Why Germany Protects its Soviet Memorials
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Based on the New York Times Articles by Anatoly Kumanaev:
www.nytimes.com/2023/04/28/wo....
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This was a completely different time. The soldiers who died for a different cause, they where hero’s in their own right. How can you compare what modern day Russia has done and ultimately deface these men’s graves. The men who died in ww2 have nothing to do with this conflict.
It is a shame to see the current conflict being used as a means of erasing Soviet history, especially in regard to memorials to the Soviet role in WWII.
We should not forget, that Stalin went along with Hitler to swallow Poland, not to mention katyn.
@@m.r.3912 the MR pact was to to buy the Soviets time before the inevitable Nazi invasion. Anyone with even a cursory understanding of Soviet history knows this. Stalin was obsessed with building the productive forces of the USSR since the 1920s in order to defeat the future attack from the west that he accurately foresaw.
Many soviet soldiers where ukranians, so the memorials should be respected.
RedPen, this is the official declaration by which the Soviet Union explained this pact after the war. Accordingly, Stalin would have been a genius who foresaw everything exactly. However, the almost complete obliteration of the Soviet officers' chorus as part of the Stalinist purges does not fit in with this. The filling of officer posts with inexperienced newcomers already caused great chaos and high losses during the attempted Soviet invasion of Finland in 1939 and even more when the German invasion took place. Even today historians still argue about the real reasons for the pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. In any case, the USSR aggressively attempted to incorporate the countries promised to it as areas of influence in the secret additional protocol of the pact and also massively supported the German blitzkrieg with supplies of raw materials...until they were attacked themselves.
The Soviet war memorial park in Berlin is well worth a visit, it's very impressive.
@@uschurch For the people who are grateful to the liberation of Europe from Nazism
Impressive how it stands as an arrogant self-aggrandizement by a marauding bunch of raping apes.
And ugly
Now you have Russians Holding pro Russian protests there.
They need to leave their country to protest in the first place.
A memorial for rapists
Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it. I understand the reason for keeping the memorials.
Oh yes definitely keep all the Hitler statues standing too. You're so smart bro !!!!
@@affordablecareactof how can you compare memorials for the Red Army, to Hitler?
@@powa6243 Because they're just as bad and collaborated on partitioning Poland before it became inconvenient to remain allies?
@@affordablecareactof Who mentioned the German dictator? Nobody here. Why write his name with a capital "h"? Are you a supporter?
@@SpaceMarine500 I know that they partitioned Poland with the Wehrmacht. I know that they committed brutal war crimes in certain places at certain times, and a million other things. I understand. but, you have to understand that the Western Allies had done the same kinds of things as well (we're talking bombing raids that caused significant civilian casualties, internment of Japanese-Americans in concentration camps in America, war crimes done as well especially in western Europe etc.).
Not only that, but just because of these things happening, doesn't take away from the fact that the Red Army had played a very significant role in the eventual defeat of both the European Axis and the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere and bravely fought against them. Some even say that WW2 could've ended in an Axis victory if it wasn't for the very stupid decision of invading the USSR, which brought them into the war alongside the allies.
I feel bad that other German memorials of past German soldiers from ww1 are getting destroyed and disrespected when they fought for the Germans and for the future of generations and did what they thought was the good choice. It is a shame also that the bravery of German soldiers who had to fight in ww2 isn't acknowledged
In what sense should we acknowledge the bravery of Nazi soldiers who fought to invade all of Europe and the USSR?
@@redpen1917 Not Nazis, you are referring to them like they all thought the same. They were people, put there to fight and risk their life's. Some did because they had to, some did it because they wanted to serve. But seeing all of them as some kind of "monsters" is utterly ridiculous. Imagine you being sent on the front line, dying one year of service, and your homeland lost the War and everyone would start seeing you as the "bad dude", your own sacrifice would have been a waste. The Nazi regime should be the one hated on, not brave soldiers that did that both me and you would probably have to do in case of a world war 3.
@@InAeternumRomaMater There is no point in talking to western commies. They dont want to acknowledge how the World works.
Memorializing the people who defeated your nation is an act of humility. It is a reflection on the folly of your ancestors' pride. Yes German soldiers were brave and many of them died doing what they thought was right. It's not about them. The statues stand for the moral lessons modern people must learn from those wars.
@@appa609 It is humiliating in a sense but yeah, removing those statues would be bad optics in the international community and go against the reputation Germany wants as a state distanced from nazism as much as possible.
Thats probably just good ol' German self loathing. From Poland to the Baltics to most of the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union itself already tore down their Soviet statues because of the disgust they felt during the Russian occupation. Why do you think Ukraine is fighting so hard to not be a vassal state once more?
Burgerbrained moment
@@NulledSeriesYou are. Being a puppet of some other nation sucks.
@@kindneybeanjoeTell that to any NATO countries people 😂
Soviets soldiers were not only russians but Kazakhs, Ukrainians, Belarussians, Iakouts, Moldovans etc...
it was russian hegemony
Not a single Russian unit actually took part in the fight for Berlin. 2 Byelorussian units, 1 Ukrainian and 2 Polish units.
There were russians tho.
After all, Russians died the most among all the people@@Kpoole35
@@WeoXCY only 1 in 9 soldiers that went into Berlin were Russian. There was more Polish soldiers than Russians there. Berlin was taken by Ukrainians and Belarusians led by a Georgian.
@@Kpoole35 don't forget polish "polk", if you're so "smart"
In Volgograd there is a cemetery of German soldiers that the locals tend to, it is modest admittedly but when one thinks of all the suffering the Nazis brought to Russia it is incredible that there is such a place and that the locals keep and still maintain it speaks to a greater heart than I can ever understand, The Russian people is tough but generous, they only left their memorials while the USA still has military bases.
Not as much as Soviets brought suffering to the world including their own Country and Ukraine....holodomor killed as many people as holocaust in a fraction of the time. All commie monuments need to be removed.
i think a lot of people tend to forget that ukraine was also part of the ussr, and when you tear down soviet war memorials, you also spit on the legacy of the ukrainians that served in the red army
Not only a part, but the second biggest part of it
What a joke, the Holodomor happened less than a quarter decade before the war. Ukraine was dragged along into WW2 as a meat shield. It is the ghost of the USSR that is the cause of the current war and there is nothing you can do to change this fact.
they used it under the name of Nationalism and called that all Ukranian who died for USSR is a traitor. Same goes for Poland and so on. Most notice example is Konstantin Rokossovsky.
@@potomskazhu second lmost populous, i think kazakhstan was bigger land wise
Even disrespecting the Russian soldiers who died in the Battle of Berlin is wrong. They have nothing to do with today's war.
Thank you for this video!
Not 1/2 mile from the Brandenburg Gate is the Soviet memorial from WWII. A fifty foot high statue of a Russian soldier with columns on either side, and T-34 tanks on pedestals on both side. I've been there. Impressive and the Germans leave it alone.
@@uschurch yes we get it, you're mad fascism got defeated. Destroying the statue won't change that reality
@@uschurch Oh, you mean if you were king.
@@pixel8397 Countries that were "liberated" by the Soviets just traded one dictator for another. Stop acting like the USSR didn't also commit genocides and human rights violations. They were just as bad as the Nazis.
@@StandTallTx the whole “Soviets and Nazis are the same” is quite literally fascist propaganda attempting to absolve and whitewash the Nazis of their crimes. How can they be the same when after 40 years of Soviet influence the people of Eastern Europe still remain? Had the Nazis won the Slavs, Balts, and other ethnic groups of Eastern Europe would’ve been either enslaved for the German war machine, massacred which was already what was occurring through fascist occupied territory, or forcibly germanized and made to lose their culture. What the Soviets did absolutely was liberation and I struggle to see how you’d disagree with that, why don’t you google generalplan ost if you don’t believe me
@@pixel8397 you say that like ussr was a caring and loving regime that totally didn't conduct genocide, ethnic cleansings, mass r@pe, and just overall oppression of poles, baltics, czechs, slovaks, ukrainians, etc.
Because there will be no retaliation against those who didn’t mess around with monuments.
This is what we called civilizational nation, histories becomes part of that nation whether or not it fits into their narrative, it requires no revisionism
@@uschurch Cowardice?
Do you think the same about Confederate statues?
@@TeikonGom Yes
@@albertp3721 Quite the opposite. Acceptance of a relity greater then yourself. Be inspired to prevent it from repeating it.
The USSR cared nothing for its soldiers. The “memorials” were nothing more than propaganda for local communist village idiots.
This melody at the beginning, what is it called?
The National Anthem of Russia
@@lennardschneider6847 No it's the anthem of the USSR why would they play the anthem of russia in a video about the soviet union. Yeah, I get it they sound the same but just say the ussr not russia
Someone should really tell NFKRZ about this video. Even though I don't really trust the rest of the videos on this channel, this one is pretty interesting.
“I don’t trust like that.”
Because Germany is a self-loathing country.
How can anyone recognize the Russian Federation of today to that of the Soviet Union? How can so many forget how the collapse of the Soviet Union…which was perpetrated by Yetlson, which used force to get his way, leading to Putin rise in power.
Glory to the red army!
My favorite nickname the locals have for one of those monuments is "the tomb of the unknown rapist." Those brave heroes who killed defensless civilians after the war was over, and notoriously built said monuments before bulding houses for the population.
You sound like a Nazi sympathizer.
@@redpen1917Holodomor, Killing Fields, Nazino Island, Great Leap Forward, Chernobyl Disaster, North Korean Manmade Famine, Pol Pot's Vietnamese Genocide, Soviet R@pe of Berlin, German Deportation/Massacre, Soviet Deportation of Poles to the Gulags, Massacre at Hue, Ceausescu's Orphanages. Just to name a miniscule number of Commie Genocides and Massacres and death caused by gross incompetence because " Muh State Security!
@@redpen1917So tell me, why should we idolize crooks?
@redpen1917 God forbid I say building statues while people starve is a bad thing, Rapist apologist.
The Soviets came seeking vengeance for good reason. Soviet soldiers were brutal occupiers, but were restrained and humane when compared to the German forces in the USSR. The German people reaped what sowed.
As someone from the Baltics, I’ve to say that context matters. From our point of view, both the Soviets and the nazis were occupiers, we didn’t ask none of them to come here. The demonizations of one of them and making the other occupants be called “liberators”, while Russians killed, deported locals and stole their land. The monuments are worshipped by the colonist descendentes who came to replace the deported locals. For us it’s a symbol of Russian imperialism and we’re disgusted by them. If we want to remove them, we have full rights, because we didn’t even build or want them.
Not everyone feels the way you do. Lots of people reflect fondly on the defeating the Nazis alongside the Soviets and are proud of their antifascist heritage.
@@redpen1917 while you’re right that it is not everyone, it still is most of the population that feels this way, because the Soviets deported their family and/or friends and stole their lands, which was then allocated to colonizers imported from Russia to replace the local population. Thank god the empire of evil, which was the Soviet Union, doesn’t exist anymore.
No we are not. The disgusting russian rapists should not be honored!
@@redpen1917they literally occupied baltic countries. Nobody in eastern Europe likes the soviets.
You're so ridiculous in your reasoning really, but that's your subjective viewpoint backed by a national idea, so I can't condemn it, really. Just in your place I would think much more objectively: 1930-40 years the big war is on the threshold and everybody understood it perfectly well, heads of Baltic states, your politicians established excellent connections with fascists had a lot of common agreements (Munters-Ribbentrop and Selter-Ribbentrop with secret agreements on reversal of formal neutrality against USSR - Latvia and Estonia go to alliance with Hitler. The "Fuhrer" of the "Third Reich" received the heads of Latvian and Estonian diplomacy). These pacts allowed much more conventions than the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which only gave temporary peace and respite for preparation for a big and bloody war. You don't really understand that in the context of such a war, the Baltic lands would in any case become a springboard for invasion of the USSR, and in the same case your nation would be an ally of the Fuhrer, as well as Hungarians, Bulgarians, Croats, Romanians and part of Ukrainians, who still hold a grudge against some of their neighbors. You would not be defenders of the nation, but enslavers and murderers of your neighbors simply because Big Uncle Fuhrer would threaten you with a bigger gun. But it seems to me that you are not even aware of the concept of The lesser of two evils.
es parte de la historia, gracias a Dios no hay monumentos de paises extranjeros en mi tierra..
NEVER demolish war cemetaries. Bow your head and respect if not the soldier at least the suffering a human being had to endure. Becaue behind each grave is the story of a family grieving for their son, sibling, etc. Have empathy rather than hatred. Even with this small gesture we lay the foundation for a better world.
And Finns…how many Finns did Stalin’s muppets kill ?
Ukraine, the second largest country in the Soviet Union.
Kazakhstan is larger
Idk why there removing the statues russia is invading ukraine not the USSR two completely different countries
3:45 that's not Swastika that is a hooked cross and in German ‘Hakenkreuz'
Can you imagine that we live in a time where population which claims to be "the most civilized" on the planet questions why memorials should be kept?
Can you imagine having a memorial for an army, that purged your people from a fourth of its former territory, committed countless atrocities against your people and occupied a quarter of what is left of your country for almost half a century, in your capital?
I consider this memorial to be a great national insult and if it was up to me it would be demolished tomorrow.
@@mikeisteinmongozwei5434 I wonder who invaded who first and who killed millions of souls in the east first .... also almost all german land lost was given to poland and it was deserved. wWhat do you think they should have keep these diverse ethnic regions after comiting the holocaust and sending death squads in the USSR? Your take is incredebly dumb., go outside and touch grass.
@@mikeisteinmongozwei5434 you're forgetting why this happened. Had the Germans not invaded the Soviet Union and plundered, raped, and massacred it's population that wouldn't have happened to Germany
@@mikeisteinmongozwei5434 and you guys killed 19 million civilians, sent them to labor camps, sold off women and children in brothels, etc etc. You wanted a war of annihilation and you got it.
@Visidox There should be a lot more memorials for German Soldiers in Germany.
Eternal glory to all who fought for freedom and the annihilation of fascism. Your sacrifice will never be forgotten, you you rest in peace.
Sorry but no thank you.
Sovuet Union mass murdered 100+ million innocent:
And they are lying about the geerman mass murdering.
Can you name one country wich get their freedom after they were "liberated" by the Soviet Unionen? I see no diffrence beteween a nazi dictator or a communist dictator.
also eternal suffering for their crimes against humanity
@@simpsbelongtothegulags3702”we have liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it” -Georgy Zhukov
@@seductive_fishstick8961 you know that ussr did it's fair share of murders, cleansings, imperialism, and just overall oppression to the poles, ukrainians, czechs, finns, baltics, etc. right?
5:00 cracks me every time
Yeah what an absolute joke. Stalin the comedian …
It´s time to remove them.
Why? That would be a disgrace to fallen soldiers who fought against Nazism.
Why should they take them down? And help Nazis rewrite history (which they are eager to do)?
@@redpen1917
The Soviet Union wasn’t any liberator, it was just another occupier and not in any way better than the nazi regime. Hundreds of thousands of German civilians were tortured, raped and killed. It took 40 years for the “liberated” countries in Eastern European to get their freedom and still today we can see how Russia behave against neighbouring countries. It’s war, threats and lies. The Germans can remember their history without honour criminals.
@@redpen1917you do know basic history, namely, that the Soviets and Nazis were allied for the first years of the war, they signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, to divide Europe among themselves. The Russians rewriting history and pretending to have won a war, that they themselves started by attacking Poland, is a disgrace to their victims.
In my opinion, the monuments that should be toppled are the ones that honor of the Russian empire
How about a national war memorial park recognizing multinational war dead❓
That is currently what exists… the Soviet Union was a multi-national entity. Many Russian and Ukrainian soldiers died side by side fighting the Nazis.
@@redpen1917 The soviet union was multi-national entity in the same way the british empire was.
@@regularguy2807 Compare their constitutions and see for yourself.
Because they promised they would and the then Soviets agreed to support German reunification and not oppose it. Saved you nine minutes.
Funny. We never hear about these preserved German monuments. Or Russian promises.
german monument are still in Stalingrad
Si vous déboulonnez nos statues on ferme nos gazoducs. Verstanden ?
Who killed more people, Nazis or Communists ?
Poorly done. You don't even say where the red granite came from?
It's a very difficult situation, i get why for some it's a cherished memory, while for others it's a symbol of oppression, what Stasi did to their own people was evil and they were a significant part of DDR.
Personally i think they should be moved to museums, where one can learn the full context of Soviet occupation of east Germany, the good and the bad.
I think of the Confederate Statues being trashed here in America. I am impressed with Germany it has the strength of character to honor the dead. Merry Christmas to all who fell in war.
Right?
You are kinda based ngl
Stop confusion betwen Soviet Union and modern Russia. Many soviet soldiers werent even russians.
Tell that to the ukranians which grandfathers fought against Nazis
@@sandrocosta479 Do you understand english?? Thats what i wrote!!!
@@uschurch oh sod off
Pretty mind boggling given the savagery and mass atrocities committed by Soviet troops against German civilians. Stalin was no better a human being than Hitler. The German army they fought against were conscripts.
“Stalin was no better than Hitler” - yikes.
@@redpen1917 i mean yeah, stalin was an asshole, if hitler won he would have been infinetly worse but stalin is on par with a hitler who lost.
@@redpen1917 he executed or sent to gulags 20million people where a significant fraction died. He Took great pleasure in having wives of those closest to him sent to gulags. Any more facts…. Pls read
@@Wolf-hh4rv Yikes if you think the Holocaust genocide was at all similar to Soviet Gulags or famines.
That’s a whole other level of mental gymnastics, but unfortunately your opinion is all too common in the revisionist west. Hell, most Americans think they liberated Auschwits.
@@Wolf-hh4rv many people really did die under Stalin. 27 million Soviets killed by Nazis. That is real. The notion that Stalin killed that many people is bourgeois propaganda, and historical revisionism of the highest degree.
We should just remove all monuments
No actually, we shouldn’t.
@@redpen1917 we shouldnt glorify rapists
@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 I can guarantee you that the nation that believed in racial hierarchy did more of that.
Why remove memorials which were built to honour soldiers who fought against fascism. Remembering that an army was needed to end the third reich should strengthen our support for Ukraine.
Because they were nothing but disgusting rapists and monsters. Thats why!
That army is also responsible for what might just be the biggest mass r@pe event in history and the oppression of estonians, Lithuanians, latvians, finns, poles, ukrainians, georgians, caucasians, czechs, etc. I mean are you aware that they did their own fair share of ethnic cleansings right?
Remember they +_never_+ stop after they destroy the statues...
Sins of the father and all that
I'm glad Germany didn't destroy their Soviet monuments. It's a shame that Poland today is destroying and erasing their Communist past.
Fascism is very popular in Poland and disrespects the Ludowe Wojsko Polskie Veterans, including my great-grandfather, who joined the Communist side to liberate his country against the Fascists.
Greetings from your Polish Comrade who's living in the UK.
So based Polish people still exist)))
Tourist attractions bring money into these areas for local economies. Money still has the final say.
As Eastern European I am so glad we have been getting rid of these disgusting monuments.
if you wish to purge the memorials you might as well not stop there. you might as well purge the Russian people too.
also, there were men from Belarus and the Baltics, plus Ukraine, who fought with the USSR and helped invade Germany. there were a lot of Russians but it wasn't all of them.
if you think this is a national insult, well it's probably supposed to be. "hey remember what happened the last time fascism rose up?" monuments, in my opinion, are a better reminder than books; it's not like people read that many books today anyway.
there were anti soviet insurgencies in the baltics
Because it helps them to see themselves as the victims that were freed by Red Army? 😉
Interesting
the reda were rapists
Because Germany is under occupation by its enemies.
It was actually the Germans that invaded the USSR.
I highly doubt in 1945 the locals were too happy to be under occupation ...
@redpen1917 who invaded poland from the east?
Let's not forget that soviet soldiers were made of all those Easter European countries including Ukraine and Russia who fought for freedom and democracy in Europe. The people who are calling for removal of soviet monuments have serious mental issues, how do you remove part of your been?? Thank goodness the Germans unlike the ex soviet union countries are not ashamed of their past and they're will to defend it by all means! Good on them 👏 👍🏿
The disgusting rapists should not be honored!
its not really that simple. Soviets in ww2 are fighting for conquering, looting and rping. Germans today are indoctrinated to hate their past and eastern europe who lived under communism knows its terror
Rare Germany W
You man big L
Immortal memory for Soviet soldiers who saved world from Nazism and Fascism! They will forever stay in heart of Russian, Belarussian, Kyrgyz, Kazakh and others. Thank you, German government for saving these memorials! Unlike other Eastern Europe countries that disrespect our memory for Soviet soldiers
Respect to Germany, not be like Ukraine.
I wish that they would also bring up the fact that the Federal Russian Republic is far from anything in similarity to the United Socialist Soviets Republic. One proposed a legacy for human kind and a better world (USSR), the other tarnishes itself with grave mistakes and too much capitalism due to the illegal collapse of the USSR. FRR had destroyed it's reputation and make the reputation of the USSR far worse outside of Russia. The people of the soviet union were still Russians yes, but different from the Russians we see today who are fascists. Ukraine is no different in that view. Ukraine was also once a great part of the Soviet Union but due to capitalization and opening of non-state capitalism, they have made themselves fascist. The same goes for a lot of other countries in the world. China being a good example of this.
Its sad how the eastern european states removed all memorials. Removing memorials means they removed their history, means a country without history is non-existent. They erased themselves and repeat he mistakes again.
the ussr was evil
You can learn more from a book than a public memorial.
No shit Sherlock
@@andrejt8160 So then you agree that shoving monuments in people's faces is idiotic? Fantastic!
@@StandTallTx no it is not idiotic, IT is supposed to be a grim reminder of the past. IT is supposed to be in your face. The monuments have nothing to do with the current war. They honor the fallen soviets ( Russian Ukrainian Belorussian Khazack estonian Yakutian Dagastani Georgian) not only would it bee disrespectful to the dead. it would be just petty and serves no purpose to destroy it.
@@StandTallTx i can’t remember anything i learnt from reading books.
However i can list 7 historical events based on memorials in my town
@@FrenchToastQc You can achieve even more by opening a book and reading about the conflict. A monument doesn't go into detail or explain the nuances of WW2 - it's literally a laymans version of what actually happened and disrespects the fallen because you're too lazy to read.
You're making the same dumb argument when people talk about Confederate memorials. News flash! This stuff is deeply personal to many people still and they should be able to choose when they want to remember a dark period of history. The same thing applies to Eastern European countries that don't want to be reminded when they were forced to adopt Communist puppet governments or when they had protests squashed because the people wanted to vote for democracy. Especially from a shit hole state like the USSR that's well-known for human rights violations, backwards policies, and rampant corruption.
We gotta respect the soviets for what they endured during ww2 - If we have to talk about one "nation" who won the war vs the nazis, it has to be the soviet.
Let alone the respect we have to show to Karl Marx and Lenin, the only 2 "true" communists who didnt degenerate into dictators, whos idea actually was there to benefit the people.
So sad to see whats going on in Ukraine as we speak. But we shouldnt judge the heroes of the past throug the criminal actions of today
there are certainly more than 2 "true" communists who didn't degenerate into dictators, such as trotsky and rosa luxembourg, but I get your point
Let that one nation rather be the British who took to war crimes like Möhnedam destruction, bombing of Dresden while full of refugees, and sinking ships full of refugees.
The Brits gave us hell in military sense. If the Ruzzkies didn't have had such harsh winters, Wehrmacht would have walked on Red Plain in Moscow. All the Red Army did was behave like the mindless butchers they are still today.
Ukraine was a member of the USSR, it had soldiers that died fighting nazi Germany...so by Ukraine getting rid of those monuments, they are dishonoring their own brave men and women who fought and died in the Great Patriotic War.
Precisely.
They were forced to fight with the Red Army.The Ukraine saw Germans as their heroes and liberators.
No National Socialist ever tried to starve millions of their countrymen to death, as the Red Terror did.
holodomer
As soon as this Memorials get removed we will know that Fascism has returned.
reds were savages and rapists
@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht
This is all true, but lately east Germany has been sliding towards that for a fascism. The AFD is very dangerous
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I would argue that the Baltic nations, as well as Eastern Europe’s distant, and torres Russia Commons, not because of the Soviet union, but because of what happened during the Russian empire, that was definitely an imperialist power that did commit genocide on a whole level senators of Poland, Catherine, the great literally swallowed up all pulled in and wiped it off the map in the 1790s for successors committed horrific crimes against Circassian peoples in the Caucasus even if Latimer Putin is more interested in imperial Russia not the Soviet Union is an ultranationalist and imperialist that is important to make note of
statues don't fight back, simple as.
Because they need to do that, ffs! LOL... The question why others do not protect the history?
Keeping up monuments is not protecting History.
@@moritzm.3671 how so?
they are a reminder of one's history, as grim as it can be.
without a reminder of a dark history, we are doomed to repeat it.
Because honoring rapists is wrong!
If wasn't for Russia there wouldn't be Europe
Not Russia. It was soviet union. Many soldiers werent russians. Many were ukranians, poles, etc.
Yes but don't forget that the Soviet Union also:
- agreed on sharing Poland with Hitler
- attacked Poland and Finland
Without military help (equipment) from the British and the US the SU might not have stand until it got enough of its own tanks
Yes, but don’t forget that Russia gave Berlin back to Germany and didn’t really have to. My point is that there were also gestures worth highlighting and even to be grateful for.
If it wasn't for USA and the UK there would be no Russia. USA and UK supplied Russia with vital supplies during WW2,both tanks, aeroplanes, wool clothes, and raw materials. . They also supplied Russia with vital military intelligence from Ultra in the UK. Without all this help Russia would have been crushed by Germany earlier in the war at the time when Germans almost stood at the gates of Moscow.
They didnt gave Berlin back. They kept their Berlin occupation zone and intergrated it in a a puppet state. Do you think all the east Germabs fleeing into the west were happy with their new freedom? Also the Soviet Union started with Hitler the war. Before they fought esch other the Soviet helped attacking Poland, attecjt the Baltic states and attacked Finnland. So they were aggressors. If they could they would destroy Europe themselfes
Soviet union shall enjoy eternal glory for its heroic deeds
No lol
@Yulis Wow sounds just like Britian, USA, Germany, Japan, China and many more