Thank God for this day & this show I lived in shame & guilt for over 30 years. God had already started to heal me about a month ago by making me aware of what was happening and then He blessed me to hear this show! Thank you so much for allowing God to use you to help me see myself even further! Thank You!!! ❤
Thank you for speaking these truths! Thank you for your transparency, Lysa! You are such a blessing! May you experience the blessings of God in your life!
Thank you for sharing the shame you eld for your abortion. I just want others who maybe reading this to know that free help is available. Pregnancy Resource Centers everywhere offer free post abortion counseling.
Wow! This is the best session yet. Truly potentially life-changing wisdom here because it comes from The Word and people steeping in His presence. I sent this link to my Celebrate Recovery Ministry leader, my sponsor, my sponsees, my accountability partners, and my children. There are not words enough to adequately thank you for serving our Father God in this way.
This is excellent. Every denomination should have this support. Best of theology and psychology. I wish my Catholic denomination would have more of this. Thank you.
THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART‼This particular podcast brought so many confirmation, clarity and insight to my own situation that worth above and beyond second spent listening to it...THANK WARRIORS‼🔥💥☄
I love the 3 of you and cant get enough of these ! Please make more. It's remarkable how much insight I get listening to these! ❤ Gotta rename y'all.... "Therapy, Theology and the Thinker" Yes Lysa is a deep thinker! If she wasn't, she couldnt bring the truth of The Word to life, for the rest of us!
Thank you so much Lisa, Joel and Jim.If the root of addiction is shame, God's answer is that we are to be rooted and grounded in Love. I used to know this, deeply. God brought me from the uttermost to the uttermost; from used and abused, crying on the doorsteps of a church, to speaking at the podium and conferences and teaching and leading from His Holy Word, by His Holy Spirit. But when one tragic event after another occurred, I drifted, lost in the trauma, barely breathing for lengths of time. Reaching for relief from the very physical pain, brought me to my knees again and again and again. I spoke recently for a dearly loved sister in Christ, who called me afterward to let me know of her grave concern, because I spoke from a dark place. The light of His redemptive power was muted from the stage that night. I was very tired, but the real problem was a revived sense of shame, rather than His wholly restorative Love, which she'd heard from me years prior. I cannot thank you enough for these broadcasts. "Return to saturate in My Word," I hear Him say. Thank you.
such a brilliant teaching + especially the combination of Theology with Counselling and personal experiences. I had so many "aha moments" when you shared about what shame does to the mind. It is sooo brilliant that I had to listen twice and surely will listen again + recommend this teaching. Thanks for sharing these helpful insights + mainly for all your efforts and research + all inputs you have given to make this such a relevant + helpful video.
I am so blessed to have found ur channel I am a trained therapist but currently bk in therapy for so much past trauma. I am also in Faith & have struggled with the repressed memories & addiction. I am finding renewed hope. Getting support &have ended my relationship with alcohol. I am healing and ur conversation has made so much sense of me. Thank you☺️❤️🙏
Wow Lysa I had no idea we had so much in common! Thanks for being so transparent! I to had an abortion and have been healing for years now, I am now trying to start my own abortion recovery ministry!
I love these!!!! Please make this permanent!! This is an on-time work and I love the title. I have often wondered why we as Christians cannot mix I therapy in theology. I divorced a narcissist after 16 painful years of marriage the last 6 years he has worked to alienate our daughter from me and 10 days ago I called the police and had her taken from my home. Well-meaning friends site biblical platitudes that only serve to increase my shame and make me feel that I'm not a good Christian because I doubt that God is really here for me. I have prayed and I have fasted and I have been the bigger person and I dealt with emotional abuse for 16 years and then another six years after the divorce. I'm living the Jobe existence and wondering what else God is going to allow the enemy to take from me. I am in counseling with a wonderful Christian counselor but this is hard day after day. I've purchased this devotion to have something tangible to look at and to clean too and to walk me through these really dark days. Thank you Lysa and proverbs 31 Ministries
Father, you are the God who sees, El Roi! Wrap your infinite arms of Love around your daughter and heal her broken heart. Restore her soul! Bring the comfort of reassurance to Zechariah 4:6, that "You are there'! Refresh her Holy Spirit!! Restore her daughter back to loving connection with her. Reveal wisdom and understanding as she keeps her eyes on you and not the circumstances ....as hard as that is for us humans. Bless her~ In Jesus mighty name...AMEN!
@@zechariah4663 🤗 I am in a very similar situation. I get your pain. It's real. The enemy wants our eyes OFF of our magnificent, mighty JESUS. Just take His hand and let Him walk with you! It's not by might, nor by power but by His Spirit (❤ that verse!)...THAT Is your blessed assurance and assignment of faith, that can be relied upon 🤗 SHALOM ALEICHEM !!
@@Thankful305 This was the verse God gave me when I cried out to him at the ending of my marriage. I asked him how in the world I was going to do this. How was I going to escape this abuse. I was not very familiar with my Bible but I heard not by power nor by might. I then went to Google and did a search and this is what I found. I need him to answer me like he did back then
Thank you for tuning in, friend. We're glad these have helped you! Be sure to subscribe to the channel so you can be notified of new episodes as soon as they release!
Thank you Joel for all your deep studies of ancient cultures. It really helps me to understand the scriptures within their context and increases my faith. Thanks for digging these things up and sharing it with us👍👍👍
I recall when I was young and gave myself away before I was married I recall my eyes felt like I literally put on a new pair of glasses LITERALLY I felt grown up and I know now it was pride I heard clearly “ now u know how Adam and Eve felt when they sobbed in the garden “ Years later I revisited that and challenged that statement and said to the enemy “ you want to go there ok let’s see how God the Father covered me and cursed u!” My point is it’s not to make excuses for my sin but it was very much about my lack of understanding of Gods redemption Love and provision And he the enemy continued the process of the deception of garden
If only I trusted people. I spent 30 years trying to stay married to an abusive liar. I finally left the abuse. I call everyday a vacation. I always regret being around people…….I tell them things and regret it later.
Psalm 51 LOVE LOVE LOVE …Exit RMP to HOLY TRINTY 🕊✝️🕊 inner HEAVEN Every single word you have spoken …Is a LIFE GIVING HEALTHY HUMAN CONNECTION …AMEN WHOM the SON ✝️ has SET FREE is TRULY FREE indeed …AMEN
Please pray for my teen son who seems to be running and making bad choices. His bio dad wasn’t in his life. He is staying away from a loving family and hanging around bad influences. Me as his mom am worried about this path he is on.
Hi. My family and I went through the same thing with my brother. Surround your son with prayer, the most powerful weapon. Always ask The Holy Spirit to lead your prayers. And whatever comes, make sure your son knows you love him ❤️
Remember prayer is action and is powerful. Roman 8:28 God can use all things for good. Your son's and your painful experiences can make you stronger and to show us how dependent we are on our heavenly father.
Thank you for these wonderful series,l appreciate it all so much and you all complent each other in the beautiful dance and flow of what you have to give from your roles and giftings.may I ask the theologian pleas why in Ephesians sometimes the deity was called Diana and sometimes Artemis.i received some ministry once for an informative influence concerning my tendency to seek knowledge through excessive reading,amongst the other associations with the deity of Ephesians combined then with a somewhat spirit of independence.lfelt grateful as always do at God,s revelation but bewildered,hurt and embarrassed at my counselors annoyance with me as l perceived it ,that as a Christian of a long time it should not have been necessary.they seemed exasperated and disappointed that it be so, in my spiritual journey. This may have been my perception.as I said I was surprised, hurt and bewildered.during the following week,I would dissociately become like a little child and give out an involuntary cry,mummy. Iws unwellfor about 2 months after.as an adult I knew intellectually there were some things mentioned that I knew were generational and thought they had been already dealt with,hence my surprise,but they did not know that. Is this an example of child deep trauma emerging in my subsequent responses and illness. God is always ministering into our deepest heart places in his tender and unfathomable love, constantly bringing us along out of true and false shame, reshaping us again and again eternally into his beautiful image .all praise and glory be to him in Christ Jesus.
Maybe I don't understand this subject fully, but shame is not all negative; surely to repent is to accept reproach for the wickedness of our actions, and that obviously involves a level if shame. This makes the words of Jesus understandable when he said, unless you hate yourself, you cannot be my disciple
@@suefagan7528 Your certainly missing the mark! Hate our sin? Sounds like ownership. We are to hate all sin: GOD does. If you have sin, you are in a state of rebellion and lost. The idea that you can have any sin and be in fellowship with GOD is antichrist.
@@stevedavies8703 ok Steve. Well I'm not trying to get you worked up but give me chapter and verse where Jesus says unless you hate YOURSELF you cannot be my disciple.
The self we are to hate is the one we were before Christ made us new. That self, not the justified being sanctified self who lives because Christ lives in me, is the self to hate. I had to hate her to let her go. I had to hate her for spending so long thinking she could solve her own problems. I had to hate her pride and ego to surrender completely. Years down the line now I see her with the compassion that our Father God obviously had toward me in order to pursue me and adopt me. I still struggle with rebellion around food and exercise which are the sins of gluttony and sloth. Yet I know that I am loved in the same way, but exponentially better, that I have continued to love my children in their rebellion, when they were doing things that I knew were harmful. I don’t hate myself now because myself is in Christ, being perfected (with much stumbling) until the day when I see Christ’s face and He will finish me perfectly in that moment.
So by design, how can we claim the we are children of a good and capable god when 2/3 od our brain systems are incapable to respond adequately to external threat ?🤔
Conviction is the cry of a baby saying its diaper needs changing. Condemnation is the diaper rash that results after not dealing with the mess, whether big or small.
That is not a shaming truth, just truth. Because we are genetically connected to Adam and Eve, their sin is passed to us. A newborn seems innocent. Watch that infant become a toddler. Mine and No are among first words. Mine is our inherent inherited self-centeredness. No is our inherent inherited rebellion against authority. The ultimate authority is God. Rebellion against God is sin. Thus we come to the truth that we are born sinful.
You have a man made believe system. The above interview is rubbish they are earning money that is their living keeping the negative narrative of living in this world going. Ask yourself if there's life for ever after why do we spend billions on keeping people alive You couldn't make it up or could you!
Thank God for this day & this show I lived in shame & guilt for over 30 years. God had already started to heal me about a month ago by making me aware of what was happening and then He blessed me to hear this show! Thank you so much for allowing God to use you to help me see myself even further! Thank You!!! ❤
We’re so glad you enjoyed this!
Beautifully stated. Thank you all so much! God never wastes our pain. Keep healing Lysa!
Thank you for watching, Nikki!
Thank you for speaking these truths! Thank you for your transparency, Lysa! You are such a blessing! May you experience the blessings of God in your life!
Thank you for sharing the shame you eld for your abortion. I just want others who maybe reading this to know that free help is available. Pregnancy Resource Centers everywhere offer free post abortion counseling.
Wow! This is the best session yet. Truly potentially life-changing wisdom here because it comes from The Word and people steeping in His presence.
I sent this link to my Celebrate Recovery Ministry leader, my sponsor, my sponsees, my accountability partners, and my children.
There are not words enough to adequately thank you for serving our Father God in this way.
This is excellent. Every denomination should have this support. Best of theology and psychology. I wish my Catholic denomination would have more of this. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Beautiful lesson it helped me to me so much in understanding shame. And good guilt. Thank you so… much🌺
THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART‼This particular podcast brought so many confirmation, clarity and insight to my own situation that worth above and beyond second spent listening to it...THANK WARRIORS‼🔥💥☄
Thank you Lord so happy for you all!!
27:21 thank you. Praising God for your ministry to us
Thank you!
I love the 3 of you and cant get enough of these ! Please make more.
It's remarkable how much insight I get listening to these! ❤
Gotta rename y'all....
"Therapy, Theology and the Thinker"
Yes Lysa is a deep thinker! If she wasn't, she couldnt bring the truth of The Word to life, for the rest of us!
Thank you for the encouragement, friend!
I love this idea 🎉
Thank you so much Lisa, Joel and Jim.If the root of addiction is shame, God's answer is that we are to be rooted and grounded in Love. I used to know this, deeply. God brought me from the uttermost to the uttermost; from used and abused, crying on the doorsteps of a church, to speaking at the podium and conferences and teaching and leading from His Holy Word, by His Holy Spirit. But when one tragic event after another occurred, I drifted, lost in the trauma, barely breathing for lengths of time. Reaching for relief from the very physical pain, brought me to my knees again and again and again. I spoke recently for a dearly loved sister in Christ, who called me afterward to let me know of her grave concern, because I spoke from a dark place. The light of His redemptive power was muted from the stage that night. I was very tired, but the real problem was a revived sense of shame, rather than His wholly restorative Love, which she'd heard from me years prior. I cannot thank you enough for these broadcasts. "Return to saturate in My Word," I hear Him say. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing your story with us, friend. We're so glad this video was helpful to you!
such a brilliant teaching + especially the combination of Theology with Counselling and personal experiences. I had so many "aha moments" when you shared about what shame does to the mind. It is sooo brilliant that I had to listen twice and surely will listen again + recommend this teaching. Thanks for sharing these helpful insights + mainly for all your efforts and research + all inputs you have given to make this such a relevant + helpful video.
Thanks for watching!
Love you Three , and you have blessed me so much
Thank you💖 🍀🐇🌷have a lovely Easter Sunday.
I am so blessed to have found ur channel
I am a trained therapist but currently bk in therapy for so much past trauma. I am also in Faith & have struggled with the repressed memories & addiction.
I am finding renewed hope. Getting support &have ended my relationship with alcohol.
I am healing and ur conversation has made so much sense of me.
Thank you☺️❤️🙏
Thank you so much.....this has really ministered to me.....just felt His Spirit throughout all this session !
Wow Lysa I had no idea we had so much in common! Thanks for being so transparent! I to had an abortion and have been healing for years now, I am now trying to start my own abortion recovery ministry!
Thank you for sharing what's on your heart, friend!
I love these!!!!
Please make this permanent!!
This is an on-time work and I love the title. I have often wondered why we as Christians cannot mix I therapy in theology. I divorced a narcissist after 16 painful years of marriage the last 6 years he has worked to alienate our daughter from me and 10 days ago I called the police and had her taken from my home. Well-meaning friends site biblical platitudes that only serve to increase my shame and make me feel that I'm not a good Christian because I doubt that God is really here for me. I have prayed and I have fasted and I have been the bigger person and I dealt with emotional abuse for 16 years and then another six years after the divorce. I'm living the Jobe existence and wondering what else God is going to allow the enemy to take from me. I am in counseling with a wonderful Christian counselor but this is hard day after day. I've purchased this devotion to have something tangible to look at and to clean too and to walk me through these really dark days. Thank you Lysa and proverbs 31 Ministries
Father, you are the God who sees, El Roi!
Wrap your infinite arms of Love around your daughter and heal her broken heart. Restore her soul! Bring the comfort of reassurance to Zechariah 4:6, that "You are there'! Refresh her Holy Spirit!!
Restore her daughter back to loving connection with her. Reveal wisdom and understanding as she keeps her eyes on you and not the circumstances ....as hard as that is for us humans. Bless her~ In Jesus mighty name...AMEN!
@@Thankful305
Thank you😭😭😭😭😭
@@zechariah4663 🤗
I am in a very similar situation. I get your pain. It's real.
The enemy wants our eyes OFF of our magnificent, mighty JESUS.
Just take His hand and let Him walk with you!
It's not by might, nor by power but by His Spirit (❤ that verse!)...THAT Is your blessed assurance and assignment of faith, that can be relied upon 🤗
SHALOM ALEICHEM !!
@@Thankful305
This was the verse God gave me when I cried out to him at the ending of my marriage. I asked him how in the world I was going to do this. How was I going to escape this abuse. I was not very familiar with my Bible but I heard not by power nor by might. I then went to Google and did a search and this is what I found. I need him to answer me like he did back then
Thank you for tuning in, friend. We're glad these have helped you! Be sure to subscribe to the channel so you can be notified of new episodes as soon as they release!
Thank you Joel for all your deep studies of ancient cultures. It really helps me to understand the scriptures within their context and increases my faith. Thanks for digging these things up and sharing it with us👍👍👍
Thanks for watching!
This is absolutely fantastic video filled with so much wisdom 🙌
Thanks for watching!
I recall when I was young and gave myself away before I was married
I recall my eyes felt like I literally put on a new pair of glasses LITERALLY
I felt grown up and I know now it was pride
I heard clearly “ now u know how Adam and Eve felt when they sobbed in the garden “
Years later I revisited that and challenged that statement and said to the enemy “ you want to go there ok let’s see how God the Father covered me and cursed u!” My point is it’s not to make excuses for my sin but it was very much about my lack of understanding of Gods redemption Love and provision
And he the enemy continued the process of the deception of garden
Beautiful states Mellissa!
I love this program, God so put you all together, thank y'all for hearts!
Thanks for watching!
Yes, y'all have really helped me!!
Ty for everything ☺️🙏❤️
Thanks for watching!
I have so much to say but I think thank you so much sums it up
We're glad these have helped you, Tracy!
If only I trusted people. I spent 30 years trying to stay married to an abusive liar. I finally left the abuse. I call everyday a vacation. I always regret being around people…….I tell them things and regret it later.
great job as always.Good guilt( sorrow)
Wow..... so powerful and informative. Thank you so much for this incredible resource ❤️
We're glad this was helpful to you, Courtney!
Psalm 51 LOVE LOVE LOVE …Exit RMP to HOLY TRINTY 🕊✝️🕊 inner HEAVEN
Every single word you have spoken …Is a
LIFE GIVING HEALTHY HUMAN CONNECTION …AMEN
WHOM the SON ✝️ has SET FREE is TRULY FREE indeed …AMEN
Thanks for this Beautiful message 🙏🏽
Thanks for watching, friend!
Thank you! I needed to hear this!
We're glad this was helpful for you, Patty!
Please pray for my teen son who seems to be running and making bad choices. His bio dad wasn’t in his life. He is staying away from a loving family and hanging around bad influences. Me as his mom am worried about this path he is on.
Hi. My family and I went through the same thing with my brother. Surround your son with prayer, the most powerful weapon. Always ask The Holy Spirit to lead your prayers. And whatever comes, make sure your son knows you love him ❤️
Remember prayer is action and is powerful. Roman 8:28 God can use all things for good. Your son's and your painful experiences can make you stronger and to show us how dependent we are on our heavenly father.
Thank you for sharing, friend. We're praying for your son!
BN, I’m praying for you and your family right now.
This was such a powerful and conversation. Thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Beautiful truth!
Thanks for listening!
@@OfficialProverbs31Ministries My pleasure!!! Awesome truths!
So good! Thank you
Thank you for watching!
Thank you so much for this. Helps especially the post of this which is spoken
Self
Hatred
At
My
Expense
Jim's insight is so helpful!
You for this video❤
Thank you for these wonderful series,l appreciate it all so much and you all complent each other in the beautiful dance and flow of what you have to give from your roles and giftings.may I ask the theologian pleas why in Ephesians sometimes the deity was called Diana and sometimes Artemis.i received some ministry once for an informative influence concerning my tendency to seek knowledge through excessive reading,amongst the other associations with the deity of Ephesians combined then with a somewhat spirit of independence.lfelt grateful as always do at God,s revelation but bewildered,hurt and embarrassed at my counselors annoyance with me as l perceived it ,that as a Christian of a long time it should not have been necessary.they seemed exasperated and disappointed that it be so, in my spiritual journey. This may have been my perception.as I said I was surprised, hurt and bewildered.during the following week,I would dissociately become like a little child and give out an involuntary cry,mummy. Iws unwellfor about 2 months after.as an adult I knew intellectually there were some things mentioned that I knew were generational and thought they had been already dealt with,hence my surprise,but they did not know that. Is this an example of child deep trauma emerging in my subsequent responses and illness. God is always ministering into our deepest heart places in his tender and unfathomable love, constantly bringing us along out of true and false shame, reshaping us again and again eternally into his beautiful image .all praise and glory be to him in Christ Jesus.
You said you were going to be sure we had access to cards because there were so many verses. How can I find them?
Maybe I don't understand this subject fully, but shame is not all negative; surely to repent is to accept reproach for the wickedness of our actions, and that obviously involves a level if shame. This makes the words of Jesus understandable when he said, unless you hate yourself, you cannot be my disciple
That is not accurate at all. We should hate our SIN but not ourselves. Dig deep into the bible and you will see what a loving gracious God we serve.
@@suefagan7528 Your certainly missing the mark! Hate our sin? Sounds like ownership. We are to hate all sin: GOD does. If you have sin, you are in a state of rebellion and lost. The idea that you can have any sin and be in fellowship with GOD is antichrist.
@@stevedavies8703 ok Steve. Well I'm not trying to get you worked up but give me chapter and verse where Jesus says unless you hate YOURSELF you cannot be my disciple.
The self we are to hate is the one we were before Christ made us new. That self, not the justified being sanctified self who lives because Christ lives in me, is the self to hate. I had to hate her to let her go. I had to hate her for spending so long thinking she could solve her own problems. I had to hate her pride and ego to surrender completely. Years down the line now I see her with the compassion that our Father God obviously had toward me in order to pursue me and adopt me.
I still struggle with rebellion around food and exercise which are the sins of gluttony and sloth. Yet I know that I am loved in the same way, but exponentially better, that I have continued to love my children in their rebellion, when they were doing things that I knew were harmful.
I don’t hate myself now because myself is in Christ, being perfected (with much stumbling) until the day when I see Christ’s face and He will finish me perfectly in that moment.
How is self glorification a form of self hatred, please expound, thanks!
So by design, how can we claim the we are children of a good and capable god when 2/3 od our brain systems are incapable to respond adequately to external threat ?🤔
Conviction is the cry of a baby saying its diaper needs changing. Condemnation is the diaper rash that results after not dealing with the mess, whether big or small.
Will there be any new videos from you three coming up soon?
There’s a wonderful new series that just started a few weeks ago.
So can you explain why religion condemns new born baby's are born into sin, creating shame from the onset ?
That is not a shaming truth, just truth. Because we are genetically connected to Adam and Eve, their sin is passed to us. A newborn seems innocent. Watch that infant become a toddler. Mine and No are among first words. Mine is our inherent inherited self-centeredness. No is our inherent inherited rebellion against authority. The ultimate authority is God. Rebellion against God is sin. Thus we come to the truth that we are born sinful.
You have a man made believe system. The above interview is rubbish they are earning money that is their living keeping the negative narrative of living in this world going. Ask yourself if there's life for ever after why do we spend billions on keeping people alive You couldn't make it up or could you!