and might want it removed... UNLESS IT"S FACTORY- and they can't legally force it in that case.
Good review especially comparing between defender and 4runner 4runner trd off-road with fox shock absorbers and all terrain tyres and smaller rims and need to climb the hill 2 to 3 times while the defender did it at the first try. The defender has a bigger rims, normal tyres and unfancy shocks. Yes it is more expensive and using air suspension. My opinion trd segment is useless and just a fancy segment only fit for north american market. No need for fancy shocks because normal suspensions are capable to do the work you'll not using it like rally dakar cars . I think the gx can do it better than the 4runner
Great analysis Mohammed! I have a GX coming to the channel that I'll test. And, I do agree with you. I'm sure the GX is going to impress! Thanks for watching!
Notice how much slipperier that clay was when you tested the 4Runner. Land Rover had dry conditions. Toyota will outlast Land Rover and be reliable doing it.
Bro, the issue wasn’t the lift on the 4Runner. Rather, the surface during your test of the Land Rover was noticeably dryer than was the case during your test of the 4Runner. Kindly watch your footages again… Goodluck!
I can agree with you that the conditions made a slight difference. To me the main factor was the truck bottoming out (you can kind of see it in the video). For example.. There are two different hills that I climbed in that video. The first hill is where we saw the struggle. The second part of that hill is noticeable steeper but the wheelbase of the 4runner benefits from it... so it went up it without spinning too much. The first hill wasn't good for that specific wheelbase even though it was short (causing it to bottom out). I'll bring another one out on a dry day to test again! Just to be sure! Thanks for watching by the way!
NO-- just get the grapplers off and put some BETTER tires on.. I think it did BETTER than the landrover-- and the landrover was CLOSE to being overbalanced to its Tipping point- the 4runner wasn't... much SAFER..
You're right.... We need a tire change! We'll redo the test... there's several folks in the comments that are request a redo anyways! Tires would definitely make a difference! Thanks for all your enthusiasm David! I loved all your comments! Happy Holidays!
You can see that all 4 tires was pulling. The problem be seen that it's the clearance and the tires. Ground a bit soft too. We will have another one on the channel for another try. Going to bring a lifted model too! Thanks for watching!
You picked equally bad lines in both vehicles. If you take that hill head on or at a less agressive side angle both vehicles would go up just fine and it would not be a good test of off road capability.
Fair point. That's a factor but I think the 4runner was bottoming out. You can see it in the thumbnail. But, I'm going to have another TRD give another run! Good eye yourself! And, thanks or watching!
Bro you're 100%. The defender drives like it should (100k car). But I would still take the 4runner in the long run. Plus I found out that you can't tow a Defender. It's nearly impossible.
Just by looking at the wheel spinning. You didn’t use rear differential (Locker) and not even A-Track. I get that you love flashy cars just because they’re painted gold or very expensive (Defender) but, you should be honest on the reviews. The defender does not have the wheelbase the 4Runner offers and the lifting gadget is nothing but a corky trick. That’s why you will never see a Defender go against a Rubicon, Bronco or 4runner on the field. Stick with flashiness buddy.
Chilll.......I had them both turned on.. you can see the rear diff locked from the rear tire view. The reasons people don't bring defenders off-road are because... 1. They're 100k. 2. They're really expensive if they break. 3. They will break. 4. You can't really tow them. They're extremely capable but not the best for real world situations. Also, I daily a land cruiser so I'm not sure what you mean "stick with flashy".
Hey, you gotta be kidding, right? Didn't see you use the lockers or MTS with A-track, which are game changers off-road. That 4Runner articulation is serious business, man. Try more off-roading with it before making videos. Not trying to be a fanboy just 'cause I own one, but I've seen what this beast can do. My 4Runner, with only a 2.5” lift, has been places where only tricked out, super expensive Jeeps can go.
In the you can see the wheels completely locked in the rear (no separate spin). You can also see the A-Trac doing its thing. If you look closely as the video you can see that it tends to bottom out. There's 2 hills in this video. One is significantly more steep. But, the 4runners wheelbase benefits from the taller hill and that's the one that you can see it go up without much spin. The first attempt was a short hill but challenges its wheelbase. If you have one that's lifted it's it's going to significantly change its climbing characteristics. Glad to have your input.. also, thanks for watching! I'll have more 4runners take on the same obstacle. Might even grab a lifted one to change things up!
Bad performance as expected from the 4runner even not tough terrain this is an easy test for land cruiser 70 even the land cruiser 70 doesn't has A-track or crawl control or any computer help 1- manual transmission 2- front and rear diffs 3- no computer help 4- front solid Axel 5- your experience and ready to go There is no need for fancy suspensions or tyres only stock
You're definitely right here. I have had a solid axle triple locker 80 series Land cruiser on this hill about a year ago and it wasn't a challenge for it. Plus it was super muddy! Love your comments!
Yeah that's for sure. I also just learned that you can't tow the new Defender.. well... you can, but the likelihood of you breaking something is really high. Ridiculous
i don’t have any personal experience with these, but I have heard others complain about the batteries. Overlanding groups I hang with say to replace them right away when buying used.
You took video on two different days, the 4Runner when it took the climb had muddy grounds as it just rained. The Land Rover looked to have dry ground with no mud. Total different sorry.
That's a fair point Arthur. From my analysis, the 4 runner was bottoming out and that's what caused it to struggle slightly. There are two hills in that video. The second being the more difficult one. The first one is less steep but challenges the 4runners wheelbase. The second one was much more steep and about a foot taller.. but because of the increase in height the 4runners wheelbase benefitted from that. I was really surprised to see that the 4runner went up the 2nd hill so easily. With that all being said, I will be bringing back another 4runner to challenge that same spot with drier condition.. I also hope to bring the Defender back on soggier conditions. Thanks for your input, and as always, thanks for watching!
I think we can all agree that the 4runner is going to outlast the Defender. When it comes to the off-road capability the defender has an insanely superior traction control system! Do you own a 4runner yourself?
I know right... I'm going to have another 4runner on the channel to redo the test. I'm super convinced that better tires and bit more clearance is going to resolve the issue here. Those step-side bars were really getting in the way of the clearance here.
That 4runner will last three times as long as the Range Rover. Nice truck
Hands down.... The defender is cool but the 4runner isn't going to leave you on the side of the road for another 300k miles. You already know bro!
Diasgree my man, 4X longer!
Nah, the 4runner will last 10 times longer.
Quality. Japan
3 times??????? It will last a lot longer than that...... and the defender is breaking down during your adventure anyways... better be close to town with that one.
Great video. The 4Runner has a low hanging gas tank that hinders it off road. I had a ‘17 SR5 with only Atrac and it went everywhere with upgraded tires (BFG AT’s) stock size and no lift. You have to pick your lines a little more carefully but the tire tread makes all the difference. it’s just such a great overall vehicle. I’m buying another one and am thinking about the pro with this color. My SR5 had 100k miles with only oil changes and a door lock regulator replacement. Sold it for 4k less than I bought it for at 6 years old.
Man that's great to hear! That's the thing about the 4runners, they are so reliable and have such a good name around them that if you take care of it mechanically and aesthetically you're not going to lose much of you bought at a decent price! I know that this 4runner would benefit with some bigger tires. I'm curious to see if the next generation 4runner will be able to take a bigger wheel set without rubbing? Also, thanks for watching OldRush!
I watch TONS of automotive CZcams channels whenever I’m doing my research on buying a new car/truck/SUV but I must say, your relaxed, conversational style is fantastic. New subscriber here! Thanks for the detailed information. Just placed my deposit on a 2024 4Runner TRD Pro today! In “Icecap” Arctic white. Can’t wait!
Jeffrey, thanks for being here and taking the time to subscribe! It really does mean a lot to have your support. Super congrats on your deposit on the '24 model! I can't wait to see one one the road! Happy Holidays! Cheers!
That was a major difference.I want to say it was the tires, but the defender had some very basic tires too. nice video contrasting the two.
Thanks Diego.... I'm going to have another Defender and an 4Runner back on the channel at the same time! That's going to be interesting! Thanks for watching!
Yeah love my 4TRD-ORP sold my lifted JK and upgraded. Nice video and happy trails!
Nice switch with the TRD! Congrats! I'm sure you miss your Jk a bit though... Happy Trails!
I think the ground condition was a bit wet during the 4Runner's.
You're right on that. But, if you look closely you can see that it's bottoming out a bit. I've got another 4runner that's going to come do this test again. This time I'll make sure it's really dry! Good eye though! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the comparison! Good work 🤙
And thank you for watching! I'm going to have another 4runner on the channel to redo the test! Folks want to see this again!
Great review... Thank you Tim.
Thank you for the kind words Shannon! Hope you had a great holiday weekend!
Loving mine Day&night, just bought 2023 in metallic grey..
ooooo A man of taste! Congrats!
Thats the exact color i want.
I love that it has a TIMING CHAIN-- and the serpentine belt only runs accessories... so if it goes bad- your engine stays good!!! GREAT VIDEO-- thanks..
Timing chain was a smart move by Toyota . And thanks for watching, glad you liked it David! Cheers!
This color is cool. My favorite are the light blue and the Vodoo 4runner looks so nice with the Trd Pro roof rack
That's one of their best colors... 15 years from now everyone is going to be looking for those! You already know!
If the land rover defender could possibly stay reliable and not break down on the trails maybe it could be a viable option even with the high price. No way would I pick a land rover defender over a 4runner TRD PRO...it a no brainer
I know.. sucks. You would think that Land Rover would recognize that they don't have a good name to their reliability and do something about that.... Maybe one day. Toyota for now!
Sound deadening it makes a whole world of difference!
Yup, you're 100% right
wow, awesome demonstration...
Thanks for the kind words! I try to do what I would want to see. Move good vids coming soon!
4Runner makes a great dog car, the little cubby in front of the shifter perfectly holds a roll of dog poop bags.
oooo I never thought of that! You're totally right! I will mention that on the review! Going to test this again!
@@reviewedbytim awesome!! It's crazy how well they fit, a new roll fits PERFECTLY in the sized slot you get with the manual t-case lever.
Nice to see your videos; hey I find that in order to get objective/apples to apples comparison doing a slip test on rollers for each vehicle with all their different 4wd options works better. That removes the differences that can be introduced by different factors like wet soil, driver's input for approach, etc. If you can make a video doing roller based slip test for both 4runner trd pro and defender, that would be awesome,
You have a good idea here! Thanks for watching!
I’ve seen high dollar Range Rovers come up short, while Toyotas kept on digging and digging.
I can agree with you. Seen it myself too. We're going to have another 4runner on the channel and redo the test in better conditions. One things for sure... the Toyota isn't going to leave you stranded
Nice truck but this thing is disgustingly overpriced. My local toyota dealership has one in the showroom for 67k.
I can 100% agree with you. It's out of control
Dumb questions but 1 do they have the aux plug in for ipods? Also do all trd have sunroofs? Living here in WA state we have too much rain for that. Im in the market for the trd off road in metallic grey.
Not dumb at all!
1. Yes for the AUX
2. TRD comes with Sunroofs
I can tell you that there is no issues with the Sunroofs on these. If you get one with one you're going to like it when the day is good for it! Thanks for watching! Let me know if you have any more questions. Just make sure you @ me or I won't get the notification.
That defender was on all season tires too 😆
Yeah lol
I cant wait to see in the future a 5.0 cummins in the 4 runner
Right lol, I’m kind of scared right now. I’ve already seen underneath the TwinTurbo Tundra. It’s not bad but it’s not good lol. Soooo man sensors.
4Runner all day!
Amen lol
Did you have ATRAC enabled during the second hill climb? It didn’t look like the brakes were grabbing the spinning wheel. As I’m sure you probably know, when you put the 4Runner in low-range, all of the traction control is disabled unless the ATRAC button is pressed.
I did, and I noticed that myself. I was able to hear the A-trac activating through the ABS module. We're going to do a second test with another TRD and this time I'll record everything that I do in the cabin. But I am going to say that the first test wasn't with A-trac. Only locked rear diff. Thanks for watching Pat!
@@reviewedbytim thanks for the info! I’m surprised the ATRAC wasn’t more aggressive. And it is an unmistakable sound - kind of like sneakers in a dryer. Love the quick reviews and comparisons!
I chose Solar Octane as a 2nd option, but I got my Midnight Black, just need Bronze Rims now
Oooooo someone got taste! Love to hear it! I know you’re loving that thing ! Cheers!
Go get the Defender I'll see you out there on the trails in
my TRD 4runner Venture!
Bro, I drive an LX470. Toyota all day! TRD Venture.. my boy.... Let's gooo!
@reviewedbytim Ah ah ahhh...LX470 isn't the defender which was touted in this video as having better performance than the TRD. Lolol
Was there more moisture in the soil when testing the 4Runner?
Yes, but I believe that the main factor was the 4runner bottoming out. But to be fair, I am planning to retest soon.. as soon as it dries up over here!
I'm still waiting for my Solar Octane to come in. We ordered it in March. And we are paying MSRP.
You better get ready for all the thumbs up you’re about to get! This gets attention.. the good kind lol
Congrats!
I much prefer the LEVER for changing 4x4 too.. I HATE when they put knobs for chaning gears.. makes it feel STUPID and cheap..The ONLY thing I don't like is the MPGs... BUT, can't have everything!! :) (and it's not THAT bad-- my old car only gets about 20 and it's little).. AGREED- the slide out tray is GENIUS!!
You're right about the lever > knobs. It's a much better feel and you know it's going to last longer over the year. Toyota is still super reliable and even the older 4runners have knobs and the actuators never really go out. But still... we like levers! lol
Is the pro the only one with the Toyota heritage badge in the grille?
That I don't know... probably so.
I don't like the fake hood air intake either. Interesting to note however, is that many car manufacturers now use fake hood intakes (GMC, Chevy and many others).
Yeah the manufacturers know that people generally like the way it looks. Only people that are more "car enthusiast" know that it's supposed to be functional. So it bugs us when it's not....
Did you have A-Trac engaged?
Yes sir! Also, rear diff was locked. Thanks for watching Red Bull!
I think with that expense--- i'd have the MILItARY GRADE rust protector put on OVER that normal stuff... THIS is one that wouldn't even need mods... it's GOOD ENOUGH.
You're right about that! These cars are way too expensive to say that rust could be a problem down the road. Toyotas have always had a rust issue and it's completely preventive.
Try the GX460 next 😅❤
You already know!
Sold their soul to Panasonic when it is still assembled in Japan. Panasonic is still huge there. I mean it’s written on Sapporo tower and ever light on Tokyo tower is a Panasonic. The trd pro runner is assembled in Japan. I only knew this before seeing the door when I bought mine and it was still boarding a ship in Japan. I did notice you didn’t fully utilize the 4wd on this. That may have balanced out a bit better on that hill climb. No dif lock and mts would have gone way better. A single locker is good for brute force but there is a computer there. All be it a revised decade old computer. Bags are cool, and expensive when they fail. As all three of my LC have. Like an Alpha, you buy them to fix them.
Ahhh... we will have another TRD one the channel soon the off-road challenge. The ground was a bit soft as well. I really appreciate your input and will save this comment for the next TRD off-road test. Cheers!
@@reviewedbytim hope it goes well. Only got 3k on mine but as a buyer sight unseen. I can’t complain
I really want the toyota 4runner in pur country but it's not here but it looks sick!
They do look awesome! Where do you live?
@@reviewedbytim south africa. The only suvs we have to replace the 4runner is the toyota fortuner.
That sheet metal is galvanized so rust should not be an issue.
That's great to know! Glad to see Toyota recognized that and made a change! Thanks for watching!
@@reviewedbytim Still gotta watch out for the frame rust. Toyota doesn't wanna do anything about that unfortunately.
@@bigd7481yeah if you live in the Rust Belt definitely get it undercoated
Hmmm interesting. 4runner had a wet surface almost muddy and the land rover was on dry surface, could that be it? Would nice to see both on similar surfaces.
You're right about that.. But I think the reason the 4runner "struggled" was because it was bottoming out... I have a lifted one on the way to compare to! Just to make sure!
@@reviewedbytim The clearance very much could be an issue but the biggest issue is you didn't have the equivalent features turned on with the 4runner it seems. When you put the Defender into off-road it automatically turns on a bunch of off-road features. With the 4runner most of those features you have turn on yourself. Good example is at 12:42 when the Defender pulls up on the hill, you can hear the clear sound of the traction control system popping. Also the lack of wheel spin with the Defender shows the traction control was working as that's what it does. To get a more equivalent setup for the 4runner at the very least, turn on the Multi-Terrain Select to Mud and Sand. That can be run in 4Hi as long as you stay under 7 mph I think it is. If you want to get the 4runner closer to what the Defender had set then you should use the crawl control. It will control all 4 wheels independently similar to what was going on with the Defender. Including the popping heard from the Defender but MUCH louder lol.
NOW THAT - is a demo!!!! GREAT JOB-- (nice photographer too!! )
She's a great girl... she's here with me now as I respond to this, she says THANKS lol
YES -- i LOVE this look-- I did NOT like the new 2024 versions-- they're trying to get too freakin fancy. Are those back windows FACTORY TINTED?? In VA, they're very strict on that and might want it removed... UNLESS IT"S FACTORY- and they can't legally force it in that case.
This body style is so nice! And yes, the tint is factory (from what I know). Thanks for commenting David!
Needs ceramic tint
Needs its bad...
Good review especially comparing between defender and 4runner
4runner trd off-road with fox shock absorbers and all terrain tyres and smaller rims and need to climb the hill 2 to 3 times while the defender did it at the first try.
The defender has a bigger rims, normal tyres and unfancy shocks. Yes it is more expensive and using air suspension.
My opinion trd segment is useless and just a fancy segment only fit for north american market.
No need for fancy shocks because normal suspensions are capable to do the work you'll not using it like rally dakar cars .
I think the gx can do it better than the 4runner
Great analysis Mohammed! I have a GX coming to the channel that I'll test. And, I do agree with you. I'm sure the GX is going to impress! Thanks for watching!
Notice how much slipperier that clay was when you tested the 4Runner. Land Rover had dry conditions. Toyota will outlast Land Rover and be reliable doing it.
You're darn right about the reliability... We're going to test again!
Bro, the issue wasn’t the lift on the 4Runner. Rather, the surface during your test of the Land Rover was noticeably dryer than was the case during your test of the 4Runner. Kindly watch your footages again… Goodluck!
I can agree with you that the conditions made a slight difference. To me the main factor was the truck bottoming out (you can kind of see it in the video). For example.. There are two different hills that I climbed in that video. The first hill is where we saw the struggle. The second part of that hill is noticeable steeper but the wheelbase of the 4runner benefits from it... so it went up it without spinning too much. The first hill wasn't good for that specific wheelbase even though it was short (causing it to bottom out). I'll bring another one out on a dry day to test again! Just to be sure! Thanks for watching by the way!
NO-- just get the grapplers off and put some BETTER tires on.. I think it did BETTER than the landrover-- and the landrover was CLOSE to being overbalanced to its Tipping point- the 4runner wasn't... much SAFER..
You're right.... We need a tire change! We'll redo the test... there's several folks in the comments that are request a redo anyways! Tires would definitely make a difference! Thanks for all your enthusiasm David! I loved all your comments! Happy Holidays!
Tires are everything mostly
I could agree there... I'll be testing it out again in drier conditions. Thanks for watching!
You need to learn A trac and crawl control.
You can see that all 4 tires was pulling. The problem be seen that it's the clearance and the tires. Ground a bit soft too. We will have another one on the channel for another try. Going to bring a lifted model too! Thanks for watching!
You picked equally bad lines in both vehicles. If you take that hill head on or at a less agressive side angle both vehicles would go up just fine and it would not be a good test of off road capability.
I took the best line I could without rubbing the bumpers.
it was wet ground vs dry ground land rover didn't outperforme.
Fair point. That's a factor but I think the 4runner was bottoming out. You can see it in the thumbnail. But, I'm going to have another TRD give another run! Good eye yourself! And, thanks or watching!
The headlights on my 16 are horrible
Are the like that on all of them? I haven't reviewed that Gen yet. That'll be something for me to look out for
@@reviewedbytim idk, definitely my 2016
Get ready to hoard up on these 5th gen! Next year could be the last before shitty 6th gen rolls in
I kinda feel you on that.. I think they're going to go forced induction with it... What do you think?
What will be shitty about it, you sound dumb
Fun stuff. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
That's all life's about! Cheers!
Yeah but the 4 runner won’t break down my dude.
Bro you're 100%. The defender drives like it should (100k car). But I would still take the 4runner in the long run. Plus I found out that you can't tow a Defender. It's nearly impossible.
Just by looking at the wheel spinning. You didn’t use rear differential (Locker) and not even A-Track.
I get that you love flashy cars just because they’re painted gold or very expensive (Defender) but, you should be honest on the reviews.
The defender does not have the wheelbase the 4Runner offers and the lifting gadget is nothing but a corky trick. That’s why you will never see a Defender go against a Rubicon, Bronco or 4runner on the field.
Stick with flashiness buddy.
Chilll.......I had them both turned on.. you can see the rear diff locked from the rear tire view.
The reasons people don't bring defenders off-road are because...
1. They're 100k.
2. They're really expensive if they break.
3. They will break.
4. You can't really tow them.
They're extremely capable but not the best for real world situations.
Also, I daily a land cruiser so I'm not sure what you mean "stick with flashy".
Hey, you gotta be kidding, right?
Didn't see you use the lockers or MTS with A-track, which are game changers off-road. That 4Runner articulation is serious business, man. Try more off-roading with it before making videos. Not trying to be a fanboy just 'cause I own one, but I've seen what this beast can do. My 4Runner, with only a 2.5” lift, has been places where only tricked out, super expensive Jeeps can go.
In the you can see the wheels completely locked in the rear (no separate spin). You can also see the A-Trac doing its thing. If you look closely as the video you can see that it tends to bottom out. There's 2 hills in this video. One is significantly more steep. But, the 4runners wheelbase benefits from the taller hill and that's the one that you can see it go up without much spin. The first attempt was a short hill but challenges its wheelbase. If you have one that's lifted it's it's going to significantly change its climbing characteristics. Glad to have your input.. also, thanks for watching! I'll have more 4runners take on the same obstacle. Might even grab a lifted one to change things up!
Bad performance as expected from the 4runner even not tough terrain this is an easy test for land cruiser 70 even the land cruiser 70 doesn't has A-track or crawl control or any computer help
1- manual transmission
2- front and rear diffs
3- no computer help
4- front solid Axel
5- your experience and ready to go
There is no need for fancy suspensions or tyres only stock
You're definitely right here. I have had a solid axle triple locker 80 series Land cruiser on this hill about a year ago and it wasn't a challenge for it. Plus it was super muddy! Love your comments!
Land Rover breaks down a lot
Yeah that's for sure. I also just learned that you can't tow the new Defender.. well... you can, but the likelihood of you breaking something is really high. Ridiculous
Panasonic batteries are one of the longest lasting batteries ever put in a consumer vehicle. just ask the longtime owners how long it has lasted them.
I can believe that! Toyota wouldn't stick with them if was the other way around. Thanks for watching Gerald!
Weird my Panasonic battery went out when I put on some new lights. I bought mine used it’s a 14’ ORP
i don’t have any personal experience with these, but I have heard others complain about the batteries. Overlanding groups I hang with say to replace them right away when buying used.
You took video on two different days, the 4Runner when it took the climb had muddy grounds as it just rained. The Land Rover looked to have dry ground with no mud. Total different sorry.
That's a fair point Arthur. From my analysis, the 4 runner was bottoming out and that's what caused it to struggle slightly. There are two hills in that video. The second being the more difficult one. The first one is less steep but challenges the 4runners wheelbase. The second one was much more steep and about a foot taller.. but because of the increase in height the 4runners wheelbase benefitted from that. I was really surprised to see that the 4runner went up the 2nd hill so easily. With that all being said, I will be bringing back another 4runner to challenge that same spot with drier condition.. I also hope to bring the Defender back on soggier conditions. Thanks for your input, and as always, thanks for watching!
Softex bro...not leather..softex is actually better
I'll have to check that out! Thanks for watching!
bullshit comparison 4runner great vehicle landrover with break well before the 4runner
I think we can all agree that the 4runner is going to outlast the Defender. When it comes to the off-road capability the defender has an insanely superior traction control system! Do you own a 4runner yourself?
@@reviewedbytimit's just a hater that cant get out of his camry
Amateur hour hill climbing. Dude nearly flipped the Land Rover and the 4runner got very tippy and stuck. Take the hill straight on.
You can't hit it straight on. The bumpers will not clear. More like "Amateur comment hour"
@@reviewedbytimthats why the 4runner has approach angles on the front. In case nobody noticed 👌😎
Too bad the Defender is a trash vehicle that won’t last half as long or have the resale of the 4Runner
I know right... I'm going to have another 4runner on the channel to redo the test. I'm super convinced that better tires and bit more clearance is going to resolve the issue here. Those step-side bars were really getting in the way of the clearance here.
Sr5 can do 99.9% of what any trd pro could do
I can believe that! The thing that really makes the difference is the suspension.... I'm sure you can jump this thing lol
@@reviewedbytim the suspension is a beginner grade off road suspension. All the true off-roaders take it out and upgrade
@@sebastianromero420suspension is fine for what most people do buddy
And your wrong. Offroad and pro are better equipped hence the reason it cost more
it's not the hill, it's the lack of knowledge in using a 4X4. a review should be done by someone who knows what they are talking about.
Im pretty familiar with Toyota. I daily drive a Land Cruiser myself. You can come teach me!
Loving mine Day&night, just bought 2023 in metallic grey..
Where did you buy it from?
@@reviewedbytim bought it in Calgary, AB , Canada from on of the toyota dealership in town
Nice! Great choice!