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I think I’d like it if the show just got cancelled, and we all pretended it never existed
I'll add my signature to that
Well, I would disagree. Damage has been done and I had so much fun with critics on youtube, I am actually looking forward for season two, hopefully even crapper so funier. Now it's so calm, no she hulk, no rings of power, come on Hollywood, do (i mean fail) something!
That would be best.
There are some wounds that cannot be wholly cured
Agreeeeeeeeeed, n fire JJ 2 😂he ruins everything
It's hard to imagine how anyone could save this show without completely scrapping season 1 and starting over from scratch.
Yes they need to completely scrap season 1 and start again from scratch.
Back to the books 📚, back to the books 📚, back to the books 📚....
You could just ignore it. Nothing happens anyway
@@delliv5451 I get a feeling they really did used back to the books when writing it, but it was about making sure book content was not in the show.
Yeah absolutely starting again from scratch would be the only way forward! I wanted to see Morgorth as the main villain of Season 1, that didn't happen, goddamnit! lol
@@helenwaldeck185 Yes. I would have loved to see Morgoth vs Fingolfin. In a way it is sad we don’t, but on the other hand I am grateful that this showrunners didn't adapt it, and we'll most likely get it in the future, properly, epicly adapted. Something I'm confident to state after how things with this show went: maybe next hands will be more attentive and devoted to the story
A while back, I started wondering why people adapted famous books totally different from how they actually are. I mean, if the books became famous is because people like the story as is, right? Then I started to realize that some writers/directors want to tell their own stories but no one will give them the money so they decide to get something that will be funded and change it into whatever their silly brains think should be. It's infuriating!
I get that a lot of times some changes need to be made to TV and movie versions because of budget, production or so it's more coherent for screen. But when they start changing so much because they think their ideas are better, then we get garbage like this series
Spot on-or they like ONE thing about it but want to make it "relevant"for today's WOKE crap .MoDERNISE it apparently.As our mate here points out.!What a couple of that's.
Twats I meant- t wats.
These are the same people who see no conflict in saying that (a) it’s great Amazon spent zillions of dollars for an awesome IP that everyone loves and (b) all the true fans of that IP are racist sexist assholes.
I think its not because of the writers, but the agenda
to tell you the truth i don't want them to save the show i hope it will be a complete disaster all these clowns must get what they deserve
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Yup. These little shits need to suffer the consequences of their hubris
Nah. I want amazon to learn to do multinational huge budget art projects right.
I kinda think it tells a lot about the future of humanity.
My hope is they retcon season 1 and do it all over again with fully new plot and Celebrian as the protagonist
My sentementa exactly
I would love them ( or anyone) to save it, sadly won't happen, never ever. But you would rather bathe in your hatred , and enjoy watch somebody fail than watch a good middle earth show. That's such a fucked up mindset
The worst thing about the reckless abandon of using words like : Racist, bigoted, evil and Nazi is that these words should have very powerful meaning... and by constantly using it for criticism only makes the words lose meaning.
It's now seen as an eye roll to be called these terms because they're used so often. These words should be used sparingly and have validity to it... but now being called a Racist is just a meme. Sad really. They turned absolutely horrible words into a joke.
Of course they wrote season 2. The way they write, i swear i can write 10 seasons in one day
😂😂😂😂
😁😁😁😁😁😁and you probably had left enough spare time to visit the cinema.
Also helps that the first draft is also the final one.
@@MariaIsabellaZNN That makes sense. If there was ever someone who do proofreading, they would have so much concern. How Numenoreans got to middle earth that fast, fit on three ships and have sunrise in their back, while riding from west etc. etc. Yet, it was never corrected, so most probably, the draft is final, because writing is perfect, like the authors themselves.
Is that a Crowded House song?
Just shows that money doesn't always equal a good product.
I love how you just lovingly called us "patently evil bigots" 😁. Coming from you man, I'll wear that label with pride. Love your channel!
Coming from those two boyband rejects, yes I'll wear my evil bigot with pride. Cause at least I wouldn't bend over for a bunch of screaming lunatics.
Whenever someone asks me to explain something in class or in a meeting, I just say "You have not seen what I have seen". "But..."
"You have NOT seen what I have seen!!!"
Game. Set. Match.
You forgot Greta flinch
Jonny, Jonny, Jonny, you are a joy - "Don't care about the Lore, go Poor", love it.
I’m using that in the future lol
I really loved your line, "They thought it was too big to fail, but turns out, it was too failed to be big." LOL, that's perfect! -- exactly what they thought. "It's fantasy -- how hard can it be? Let's just throw money at it, and throw a bunch of tired tropes and some half-baked copies of PJ's brilliance at the wall and see what sticks. The fans will love it, because it's LOTR." But it's an epic fail that will never be big because they have no respect for Tolkien, for the lore, for PJ's real genius, and certainly none for the fans.
The Sea Is Always Right! ... Cant wait for more memes in season 2. We could probably harvest Tolkien spinnning in his grave and solve the energy crisis
"The Sky is Always Up!"
"The Earth is looking down."
"The Wind only Blows on Windy Days."
"My Right Side is Not My Left Side."
For me, every time I have a cup of - Yorkshire strong - tea, it is: "The Tea is always right! "
Delicious.
@@jamesupton4996 good taste sir
"Why does the rock not float? " 🤣
The earth is evil because it looks only downwards.
Fix it? Start Season 2 with a real character from the actual show waking up from a nightmare called Season 1 and proceeding from there. This after firing everyone involved with Season 1 down to the animal trainers and sending an ocean liner stuffed with cash to Peter Jackson's house. Regardless of where his house is located.
Down to cleaning staff, they couldn't locate that crap scent.
🤣I love this comment
Season 2 should be made into a musical to appeal to a more modern audience. We should also learn the Harfoots settled where their wagon train burned down and it became Hobbiton (maybe reveal with a cool font change). Celeborn should return and have a reeeealy uncomfortable chat with Galadriel about what she’s been up to while he was missing.
First divorce with alimony in Middle Earth, because it was his fault, for not giving her, what she needed (sexy Sauron).
I now want a t-shirt that reads “Patently Evil Bigot.”
HEAR HEAR, TOO FAIL TO BE BIG! x'D
I think season 2 is beyond saving tbh
"Don't care about the lore, go poor."
I like that.
Only single way they can fix this awful show is to first off apologize to the planet for what they did, then fire everyone involved. Then recast the entire cast maybe get a few actors and actresses that are skilled and rewrite and release as the new rings of power and remove all existence of the first season forever.
Yup, this the way.
Adar and Sauron were quite good!!
@@manuelrenz7281 hmm good point adar wasn't to bad, pass on discount aragorn
Both were trash. Sauron can't be posing as a human male in his mid 40's in order to trick the elves that are thousands of years and supposed to be wise. Not morons. Why do they all have short hair? So they could look more like the dbags who worked on this shit.
There is one insurmountable problem here. Apologizing. Modern craters are huge narcissist. They would rather see world in flames, then admitting, they were completely wrong. So this is out of question and crap, just slightly course corrected, still crap season 2 is comming !
Jonny, I love your humor! It is going to be a long wait until we can poke fun at this show again. That is all I see coming in season two. More reviews from people like you that can stomach to watch it, because I certainly can't!
ROP is completely beyond saving unless they retcon the first season entirely and start over.
I'd like to see them try to save it, just to see how they'd go about it. But I honestly don't think it's possible. If it was 'just' the story, or the characters, or the photography, or the actors they could make some changes and try to bring it around - but it's not. From the ground up, in every single aspect of the production they made very definite choices that can't be 're-tooled' with anything less than a 'wakes up from a nightmare' sequence - and even then that wouldn't fix the costumes, the sets, and the overall aesthetic.
Adaptations like this, Wheel of Time or Witcher, even Halo , had huge very well developed stories that have been proven to be successful and popular. You don't need to be creative with a story if you already have one. But that's the problem, they want to show the world that they are better than the source material and want to make it their own. In which they fail, because they are nowhere near as good as the original creators.
Don't forget the arrogance of political messaging; subvert and destroy the patriarchy after all.
Remember in the movie "Braveheart", just before the battle of Falkirk the last thing that William Wallce told the English commander that he should do? That's what the showrunners of this show should do.
I think they having a contest with she hulk writer on who can cringe the most viewers
If the foundations are rotten you won't build anything on them. This should be redone from zero. Scrap everything. Treat it as if it never ever happened. Jump straight to rings creation. Then jump to Numenor fall and finally to the last war. Each season with different actors as it happened in the books. Anything else will be a continuous disaster.
There are non rotten foundations, they’re just very pro-sauron foundations
If Season 2 doesn’t open with Lady Galadriel waking up in a soft plush bed, turning over to see her husband Celeborn awakening next to her and her saying “I’ve just had the most elaborate dream…that I had become an evil psychopath and that Sauron returned in disguise and Celebrimbor created magical rings…and I knew if was a dream and not a full on premonition because there was some nonsense about a Silmaril in a tree and Echthelion or perhaps Glorfindel fighting a balrog…” and then the whole thing is re-set and the slate is wiped clean…if that is not the opening scene of season 2, I am out and never ever coming back.
They could have given us the final three seasons of The Expanse. As that legend Bobbie Draper would say, they f’d ALL the way up!
Saving the show..... hm, I need to get a time machine..
Would be like rebuilding the Hindenburg from its remains.
They should pretend they always intended it to be like The Crown, so they can change cast and start anew. We can pretend to go along with that to save their blushes; it's fine Amazon.
It's beyond 'saving'. It's just more magnificent meme material at this point and on :D
I love how Jonny basically started this channel off of ROP and She/Her-Hulk and it's absolutely hillarious.
Keep crushing it lad, you're awesome!
'A PILOT? WHAT IS A PILOT?" - John Travolta
"The cake was kind of baked before the audience response" ... I already used this analogy elsewhere but season 1 already seemed to me like those two guys thought you baked a cake by dumping all the ingredients into a bowl and stick that in the oven. No recognition of any of the actual steps required, just throw it all in there it'll be fine.
It is mind boggling that not a single person read the script and noticed all the glaring inconsistencies and errors in the plot and in what the characters say and what they do.
The showrunners seem to be... conflicted.
I loved the part where Galadriel Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way Targaryen faced off against the germans, "We have the mightiest armies in all of middle earth! What do you have that could defeat us?" Sauron just cracked his neck and said, "Magic, Mutherf*cker." Then Frodo said, "Crap. we're gonna need a bigger ring." so Gandalf told the Ents "run forrest run!" Then Don Lemonlas said, "We Haz RANGS!" while wearing T-shirt that read, "Ask Me About My Translucent Agenda." Then all the N*zis got blown up when the Gay Engola dropped two nukes: Body-Positive Man and Little Transboy.
All Game of Thrones scholars agree that the scene where Rhaenyra whispers in Celeborn's ear “I hate pee on the toilet seat when I go to use it.” and then disconnects the machine that keeps him alive, perfectly delivered George JRR Martin's message of hope and healing for all wahmankind. Then Galadriel jumped into the ocean with Dory and started singing, "Just keep swimming."
I have to admit, I did not like the part where the authot race swapped the ents. Ents are clearly White Birch, but those ents were OAK. Remember, Arboreal Pollen is Tree ejaculation, so the Ent orgy counts as interracial and should have the appropriate tags.
I loved the part where Ursula said “Ahh, so you think darkness is your ally? But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t see the light until I was already an octopus, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!” Then She-Hulk said, "You either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Crustacean." And then Halbrand said, "YEW TUKE ARR JERBS!" and Kicked a Harfoot into a well while shouting, "THIS. IS. NUMENOR." But Then Ursula Replied, "I am INEVITABLE!!!" only for Ariel to impale her with the boat while saying, "And I am all the Jedi! ... On a Boat."
I laughed, I cried, I kissed 18 bucks goodbye.
10/10 Would edge to it again.
Much Stunning. Much Bravery.
Ah... how could I ever forget "My Immortal".
I cried when Finrodimus Prime was killed by Saurotron. He was like a father to me.
Let them fail
If Jeff Bezos hasn’t called for a total rewrite for Season two he’s fool.
He already is. Do you think, he didn't personally approved season one?
@@ilfirinms if he did he’s the problem.
@7:23
just love that reaction man
of course they should keep the showrunners, someone has to clean the toilets.
Guys. Its ok if we don't like it. They are making the show for themselves. Never mind the billion dollar investment. Its just two guys figuring out what works for them. We should probably take a step back and let them explore their creativity... The egos these 2 have is nothing short but colossal.
But there is one positive thing that emerged from this mess of a season. You can tell who your friends are by whether or not they cheered at the scene where Harfoots get all their stuff set aflame. The ones who cheer. Those are really good people.
Who would have thought in 2001 that by 2022 I would cheer for Sauron, Adar and the Orcs.
"Don't care about the lore, Get Poor"
I'm stealing that.
A meteorite hitting the Earth is the only thing that could save the show
Excellent video. Thank you.
Don't care about the lore, go poor! Period Johnny boy! 💯
They can save the show. Apologize to the fans. Admit the first season was not good or faithful to the sources. Star over. Write a good and faithful second season as a full restart and announce that.
Durin's Bane is actually his wife . . . plot twist.
"this show has not much to do with Middle Earth. I said not much? I meant to say nothing at all"
I say they should just make season 2 a full reboot of season 1 with non of the actions in season 1 having consiquenses or even existing and then hire a lot of tolkien fans like jhonny law in deep geek broken sword etc to make the plot and then hire peter jackson as director and hire good script writers then you have a good show with a canon plot
the only way
And also fire all the actors and cast ppl who can actually act
No. The broken sword is one of those "fans" that accepted Amazon's invite to watch and review the show. They sold out. Also, just don't make a season 2.
First episode of season 2. Galadrial kisses Halbrand and sees a vision of Sauron and wakes up screaming. And then she explains how season 1 was a weird dream.
Hi Steven. Can’t get enough of putting down rings of power. You do it well.
Start again and consign season 1 to oblivion as if it never existed. Clear out show runners and entire writing team and buy Tolkien's books for the next set of writers.
Keep smashing it bro you've got the beans to get there.
yup!
We need to get "Don't care about the Lore? Go Poor!" on t-shirt 😂
AKA the "fall guys" that take all the blame so the dumb audience can be persuaded to come back in season 2 when those two are gone.
Works every time.
I would like an obelisk
It wasn't about making Tolkien's work according to the lore because they do not agree with the moral🧵Tolkien had woven into all his stories. This was about making it "for the modern audience." The noble characters were made villainous in nature and the the "evil" characters were made to be somewhat sympathetic.
So D&D 2.0 are going to listen to fan criticism while not listening to fan criticism. Just like they’re staying true to the lore while changing the lore or having their cake and eating it too. 🤡💩
Hey Jonny, just found your channel. I've been going through a dark time this past month, and your videos make me roar with laughter. Thank you ❤
This can’t be saved.
These people are arrogant, scarcely intelligent and patently evil.
Excellent video again. I'd love to see you feature on an open bar some time.
they can make their trash shows, but not in lotr universe
Thank you for this content. Im happy that someone appreciate original LOTR as i do.
I think changing the galadriel actress for someone that is already liked in general, would be a first good step...
I agree like who the fck is she anyhow? No talent actress. I cringe everything I see her easily the most unlikable character/actress of all time. And get rid of the Walmart Hobbits and discount aragorn..... you know what just recast and start over.
They have a quote in their own show to sum themselves up, their ears are closed to fans
Your eyes are unreasonably beautiful. Though in 2022, nothings more attractive or refreshing than a man who knows what he’s talking about and knows how to say it with confidence and a bit of cheek. You got it all man.. Officially subscribed!
There's no saving this show. Scrap it and start from scratch. New script, new cast, new designs... everything. Nothing should remind us this show ever existed.
Well, in the words of Ripley in Aliens...
It was written in the afternoon after a barbacue at some friends house..... in a napkin
At least they finally showed us with their galadriel how a strong woman with agency should behave. So glad to now being able to change my behavior to be strong, successful and admired by everone XD
Give the original Dumb and Dumber a little bit of credit. They did shoot a Game of Thrones pilot that was apparently so bad HBO started over.
This feels like the sword of truth adaptation. A billion for a low budget result
Theyre not the clowns, theyre the entire circus
- miles edgeworth
They're going to listen to the Reylos, where's the Sauron, Galadriel Elrond 3 way!
Oh please no... You know Galadriel is Elrond's mother in law, right?
...but with these show runners...
Patently evil bigot here.
For season 2 I would suggest the following.
1) Seek advice from PJ
2)Hire writers who who are fans of tolkeins work (it is essential)
3) Less focus on the woke ideology or none at all that would be even better.
4)Involve the community ie. Seeking feedback off them is paramount.
More evilest clowns than mr Pennywise himself indeed
Only way to save season 2 is to use the old hack of season 1 being a dream sequence, a warning of things to come; it never really happened.
I think it’s pointless to steer a ship after you’ve already hit an iceberg.
Mel Brooks THE PRODUCERS comes to mind.
I have said before and say it again: That pair should be known as Dunning & Kruger. Seriously, they are the Dunning/Kruger effect personified.
We said it, We called this in Exsurge Tolkien, since 25 March, now its a full apostasy of power, The evidence is clear, and none can deny that "ROP" is not of Tolkien. Our EXSURGE TOLKIEN that makes robustly clear the heresy of the showrunner's mouths and hearts. They probably know nothing of Tolkien's masterpiece, as evident from their interview in the Vanity Fair Article. For "they who proclaim to loveth Tolkien, yet understandeth, not his world view can neither hope to create a new film, show, or series of his secondary world." "Auta i lóme!" and" Aurë entuluva!"
Just scrolled through the Prime app on the TV. RoP is buried about twenty tiles deep in suggested shows, a couple of tiles after Wheel of Time.. House of the Dragon is the second listing in the large promo slot right at the top. Even Amazon knows this show is canine fecal matter.
I remember a sci-fi series called The White Mountains that was based on the novels. The series followed the canon pretty closely, the characters fir the descriptions from the books, and the plot mood had the same eerieness of the books. That series was really good. Unfortunately for some reason the final season wasn't aired. Anyway, The White Mountains was one of the best book to TV adaptations I'd ever seen. Current writers won't go that route for some reason. It sucks.
agreed. get rid of the show runners, all the writers and anybody who touched the scripts.
Give Peter Jackson the GDP of a small country and pray, might start to save it.
If whatever they wrote for season two is like season one then they should chuck it straight in the garbage can.
JONNY LAW THE TORMENTOR, ATTACK, WITH YOUR FIST OF FURY!!!
I'm sorry I just felt inclined to it, can't take my eyes out of your binder
They need to fire all writers, all actors, all costume-designers, all sound-designers, all stunt-choreographs and everyone involved who did not rebell against the script. Then start over.
Oh i see, I see. Mmmmyeees, season two is already written you say? Well surely with an estimated 2024 release, we could, perhaps, just like… REWRITE THE SCRIPT SINCE THE BACKLASH AND CRITICISM FOR SEASON ONE WAS SO MASSIVE- oh no no, that would be nonsense.
how do you fuck up a BILLION dollars? ask these guys
The massive ego these to have is larger than middle earth itself!
I don't know about saving series two, but the other week I finished off trying to re-cut season one into something not quite as bad, and that was hard to do! Cutting stupid dialogue, stupid scenes, stupid characters, and rearranging everything to try and fit within a two week timeframe left roughly 2 hours of usable content from a 9-ish hour show.
I stuck it on bitchute if you fancy a gander.
Cancel it and bugger off
Now that i think about it, RoP is the Halo 4 of television: they had everything to make it work but it sucked
Can't save it. At this point its a knock-down and rebuild from scratch.
U collect Yu-Gi-Oh? A short journey through your collection would be interesting. :)
They can’t save it because the gutted all the lore/canon and made the characters trash. The only viable option is to reboot completely with a new Season 1
Each time things like the volcano about to cook Galadriel, the friends of Isildur hitting him, or the trans-Nazgul setting in fire the Hardfoot I felt those villains as the heroes we needed >:D "the biggest experience for season two was... themselves" I truly believe them, the show looks like them, not that masculine, exaggeratedly emotional and cringy.
I like how the showrunners just projected themselves in the show as the priestess in that very scene you shown. The Tolkien fans are like the hobbits in the scene and are like : don't you fucking dare touch the lore (Nori) or we'll smash you. The baddies pick the lore (in this case the fire torch) then destroy the fire (our passion) and spread devastation everywhere. Not saying Nori is lore but just a metaphor.
Frankly I think the safest bet is for Amazon just keep going as planned but drop the budget dramatically. Just try to keep the fans they have with a smaller budget.
Only Peter Jackson could save this shit show and only if season one was just sick fever dream.