Ryan Zhang the reason the keyboard isn't included is because there's a bunch of different colors for the keyboard but only one for the surface itself. This makes it easier to not run out of stock and whatnot.
The Surface Pro does the laptop thing better than the Surface Laptop. There's zero advantages that the laptop offers. Surface Laptop is the obsolete product here, not the Surface Pro.
Ved Patel Well the Surface is a full laptop, not a tablet, I don't see why people feel the need to compare two devices that aren't even meant for the same purpose
Dunno where you're getting $100 from. You can easily pick one up from $35~$45. As for the Surface, idk why people are confused about whether it's a laptop or a tablet. It's a god damn 2-in-1 system.
You're not sure, who uses the Surface Pro? I tell you: in my university (studying engineering) eeeverybody does everything with the surface pros and pens.
This is perfect for school. I use mine for that and also gaming with older games. Playing NFS underground 2 with my xbox controller on the plane is so fun.
Fut-MC king lmao that game is a joke it can at max settings not with high res texture packs though. how ever i can get space engineers running at 30fps at 720p, generally runs anything at low settings and 720p at around 25-30fps, project cars, sto, battlefield 1, i even think it ran the division too
The Surface Pro sits in a much better place than Surface Laptop. For STEM the combination of the Pen for mathematic notation writing/diagrams while note taking and full Windows Professional are what makes the Surface Laptop just another laptop that can't do those things well.
I've always loved the surface line up but Microsoft seems to be going down a slippery slope. No USB-C or thunderbolt is just mind boggling and their bundling options (no type cover/ pen with surface pro and windows 10S on surface laptop) is just a frustrating money grab. I think the surface line up should be the bar that microsoft sets for what a windows device should be but the lack of the latest hardware (USB-C/ Thunderbolt) is frustrating. These devices are also aimed for productivity so again why sell the surface pro without anything, no one buys it to just use it as a touch screen tablet that'd be a humongous waste. With the surface laptop why would you cripple users by defaulting the OS to be windows 10S even at the highest tier model. Such amazing devices but their marketing strategies just really puts you off from buying them.
That's the whole point, they want you to want them. The plan is to set the standard for the other hardware makers. In a few months, you are going to see computers that offer everything you want for a cheaper price than the surface pro (2015) ;)
Onfe It can become a Laptop but I just don't find Windows pleasing to use as a Laptop. Most programs where not designed with touch in mind, and I have yet to find a good note taking app. Neither PDF annotator nor OneNote are really good. On the iPad you can find GoodNotes, Notability and more. It has been around for longer. Maybe in two years people will have created good note taking apps for the Surface.
I always had a hard time knowing what was what with the Apple stuff... Wish they could just all keep with the numbering. It's already hard enough to search for specific models.
Skinipinis lol yeah that was so confusing when they released the Titan Xp, took a while to find charts to compare the Titan X(p) with Titan Xp and realize they actually did make something new :D
I disagree I think each device hits a different category. For those who want the "traditional Laptop" experience there's the Surface Laptop. For those who like using the Pen- artists, students, etc. The Surface Pro is a much better option. The Laptop doesn't have a good "writing experience". The Surface Pro is more those value mobility above all else.... The Surfacebook is the more premium device, whereas the Studio is the ultimate creators device. They each have their place, it just depends on what you prefer in terms of input method. If you use the pen Surface Pro and Book are your options. If you want the traditional laptop then the Surface Laptop is your thing. I prefer the Pro myself. I currently own a SURFACE 3 that I use everyday for work and it does a great job. The Surface Pro will be a great upgrade when I'm ready to purchase.
You would need to carry around your Surface charger if you wanted to charge all of your USB C devices. A normal phone charger won't be anywhere near powerful enough. It is the same situation for the Nintendo Switch. You can't use most battery banks to charge it because the Switch needs more juice.
Changiz K Baluch Did you just say that? Because all I see is people saying" the iPad Pro is better", "the Surface Pro sucks", "it doesn't come with the pencil so it sucks", "it doesn't have USB-C so it sucks".
Don't you dare say that Surface Pro doesn't belong anywhere. Microsoft got here because of all the people that WANT this product! I for one don't see the point of the Surface Laptop when there's the much better product out there.. the Surface Pro !
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I travel overseas a lot and I like to travel as light as possible. I bought the top of the line Surface Pro 4 a few days after Christmas 2015. It is by far my favorite asset. I cannot imagine my chaotic life without it.
The Surface Pro has been the best option for me as an illustrator and frequent writer and note-taker. The Laptop is awkward to write and draw on. The Studio is very expensive and not portable. And the Book is slightly more expensive, less easier to carry around, and harder to write on (with keyboard attached). So that's who the Surface Pro line is for: an artist or writer on the go with a decent budget.
Mingo To compare the ipad pro to the surface pro is pointeless, one's a tablet, one's a laptop (no one is going to a surface pro without a type cover). It would be fairer to campare the Surface pro to Wacom's mobile studio pro.
I got the Surface Pro 5 because it was on sale & I couldn't afford the laptop version. I got it as my only other computer outside my prepaid phone, to help with my channel & give me something to watch videos & Netflix, which I do most of my time even when multi-tasking, because I'm disabled & too sick to go out much. It helps to have an escape, since I got rid of my TV 5yrs ago! I'm who it's for!
My Surace Pro 3 was my best purchase for college. Small, compact, one note is excellent. I would keep the keyboard off and take pictures of slides, long math problems, and write all over them. When I got home I have a dock powering 2 1080p screens a keyboard and mouse. Today my surface pro 3 is still running strong with zero issues. Great purchase for students, and useful for the business man who wants portability and power.
For students in secondary school, I would recommend the Surface Laptop as it is stylish and has Windows 10 S which prevents you from running .exe files which helps avoid getting viruses on your laptop. For students in university and college or someone just looking for a good, solid laptop, I would recommend the new Surface Pro because it doesn't come with Windows 10 S so it can run applications that you might need for your course. It has good specs and a good design. I personally, am getting the new Surface Pro.
Having a tablet is really convenient in a lot of situations. It's just a lot more versatile and I've found myself using the Surface Pro in a lot of places (standing up while teaching, sitting on the bus, relaxing in bed, etc.) where a traditional laptop would be downright awkward.
"I don't know who should be picking one up...." ME! I picked up about thirty Surface Pro 4's for some of our executives in my office and they love them.
Laurent Beardsell It's $1299 for the 8gb RAM version (why is 4gb still an option?) plus $160 for the keyboard. Better off getting a laptop with the same specs and a separate tablet.
Then why not just use this tablet with laptop specs? This thing is light and thin. I can tell it gives u a better experience as a sp4 user. Now I just give my high end labtop to my friend and useing sp instead.
why the fuck would you buy a tablet for if youre not painting?? If you need a laptop for casual shit just get a regular laptop not this garbage tablet. (no keyboard, mouse, pen included)
Ali0The0King you clearly lack an understanding of Microsoft business/pricing strategy--if they make it cheaper, it will anger their PC partners (Dell, HP, etc). Not to mention you lack an understanding also onhow expensive it is to produce these things. mindless Apple hater is clearly mindless.
So I know Austin won't see this but if anyone scrolling through the comments comes across this, my argument for the surface pro is that it's perfect for school and most office work. The pen makes note taking almost fun, and the design makes it almost look like a high quality notepad. I currently use the surface pro 3 for school, and it's amazing
Hi I've used graphics tablets for the past 14 years. To everyone complaining about the added price of the pen, it is vastly improved upon the previous stylus. it actually rivals top end Wacom devices which is an incredible step in the right direction for people using this device for artwork. Again when it comes to the keyboard, a lot of people using this for art want something they can hold in their hands, and possibly just use a Bluetooth keyboard with. These are extras, that not everybody will need, so they don't need to come in the box.
Geez stop whinging about the keyboard and pen not being included. Just add the cost on when you purchase. Surely that's not too difficult. The reason they have them separate is because there's a range of colours to choose from. It's not the end of the world. Also, the improvements all round are actually quite substantial for people who want these devices - much longer battery life, much much better pen, and LTE support. A really good upgrade all round. You really show how out of touch you are when you say that you're not sure who Surface Pro is for. Surface Pro makes up 70% of all Surface devices sold, so evidently it's still the most popular form factor.
Kyle ipad sucks dude even the mys 2 local best buys tech heads said that they will rather stay with the surface pro 4 than any ipad. My boy bought a surface pro but was kinda iffy about it due to his version didn't came with key board and plenty of people told him even a random grandma said to keep that tablet because its the only premium style tablet to reach 3k resolution and 10× the stuff that any ipad can't never do. The best buy representatives even told my friend that if you buy a ipad you are basically getting the same bullshit since the previous incarnation like every incarnation of ipad with barely any innovation with no way to upgrade your hardware in no shape or form besides buying another yearly unchanged ipad. Sure the software doesn't rarely attracts virus like the others do but that doesn't mean its great because once your os for any apple product reach a certain cap for updates basically you are stuck and can't download anything until you get that update. And the only way to get that new update is to buy the same non innovative product that comes every year. And i had apple products too.
The Surface line is actually really well thought out. There is not a single device from any company that is 50% laptop 50% tablet perfectly, and even if there is physically one, either side of the experience would not be ideal (because the perfect tablet experience will only exist on a device that is 100% tablet and vice versa for laptops), so it is physically and conceptually impossible to build such a device. And Microsoft, the company who invented this convertible category, recognize it. So what they are doing is to have Surface Pro to be 70% tablet% 30 laptop and the Surface Book to be 70% laptop and 30% tablet, instead of trying to get the impossible balance as explained in the previous paragraph. The entire line up is now looking like: Surface Studio - Desktop Surface Laptop - Laptop Surface Pro - 70% Tablet 30% Laptop Surface Book - 70% Laptop 30% Tablet The only thing missing is mobile, in the form of the tablet or a phone, or a foldable, which is what Surface Phone is supposed to be. It would not make sense to build a pure tablet in Microsoft's eyes because 1. tablet is dead (except iPad) 2. windows is not a 100% tablet os.
this thing is absolutely not worth the insane price tag. maxed model is same price as a good macbook pro or razer blade pro or any other thin and light with better specs and lower price
magnat505 the problem is Microsoft has yet failed to define this machine. They want to advertise it as a very capable device. In reality, anybody who is buying this should not go for highest specs as the SCREEN SIZE, Keyboard, Ports, aren't really meant for POWER USE. It is for a person who is more comfortable with mobile apps for most of his work and sometimes needs a few, specific desktop applications at times. I do wish they would've put a USB TYPE C there.
Yes this is exactly what I use it for. I take notes with it in class (with the pen), I do my homework on it (with the pen), I can write papers, browse the web, etc. and it's just powerful enough to play games like Heroes of the Storm when I want to take a break from studying (I have the SP4 i5 model). When I get home, I dock it to a larger screen (or two), keyboard, and mouse for a more standard desktop experience. It is definitely the most useful electronic device I've ever owned. I love when I'm in the middle of class taking notes, and then I suddenly want to research something the professor just said. I flip over the keyboard, do a search, quickly find a couple links that look promising, and then flip the keyboard back underneath and just swap to the pages every now and then while I'm following the lecture and taking notes. And since I can do texting via Google Hangouts (I have Project Fi) I can even use the SP4 (and Type Cover) for texting, which is much more comfortable than writing with my phone. The only downside is OneNote (the Microsoft note-taking software) has some usability issues and occasional, but annoying bugs, and the battery doesn't last the entire 8-14 hours a day I spend on campus studying, so I need to spend at least some time tethered to a power outlet. Oh, I also had to recently get a warranty replacement since the Type Cover port just stopped working randomly, but from my research that's a fairly rare issue.
Hey Austin, at 3:09 you say the keyboard cover is made of (or feels like?) Alcantara. I hate to burst your bubble, but that material is just ultrasuede. Alcantara is literally just a name for ultrasuede the Italians came up with to make their cars sound more sophisticated. Just wanted to make sure you're properly informed!
I have a surface pro 4 and I'd have to say that these models (the tablet laptop things) are perfectly geared towards students. At school in class, I take the keyboard off and handwrite my notes with onenote, I get the handwritten note experience (also saves paper when teachers provide handouts, I can write on them in onenote) while also storing everything on my computer without carrying a ton of weight. I use the keyboard when typing obviously, but I also love to detach it and just watch youtube when I am at home. It's the best investment I've made.
It's a laptop. Always has been. Nobody complains that we call desktop computers computers even though they don't come with monitors. You can't use a desktop computer without a monitor, can you? Just like a desktop, the surface allows you to choose your keyboard. Already have a keyboard? Guess what..you can use it. Rather have a separate Bluetooth keyboard? Guess what, you don't have to pay for the Surface keyboard cover unless you want one. Rather use the pen and the onscreen keyboard when mobile and an ergonomic keyboard when you're at your desk. You get the idea. After 4 generations it's time to retire that old song and dance (:
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The kind of person who would pick a Surface Pro over the Laptop is most likely an artist who would make heavy use of the touch screen for digital paintings or a student who plans to use it as a digital notebook. I've been using the Surface Book for about a year now, and I can honestly say I never want to go back to using real notepads ever again.
I love the MacBook Pro's keyboard, it barely has any travel but it's so clicky and satisfying, I don't know why people hate on it, I'd take it over the surface keyboard any day.
I'm surprised that Microsoft let you do this really unbiased and open impression of their products. That's solid. And also thumbs up for you, this seemed like a really honest opinion with lots of well thought pros and cons at the same time. Thanks.
no i completely agree with him ive had surfaces sense day one and this laptop bullshit is a stupid waste of resources they should have been just waiting and selling older surface books and pros as a lower end model i feel like the laptop is a middle finger to the surface line, which gave them the ability to get back into the tech game so idk just my opinion.
It's a refresh people with Kaby Lake processor, longer battery life, better tilt mechanism and same base price as last gen. The surface pen probably had the most change with tilt support and more than 4000 points of pressure. I can understand why they didn't include the surface pen. If USB-C is not on the newer model (Pro 5?) then that's different. I'm not a fanboy, just stating the facts.
I'm living in the past along with everything I will plug into the new SP. Had my wireless mouse, external hard drives, etc etc been USBC now I'd be outraged. But nope none of them are.
YuiHirasawa I might be living in the past but in every electronics store that I've been in I've seen that 95% of all computer accessories are "living in the past" soooooooo... I was happy when they removed the optical drive because I never used it and it just took away internal space, but I use the "prehistoric" USB-A connector everyday.
The fact that this doesn't have at least one thunderbolt port is an absolute deal breaker. What a ridiculous oversight, not even one USB C port? Looks identical to the last one.
I still think that Surface Pro is a viable option for college students. Taking notes with keyboard off using the pen on most of your classes and then converting to full laptop for your powerpoint, excell or cad work.That's exactly how I roll and what I intended when I bought mine.
I don't agree with the decision to ditch the pen as standard, to me, the surface pro will always be the best device for college/University students. I had the original one and it was awesome for day to day tasks and note taking. It really does make more sense than a laptop if you have anything that needs to be handwritten.
I love my surface pro 4, with a M3 processor and 4gb of ram and it's surprisingly very powerful, I've pushed it pretty hard and never had any issues, my old laptop had a core i7 and 8gb of ddr4 and my surface eats it, even when gaming it out performs, there's more power than people realise
Hi Austin, I have a Surface 3 (non pro) and a Surface Book. I use them for note-taking as tablets with the pen and as laptops for essay work or long reports. I use them as either for Skype, browsing and other lighter tasks depending on the situation. I have never liked laptops as flexibility is the most important thing to me, and if I want a comfortable keyboard, mouse and display in a relatively inflexible design I will always go for the greater power per £ of a desktop. If I need mobility, I want full mobility, not only when I am sat down or at a table/ desk. That is where Surface Pro and Book stand compared to the laptop, for people who value flexibility on the go.
I think what I like about the Surface line is that they've developed it into a "what's best for you?" product. If you just want a regular laptop, get a Surface Laptop. If you want a tablet that can also be your main PC, then get a Surface Pro. Need a high-end laptop that can also be a tablet on the occasion you need it? Get a Surface Book. Graphics designer who needs everything regardless of cost? Surface Studio, for you. I think its s good strategy. Give options, but make them fairly clear categories, yet still with crossover between them. My opinion, of course!
The surface pro line is actually pretty useful for my studies. The lack of kickstands on the other products diminish the writing/drawing experience. However to not include the stylus and the keyboard is not a great move.
"It's not a tablet, it's a laptop -- keyboard not included"
Ryan Zhang the keyboard not included kinda makes it a tablet
Ryan Zhang the reason the keyboard isn't included is because there's a bunch of different colors for the keyboard but only one for the surface itself. This makes it easier to not run out of stock and whatnot.
Ryan Zhang I've never heard anybody call it this, but I call it the tabtop
I call it the laplet
Lappad
Hey guys, this is Surface Pro. Today we are checking out Austin.
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Hey Austin, this is guys
Hey Surface Pro, this is guys.Today we're checking out Austin
Y U SO DORKy?
Microsoft can't count.
Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10
Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One
Surface Pro 3, Surface Pro 4, Surface Pro 2017
this is greatness
Immablufox Except that they have a very valid reason to not name it Windows 9
Chris Bearne because 789
XHAD thanks sorry
win 7, win 8, win 8.1 (essentially win 9), win 10
The Surface Pro does the laptop thing better than the Surface Laptop. There's zero advantages that the laptop offers. Surface Laptop is the obsolete product here, not the Surface Pro.
BaileysBeads completely agree
and that's why the Laptop is offered specifically to schools, for learning things.
decentradical agreed for a cheaper price
"Microsoft pokes fun at Apple's iPad Pro"
*Charges $100 for their own stylus just like Apple*
Joshua Salem don't forget the type cover is $120
Ved Patel Not quite, iPad Pro's graphics is faster. And it's a tablet.
Ved Patel Well the Surface is a full laptop, not a tablet, I don't see why people feel the need to compare two devices that aren't even meant for the same purpose
Dunno where you're getting $100 from. You can easily pick one up from $35~$45. As for the Surface, idk why people are confused about whether it's a laptop or a tablet. It's a god damn 2-in-1 system.
Get a bluetooth keyboard instead
Hey guys, this is exhaustin'
good joke singhaling
Lmao, if you reply it 2 times it actually sound like it
what if that's what he's been saying all this time.
It's not 2014 anymore.
LOL
You're not sure, who uses the Surface Pro? I tell you: in my university (studying engineering) eeeverybody does everything with the surface pros and pens.
Manuel so this will do the job well? Thinking about picking one up, is there any thing i should keep in mind?
nit everyone is engineer ipad pro vs surface thats so yesterday they are both good device and does do the job in certain way
Surface Pro = Professionals, Apple = teen girls with Facebook
@@24yrukdesigner yes lol
@Raed Acc He's not wrong. Face the facts.
dont buy unless you plan to use it for school...
surfaces arent designed for gaming,
theyre designed for students
.....the people you addressing must be a special kind of stupid.
ZeckDoesStuff Looking for one to use for school but I can remote into my home PC and stream games off of that on downtime. win-win.
This is perfect for school. I use mine for that and also gaming with older games. Playing NFS underground 2 with my xbox controller on the plane is so fun.
Can it play minecraft well?
Fut-MC king lmao that game is a joke it can at max settings not with high res texture packs though. how ever i can get space engineers running at 30fps at 720p, generally runs anything at low settings and 720p at around 25-30fps, project cars, sto, battlefield 1, i even think it ran the division too
Who else wants "Building the Ultimate Nintendo Switch"?
Game Domain I'm pretty sure he has. not sure
i want my father to come back, personally.
I think it's too early. It takes time for weird accessories to come out.
Game Domain who else wants suicide
BOBlibob Fam your right 🤣🤣🤣
I enabled my surface pro to airplane mode i threw it it didint fly 😖😖😖
Did you adjust the angle of the kickstand for maximum lift? Yeah thought so!
h a h a h a t o t a l l y o r i g i n a l j o k e
that's a good 1
Subs Crash You need to download more fans!
2014 called, he wants his joke back
im just here to see the offended iPad owners
*grabs popcorn
and the offended macbook owners
*grabs large soda
teach me how to make popcorn lol
Bressan Franco i don't think they even care about this
grab money
go to movie
ask clerk for large popcorn
give money to clerk
don't forget the receipt
*puts on 3d glasses
The Surface Pro sits in a much better place than Surface Laptop. For STEM the combination of the Pen for mathematic notation writing/diagrams while note taking and full Windows Professional are what makes the Surface Laptop just another laptop that can't do those things well.
I've always loved the surface line up but Microsoft seems to be going down a slippery slope. No USB-C or thunderbolt is just mind boggling and their bundling options (no type cover/ pen with surface pro and windows 10S on surface laptop) is just a frustrating money grab. I think the surface line up should be the bar that microsoft sets for what a windows device should be but the lack of the latest hardware (USB-C/ Thunderbolt) is frustrating. These devices are also aimed for productivity so again why sell the surface pro without anything, no one buys it to just use it as a touch screen tablet that'd be a humongous waste. With the surface laptop why would you cripple users by defaulting the OS to be windows 10S even at the highest tier model. Such amazing devices but their marketing strategies just really puts you off from buying them.
That's the whole point, they want you to want them. The plan is to set the standard for the other hardware makers. In a few months, you are going to see computers that offer everything you want for a cheaper price than the surface pro (2015) ;)
I think next year we will see the USB-C version but still with Kaby Lake as Intel can't get their crap together.
$99 for a stylus, no keyboard, and stylus not included? I see what's going on here........🍎
I love my SP4 because it can become a tablet, which is amazing for taking handwritten notes in class, and the cover can just fold back.
it comes with the keyboard?
Onfe It can become a Laptop but I just don't find Windows pleasing to use as a Laptop. Most programs where not designed with touch in mind, and I have yet to find a good note taking app. Neither PDF annotator nor OneNote are really good.
On the iPad you can find GoodNotes, Notability and more. It has been around for longer. Maybe in two years people will have created good note taking apps for the Surface.
BrewNCode unfortunately not, yet most stores in the U.K. Sell it as a bundle with the keyboard. I picked up a surface and type cover used on eBay.
WuschelofDespair I can recommend drawboardPDF for note taking, I've found it works great for filling out pdf's and exam papers
are you in college or high school
Apple names new iPad iPad. Microsoft names new surface pro surface pro.
nvidia names new titan x titan x people call it titan xp to avoid confusion then nvidia releases titan xp
I always had a hard time knowing what was what with the Apple stuff... Wish they could just all keep with the numbering. It's already hard enough to search for specific models.
Skinipinis lol yeah that was so confusing when they released the Titan Xp, took a while to find charts to compare the Titan X(p) with Titan Xp and realize they actually did make something new :D
Seriously, what is the point of that is except make it hard to google stuff
John Dita 😹 no running number anymore.
maybe use year instead to indicate each model.
Wenger Out
Dharmil Doshi wenger out
Dharmil Doshi wenger in
😂
Maybe in 2 seasons pal
I'm a United fan we all want wenger in
I was reading an article about this as I get a notification for this.
Cool.
Also, STOP SAYING FIRST! NO ONE CARES!
2view, 39 likes!
no one cares
Pixel Breaker "stop saying first"
proceeds to explain that there are more likes than views
First
XHAD dont qorry when he unlocks it they will say first
first people are first to get fisted
I disagree I think each device hits a different category. For those who want the "traditional Laptop" experience there's the Surface Laptop. For those who like using the Pen- artists, students, etc. The Surface Pro is a much better option. The Laptop doesn't have a good "writing experience". The Surface Pro is more those value mobility above all else.... The Surfacebook is the more premium device, whereas the Studio is the ultimate creators device. They each have their place, it just depends on what you prefer in terms of input method. If you use the pen Surface Pro and Book are your options. If you want the traditional laptop then the Surface Laptop is your thing. I prefer the Pro myself. I currently own a SURFACE 3 that I use everyday for work and it does a great job. The Surface Pro will be a great upgrade when I'm ready to purchase.
No USB-C... *sigh*
Reinier A. Fuck USB-C i rather stay at original USB that Samsung or LG uses
Gamesatic i still use it + if i gwt USB-C all of my adapters are useless -.-
Another one doesn't grasp the reality of USB-C in it's current state.. sigh.
Right? It would be nice to have one charger for all my portable devices.
You would need to carry around your Surface charger if you wanted to charge all of your USB C devices. A normal phone charger won't be anywhere near powerful enough. It is the same situation for the Nintendo Switch. You can't use most battery banks to charge it because the Switch needs more juice.
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Matt " I C R E A T E D "
so many people have already made that joke it is now dead
fuck you mantan you gay
In Russia, guys call Austin.
Mantan hey Mantan this is Manthan
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Apple Pencil doesn't come with iPad and cost $99, people lose their shit. Surface pen $99 and doesn't come with the pen. Cricket...
Changiz K Baluch Did you just say that? Because all I see is people saying" the iPad Pro is better", "the Surface Pro sucks", "it doesn't come with the pencil so it sucks", "it doesn't have USB-C so it sucks".
Changiz K Baluch your an idiot, have you not seen anyone's opinion apart from your own. Stupid apple fanboys.
I think the Surface Pen is better than iPad's Pen, especially in precision.
you think but it's actually not apple pen is way better than surface pen
Ding Ding why
Why so shaky?! Who is your camera man? I have never seen such unsteady hands on your videos Austin.
Don't you dare say that Surface Pro doesn't belong anywhere. Microsoft got here because of all the people that WANT this product! I for one don't see the point of the Surface Laptop when there's the much better product out there.. the Surface Pro !
Is the processor inside the headphone jack
Austin loves apple stuff, to be fair he was prob a bit unsure what that hole was for.
im in love with your channel now that you are posting new videos every 2 days......you know it felt so sad when you used to say that I'll see you next time in the end of every video.....but now it feels good because i know that ill se you again after a day.....dude please keep up like this....you are awesome man!!!!!
I travel overseas a lot and I like to travel as light as possible. I bought the top of the line Surface Pro 4 a few days after Christmas 2015. It is by far my favorite asset. I cannot imagine my chaotic life without it.
Does it run windows 10 S-tupid edition?
Lukas Foukal Nope. Windows 10 Pro.
*Cough* ports *Cough*
What I don't like is.. the *Wallpaper*.
Bill Pii I think you just got r/woooosh-ed
Thank you for actually roasting this and not handling this like an ad since they flew you all the way out there...
The Surface Pro has been the best option for me as an illustrator and frequent writer and note-taker.
The Laptop is awkward to write and draw on. The Studio is very expensive and not portable. And the Book is slightly more expensive, less easier to carry around, and harder to write on (with keyboard attached).
So that's who the Surface Pro line is for: an artist or writer on the go with a decent budget.
After your joke about the iPad Pro, can you make a iPad Pro vs. Surface ? Maybe after the iPad Pro Update!
Mingo To compare the ipad pro to the surface pro is pointeless, one's a tablet, one's a laptop (no one is going to a surface pro without a type cover). It would be fairer to campare the Surface pro to Wacom's mobile studio pro.
Surface Pro is a 2-In-1 device (hybride), not just laptop.
0:28 that chuckle --apple got rekt
3:40 alright already evans. You're pretty jacked right now. You're making us all look fat! 😂
I got the Surface Pro 5 because it was on sale & I couldn't afford the laptop version. I got it as my only other computer outside my prepaid phone, to help with my channel & give me something to watch videos & Netflix, which I do most of my time even when multi-tasking, because I'm disabled & too sick to go out much. It helps to have an escape, since I got rid of my TV 5yrs ago! I'm who it's for!
Not worth upgrading from my Surface Pro 4
*Installs wannacry ransomware*
Wannacry is over for the most part, all versions of Windows from XP to 10 Creators Update has a patch for it
Princesses Are Awesome WannaCry will not work on the Surface Pro 2017
My Surace Pro 3 was my best purchase for college. Small, compact, one note is excellent. I would keep the keyboard off and take pictures of slides, long math problems, and write all over them. When I got home I have a dock powering 2 1080p screens a keyboard and mouse. Today my surface pro 3 is still running strong with zero issues. Great purchase for students, and useful for the business man who wants portability and power.
At a cinematic 24 fps: "Hey cinema, this is Austin."
For students in secondary school, I would recommend the Surface Laptop as it is stylish and has Windows 10 S which prevents you from running .exe files which helps avoid getting viruses on your laptop. For students in university and college or someone just looking for a good, solid laptop, I would recommend the new Surface Pro because it doesn't come with Windows 10 S so it can run applications that you might need for your course. It has good specs and a good design.
I personally, am getting the new Surface Pro.
Hah....no one in middle school..or “secondary school” can afford an at least 899$ laptop
hey austin this is guys
Having a tablet is really convenient in a lot of situations. It's just a lot more versatile and I've found myself using the Surface Pro in a lot of places (standing up while teaching, sitting on the bus, relaxing in bed, etc.) where a traditional laptop would be downright awkward.
4:43 The moment you can't find a way to make things better is the moment you have perfected it.
i know i am not the first comment
not the first like
not the first view
or the first subscriber
but have a good day!
jblflip you are also not the person that has to tell people "have a good day" because we totally don't get that comment 1000000000 times per video
one thing you do know is that you are the least annoying person in any youtube comment section :)
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Austin has done incredibly well for himself, a good role model I think.
"I don't know who should be picking one up...." ME! I picked up about thirty Surface Pro 4's for some of our executives in my office and they love them.
You're better off saving your money
For what, buying a 900-1000$ laptop + a 300-500$ tablet? no thanks
Laurent Beardsell It's $1299 for the 8gb RAM version (why is 4gb still an option?) plus $160 for the keyboard. Better off getting a laptop with the same specs and a separate tablet.
Then why not just use this tablet with laptop specs? This thing is light and thin. I can tell it gives u a better experience as a sp4 user. Now I just give my high end labtop to my friend and useing sp instead.
Always have been, when it comes to the surface line.
why the fuck would you buy a tablet for if youre not painting?? If you need a laptop for casual shit just get a regular laptop not this garbage tablet. (no keyboard, mouse, pen included)
microsoft is trying to be apple ..(making overpriced shit)
Ali0The0King for the price and engineering it's completely understandable, just because something is expensive doesn't mean it's overpriced
Ali0The0King
quality=more expensive
More expensive=more crybabies that can't afford it
Ali0The0King you clearly lack an understanding of Microsoft business/pricing strategy--if they make it cheaper, it will anger their PC partners (Dell, HP, etc). Not to mention you lack an understanding also onhow expensive it is to produce these things.
mindless Apple hater is clearly mindless.
Luis Navarro but it is still overpriced tho
Luis Navarro Just because something is expensive doesn't mean it's high quality or better.
So I know Austin won't see this but if anyone scrolling through the comments comes across this, my argument for the surface pro is that it's perfect for school and most office work.
The pen makes note taking almost fun, and the design makes it almost look like a high quality notepad. I currently use the surface pro 3 for school, and it's amazing
Hi I've used graphics tablets for the past 14 years. To everyone complaining about the added price of the pen, it is vastly improved upon the previous stylus. it actually rivals top end Wacom devices which is an incredible step in the right direction for people using this device for artwork. Again when it comes to the keyboard, a lot of people using this for art want something they can hold in their hands, and possibly just use a Bluetooth keyboard with. These are extras, that not everybody will need, so they don't need to come in the box.
Geez stop whinging about the keyboard and pen not being included. Just add the cost on when you purchase. Surely that's not too difficult. The reason they have them separate is because there's a range of colours to choose from. It's not the end of the world.
Also, the improvements all round are actually quite substantial for people who want these devices - much longer battery life, much much better pen, and LTE support. A really good upgrade all round.
You really show how out of touch you are when you say that you're not sure who Surface Pro is for. Surface Pro makes up 70% of all Surface devices sold, so evidently it's still the most popular form factor.
Surface Pro>IPad Pro
jerry belton ipad pro is cheaper and has better software, tbh any software is better than windows
Kyle Lmao are you joking?
Kyle ipad sucks dude even the mys 2 local best buys tech heads said that they will rather stay with the surface pro 4 than any ipad. My boy bought a surface pro but was kinda iffy about it due to his version didn't came with key board and plenty of people told him even a random grandma said to keep that tablet because its the only premium style tablet to reach 3k resolution and 10× the stuff that any ipad can't never do.
The best buy representatives even told my friend that if you buy a ipad you are basically getting the same bullshit since the previous incarnation like every incarnation of ipad with barely any innovation with no way to upgrade your hardware in no shape or form besides buying another yearly unchanged ipad. Sure the software doesn't rarely attracts virus like the others do but that doesn't mean its great because once your os for any apple product reach a certain cap for updates basically you are stuck and can't download anything until you get that update. And the only way to get that new update is to buy the same non innovative product that comes every year. And i had apple products too.
jerry belton both sucks
Kyle isheep
The Surface line is actually really well thought out. There is not a single device from any company that is 50% laptop 50% tablet perfectly, and even if there is physically one, either side of the experience would not be ideal (because the perfect tablet experience will only exist on a device that is 100% tablet and vice versa for laptops), so it is physically and conceptually impossible to build such a device. And Microsoft, the company who invented this convertible category, recognize it.
So what they are doing is to have Surface Pro to be 70% tablet% 30 laptop and the Surface Book to be 70% laptop and 30% tablet, instead of trying to get the impossible balance as explained in the previous paragraph. The entire line up is now looking like:
Surface Studio - Desktop
Surface Laptop - Laptop
Surface Pro - 70% Tablet 30% Laptop
Surface Book - 70% Laptop 30% Tablet
The only thing missing is mobile, in the form of the tablet or a phone, or a foldable, which is what Surface Phone is supposed to be. It would not make sense to build a pure tablet in Microsoft's eyes because 1. tablet is dead (except iPad) 2. windows is not a 100% tablet os.
The stand always felt super awkward to me. If I had the money I'd go straight for the beauty that is the Surface Laptop.
this thing is absolutely not worth the insane price tag. maxed model is same price as a good macbook pro or razer blade pro or any other thin and light with better specs and lower price
magnat505 no idea why someone would buy this
magnat505
engineering and screen is what makes it expensive
magnat505 the problem is Microsoft has yet failed to define this machine. They want to advertise it as a very capable device. In reality, anybody who is buying this should not go for highest specs as the SCREEN SIZE, Keyboard, Ports, aren't really meant for POWER USE.
It is for a person who is more comfortable with mobile apps for most of his work and sometimes needs a few, specific desktop applications at times.
I do wish they would've put a USB TYPE C there.
Yes this is exactly what I use it for. I take notes with it in class (with the pen), I do my homework on it (with the pen), I can write papers, browse the web, etc. and it's just powerful enough to play games like Heroes of the Storm when I want to take a break from studying (I have the SP4 i5 model). When I get home, I dock it to a larger screen (or two), keyboard, and mouse for a more standard desktop experience. It is definitely the most useful electronic device I've ever owned. I love when I'm in the middle of class taking notes, and then I suddenly want to research something the professor just said. I flip over the keyboard, do a search, quickly find a couple links that look promising, and then flip the keyboard back underneath and just swap to the pages every now and then while I'm following the lecture and taking notes.
And since I can do texting via Google Hangouts (I have Project Fi) I can even use the SP4 (and Type Cover) for texting, which is much more comfortable than writing with my phone. The only downside is OneNote (the Microsoft note-taking software) has some usability issues and occasional, but annoying bugs, and the battery doesn't last the entire 8-14 hours a day I spend on campus studying, so I need to spend at least some time tethered to a power outlet. Oh, I also had to recently get a warranty replacement since the Type Cover port just stopped working randomly, but from my research that's a fairly rare issue.
magnat505 better specs and price on a mac? Yeah right.
1:45 New Surface Laptop looks waaaayyy better.
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Austin, your videos are awesome. 2nd favorite youtuber of 2017
Ill wait for the inedible "Buy a Surface Pro, get a free surface pen or type cover" deal they usually pull around Black Friday.
Who has the surface 4?
me, though im selling it for a macbook air
Ngl it sucks after the bug that messed up the screen
**insert "insert witty comment here" comment here that will inevitably get a large amount of likes due to this generations strange sense of humor.**
Zain Dhanani You're the one trying to be witty here
500 subscribers with no videos? thatsthejoke.jpg
Zain Dhanani you forgot the final asterisk
Psyconic LT actually, I do have likes so you're wrong.
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Hey Austin, at 3:09 you say the keyboard cover is made of (or feels like?) Alcantara. I hate to burst your bubble, but that material is just ultrasuede. Alcantara is literally just a name for ultrasuede the Italians came up with to make their cars sound more sophisticated. Just wanted to make sure you're properly informed!
I have a surface pro 4 and I'd have to say that these models (the tablet laptop things) are perfectly geared towards students. At school in class, I take the keyboard off and handwrite my notes with onenote, I get the handwritten note experience (also saves paper when teachers provide handouts, I can write on them in onenote) while also storing everything on my computer without carrying a ton of weight. I use the keyboard when typing obviously, but I also love to detach it and just watch youtube when I am at home. It's the best investment I've made.
It's a laptop. Always has been. Nobody complains that we call desktop computers computers even though they don't come with monitors. You can't use a desktop computer without a monitor, can you? Just like a desktop, the surface allows you to choose your keyboard. Already have a keyboard? Guess what..you can use it. Rather have a separate Bluetooth keyboard? Guess what, you don't have to pay for the Surface keyboard cover unless you want one. Rather use the pen and the onscreen keyboard when mobile and an ergonomic keyboard when you're at your desk. You get the idea. After 4 generations it's time to retire that old song and dance (:
that made no sense at all.
Wtf was that
Laptops usually comewith keyboard buddy
see a apple fan boy shameless try windows
Hi, I really like your videos man awesome job, a small thought regarding your thumbnails is that when I go to my subscriptions page and start opening all the videos I want to watch (and every time you upload one I watch it) a lot of times I just skip over yours because there's no like symbol or something to pop up and just click on it. hope this is helpful, keep up the awesome work
Y'all remember the "I really want a surface pro 3" around Christmas time a few years ago?
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1. He said that Microsoft sent him there to take a look
2. He mentioned multiple negatives
alligi gamer 3. Has to legally disclose if it's a paid review (if he doesn't want to pay a fine).
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Eric JH Li cause it's in Shanghai
The kind of person who would pick a Surface Pro over the Laptop is most likely an artist who would make heavy use of the touch screen for digital paintings or a student who plans to use it as a digital notebook.
I've been using the Surface Book for about a year now, and I can honestly say I never want to go back to using real notepads ever again.
just because mini display is outdated doesn't mean it isn't used in pretty much every school in the US for presentations in class.
Max my school doesn't have any of those ports and we have hundreds of devices
Stuffy Pancake every single MacBook has one, at least at my highschool they do do we need a mac adapter from VGA to that port
I love the MacBook Pro's keyboard, it barely has any travel but it's so clicky and satisfying, I don't know why people hate on it, I'd take it over the surface keyboard any day.
Sfad Hjkl it's opinion based, I hate the mac keyboard, but that's just me
Windows 8.2
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It's running the windows 10 s, but I call it windows 8.2
so what
because its natural shit
it's not running windows 10 s but windows 10 pro...
3:36 - 3:42 it seems Austin had suddenly become a reporter in his own studio
"you can just… you know… not use the kickstand" 😂
Less than 10 views club
hi Austin please come to Toronto Canada
Aqsam Chaudhary great now I can stalk u 😂😂😂😂
jk
I'm surprised that Microsoft let you do this really unbiased and open impression of their products. That's solid. And also thumbs up for you, this seemed like a really honest opinion with lots of well thought pros and cons at the same time. Thanks.
Here I am with my Lenovo Miix 510 since I couldn't be bothered to wait for this thing. Then again, I don't think I'm missing much.
Microsoft is making stupid moves I don't agree with them
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Yameen Tazwar fuck off
no i completely agree with him ive had surfaces sense day one and this laptop bullshit is a stupid waste of resources they should have been just waiting and selling older surface books and pros as a lower end model i feel like the laptop is a middle finger to the surface line, which gave them the ability to get back into the tech game so idk just my opinion.
It is still a tablet...
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I thought that the red part of laptop really heats up, and thats why its red in the thumbnail. xDDDD
It's a refresh people with Kaby Lake processor, longer battery life, better tilt mechanism and same base price as last gen. The surface pen probably had the most change with tilt support and more than 4000 points of pressure. I can understand why they didn't include the surface pen. If USB-C is not on the newer model (Pro 5?) then that's different.
I'm not a fanboy, just stating the facts.
Thank god that they didn't put that stupid USB-C connector!
ImpiantoFacile You are living in the past. They need to remove those old ports as soon as possible .
ImpiantoFacile What's so bad about usb-c?
I'm living in the past along with everything I will plug into the new SP. Had my wireless mouse, external hard drives, etc etc been USBC now I'd be outraged. But nope none of them are.
YuiHirasawa satire. you don't get it.
YuiHirasawa I might be living in the past but in every electronics store that I've been in I've seen that 95% of all computer accessories are "living in the past" soooooooo...
I was happy when they removed the optical drive because I never used it and it just took away internal space, but I use the "prehistoric" USB-A connector everyday.
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Yash Baleri same
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PissedOffHoneyBadger yeah
Toby The Toaster I've been using the same one for the past year, not really working anymore.
Gotta get a new one
i mean, laying in bed would you rather have the surface pro or the surface laptop with the keyboard sticking out
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first ( no one cares )
Your right. No one does care.
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He's proud
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The fact that this doesn't have at least one thunderbolt port is an absolute deal breaker. What a ridiculous oversight, not even one USB C port? Looks identical to the last one.
"but what cool about this" Austin every video lately
I actually really like the keyboard on the 2016 MacBook Pro. It feels much sturdier, clickier, and nicer than the 2015 one and most other laptops.
I still think that Surface Pro is a viable option for college students. Taking notes with keyboard off using the pen on most of your classes and then converting to full laptop for your powerpoint, excell or cad work.That's exactly how I roll and what I intended when I bought mine.
I don't agree with the decision to ditch the pen as standard, to me, the surface pro will always be the best device for college/University students. I had the original one and it was awesome for day to day tasks and note taking. It really does make more sense than a laptop if you have anything that needs to be handwritten.
im holding back tears............ this video
is so powerful
I love my surface pro 4, with a M3 processor and 4gb of ram and it's surprisingly very powerful, I've pushed it pretty hard and never had any issues, my old laptop had a core i7 and 8gb of ddr4 and my surface eats it, even when gaming it out performs, there's more power than people realise
Hi Austin, I have a Surface 3 (non pro) and a Surface Book. I use them for note-taking as tablets with the pen and as laptops for essay work or long reports. I use them as either for Skype, browsing and other lighter tasks depending on the situation. I have never liked laptops as flexibility is the most important thing to me, and if I want a comfortable keyboard, mouse and display in a relatively inflexible design I will always go for the greater power per £ of a desktop. If I need mobility, I want full mobility, not only when I am sat down or at a table/ desk. That is where Surface Pro and Book stand compared to the laptop, for people who value flexibility on the go.
I think what I like about the Surface line is that they've developed it into a "what's best for you?" product. If you just want a regular laptop, get a Surface Laptop. If you want a tablet that can also be your main PC, then get a Surface Pro. Need a high-end laptop that can also be a tablet on the occasion you need it? Get a Surface Book. Graphics designer who needs everything regardless of cost? Surface Studio, for you.
I think its s good strategy. Give options, but make them fairly clear categories, yet still with crossover between them. My opinion, of course!
Austin killing them bench press.
The surface pro line is actually pretty useful for my studies. The lack of kickstands on the other products diminish the writing/drawing experience.
However to not include the stylus and the keyboard is not a great move.