Why Everyone Hated - ECHO
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What can be said about the ECHO series... well a few things, so here goes...
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I could not get into the Echo show -- the main character just did not speak to me.
It just seemed a little tone deaf. Y'know, it didn't have a leg to stand on.
Sounds about right.
I saw that matt was goanna be in it so I thought that maybe there would be a courtroom scene but no, the show didn’t have any hearings
#angryupvote
She did, actually. There was at least one part where she spoke.
I don't blame you for not remembering and I know that this comment will fall on deaf ears.
The main issue with the awkward kick against daredevil, is not so much the kick itself.
Watch daredevil. He just waits there with his head in the exact right position for her kick and doesnt move at all. He's just frozen there, waiting on her.
It's freaken pathetic execution
DD is the wrong character to fall for that yeah
What would you want from a girlboss cripple actress? :) Actually knowing the martial arts, lol?
It’s a common problem with terrible choreography: fight scenes that only work because the opponent is an idiot. You see it later when she’s brawling (awkwardly) with individual baddies while all the other baddies just stand around watching. And they all have guns but just stand there waiting for her to get close and fistfight
DD fake hitting her leg just before the kick was even more cringe.
Thank you! To me it's absolutely disrespectful to Daredevil. They made a total mockery out of him because he is so skilled and good at what he does and he has to drastically slow down and pretend that Echo is an actual challenge for him even though she's dumply and slow. Why does Daredevil have to be in incredible shape for his role, but it's OK for her and characters like Miss Marvel to be dumpy and overweight. Every male super hero has a fit and cut body. When Thor was overweight in End Game it was a joke and everyone laughed about it, but God forbid we laugh at Echo for being fat and dumpy. The double standard is ridiculous and offensive. This is coming from a woman that is a minority and disabled in case someone wants to say that I'm a "cis white male" ( I hate that term) that's a racist misogynist and ableist. Despite my disabilities I still work hard to keep myself in shape even though it's a lot harder for me to maintain a healthy and fit body. Echo doesn't even have a disability that physically limits her and Miss Marvel has no disabilities. The reason they had to add the stupid, vague powers from her ancestors is so we can somehow believe that someone dumpy and weak can fight. It really is pathetic and insulting.
A brake that can be used in an emergency? What kind of madness are you talking about.
As I've seen people point out, being a "deaf Ninja" is rather contradictory, because deaf people have no idea how loud they are, and therefore have no idea how to move stealthily.
Yes. Front windscreens are laminated, so sheets of glass layered with plastic so it cannot break up. Side and rear windows are tempered if they break, they shatter into tiny little pieces so they can't cut you.
I was in a car accident four days ago, and my car got munched by two small(ish) trucks, both the front windscreen and the rear were broken. The front screen stayed in one piece, thanks to the lamination, and the rear went into little pieces, just as designed.
I got a bit battered, and was still combing tempered glass out of my hair hours later, but I was not cut by the glass. Cars, especially those designed over the last forty years, are designed to protect the occupant as much as possible.
This is excellent information in case someone smart wishes to write a script. Your comment should be at the very top. I have tried writing non-fiction short stories and have found excellent sources online and through books. I have also been in a car crash years ago, and you described it perfectly. As long as you are wearing a seatbelt and the airbag is functional, all you get is a lot of numbness and pain depending on how bad the car tumbles around. My friend had numbness in his elbows and arms. I felt like a rock was thrown at my chest and my right shoulder had been tightened up with a rope. It was mostly the seatbelt doing its actual job. 😅I didn't know all of its functions until I saw a diagram. Interesting stuff you find out afterwards, while in physical therapy. 🏃♀
That delayed kick was like a video game character charging up an attack. XD
L2 hold
A character using VATs, looking to see which body part to select.
They used the TV-MA as a whole marketing gimmick too, and it felt so ridiculous
I thought the MA was "Missing Audible"
@@guygadbois3010 Funny enough, that was the rating of the gaming disaster "The Quiet Man" which did have missing audio due to the main protagonist being deaf.
The creators of Echo. Said that her powers from the Comics were lame Because in the comics. Echo has your ability If she see it, she can do it. Fighting playing music even talking without hearing. And they went and gave her literally girl power.
"white hospital" Like every modern country doesn't do the same exact shit LOL. This show is pure propaganda.
Seriously, I hate to be a dick about it, but if their methods were so superior, they wouldn’t have gotten wiped out.
@@alexman378Lol. Right stupid Indians not advanced enough to not get genocided 😂
Oh god, when you told that they took her mother out of the hospital on a stretcher, I immediately thought of that one episode of spongebob where Mr. Krabs got rolled out of the hospital because he had no insurance. xD
I am so happy that you always review this garbage, so we don't have to watch it.
Appreciate calling out the lack of trigger discipline. That kinda crap crap just makes you cringe. I mean... amongst all the other cringe.
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I actually enjoyed Hawkeye for what it was, except for how they brought kingpin back, the dude has dealt with the mob and the triads and now he works with the tracksuit mafia?
Not surprised they don’t mind Echo being a terrorist given the fact that the end of Falcon and Winter Soldier is Sam (in the ugliest patriotic colors suit I’ve ever seen) holding a literal terrorist’s body invoking the statue of Pieta (Mother Mary holding dead Jesus statue) and saying that the terrorists had a point actually and shaming the senator in front of the crowd of people.
Question: why didn't mommy use her healing powers to fix Echo's deafness?
thats her only identity, she will go down the "oppression ladder" if she got healed
Ableist!
@guygadbois3010
🤦♂️ There's nothing to heal! Her deafness wasn't caused by an injury! She was born deaf!
I'm a comic reader/collector, and all these characters first came from pages of Marvel, with their own origins and specific power sets. What I hate about the shows like this and Ms. Marvel, they completely change the origin and powers, essentially creating something new I'm trying to relate too, but they changed it too much.
In defense of hawke eye its unfair to compare it to bread drop. damn was that bread drop intense.
yeah the show was fine
even with the way they did the whole
I'm to old for this shit approach to hawkeye
which work and was not a slap in the face to the character
unlike some other shows
Hawkeye's biggest problem was that he was losing his hearing. In our world you can have surgery or get an implant that for many people solves this problem. The MCU has scientists smart enough to invent time travel and build flying suits of armor. He works for a government agency that builds flying buildings essentially. Yet he uses a hearing aid that isn't as advanced as most of his arrows
He uses a hearing aid in the books too.
@@Joecbg100That is so dumb
“A small example of a great deal of incompetence.”
Truly a great descriptor for the roots of all of Marvel’s problems.
If a tree falls in the forest does it echo if no one is there to hear it?
6:00 - in the US, the hand brake is also called "emergency brake".
26:00 - Not a superheroine, but definitely an avatar for the current generation of young girls, diverse & disabled or not. Generally speaking, most young women believe rules don't apply to them and behave accordingly. And why not? The arrest and incarceration rates are testament that they do not. A careful observer of American culture shows the number and diversity of fake crimes of which they claim to be victim has been growing of late, as well as legitimate crimes for which they see few to no consequences--for instance, teacher/student secks. A girl completely composed of horrible will certainly inspire more to follow--a bit like Robyn Hood and other reprehensible "girl boss" archetypes.
the weird law stuff gets weirder when you remember the sexes are in fact different
when shit goes wrong for a guy, the options become rather limited
chicks seemingly have societal, governmental, culural, and even instinctive outside process to help them out... and if they are good looking all they have to do is be an eslut. being an worthless pieceofshit is totally viable today for chicks
That fight with Daredevil was hilarious. He has to drastically slow down to accommodate her. I love Daredevil and he is fast. He literally had to stop to give her time to hit him. Maybe if she wasn't overweight and dumpy and trained as hard as the actor that plays Daredevil does to have a fit and strong body, they wouldn't have to choreograph the fight to accommodate how slow and weak she is. Scarlet Johanson once said she hated playing black widow because of how much training she had to do to look fit and strong enough to do the fight scenes she did. The days of Gal Gadots and Scarlet Johansons as female super heros are over so people can feel relatable to overweight and dumpy female heros that are too slow and weak to take anyone down, but we have to pretend they can.
I didn't actually watch echo, because why would I, but I heard she lost her leg and a car accident and I thought her leg got crushed. Crushed. Kind of similar to how Doctor strange's hands got crushed. Not a piece of glass that got embedded in her leg.
The fact that feige is doubling down and still making this garbage is just sad. It only proves that his job was easy from the start. I'm sorry, but everyone watching this video could have done what he did at the beginning. Dude had a pre-made last of great, established and loved characters to choose from with unlimited funds to make the movies happen. I could suggest 3 movies right now with full storylines that would make a billion easy and i bet others here could easily do the same. Kevin doesn't actually understand any of these characters. He just got very very lucky. Nothing will change until he's gone and they replace all of the writers
At this point I doubt they would make a billion dollars easy, people arent that excited about cape stuff anymore
@@derpherp7432that's quite inaccurate. The right hero with the right director would easily hit a billion. That awful spiderman movie just made an ungodly amount of money because they had the right characters and didn't treat the viewers like shit. That's all they need
I think you are right it would simply be about adapting the right character. Doctor Doom for instance. Maybe galactus. Even wolverine would still pull in bank. people have wanted to see some of these iconic characters for a long long time, and I can think of a couple that would make absolute Bank as a TV series, provided they do it right. That's all it boils down to, regardless of what people say or what people think there is most definitely a wrong way to do it. And I think Kevin has done the wrong thing way too many times for just any old hero to reinvigorate the genre. But at the same time, there is still so much possibility with doing things the right way
So she lost her leg because her Mom was a bad driver and her doctor was completely incompetent. And she was traumatized by her grandma being irrational.
I have two small thoughts... Maya's grandma accusing her father of taking Maya's mom from them might be granny just generally hating on Maya's dad for marrying Maya's mom... It happens a lot that someone in the family line will get irrationally angry at the person who the blood relative left the family to be with... and, Maya's delayed kick... that's her prosthetic leg, yeah? So, she probably had to aim it with her hand... which makes it a spectacularly bad idea for a weapon...
Grandma I think was referring to the dad being apart of a gang. The brakes being cut was an attempt from a rival gang, just happens to be her driving that night
Its still doesnt make sense lmao
Wilson fisk, the man who will do anything he can for the ones he loves, who is so terrifying that mere goons would never even dare speak his name, and is so learned that he could fluently speak Mandarin, never even bothers to follow through with a meaningful threat in this series or learn ALS...yes this is totally the same character and no the writers totally didn't hit him with the shamalan beam to strip the character of any depth or meance
Maya on that Far Cry logic; bandages heal everything from getting mauled by an animal to falling from a three story building
I still cannot believe that the waffle went for the forward fall and not the expected backwards fall. I can still remember the sheer excitement when I was sitting there on the couch with ma bois and girls. Our cheeks so firmly gripping the couch, you could have hung it upside down from the ceiling and no one would have moved. 🎉🎉🎉
As a fellow American, I appreciate when our beloved British brother Jonny Law elevates our vocabulary. Just in case you think that "philistine" has something to do with one of the current wars in the Middle East, here's a Googled definition: "a person who is hostile or indifferent to culture and the arts, or who has no understanding of them," "I am a complete philistine when it comes to paintings", which is not too far afield from we English speakers across the sea. Thanks, Jonny.
TIL that Americans don't use the word "philistine"
13:52 Surprise dunkey was, indeed, surprising.
I think that the leg delayed kick is her pulling the prosthetic back to kick him. The prosthetic could be on a hinge that constantly tries to straighten the leg so she has to manually pull it back. I think... maybe (Edit: Btw I don´t even know if the prosthetic includes the knee or not)
Maybe she was making room to fart
@@guygadbois3010 I mean, I always do during sparring. Throws 'em right off. Make sure to load up on meat and cheese beforehand for best effect!
I'm shocked, this was the nicest Echo review I seen on CZcams (seriously, seen a bunch on other channels I sun on too, even the more mainstream cut it to pieces).
My view is that I don't mind Disney doing a show for deaf people, as a hearing person the slow Shattner style of speaking makes my brain hurt but that is fine. My qquestion is more: Why would you pay $235 million dollars for a 5 episode show that doesn't really require many special effects or CGI (yeah, I know they cut out 3 episodes since they were terrible but that does not really make it sound like a better decision) that is made for a rather niche audience? I don't understand the economics behind that, Disney+ is losing an insane amount of cash so they make a short very expensive show for death people?
Now, if they paid a tenth of that, not a problem but if you want to throw that much money on a show you want a wider target audience, that is just common sense.
It didn't help that the story was terrible, the only person who gave the impression of being able to fight was Daredevil who made a cameo and the lead actress had never acted before or had any training in acting so she really couldn't act.
It was still better then She Hulk though.
She's the avatar. She's McGiver. She has the most Latino name for a Native American...
6:15
She had enough time to switch the gears to neutral and steer into the empty field. I've had to do that on icy roads a few times in my life (I'm from Montana)
I like how the grand mother specified WHITE hospital.
Disney now using Fanfic tropes for backstories. XD
19:10 this scene was hilarious to me. It's so funny how people treat native medicine compared to western medicine.
I didn't realize you posted. Your video thumbnail blended into the background
21:45 we all can agree having your finger hanging over the trigger of any weapon while muzzle flashing everything and everyone around you is grossly irresponsible and negligent. but! the woke props dept. forgot the 1911 is single action only. meaning with the hammer down the gun won't go boom when you jerk the trigger, at least the safety seams to be off.
Ya know I feel like there's a huge jump in logic in handing over your criminal empire to the girl who shot you in the eye? Doesn't that feel like it should be a deal breaker? As in should be like yeah bitch I was going to hand it over to you but then you want and shot me in the fcking eye. Like I don't know what fcked up relationship they might have because (that would require actual writing) that we don't see it at all. Kingpin and Echo may as be strangers and the show doesn't make any less sense.
Let's also not forget that Echo doesn't even exist in Daredevil Netflix so shoehorning in an relationship into a timeline that never existed is beyond being a dick to the original creators. Like imagine inserting Romeo had several other women lovers before Juliette. Sure you could write that but it wouldn't be a good idea.
Echo is supposed to be (at least part) "Ojibwe" Anishinabe. It's funny how they wouldn't look to actual Anishinabek folklore for inspiration. The shape-shifting super powers of a deity like Nanibijou would have been so much more interesting to see depicted than "the powers of her female ancestors." And lacrosse? Lacrosse is an Iroquois game, not Anishinabek. It's like depicting someone's Greek ancestors dancing the Horah instead of the Syrtaki. If they had actual Indigenous writers or advisors on this series, they sure as hell don't know much. Even the "intergenerational trauma" depicted is ridiculous. Couldn't they consult the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples for something a little more believable? There's no way in hell that any Anishinabe nokomis/grandma would act that way.
John, I'm glad you're having success.
You seem a normal dude, just with a weird accent.
Keep on keeping on. 🤟
Wtf the deaf super power ancestral indigenous shit... hollywood is going crazy FR
That summation of character reflection at the end Jonny is exactly what could have turned this turd into something truly worth watching. This could have been such an interesting show, but it got bogged down in all the shit of recent story telling trends.
The delayed kick is dumb because she loses all momentum turning the kick into a love tap at best while leaving you extremely open and unstable which is something an experienced fighter like daredevil could and would exploit instantly.
i did watch hawk eye but honestly i can't remember much
Very telling
Off beat kick was totally fine, fits the definition of a feint. Similar purpose to a question mark kick. Executed kinda poorly though, he just waits for it rather than getting caught off beat.
It’s attention to details that hit me! Handicap everywhere! The hairlip granny was the finishing touch!
When the video started there was no sound - I thought it was a bit. Nope, turns out my volume was just muted. True story. lol
Yes Jonny boy! Thanks for the Vid!
It's ok to say Echo was a terrible character cuz she can't hear us.
Jokes aside this is one of the most insensitive Movie by Disney so far.
That scene of mia's mom looking at her reminded me of the video I had to watch for drivers Ed. It was of a father walking his infant daughter down a park sidewalk thinking to himself "I love my daughter : )", then a drunk driver comes and runs right into them.
Here's why the show kick doesn't work... Daredevil just stands there and waits to be kicked
0:17
Actually he is my favorite Avenger in the MCU. Mostly because he's as good in the movies as he has been in shows like Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. But the Hawkeye show should have gone the same way that the Nick Fury show should have gone; with the young, upstart, girl-boss character getting removed from the story and the main character actually being the bad@$$.
As opposed to characters like Hulk, who honestly seems way too underpowered in these movies, and Black Panther that I really wish we had gotten more of and seen more abilities from (Rest in Peace Chadwick Boseman, you were impeccable).
Hey Jonny, one question: What editing software do you use?
I don't think these people understand that your clutch can work and you can go down gears to reduce your speed drastically... and then the car will just jolt to a halt if no acceleration was given. jezz... I guarantee you these people have never driven a manual before.
Good job my man. Very interesting :)
As soon as 1200 AD popped up on the screen I literally just yelled, "WHAT!" So glad I didn't even try to watch this.
Yeah I'm with you on the kick, I honestly thought the second she takes to connect the kick followed by the quick spin looked pretty nice, the baton to the leg looks odd, but if that's the leg that is metal, the lack of injury on echo would make sense, and you kind of see daredevil look a bit shocked that her leg didn't snap before she attacks him again, though i don't remember any other fight scenes, and the show dipped to nothingness after this scene
I know the series is stupid, but gotta tell that the reason the woman blames Echo's dad is bc he was part of the mafia and I think some rivals cut the brakes to kill her or something like that.
I feel like this is the kind of show Disney has been creaming themselves to make.
Honestly this feels like a bit of a parody or stereotype of what native American culture was like.
Third name for handbrake is emergency brake lmao
Was gonna comment this if no one else had 😂
'How many of you have seen Hokai?'
Me: confused
*Shows Hawkeye*
Ooooooooh!
These characters aren’t “ superheros,” they are normal @$$ girls.they saw that we idolized Thor, Tony, and Cap and want us to idolize normal @$$ girls.
Tx Jonny! Fabulous as always. I haven't watched Echo, not going to watch it and frankly, would rather watch your review 😅 cheers mate
...Echo is so forgettable that, until Johnny said, "Maya Lopez," I:
A: Asked myself, "Did he just call Kate Bishop, "Maya Lopez"?"
B: Remembered this ISN'T about Hawkeye, but Echo.
I was a huge fan of the bread dropping. I found bread to be an engaging dynamic character and I was in the edge of my seat.
11:00 "Our protagonist lost a leg because a shard of glass which is not supposed to be there any more caused an injury most experts would agree would never occur. Now, excuse me, I am writing out that scene where the insides of their abdomen is exposed and in contact with their shirt and they just wrap bandages on top of the wound, that will look so perfect on-screen!"
6:13 what a funny look. Who looks like that while driving?
Jonny was your house of the dragon review removed I went to look for them and they were gone
Came here for Jonny making fun of Echo, stayed for the bread drop!😆
I have to disagree with the trigger discipline example, the rule gernally goes "Dont put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot."
What was she doing? Clearing a hallway with the gun up, she was ready to shoot. Not only is that nitpicky, its wrong tbh.
If she had the gun by her side or in the low to ready position near her chest then sure but she literally has the gun up.
Stop giving me reasons to defend the show.
The amount of finger on that trigger was disgusting though.
You use the middle of the pad so that trigger pulls dont jerk the gun one way or the other.
She would be hitting left alot.
Your work is hilarious! You need many times more followers and you should be regularly live-streaming with Critical Drinker, The Little Platoon, Echo Chamberlain, and Despot of Antrim! PLEASE, SOMEONE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!
I definitely not gonna watch it, but ive watch this piece of culture and u r doing better it then marvel
Like my daddy always said, you gotta put a little extra butter on the biscuits to make a brotha mouth water.
Only 8mins late. Thanks Jonny. Perfect timing before the Liverpool vs Chelsea match 😁❤😁
correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't echo's powers that she has photographic reflexes, and can copy the skills of anyone she's seen in action, that she's a physical "echo" of other people?
why are her powers ancestral links? photographic reflexes are already cool, and make for better writing, imo.
The creators of this show literally dissed those original powers and made "echo" mean that she is an echo of her grandest of mothers who consumed the blue drank and destroyed paradise because this was "cooler"...
@@iro6758 does marvel studios, as in the film and tv side of the company, just think the powers are window dressing? that they're completely interchangeable and just there to be cool? because they're not.
they did the same thing with miss. marvel, where they swapped out her shape shifting powers, but in the comics her powers are actually important to who the character is, and if you change the powers you might as well just make a whole new character, or at least adapt a different one. in the case of echo, i'm actually kinda confused why they didn't use someone else because like, i don't think she's got the same name recognition as other marvel characters, so unless as a writer you actually like the character, why even.
You cant nail it anymore than that...
Also, her finger is shoved way too far thru the trigger guard. Also also, her left hand thumb should be on the frame just below the slide.
Lol. I like that u brought up her being ungrateful because I remember being so put off by her by her interactions with her grandpa who was so kind and loving to her, and also the way she treated her uncle I thought was douchey
16:31 that description alone is why I’m so disinterested in modern media nowadays. Maybe at one point in time it would have been cool, because the people writing something like that would have made it cool but now it’s just a mediocre check list. You know what you’re getting into the moment you hear a description like that.
The Winter Soldier (Amputee) is cool. Daredevil (disabled) is cool. Electra (woman) is cool.
There are other original indigenous superhero’s they could have used and improved on but they decided to go down this brain dead road.
You're definitely one of my favourite reviewers, the sarcasm is great 😂
Hawkeye was pretty good. No complaints there
Yeah, I enjoyed it. Better than most of the D+Marvel shows.
Then again, only Moon Knight and Loki are really anything worth talking about. Three out of....however many isn't great.
@@KnightsRealm98 I liked WandaVision a lot too for the most part. The dissonance between the happy go lucky sitcoms and whatever is truly happening was kinda disturbing.
They blew it with the end though.
I never noticed that the mother could have just drove into the field 😂
Tangentially related but apparently dogs can learn sign language and I think that’s cool.
At what point are we going to find out that McGyver was one of Echo's ancestors, gifting her the magical ability to fashion weapons out of spare parts?
I missed the motivation so she would like to have her family and everybody in this town pay for her crimes and connections to Kingpin? What a great hero.
You aren't Daredevil, lady.
"does not hold accountable for her action" just how many Marvel's heroines match that line already?
I thought Hawkeye will be about Hawkeye time as ronin and what he was doing between infinity war and endgame
Doctors and nurses come from a wide variety of ethnic backgrounds, so I think a hospital is just a hospital.
Your commentary is endlessly more entertaining than watching the series. Well done.
Awesome review! Way better than thus shiw deserves.
21:43 doesn't matter, the hammer is down and the gun won't fire anyway
Drive in America for 8 seconds and you’ll realize absolutely no one can drive
look... I can see them making Daredevil Work.
but I haven't heard anything good about Echo
I think someone at Marvel needs to go watch the Star Trek TNG episode 'Relics', season 6, episode 4 for a lesson on how to treat elder people.
The what now? 😮
Much respect for the Dunkey clip
Didn’t watch Echo but enjoyed your review 👍🏻👍🏻
Agreed……. That is all.
Marvel keeps on doing this thing (and it kinda happens in modern media in general) where you have a horrible person, doing horrible things but in the end they do one remotelly good thing and everyone else around acts like they're a good person and they wouldn't spend the rest of their lives in a box or anything. There is no moral compass, that shit's been thrown out the window and stepped on repeteadly.