@@thabisopharoo5605 dont think feelings and meanings came into what i said. Fact remains more money is leaving the country than coming in, hence why zim is flourishing according to those stats.
When you go from 0% and build a house you have grown 100%, that means you only have to build 2 houses the next year to grow 100%, insane growth from a low base is quite easy, south africa was stuck in the middle income trap for years, looks like their solution was to go back to been poor to solve that problem🎉
I hear you. Going from 1 building to 10 buildings is 1000% increase. When you go from 1million buildings to 2million that's only 100% increase.... So yes the starting points also influence statistics... Journalists like to take stats out of context and sensationalize headlines (but that said these stats need to be defined and explained more for it to be understood correctly)
I remember telling my Director 8 years ago that the GDP is going to fall drastically and the Dollar/ ZAR rate would likely get to 20-1..........he said I was talking kak.... 😂
Don't be fooled. I was in Harare last year. There is NO MIDDLE CLASS AT ALL. It's Land Cruisers or feet to get around. Everything costs 4 times what it costs here. They have had 2 failed currencies (heading for a third) That place is fubar.
Zimbabweans have a better standard of living in Zimbabwe than in South Africa. My relatives in SA always live in slums with no electricity, no jobs, high crime. In Zimbabwe, they most likely own a house, have a business or their parents do, self sufficient with electricty and water, and there’s little to no crime. Zimbabwe is far from perfect, but for Zimbabweans, it is one of the best places to be in Africa.
funny thing about Mozambique is that I know at least 5 White Afrikaners doing business over there. Just something as simple as bottling water is giving them a significant ROI
Figures given are ridiculous: Zim has 16 million citizens of which 1- 3 million are in South Africa. Where do people get silly stuff like 75% or half?!
@@sandraderoubaix734 I was using hyperbole... That said, we shouldn't be leaving nor should our neighbours be coming here.. There should be ample opportunities in our own countries.
@@sandraderoubaix734 absolutely. Really, it would be great if we could stabilize our neighbours and ourselves. Then we wouldn't be having this conversation. No one wants to leave their home...
POINT OF ORDER The problem with those 2.1 million tourists from Zimbabwe only 102 of them went back, the 2033898 are now living in Pakals dorp with false ID;s, and claiming government grants.
The difference is that the average Zimbabwean is reasonable intelligent, can read and write, and has a good work ethic. Can't say the same for the average South African
@@southafricangirl1698 indeed they do. Meanwhile our education standards is far lower. They've dumbed it down. Because the last thing the ANC wants is an intelligent population capable of critical thinking.
Just because Zimbabwes GDP has grown doesn't mean the economy isn't suffering The repeat problem are high inflation (now over 18,000 ZWD for 1USD which the year before it was around 8,000ZWD) Zimbabwe also has poor electrical infrastructure (thank god i live in a neighborhood with enough ministers to have power most of the day)
Once you hit rock bottom, you cannot go anywhere but UP. It has also taken 23 years for anything to happen, and if it were not for China and Belarus nothing would have happened. There is a lot of construction going on, but very little to nothing in upgrading water and electricity. Many households there have gone to solar power as the national grid is nonfunctional for much of the time, a lot worse than Eskom. That does not mean that Eskom deserve some sort of praise. I am one of those many who had to shut up shop due to no power.
Zimbabwe does not even have a Harbour. What they do have is some productivity, with products exported to other countries, mostly being sold at South African traffic lights.
@@Enoch940that was true in 2007 and part of 2008 , All shops are as stocked as those in any African country, beyond that you would be misleading people. Maybe you did not have the means to get money , the jobs you celebrate are what is bugging the natives of RSA, WAKE UP
No Zim is not doing better. Zim has a higher growth rate because it is coming of such a low starting point. If you had 1 grain of rice and now you've got 10 grains of rice that is 1000% growth. But if you started with one mielie and now gave 2 mielies that is only double. Who is doing better though?
Not just Zim's citizens but many other African countries's illegal migrants as well. There is no way in hell that there are 60 million South Africans in this country period. I will say at best there are 30 million South Africans. The rest are all migrants both legal and illegal combined. That is why the ANC refuses to hold a census every 5 years as the law requires. They know very damn well what the data will reveal and how the public will react.
Zim maths and science teachers are brilliant. Without them we would go South completely. I teach sewing skills to, among other Zimbabwean men and women and they are intelligent and diligent.
South Africans would be too, but the parasites in parliament have lowered our education system because a 30% pass rate voter is easy to manipulate and control 😡
Disagree, the ones here are to large degree hard working and honest. And most of those that I have spoken to would go home in a flash if the political situation improved.
I shared a house with a Zimbabwean refugee 20 years ago. He was on the darker shade of brown & well educated. His family joined him after a couple of months in his room. A wife & two children…Mugabe fucked it for them. The racism going on at the time was appalling. A senile leader with delusions of grandeur…
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Wow that says alot about ANC but keep in mind half of Zim now lives here which will give a distorted figure
Well done, idiolistic cANCer, your decolonisation and RET are now finally yielding solid results. Kindly also mention the other metrics such as investment in infrastructure, basic education, unemployment and security.
As a Zimbabwean I can not comment much on this subject directly.. Yes we have very many issues and things going wrong in Zimbabwe ..its all too easy for people to look at everything going wrong only... The positive things in Zimbabwe .. How many South Africans know that probably just about every home in Zimbabwe is mortgage free and paid off/for in full and those building are doing it on a pay as you go basis...building in Zim has been booming by those in the diaspora and at home..google rural Zimbabwe luxury homes..most look better than city homes.. Rural land and farmland in Zimbabwe is free.. So the new black farmers ..whatever farming equipment, livestock I believe that too is mortgage free and owned outright, same in rural areas.. The cars on the road are not higher purchase but paid for in cash.. There are ordinary people into mining, business , everyone is husling..informal trading to make ends meet..i believe the same goes for business premises..they too are owned outright!.. I can rem a debate a few years ago between Zimbabweans and South Africans along these lines. I don"t know any Zimbabwean family and friends who has a mortgage in Zim . Maybe in recent years there might be some but I don"t know anyone personally and I know many people .. How many South Africans or even Westerners of working age can say they have a paid off home. Car, furnture, clothes, knickers?😂 We have been under UsA/Western illegal sanctions for about 23 years..we had to learn quickly "how to make the road by walking it"..yes many of us scattered around the world... Does anyone know how liberating it is not to be a slave to the lender?.. Yes we are still in a situation, rotten corrupt leaders.. Like someone said ..when you hit rock bottom the only way is up.. Imagine when things turn around.. Ours should be a model for most of Africa,the world to study and learn as an alternative to the aggressive capitalists system run by greedy western banks.. Western banks took flight when we were put under illegel sanctions..but we survived and some are thriving.. I hope we will not re-adopt the old systems of debt and follow the old foolishness crippling so many around the world with the high interest rates and greedflation going on.. Thats the positives of illegal western sanctions on Zimbabweans..
Zimbabwe has no medication at their clinics most of the population does not have electricity that is why they claim to have no loadshedding. Abject poverty everything is falling apart. The scattered nation.
You sir need to do research. Most of Zimbabweans have electricity because even if the high density there’s electricity. There’s medication in the clinics. Just not everything. You are being disingenuous. And we had load shedding problems last year but now it’s rare. If you have don’t have all the information it’s best you don’t say anything.
@@vanessagowora just saw with my own eyes driving through Zimbabwe last year. Some medsMaybe I was not in your neighbourhood. Some medication in clinics lol.
Hold on here... We need to analyse what growth actually means here? Sure GDP can grow when all that money goes to the top levels of society only.... So maybe the statistics are misleading... Make sure that the average citizens wealth is growing and not just the politically connected people then come back to me with stats (I know morning shots just reporting the story, I'm questioning the writers of the story)
One question? This growth listed in these countries. Did it actually make these countries more prosperous or is all this growth lining the pockets of the elite. Because on the ground this growth we do not see. why is all Zimbabweans not going back???? If all is so good in Zim. You can show weird things by showing numbers on a spreadsheet. But it takes quite a bit more to measure and show affluency?? And to quote in dollar terms skews the essence completely, since Africa keeps losing ground when we talk currency rates??
Lol the South African GDP is much much larger than all of these countries you guys are referring to. The GDP growth did slow down and the Egyptian and Nigerian GDP overtook us.
The reason we do not grow and they are - our money goes to Zim to build and buy food. Ours don't bring anything in from overseas. If we become Zim - no country we can run to and send money here. To expensive to live elsewhere.
My Zulu gardener came to the same conclusion at end 2023, but he is not Zimbabwean or Malawian. I do my best by him as he is a good and reliable worker, but 28 million on grants and only 7 million taxpayers? What irks me is that he has learned a lot about gardening in the last ten years with me, but can't find other piece work except dodgy, on-and-off construction work.
There is no freedom or future without forgiveness. As long as they cant forgive apartheid and blame everything on it, they will struggle and be mentally inslaved by themselves. The proof is in the pudding.
Weak people cannot forgive, forgiveness is an attribute of the strong and without forgiveness there is no freedom or future. If they keep blaming apartheid and cannot forgive they will never be free (mentally). Its a self made prison...may the struggle continue. Only Idiots refuse to change their minds. Self inflicted mental slavery. The mind is a terrible thing to waste, use it or loose it. The proof is in the pudding (behaviour).
😂😂😂 then maby i was in the wrong country over Dec 2023. 12 hour load shedds. No essential foods on any shelves anywhere. I could list much more but SA seems to be intent on one day being worse then Zim and working hard to achieve this aim.
Point of order, theyve got our infrastructure, where do the cellphone tower batteries, transformers, cables and robots go? Wheredoes the illegally mined gold and eskoms stolen coal and generator parts go? That's where our growth is going...it's like a dissappearing message. Was there..but..
Interestingly, Stats SA's official definition of "tourist" is not what we would think. Nonetheless, it still boggles the mind that we let any and everybody waltz in and out of our country like it's a ballroom festival. And people still have no idea where all the crime is coming from or who to vote for. What a clown show. 😒
Can we really compare the numbers? % is one thing, but the baseline in terms of $ numbers would be interesting - and finally compare. Of course the number looks better, when you come from the "valley of tears" in %growth.... never trust statistics, you did not manipulate yourself ;)
Zim's basic education was far superior to that od SA. Those kids grew up with th ekowlwdge of how to make a plan. this is still evident in the ZIm citizens (legal and illegal) that came to SA and are doing well for themselves. Zambia has developed tremendously and ex SA farmers who went there are loving it and doing well - our loss and their gain. Endless paperwork rules and regulations in SA business makes small business worthless and a pain in SA. the local govt is overstaffed, incompetent arrogant unhelpful - generally 90% useless and grossly overpaid. The ANC has systematically destroyed anything that worked efficiently in SA and it will take years to get back to any semblance of truly effective governance with the idiot cadres in place. All municipal and govt. employees need to be vetted for job knowledge, efficiency, effectiveness, competence, attitude and honesty to keep their job. Many will fail which means new people will have to be hired to replace them. It should also mean that with the right people in place the workforce could be cut by two thirds!
Most Zimbos come into the country using the 90 days visitors visas and use truck drivers to renew them every 3 months. Stop abusing statistics, all those countries are growing from a low base. RSA's 1% in rand terms could equal Zimbabwe's 2500%. Only Nigeria and Egypt can compete with RSA.
You can actually hear that Zimbabweans sound more educated ...mistakenly we could put credit where once some had access to schooling and colonial influence. Not entirely true, Zimbabweans had their own writing stemming from Egyptian hieroglyphics..
Agreed. However, if I look at the work ethic between South Africans and our neighbours, there is a stark contrast. The anc and eff have indoctrinated their followers to focus more on blaming others for their problems, than actually trying to be part of a solution. This won't change until the rot is removed at the top.
I came for this comment and it did not disappoint, its almost like you can guess that the 30%ers hot take would be of this.. lets steal the land, an African proverb 😂 truly the world retards
Zimbabwe has no medication at their clinics most of the population does not have electricity that is why they claim to have no loadshedding. Abject poverty everything is falling apart. The scattered nation.
So 30 years ago eksdom was producing 56GW electricity constantly without blackouts. Now its battling to produce 24GW. Thats real progress yes
Black ANC hand of destruction.
EKSKOM keeps the lights off to keep the cadre feeding troughs full.
Meanwhile the sofa is taking care of breaking the rest.
most of those "tourists" are sending money home to their families.. south african rands.
100%, our Zim employees are doing the same
It's an indicator u can't deny it facts don't care about your feelings and meanings
@@thabisopharoo5605 dont think feelings and meanings came into what i said. Fact remains more money is leaving the country than coming in, hence why zim is flourishing according to those stats.
When you go from 0% and build a house you have grown 100%, that means you only have to build 2 houses the next year to grow 100%, insane growth from a low base is quite easy, south africa was stuck in the middle income trap for years, looks like their solution was to go back to been poor to solve that problem🎉
I hear you. Going from 1 building to 10 buildings is 1000% increase. When you go from 1million buildings to 2million that's only 100% increase.... So yes the starting points also influence statistics... Journalists like to take stats out of context and sensationalize headlines (but that said these stats need to be defined and explained more for it to be understood correctly)
I remember telling my Director 8 years ago that the GDP is going to fall drastically and the Dollar/ ZAR rate would likely get to 20-1..........he said I was talking kak.... 😂
Don't be fooled. I was in Harare last year. There is NO MIDDLE CLASS AT ALL. It's Land Cruisers or feet to get around. Everything costs 4 times what it costs here. They have had 2 failed currencies (heading for a third) That place is fubar.
You have to have dollars or making dollars to be able to live there.
Those "tourist" stats are crazy stats ! Cant believe we have so many holiday makers from Zimbabwe 😂
The "tourists" are illegal immigrants...he us being sarcastic
Zimbabweans have a better standard of living in Zimbabwe than in South Africa. My relatives in SA always live in slums with no electricity, no jobs, high crime. In Zimbabwe, they most likely own a house, have a business or their parents do, self sufficient with electricty and water, and there’s little to no crime. Zimbabwe is far from perfect, but for Zimbabweans, it is one of the best places to be in Africa.
Then why millions in South Africa
Ramon, " another cappucino please" cracked me up
funny thing about Mozambique is that I know at least 5 White Afrikaners doing business over there.
Just something as simple as bottling water is giving them a significant ROI
And you make US dollars too.
Gosh, that and we have half of Zim living here now...
Figures given are ridiculous: Zim has 16 million citizens of which 1- 3 million are in South Africa. Where do people get silly stuff like 75% or half?!
@@sandraderoubaix734 I was using
hyperbole... That said, we shouldn't be leaving nor should our neighbours be coming here.. There should be ample opportunities in our own countries.
@@helenduplessis4166 sorry Helen! My apologies.Realise that now☺ But some stats quoted are ridiculous!
@@sandraderoubaix734 absolutely. Really, it would be great if we could stabilize our neighbours and ourselves. Then we wouldn't be having this conversation. No one wants to leave their home...
POINT OF ORDER
The problem with those 2.1 million tourists from Zimbabwe only 102 of them went back, the 2033898 are now living in Pakals dorp with false ID;s, and claiming government grants.
Those grants came from corrupt South African people who have multiple grants themselves!
The difference is that the average Zimbabwean is reasonable intelligent, can read and write, and has a good work ethic. Can't say the same for the average South African
They have a different education system to SA, they do a Cambridge matric, or they did the last time I looked at a cv
That won't work for a 30%er with 66 IQ. 😂
@@southafricangirl1698 indeed they do. Meanwhile our education standards is far lower. They've dumbed it down. Because the last thing the ANC wants is an intelligent population capable of critical thinking.
The Smith government ensured that education was one of the first priorities, and somehow they managed to continue with that view.
Just because Zimbabwes GDP has grown doesn't mean the economy isn't suffering
The repeat problem are high inflation (now over 18,000 ZWD for 1USD which the year before it was around 8,000ZWD)
Zimbabwe also has poor electrical infrastructure (thank god i live in a neighborhood with enough ministers to have power most of the day)
Zimbabweans should be reasonable and intelligent enough to know that coming to South Africa isn't the solution to their problems
Well most people who come there...are lazy....and I'm a Zimbabwean who is proudly staying in Zim working hard
Don't blame those people, blame Anc ,because anc is supporting zanu
Once you hit rock bottom, you cannot go anywhere but UP. It has also taken 23 years for anything to happen, and if it were not for China and Belarus nothing would have happened. There is a lot of construction going on, but very little to nothing in upgrading water and electricity. Many households there have gone to solar power as the national grid is nonfunctional for much of the time, a lot worse than Eskom. That does not mean that Eskom deserve some sort of praise. I am one of those many who had to shut up shop due to no power.
Chaos brings opportunities as well, we have to be ready to utilize those opportunities. The coming collapse is unavoidable.
Zimbabwe does not even have a Harbour. What they do have is some productivity, with products exported to other countries, mostly being sold at South African traffic lights.
Just amazing how figures can be manipulated and still be accepted as true...
Mainstream media always manipulate stories to suit themselves 😡
you guys should make a video on the ANC losing the cadre deployment case
If Zimbabwe is better why still so many are coming 2 South Africa
If the UK is doing great why do you have UK citizens living in RSA? People move.
Shortage of everything in Zimbabwe. Very trying to survive. I left 5 years ago. Much happier here , shelves are full. Many jobs. Good money. Thanks
Bcz most people who come there are criminals
@@Enoch940kkkk....I love Zim and I'm in Zim and I'm staying in Zim
@@Enoch940that was true in 2007 and part of 2008 , All shops are as stocked as those in any African country, beyond that you would be misleading people. Maybe you did not have the means to get money , the jobs you celebrate are what is bugging the natives of RSA, WAKE UP
No Zim is not doing better. Zim has a higher growth rate because it is coming of such a low starting point.
If you had 1 grain of rice and now you've got 10 grains of rice that is 1000% growth.
But if you started with one mielie and now gave 2 mielies that is only double. Who is doing better though?
wooo shem, it's late for you
To be fair, Zimbabwe is only looking after a quarter of its citizens as 75% are illegally in South Africa
Wow.🤔.that is actually a great arguement, they sheded all their problems to us.
Not just Zim's citizens but many other African countries's illegal migrants as well. There is no way in hell that there are 60 million South Africans in this country period. I will say at best there are 30 million South Africans. The rest are all migrants both legal and illegal combined. That is why the ANC refuses to hold a census every 5 years as the law requires. They know very damn well what the data will reveal and how the public will react.
That's Zim's version of loadshedding!
@@kennethnair2654😂
😂😂😂😂
A gun license in Zim takes about a week. Ramapoes lied. I’m shocked.🤣🤣🤣
Ok, but one cannot ever be as shocked as the sofa himself.
Nor as utterly useless.
😂
@@joecruiser brilliant.🤣🤣🤣
Will you do a show on the violation of rights of student Shaun Christie who has been unlawfully expelled off campus this week?
He is better off without their mind programming posing as education with no real benefits
And how many Zim tourists went back?
Only those with loot.
They are long term tourists 😂
Thank you, Roman and Byron
Zim maths and science teachers are brilliant. Without them we would go South completely. I teach sewing skills to, among other Zimbabwean men and women and they are intelligent and diligent.
South Africans would be too, but the parasites in parliament have lowered our education system because a 30% pass rate voter is easy to manipulate and control 😡
Maybe it is time for them to use their intelligence to build their dilapidated country. No use showing their intelligence in a lousy place like RSA.
Doing better but they're here in SA crippling our progress 😅
Disagree, the ones here are to large degree hard working and honest. And most of those that I have spoken to would go home in a flash if the political situation improved.
I shared a house with a Zimbabwean refugee 20 years ago. He was on the darker shade of brown & well educated. His family joined him after a couple of months in his room. A wife & two children…Mugabe fucked it for them. The racism going on at the time was appalling. A senile leader with delusions of grandeur…
Wow that says alot about ANC but keep in mind half of Zim now lives here which will give a distorted figure
True,all Zim tourists send money home, from crime or jobs, thats why
Well done, idiolistic cANCer, your decolonisation and RET are now finally yielding solid results.
Kindly also mention the other metrics such as investment in infrastructure, basic education, unemployment and security.
Great video Ramon and Baron ...
Don't you mean Baron Byron and Baron Ramon.
So why dont Zims go home
We're still holding it up in terms of living standards, cant say much in terms of economic freedom though.
As a Zimbabwean I can not comment much on this subject directly.. Yes we have very many issues and things going wrong in Zimbabwe ..its all too easy for people to look at everything going wrong only...
The positive things in Zimbabwe .. How many South Africans know that probably just about every home in Zimbabwe is mortgage free and paid off/for in full and those building are doing it on a pay as you go basis...building in Zim has been booming by those in the diaspora and at home..google rural Zimbabwe luxury homes..most look better than city homes.. Rural land and farmland in Zimbabwe is free.. So the new black farmers ..whatever farming equipment, livestock I believe that too is mortgage free and owned outright, same in rural areas.. The cars on the road are not higher purchase but paid for in cash.. There are ordinary people into mining, business , everyone is husling..informal trading to make ends meet..i believe the same goes for business premises..they too are owned outright!.. I can rem a debate a few years ago between Zimbabweans and South Africans along these lines. I don"t know any Zimbabwean family and friends who has a mortgage in Zim . Maybe in recent years there might be some but I don"t know anyone personally and I know many people ..
How many South Africans or even Westerners of working age can say they have a paid off home. Car, furnture, clothes, knickers?😂
We have been under UsA/Western illegal sanctions for about 23 years..we had to learn quickly "how to make the road by walking it"..yes many of us scattered around the world... Does anyone know how liberating it is not to be a slave to the lender?.. Yes we are still in a situation, rotten corrupt leaders.. Like someone said ..when you hit rock bottom the only way is up.. Imagine when things turn around.. Ours should be a model for most of Africa,the world to study and learn as an alternative to the aggressive capitalists system run by greedy western banks.. Western banks took flight when we were put under illegel sanctions..but we survived and some are thriving.. I hope we will not re-adopt the old systems of debt and follow the old foolishness crippling so many around the world with the high interest rates and greedflation going on.. Thats the positives of illegal western sanctions on Zimbabweans..
10% of nothing is still nothing😂
Absolutely, its not a great comparison to make is it.
Zimbabwe has no medication at their clinics most of the population does not have electricity that is why they claim to have no loadshedding. Abject poverty everything is falling apart. The scattered nation.
You sir need to do research. Most of Zimbabweans have electricity because even if the high density there’s electricity. There’s medication in the clinics. Just not everything. You are being disingenuous. And we had load shedding problems last year but now it’s rare. If you have don’t have all the information it’s best you don’t say anything.
@@vanessagowora just saw with my own eyes driving through Zimbabwe last year. Some medsMaybe I was not in your neighbourhood. Some medication in clinics lol.
Hold on here... We need to analyse what growth actually means here? Sure GDP can grow when all that money goes to the top levels of society only.... So maybe the statistics are misleading... Make sure that the average citizens wealth is growing and not just the politically connected people then come back to me with stats (I know morning shots just reporting the story, I'm questioning the writers of the story)
I fear that all of what you said here can be read wrong by many people.
One question? This growth listed in these countries. Did it actually make these countries more prosperous or is all this growth lining the pockets of the elite. Because on the ground this growth we do not see. why is all Zimbabweans not going back???? If all is so good in Zim. You can show weird things by showing numbers on a spreadsheet. But it takes quite a bit more to measure and show affluency??
And to quote in dollar terms skews the essence completely, since Africa keeps losing ground when we talk currency rates??
Hi MorningShot im inviting you guys to come and look at how good Zimbabwe is doing the rate at which Mnangagwa is growing at is incredible
Obviously the issue holding SA back is private Land ownership😮
Take back the stolen land not steal. You cant steal what was stolen from you
What ??? 😮
"Ramapoesface"? Is that Latin or Russian?
No Chinese
@@gustabeumer688 Thanks! I would never have guessed....
Lol the South African GDP is much much larger than all of these countries you guys are referring to. The GDP growth did slow down and the Egyptian and Nigerian GDP overtook us.
The reason we do not grow and they are - our money goes to Zim to build and buy food. Ours don't bring anything in from overseas. If we become Zim - no country we can run to and send money here. To expensive to live elsewhere.
My Gardener at end of 2023 - "This country is fucked sir, I'm going home December and not coming back. I will send my cousin in January"
😂
My Zulu gardener came to the same conclusion at end 2023, but he is not Zimbabwean or Malawian. I do my best by him as he is a good and reliable worker, but 28 million on grants and only 7 million taxpayers? What irks me is that he has learned a lot about gardening in the last ten years with me, but can't find other piece work except dodgy, on-and-off construction work.
Well the ANC is the oldest liberation movement in Africa. But were stone last in achieving their "freedom".
There is no freedom or future without forgiveness. As long as they cant forgive apartheid and blame everything on it, they will struggle and be mentally inslaved by themselves. The proof is in the pudding.
Weak people cannot forgive, forgiveness is an attribute of the strong and without forgiveness there is no freedom or future. If they keep blaming apartheid and cannot forgive they will never be free (mentally). Its a self made prison...may the struggle continue. Only Idiots refuse to change their minds. Self inflicted mental slavery. The mind is a terrible thing to waste, use it or loose it. The proof is in the pudding (behaviour).
If Zimbabwe is doing better than South Africa, 🇿🇦why so many Zimbabweans🇿🇦are crossing the borders?
😂😂😂 then maby i was in the wrong country over Dec 2023. 12 hour load shedds. No essential foods on any shelves anywhere. I could list much more but SA seems to be intent on one day being worse then Zim and working hard to achieve this aim.
Oh there's a surprise, ANC politician lies.
Malama for president
Tourists from Zim with no money . What good is that?
Point of order, theyve got our infrastructure, where do the cellphone tower batteries, transformers, cables and robots go? Wheredoes the illegally mined gold and eskoms stolen coal and generator parts go? That's where our growth is going...it's like a dissappearing message.
Was there..but..
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Interestingly, Stats SA's official definition of "tourist" is not what we would think. Nonetheless, it still boggles the mind that we let any and everybody waltz in and out of our country like it's a ballroom festival. And people still have no idea where all the crime is coming from or who to vote for. What a clown show. 😒
Can we really compare the numbers? % is one thing, but the baseline in terms of $ numbers would be interesting - and finally compare. Of course the number looks better, when you come from the "valley of tears" in %growth.... never trust statistics, you did not manipulate yourself ;)
How accurate are they at estimating the informal sector.
Ramapoesface 🤣🤣🤣
I'm just leaving this here so I can come back a few years from now and laugh.
10 * 0 = 0
You guys make good points and everything but I just can't listen to all this reality and still get through the day. It's just too much for me. Sorry.
Zimbabweans are harder working than South Africans.
South african supplies zim with power
Haha
Honorable RrrrrrrrammaPOESface
None of those statements by officials are valid, they did not do the required apartheid blaming.
🤣🤣🤣
Created a table showing the GDP per capita growth (annual %) comparison between SA and ZIM from 1971 to 2020 which shows the various low growth bases both countries have been
influenced by in certain periods of time.
SA in the 80's with internal conflict and international sanctions and Zuma power from 2009 to Feb 2018. COVID was 2020.
ZIM showed economic resilience in the 70's and 80's despite the war but Mugabe power from 1990 and land seizures from 1999 showed economic collapse.
SA ZIM
71 1,27 81 2,68 91 -3,51 1 1,79 11 1,87 71 5,65 81 5,68 91 2,84 1 0,78 11 12,98
72 -1,20 82 -2,92 92 -4,12 2 2,76 12 1,04 72 5,01 82 -1,27 92 -11,27 2 -9,45 12 13,65
73 1,63 83 -4,44 93 -0,58 3 2,00 13 1,09 73 -0,62 83 -2,20 93 -0,38 3 -17,62 13 0,98
74 3,10 84 2,20 94 1,42 4 3,58 14 -0,17 74 3,17 84 -5,32 94 8,59 4 -6,46 14 0,71
75 -1,07 85 -4,09 95 1,41 5 4,28 15 -0,75 75 -5,04 85 3,35 95 -1,07 5 -6,20 15 0,13
76 -0,46 86 -3,20 96 2,72 6 4,59 16 -0,30 76 -2,59 86 -1,22 96 8,54 6 -4,28 16 -1,17
77 -2,74 87 -1,40 97 1,18 7 4,29 17 0,76 77 -9,24 87 -2,06 97 1,01 7 -4,58 17 1,97
78 0,27 88 0,64 98 -0,74 8 2,02 18 0,31 78 -4,13 88 4,27 98 1,22 8 -18,32 18 2,90
79 1,06 89 -0,98 99 1,26 9 -2,70 19 -1,03 79 1,60 89 2,23 99 -2,24 9 10,87 19 -8,17
80 3,84 90 -3,34 00 3,20 10 1,81 20 -7,10 80 8,02 90 4,15 00 -4,02 10 19,93 20 -9,67
Growth
10yrs 5,70 -14,85 2,24 24,42 -4,28 13.23 1.83 7.61 3.22 -35,33 14,31 -8.36
Av. Growth p/yr
0,57 -1,49 0,22 2,44 -0,43 2.65 0,18 0,76 0,32 -3,53 1,43 -1.7
I don’t see how Zimbabweans could have stolen their own land lol?????
Zim's basic education was far superior to that od SA. Those kids grew up with th ekowlwdge of how to make a plan. this is still evident in the ZIm citizens (legal and illegal) that came to SA and are doing well for themselves. Zambia has developed tremendously and ex SA farmers who went there are loving it and doing well - our loss and their gain.
Endless paperwork rules and regulations in SA business makes small business worthless and a pain in SA. the local govt is overstaffed, incompetent arrogant unhelpful - generally 90% useless and grossly overpaid.
The ANC has systematically destroyed anything that worked efficiently in SA and it will take years to get back to any semblance of truly effective governance with the idiot cadres in place. All municipal and govt. employees need to be vetted for job knowledge, efficiency, effectiveness, competence, attitude and honesty to keep their job. Many will fail which means new people will have to be hired to replace them. It should also mean that with the right people in place the workforce could be cut by two thirds!
Wow! A new low 😢
The fumes of the English are powerful
Where have you been the last 3 weeks? Were you blocked by FB?
We’ve been here, releasing videos.
Wow, the Zimbos are bringing in a lot of foreign currency, hey. Hmmm, so impressive.
And Zim has almost no racism
Most Zimbos come into the country using the 90 days visitors visas and use truck drivers to renew them every 3 months. Stop abusing statistics, all those countries are growing from a low base. RSA's 1% in rand terms could equal Zimbabwe's 2500%. Only Nigeria and Egypt can compete with RSA.
You can actually hear that Zimbabweans sound more educated ...mistakenly we could put credit where once some had access to schooling and colonial influence.
Not entirely true, Zimbabweans had their own writing stemming from Egyptian hieroglyphics..
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🤣 we wuz kangz
If South Africa want to do better. Land Reform Mugabe style is the way.
Boere fight like devils. They will win.
What's the difference between a tourist and a racist?
About 3 hours.
DISMAL!!!
Oy vey I give uo
Good, So what Malema has been saying is actually right, let us also expropriate land and distribute it to everyone
Like Mugabe's daughter shared her 27 farms? 😂😂😂
Was his wife also steel land
Good for Zimbabwe, Black South Africans Should Do The Same.
It's a rainbow nation, inclusion means all colours ..sorry ne.
Agreed. However, if I look at the work ethic between South Africans and our neighbours, there is a stark contrast. The anc and eff have indoctrinated their followers to focus more on blaming others for their problems, than actually trying to be part of a solution. This won't change until the rot is removed at the top.
I came for this comment and it did not disappoint, its almost like you can guess that the 30%ers hot take would be of this.. lets steal the land, an African proverb 😂 truly the world retards
Yes they should run to Zimbabwe, it will solve 90% of the problems.
Hey what growth come be a citizen and see if you keep up with this bullshit.. who are you anyway
Either way after the 2024 elections we are expropriating land without compensating the dutch settlers.
Great. But what will you eat?
Your'e as much a settler as anybody else. The land belonged to the KhoiSan, not the refugees from central Africa.
If my grandparents were born here im not a "Dutch settler" am I? Good luck with the no compensation thing, you can take it up with the banks....
you mean expropriate the graveyards of those that tried.
what a fool. so eager to give up your freedom.
Zimbabwe has no medication at their clinics most of the population does not have electricity that is why they claim to have no loadshedding. Abject poverty everything is falling apart. The scattered nation.