Why Football Fans Need Safe Standing
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At Arsenal vs Olypiacos I was "sitting" at the clock end. We were chanting our lungs out despite the disappointing result. The stewards threatened to kick us out if we didn't sit down. Disgraceful in my opinion.
I agree. When I watched Liverpool get bet by West Ham in August 😞 the person next to me got kicked out because he was standing
That really pisses me off as an Arsenal fan, The Emirates has a reputation for a shit atmosphere and it's not the fans fault at all, it's the stewards that want everyone to sit silently and barely breath
we nearly got kicked out at Exeter v Liverpool for standing
Totally FOR safe standing, better atmosphere better for football !! Say no to "theatre" atmospheres!
+David Vujanić That is what going to the stadium is about: the Atmosphere. In Brazil, elitization has killed that.
+FABIOh1976 Ainda não matou a atmosfera, mas infelizmente está matando. Estádios como o Maracanã e o Mineirão, após a reforma pra Copa perderam a geral, que é a alma do futebol brasileiro, e os preços se elevaram. Apesar disso, especialmente em jogos decisivos ainda se consegue criar uma atmosfera boa, como em Itaquera, no Horto, e em qualquer estádio em jogos de Libertadores, principalmente. Mas se os nossos dirigentes não tirarem a cabeça do dinheiro e pensarem na torcida, isso vai morrer.
Celtic FC safe standing.
Say no to ultras the most unwanted part of football
My dad is 6ft3 and I'm 6ft2 when we sit down its near impossible to be comfortable and we have our knees in the backs of the people in front of us.
+Adam Chapman I know the struggle
+Adam Chapman Get what you mean, I support Carlisle in English League 2 (Division 4) and i'm 6ft4, I would hate to watch the game whilst getting crushed with no atmosphere. Thank God we do not have to obey these rules.
+Adam Chapman As a fellow Chelsea supporter you know in the family and west stand the seats are so compact and you are never allowed to stand.
+Adam Chapman I am roughly the same size as you and have been to two grounds where it was physically impossible for me to sit in the seat. One of the grounds no longer exists, which was the old Rotherham ground, so I am guessing that there will be more leg room at the new one. The other was Cheltenham Town, where if you are taller than 5ft 6ins I would advise you not to sit in the main stand...as you would be in for a very uncomfortable 90 minutes.
+Adam Chapman I know exactly how you feel haha
So true! Swansea need this massively, every premier league teams should have a safe standing section
YJB
Fair play you lot make a great atmosphere at the Liberty
prices and no standing is ruining bpl atmospheres.
nick whufc so true theyre ruining it !
+George R would be brilliant in the northam end
it makes me sad that at most grounds in England the noise comes from the away fans, but they all stand and sing none stop. imagine if all home fans were like away fans
Spot on
+George o'callaghan That could never happen though. Away fans are the most die hard fans, they travel everywhere to support their teams. While home fans can be casuals and so on.
Chigz10 you're right I guess but it would improve the atmospheres from the sorry state they are in.
+Chigz10 True. Glasgow im from so no chance we could drive down to London for an Arsenal game. Instead we go to Sunderland and Newcastle games. Still takes 6 hours both ways but worth it. The atmosphere as away fans is just amazing. Cant beat it but heard about it being absolute rubbish at Emirates which Im sad about. But I can say as a Glasgow Rangers fan the atmosphere In Ibrox our home stadium is phenomenal. But we need some standing seats for the blue order and such. The stadium is great otherwise. Where as at the stadium of light and St James park we stand throughout the game dont use the seats! Its very slippy and steep though. Safe standing is a great option. Being allowed to stand safely but sitting comfortably aswell.
+Arsenal Daily I agree. The only Mach I've seen the away fans drowned us all out
Uefa wants docile plastic fans. That' why for international competitions all clubs must have a 100% seated stadium.
protests changed that; another big dub for the germans
So proud that my club, Celtic, are now the first British team to introduce safe standing!
Yep 🍀🍀
Ayr have had it at somerset park since 1888 (Ayr FC till 1909, Ayr Utd till now), lol, although i'm an Ayr fan I love watching Celtic games and you have one of the best atmospheres in the world, glad to see clubs with all seated stadiums start to bring standing back (hope you continue to hammer rangers and killie).
Yup 🇮🇪 🍀
@@SilasGreenback Somerset isn't safe standing. It's just old fashioned terracing. I don't think Somerset Park has changed since the 19th century haha. Great old stadium and still a good atmosphere when it gets going in Cup games and against Killie and Celtic.
@@tonyh7994 best ground in the world, could do with a new 6 to 10,000 seat main stand.
Wonderful vid! Absolutely spot on! How can we force a change though?
+PeterZeGreek Glad you enjoyed the vid. As John mentions in the video to get behind this you can go to your local mp and your club to show your support of the campaign.
Copa90 wish I could do more as an overseas fan! LETTER WRITING TIME!
+PeterZeGreek yo you gave me an idea. thanks man
+PeterZeGreek I'm just writing for a different topic in football for my club cfr cluj. what club are you writing for?
Sign the petition on the government website
I do feel for the terrace man with the key though lol. 25k seats
***** I think you're right, but I think BVB has 25k
Haha I assume there's more then one
Haha I assume there's more then one
+Cameron Ketch BVB is a mix of terraces and safe standing
+Cameron Ketch BVB doesn't have this "safe standing" though. they just have a permanent terrace, and they put in temporary seats for UEFA matches
i remember a few years back when fulham were in the prem. when we scored at chelsea, where the seats are so compacted i could of broke my leg because people behind me were jumping in the back of me so i jumped in the back of the person infront and so on and so forth, and because of the seat my leg got trapped. safe standing would allow you to go absolutely mental while being absolutely safe.
Safe standing is needed !!!!!!
Fantastic video! As an avid fan of active support i agree with safe standing! Unfortunately i feel that while this is close to a reality in England and other European countries, it is still light years away from taking place in Australia where i live :(
Hey Jarrad. Oddly enough, there is a lot of safe standing in the USA right now. DC United's Audi Field, Minnesota United's Allianz Field, LAFC's Banc of California Stadium, and Orlando's Exploria Stadium are all safe standing stadiums.
MLS has loads of safe standing stadiums, Banc of California Stadium (LAFC) Allianz Field (MNUFC), among others.
Buzzing for safe standing in Parkhead next year! Roll on the party
I'm a Rangers fan and I am totally supportive of safe standing. Wish we could get the broomloan front safe standing.
Can't wait hail hail
You'll be able to get like 10% more fans in the ground with standing
Maybe you'll half fill your ground
+NathanHD Games Green Brigade 111 section corner is perfect for the amount that is in it
They might as well do it at most stadiums because there's pretty much always a section of fans that stand up throughout the game
Even at championship teams, I go to Bolton home games and in the stand that I sit in everyone stands up so it would be safer anyway to have these safe standing stands
+AIDEN_js Completely agree. I go to every Rotherham United game and where I sit (Or should i say stand) everyone in that section stands for the whole 90 minutes, and It creates a great atmosphere for everyone in that section and encourages other fans to stand up. As mentioned, I'm pretty sure 90% of championship clubs have these sections that stand, so why not simply put in safe standing, not only is it safe so you can't fall over (At New York Stadium, the home of Rotherham united it's definitely not safe to stand, because the angle of the Kop stand is very steep indeed) it also gives you something to lean on if your legs/back gets tired.
Even a section at Chesterfield stands up, every game all game
AIDEN_js I'm a Wigan fan and we have around 200 fans that are stood in one corner. I still stand but I'm not in that corner but no stewards tells anybody to sit down. That's how football should be.
The reason there is no standing areas in BPL is thanks to the clubs being run by corporate interests. With seats only, you attract a different kind of crowd which in most cases have fatter wallets. And they're still selling out their grounds. Until there is a moneymaking prospect in the introducing of safe stands, it probably wont happen. The exception would probably be if the FA stepped in and regulated a minimum amount of stands (scaling to the capacity of each clubs stadium), but that's not likely either.
However, excellent video!
But the standings section puts more people in the stadium, therefore more tickets and more money
Standing accommodation is one of the big reasons why the Bundesliga's atmosphere is way better than the Premier League's one.
TheMusicGuard Another big reason is that Premier League has shit, plastic fans
@@stenstensson304 only in top 6 you'll never hear of a Burnley fan from America
Joseph Dickens But the atmosphere at every game is still shit
I would love to see safe standing introduced at Anfield. Hillsborough happened, largely, because of those huge pen/cage things the fans were herded into, as well as bad management. I really hope all stadiums find a way to introduce this safe standing. JFT96.
Yes! Safe standing is the future!
Hopefully the remodelled StamfordBridge has some...
Yeah I hope so too man
+Anti Troll I would love that
+Anti Troll I think the plastic seats are more suited to Chelsea tbh... Joking aside safe standing needs to happen. I wish England fans were more like the Germans are.
+James I think if the changes were made to the stadiums. We would see a change in the actions of the fans. The passion is doubtlessly there.
Germany always do football right. Main reason to visit Germany
The quality of these copa90 videos is blowing me away recently. Congrats on such a varied number of topics covered.
I completely agree. Although I haven't had the opportunity to actually go to Emirates Stadium, watching an Arsenal game, even behind a television, I can feel how dull and inspirited the fans are. And the one thing I love watching during any football match is the crowd. It gives me goosebumps to watch everyone go absolutely mental when a goal is scored or when even a goal down, the fans chant their hearts out. I see this all the time in any bundesliga game but unfortunately, never in the BPL. If I do get to see the Arsenal at the Emirates, the number one thing on my bucket list, I want to be able to sing, move, and just really get behind the team.
A bit of a rant, but great video as usual Copa90. Keep up the good work.
I'm a Crystal Palace fan, and I stand up all game in the lower Holmesdale stand, singing along for 90 minutes, waving flags... Safe standing would only improve the overall match day experience, I also think that it improves the look of the stadium.. but that's just my opinion.
One year ago CSKA Sofia did this to one of the greatest stands-Sector G. Until the late 90s there were benches, then we had like those British all-seated stands but some of the seats were broken because we standed on top of them singing, jumping and supporitng for 90 minutes. It's even better than Hannover now because it's more spacious as the fans told their opinion, you can check it. Yeah, we can't play in Europe like that but we're in third division now.... Kур за БФС... Great Episode
Hey, I'm from Germany and for me it's hard to imagine to have no stabding areas. You notice the diffrence between international matches and league matches in a really negative way. No matter where you are, at St. Pauli, Dortmund or Berlin, it's a main part of german football culture. I hope you bring them back soon to the BPL!
Can you imagine a safe standing kop...
Bring back the old Kop, never seen the old Kop in person but the one now is nowhere near as good as it was back then.
The atmosphere would be insane.The Kop and Anfield as a whole is still very frightening for opposition teams without standing terraces.Imagine how frightening it was back then with standing terraces,and how frightening it will be if it returns.
So true. We all know full well that if you travel to an away match, you're going to enjoy the game, have a great atmosphere and get behind your team. I can't be the only one who turns up for a home game (Birmingham city) and dreads getting out sung by the 1500 away fans. I would go to every single home game if I could stand. Until then I'm an away supporter.
Safe standing at the Kop would be excellent to have. It’s not what it used to be but it’s a step in the right direction
I support liverpool
as he said 96 people died because of the police not managing crouds is would love to see the kop as a standing section how amazing would that be
Great vid. I can't wait to see safe standing in the uk and for us to replicate those scenes from Germany
USA: Sure thing buckaroo.
STANDING AT THE STRETFORD END
I love it how supporters from England, Scotland and Wales agree to the safe standings.
Keep it up, lads!! Hope one day every PL club has a safe standing sector.
The only reason we have all seater stadia in England was to absolve South Yorkshire Police for their role in Hillsborough by blaming the idea of terracing while neglecting the role that incompetent policing and fences around the terracing pens.
Seeing the Bayern and Dortmund atmospheres are absolutely amazing. Just imagine it in England 😍😍
i'm from the states and am very proud my local club LAFC has a safe standing section. BLACK AND GOLD!
I was at the HDI arena for Pre season with Sunderland standing the whole game created a great atmosphere
Totally agree have been at The Liberty stadium many times and parts of the stadium everyone is standing
qpr just got these in the loft and it's made a massive impact on atmosphere I think it's mint.
Saw your guys' ad at a bus stop today. it was a class idea
Can't wait for safe standing at Celtic park it will make the atmosphere much better especially during European matches 🍀🍀🍀
Rangers fan, all supportive of safe standing, but you can't have safe standing at European games, UEFA rules.
+StevenRFC_ they can still stand in the same way, they can just put the seats up
And against Partick Thistle
IT WORKS AT CELTIC
I totally agree with the safe standing rule, and that everyone in the stadium embraces the feeling of football. In the future I hope to see many a stadium pass this action.
Smashing it as always! Top Class.
Totally agree !
very admirable efforts by copa90. love it :)
Liked the video before even watching it. Completely agree!
I take it for granted as a Bristol rovers fan most of the ground is standing and the atmosphere is so good better then sitting down
Great video, with you all the way on that one!
I agree with you guys on this one!! We need safe standing back in the Premier League!!
So glad to see my team, Celtic, doing this. Can't wait
something I never really thought about, nice video
Absolutely love the video! Disgraceful that fans in grounds all over the country are kicked out due to standing, every ground deserves a safe standing area
Well done boys. Outstanding video and a fantastic message
Brilliant video. Fans experience is vital.
The cost of implicating safe standing is a drop in the ocean, especially with the new £5 billion TV deal. Clubs could easily facilitate this and its obvious the atmosphere at games would improve.
Imagine the Stretford End and the Kop end two of the most famous terrace stands in Europe all being made all standing with everyone singing and getting into the game. The league needs this.
I defiantly think this is a boss idea because firstly it will separate real fans from the plastic fans, because it will show who's passionate about there to support there team week in and week out and then there's the fans who are just there for a day out. Also for clubs such as Liverpool (my club) it will make the atmosphere great again which will get behind the team and encourage the team to play not just for the shirt but for the fans.
I need this so bad. We all do. We all love atmosphere.
This morning I was completely against it, but the more I think about it the more I begin to be in faour. I am unable to go to games for my club (due to my age and limited resources) but I am going to see Liverpool play Bilbao in the Aviva in Dublin, but I cant really imagine the atmosphere being as good as some GAA matches I have been to because, singing, cheering and having fun isnt really possible from sitting down. This system takes into account almost all of the old faults with standing and deals with them while also including the seated element.
Like I said I was firmly against it this morning, but now I am struggling to see any reason why we should not have it.
brilliant vid!!!
this is such a great idea. i support hereford fc and we still have standing terraces. we pack 2,000 supporters each week into the terraces. it would be a.great idea to get SAFE standing areas into bigger clubs! it would increase the number of supporters and the atmosphere would be insane with more standing in top clubs
im a cork city fc fan and we are known in ireland for having a section with standing but thats a fan 1 with no safe standing bars it would be briliant to see the atmosphere im the rest of the world
I just want to add that in my opinion it's better not because it becomes a "Safe Stand" but beacuse it allows the fans to be even more wild and extreme
Great stuff, spot on.
In Austria the Red bull Arena has safe standing which takes up half the stadium in a stadium used for European matches
Red Bull Salzburg is still a shit plastic Club without any tradition
getting rid of standing was one of the best things that ever happened. i remember as a child going to a spurs game and seeing the ball twice in 90 minutes if you stand you are just being selfish and blocking the kids
Fucking spastic
james brown How do you come to that conclusion? In countries with actual fans, it's usually the dedicated supporters that stand, even ultras if your team has them. Most ultras are at least 15, so that's not an issue. Not our fault that kids are standing in the midst of adults. That's their fault, they chose to be there. Maybe they can just stand in the front row?
In the Everton away end it's kind of standing, the seats are set up in a way to encourage standing
San Jose Earthquakes stadium has a standing terrace. If we can do it in the States, I'm sure it can be done in England.
what a great video I totally agree!!!!
Most fans over here in Ireland stand it adds to the atmosphere so much
I am an Oxford supporter and stand in the east stand, i always get my ticket in the top row and behind this is a walkway/path. I was standing there for around 10seconds with my mate before a steward forced us to sit in our seats even though it was 30mins before ko he stood behind us and walked behind us so we couldn't carry on standing there. My other mate told me he was threatened to be kicked out if he didn't go back to his seat even though he was just getting a flag even though he's aloud.#legalize safestanding
With fans standing, football would be more enjoyable for everyone, the fans in the stadium, the players on the pitch and even fans watching it on the telly. The 12th man would really start to matter!
Didn't expect to see my club on this, we've been campaigning for safe standing for a while but it's been ignored largely due to the other issues surrounding Cardiff over the last couple years, it makes sense that safe standing should be allowed
This is definitely the future. I'm pretty sure Spurs are building their new stadium with one of the massive. "kop" style ends that not only is supposed to be the biggest in england (I'm pretty sure about that), but it's also essentially built for conversion for safe standing.
brilliant!!
I support a League Two club, where a lot of the away ends are standing and the atmosphere is so much better than all seater terraces. To be honest a lot of the fans stand in front of their seats anyway so all seaters just make it more inconvenient.
I am a season ticket holder at Hull City and I'm in the North Stand where everyone stands up and the stewards don't seem to have a problem with it.
absolutely agree
This is what football should be about enjoying the game and embracing it. My local club Doncaster Rovers used to have a stadium called Belle Vue where seating was pretty much irrelevant. The club moved at the start of 2007 into an all seated stadium just before they went up into the championship. Since then our club atmosphere has died and there are hardly any supporters going to games. As nice as the new stadium is it has never had the same atmosphere as the old ground. The Germans have enhanced bundesliga clubs atmosphere and Celtic are the first Scottish club to give it a chance. Hope it does come into the English game once again.
Quality video Copa90, keep up the good work! Do more non league videos please :)
What I don't understand is why some people have a problem with the idea. It was about 3 years ago now that we realised Hillsborough was cause by the police not doing their job properly as opposed to fans standing up, I support Carlisle and go in the standing section every week but my safety is not affected because we are not shoved into little pens filled with double the amount of people it can fit. Good luck to teams in higher leagues getting safe standing.
Absolutely smashing vid!! I would love standing in football, and clearly everyone agrees, what do we do though to get the nod??
Orlando City Soccer Club will be the first club in the US with a safe standing area when their new stadium opens next MLS season.
Can't wait for it at Paradise
Can't wait for safe standing in Celtic park 😛coybig
Safe standing at paradise next season, buzzing!
Safe standing has brought a great atmosphere to celtic Park 🍀
Great video!
One thing that I don't understand though is why you need a safe standing? It's definitely a step in the right direction but I don't see why you can't go all out and make it "full standing sections" or whatever you wanna call it. Here in Sweden along with a lot of other European countries standing sections is a part of the culture. Always has, always will be. The tragic Hillsborough disaster did not happen because of the standing section. It happened because of poor managing from the police and the outrageous fences in front of the section. It looked like a prison!
If the police can manage the sport events better (which I'm sure they can) and the supporters are treated better there should be no problem with standing sections.
Great video! would be nice to see someone question Jurgen Klopp about it. Going to the match against Rubin Kazan tomorrow, severely worried that the atmosphere won't compare to that in the Westadfalion.
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Bristol City trialed safe standing, but due to stadium redevelopment, they had to remove that section.
We need one of these at PSV Eindhoven!
We need to bring back standing areas to all clubs in England because it take the passion out of the game @Copa90
Fantastic video (Cardiff City fan)
I'm a Brentford fan and we have TWO terraces. Yes TWO, standing terraces. It's fucking brilliant.
Make it happen!
Just get a seat that the sitting part can move down when sat on but remains up rest of the time. You can sit down at half time and it saves a caretaker hours.
I agree wholeheartedly with what the guy at 2:33 says
Quicker they get safe standing in the better, many people stand regardless. Maybe you should come to the ipro stadium and see that the whole of the south stand stands on home games. Safe Standing is a must!
we had standing at Yeovil and it's amazing and I find it frustrating at away games like Portsmouth and Oxford where we have to sit
That's because you're tinpot though...... Js
+ACEofLiMiiTzZ go back to the banter group 😂😂
I've been to Yeovil with Huddersfield and its standing but it's not safe standing
Don't need safe standing tbf but I remember the heart breaking game versus Huddersfield 😔😔😔
I agree Safe Standing needs to be reviewed by all premier league clubs it benefits them from a financial point of view and a most importantly an atmospherically point of view.