Hori Fighting Commander Octa for PS4, PS5, and PC Review
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- I've been using the Razer Raion since it came out. When this was announced, it piqued my interest. Could this $50-$60 fight pad from Hori outclass the $80-$110 one from Razer?
0:00 - Intro
0:12 - Unboxing
0:56 - Physical tour
2:37 - Button layout
4:16 - Extra functions
7:15 - Octagonal gated analog stick
8:35 - Dpad accuracy
12:06 - Face button microswitches
14:03 - Recommendations
15:23 - Drawbacks and cons
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Best review ive seen for this. I know you felt the video was kind of long but for an in depth review that isnt half assed i think it more than justified the time. Just finished ordering one now and thankful for the pro review on it! Subbed and liked as well TY
YESS insta sub, I was looking for a vid comparing it to the raion(hopefully with the rev2 or pivot fix)
Thanks for the breakdown!
Very informative! I may get both because I collect anything 6 Buttons
Hey sorry for the late response! Have you gotten them? What do you think?
@@BimBurger yup!
I got my Octa!
It plays great playing the SF6 Demo
Just gotta comment super late in your vid, the d-pad sens settings sounds so dope. I can understand for sure a use for that with the games I want to play. I just don’t have a pc to modify that unfortunately. Thanks for the video.
You hit the nail on the head with the Octa. If they had put the clickiness and speed the D-pad instead, I would have been 10 already.
Yeah - but then, you'd have a Razer Raion :D
This controller feels like a bootleg razer raion tbh
Is the hori THAT bad??
where do i find the app i just bought a new ps5 octa and cant seem to work it with the app it is stuck on device manager for xbox
my google drive can't scan the file for virues its on official site ? should i download it
Hi, great video. I saw that you did a review on Logitech F710 as well. Do you think this is a good alternative if you’re someone who’s accustomed to the F710’s pad? or would you say Raion is better? Thanks in advance!
The F710's dpad is the closest to the Raion than any other controller I've tried before, so yeah.
@@BimBurger Thanks for the answer! I’m looking for a controller that’s similar to F710 but is usable on the Playstation. Keep up the good work, Imma subscribe.
@BimBurger
The SOCD on the dpad vs shoulders buttons is what
if you press back+forward with shoulder buttons = forward or neutral ¿ i want to know if I map the shoulder buttons to directions like back or front what will happen if I press back and then with shoulder buttons press forward ¿ is it last win or neutral ¿
Lemme test that.
@@BimBurger please update me after you test that
It has turbo?
Nice review. Do you know how to have PC fighting games display the PlayStation buttons when using the hori controller? Every time I plug it in and load up a fighting game it display buttons in game as xbox buttons.
Some games support it natively, like just plugging in a DualShock or DualSense controller will give you the PS prompts, but some games require mods. For Tekken, I use a mod.
Hey Bim the kombat pad for mortal kombat 9 and 10 and 11 had a 6 button layout and I love that controller and that is because I still play games on my PS4 and I want to buy a PS5 and buy mortal kombat 1 but that's what I'm skeptical about so what controller should I buy if I buy a PS5.
The Hori Fighting Commander Octa works for the PS5 natively so that should work.
Thanks for the Video! I want to buy this Controller only for PC usage, which version should i buy, the PS or Xbox one ?
Either one would work but Xbox probably just because it's all Xinput.
Does the playstation version come with the firmware update that removes the d-pad automatically registering nuetral inputs while rolling your thumb around? This was a huge complaint i heard avout the xbox version.
That happens with the Razer Raion, too, so I'm guessing it's an SOCD thing.
Am interested in this but I heard the dpad & shoulder buttons on the xbox version kinda easy to break. Anyone has first hand experience using this ps version for some time?
Me! Well sort of - been using it since it came out locally, which hasn't been very long. It's holding up fairly well.
Do you get the same input errors as the Raion(not low blocking just standing up) in games like SF5 or Strive?
No, because unlike the Raion, the dpad of the Octa doesn't allow for all buttons to be pressed at once that causes SOCD cleaning.
Swear I hated this most !!
@@BimBurger interesting so how does this work? I have a dualshock 4 and put individual dpad buttons in it from battlebeaver and it works great. But, these buttons are kinda flimsy. And when you have to replace them you have to take apart your controller which isn’t bad but not fun either
Is the dpad good on this thing? In what way? Do you get less diagonals? How does the whole adjusting dpad sensitivity work?
I do NOT a understand why companies do not just build a solid dpad that doesn’t register diagonals so easy. With mk11, you want down forward, not down diag forward. Do individual dpad buttons work great.
Does this accomplish that ? Thx for review
@@howdydoodydoo3631 I thought I already answered these questions, but doesn't seem like I have. I'll do my best.
The dpad is okay. I still think the Raion is better once you get used to the weirdness of having 8 switches. I think the DS4/ DualSense dpads are better still. But the Octa dpad is still very usable, but I don't think it's the best experience on the market.
The way sensitivity works is that the controller just requires more force per button or combination of buttons (for diagnonals) before it goes ahead and gives the signal that a direction has been pressed to the computer or console. If you completely bring diagonals' sensitivity down, you have to REALLY press hard on the two cardinal directions before it registers as a press.
For the MK11 d - f without going df, I think it's okay for that, although I did suffer a few unintentional jumps while shimmying. Decreasing the sensitivity on the diagonals helps quite a bit.
@@BimBurgerthe Dual Sense pad is better? That Road is frustrating me so much and is the reason I want a fight pad. The Razer is not available in my country. You think this will be a bad buy? I just want a better Dpad than Dual Sense. 6 buttons on face side are a plus off course. I don't care for the octostick.
Hey, do you recommend this item for first timers like myself? I’m looking to purchase this item to play street fighter but I’m going to try out the regular PS5 controller before I have a verdict
I would sooner recommend any fight pad to a beginner than I would the hitbox or mixbox or any arcade stick, simply because they're 1. cheaper, 2. easier to get into if you've used any controller before. There's less of a learning curve.
Hello, in 10:30 you change the sensibility of the dpad on your pc. is this setting is saved after if i go on ps5 /ps4 or another PC for a tournament or something ? thanks for the video !
It's saved on the controller in the onboard memory.
@@BimBurger Thanks !
How do you know if the dpad adjust carries on to the ps5? Apparently the profiles only save on pc mode.
Is that right? Let me test that again.
Thanks a lot, please let me know your finds.
Looked up that xbox version has their own software and can adjust their dpad sens.
I tried on the ps5 version and as I’ve already explained earlier i got no luck. I just wanna be able to block, might buy razer raion if i dont solve this issue.
Does anybody know how to reset the controller's firmware back to factory settings? I accidentally updated it with the old version (first release) firmware update, and now it won't detect on my PC. :(
Hey man, were you able to get it to work? The PC app didn't help you at all?
Good to know, thanks.
Great review,may I ask your personal opinion if this dpad particularly good for Tekken?
I would say this works better for 6-button fighters like SFV but yeah, it works with Tekken too if you map stuff to the shoulder buttons.
What did you use to change de sensibility, all I found in the Hori website is the file that says "HORI Device Manager Setup 1.0.30" and all my software warns me about it, thank you for the video!
I think that's it and yes for some reason Windows warns against it like crazy.
Will the customizations made on the companion app on PC carry over to PS5?
Wanna know the same. Did you find out?
I've been looking for a fight pad that can perform clean diagonal inputs because there is this blocking technique in GG Strive that requires you to repeatedly press diagonal down. With regular dpad you'll likely back dash accidentally or won't block at all because it's difficult to press back and down at the exact same time. If this controller solves that then I would want to buy it.
Hmmm, I'm not sure, actually. I have trouble with electrics with this thing because of the way the dpad is shaped. It's not that I find it hard to hit diagonals, but I feel like it is physically connected to both the down and left and right directions. I think you could make it work through the software. You can probably reduce the sensitivity of the cardinal directions to make the diagonals more sensitive.
@@BimBurger hi Dear, thanks for the feedback just a follow up question about
D-pad VS shoulder buttons
if I map the shoulder buttons to directions what will happen if you press back+forward with shoulder buttons = forward or neutral ?
also with Dpad back and then with shoulder Button forward = forward or Neutral ?
@@imohbalu hey so if you map it that way, you don't get neutral. If you hold back then press a shoulder button mapped to forward, you get forward.
If you hold down then map a button to up, you get up, not neutral.
@@BimBurger okk.. Thanks dear... But what about doing that but only with shoulder buttons. Back and front
With shoulder button hold back and then with shoulder press forward = neutral or forward?
Does the hori app apply the changes to the dpad when used on ps4/ps5?
Yup, changes are saved onboard the controller.
The razor raion is not offical for ps5 games I seen :/ someone testet with the brook wingman Stick and games like tekken 8 Mk1?
So I’ve been looking for a small ps5 controller Alternative that’s more of the size of a ps4 controller. With that said , how smaller than the ps5 controller is this one, is it like the size of a PS4 controller ?
It's longer than the Dualshock 4, but it's a lot more comfy to hold than the Dualsense, especially for small hands like mine.
great review! im looking for a new controller since sadly my raion dpad has gotten loose and has a hard time registering diagonal inputs now (which really sucks because ive only used it for about 2 months and it's my fav fighting game controller). I tried going into the controller and fixing it myself since i had already modded the controller when i got it and put a lil pivot in the center of the dpad so it doesnt input all directions at once but I wasnt able to find a problem other than I think the elasticity of the rubberpad membrane has gotten worse. I hear razer has silently updated the controller and now has a pivot in the dpad but I fear the same thing will happen and it will get loose fairly quickly, how has your raion held up to now btw because im curious about it's durability and maybe i just got unlucky. the raion these days is also dirt cheap 30$ so i might just get another one even with the risk, tho the commander octa is definitely giving it a run for its money.
for me a big feature of the octa is that is has a notched analog stick (i also hear it's less loose than most analog sticks which is great for fighting games) because before i got the raion i used to just use the ps4 analog stick because i despise using dpads, in fact for the raion i actually just hot glued an old n64 thumbstick to it and essentially made a tiny arcade joystick which was perfect but alas didnt last long. also it's kind of funny a lot of your cons are actually pros for me, I prefer holding a fightpad like a controller so the handle is great and the clicky buttons is also a pro since i dont smack the buttons either. sorry for the rant lol but all that in mind i think im gonna end up getting the hori instead since it seems to have more features i care about and will hopefully last longer.
I love that you bring a whole new point of view to it. Yes, of course, everything I brought up was mostly personal preference because the controller in and of itself is fantastic, and the only things I found wrong were essentially nitpicks.
My Raion is still good, I use it for SF and GG Strive. I do get the weird jump input every now and again, but I think the controller is still holding strong.
my Razer Raion I bought was brand new with a pivot pre-installed. It lasted a little more than two weeks, before it stopped registering down forward diagonals. Already requested a return order from Amazon. Thankfully it broke within the warranty period or I would have wasted 90 dollars. It just does not last. I could feel the diagonals missing more and more lately. Until finally one diagonal on the lower right side just stopped working all together.
How does it work on mk1
Hi Thanks for the video. I ordered the xbox version of this controller but is there a huge difference ps and xbox versions?
No not really. Just compatibility as far as I know.
Can it be repaired whenever the d-pad,buttons and analog are broke?
I would assume so, but parts are going to be hard to come by.
Where did you get the non Xbox device manager software for the controller?
Ok so I got this when it was only released in Japan, right, so the way I had to get it was weird.
In the box, there's a manual with qr codes. When I scanned the English version, it gave me a broken page. Now I assume it's been fixed.
If not, then get the Japanese manual from the QR code on the same sheet. It should lead you to a Google drive with the executable file.
Does this have turbo mode?
Where did you find the download for the Hori Device Manager for the PS version of the Octa? I can't find it anywhere.
I found it on the JP site. You can scan the QR code on the instruction manual.
same here, imposible find it
My ps5 controller suffers from drift and more annoyingly if my leg is in between the controller and the console the controller becomes unresponsive. Anyone know if this has better responsiveness or is it a console problem?
This is wired so I don't think it'll have the same connectivity issues.
Had a friend receive his and on arrival it wasn't recognized on pc. He followed a firmware update guide and we checked to see the firmware is FOR the PS5 Octa, but now the controller is only recognized as a Hori Apex Racing Wheel...... Anyone else experience or fix this?
As a racing wheel?!? Wtf sounds like a weird firmware update. I wonder if there's a way to factory reset it. Lemme look that up
Ive found a lot of people installing the wrong firmware or something. People were bricking their controllers (like you did) with firmware. HORI really mismanaged this... I don't know if you have the XBOX or PS version of the Octa... if you have the XBOX version, you update using the HORI app on the MS Store. I don't know how the PS version is handled.
Where can I find the download to the HORI Device manager?
I found it through hori.jp/manual/ps5/spf-023
I have aDHD and other problems, if my conroller has a joystick and a dpad ill keep using both and never master either
Can you install the app on ps5 also or must you install it on pc?
PC only I'm afraid.
Would you recommend either controller for 2D games in general in addition to fighting games? I think the dual sense d pad is too mushy.
Well if you think the DualSense is mushy, you might not dig the Octa. The Razer Raion though might be up your alley.
@@BimBurger thanks! Not sure mushy is the right word. I like ps4 dpad better than ps5. Also like Saturn version 2, Super Nintendo, and psvita dpads. Seems like ps5 has too much travel in combination with a strange feel imo. I really like the rest of the controller though. I did install a kit on the dual sense to make the buttons clicky and I like it but it’s not perfect.
@@yarayar1 If you like em clicky, you'll love the Raion.
damn, what happen to the turbo button feature for this controller
this pad doesnt have turbo mode ?
How do I change the sensitivity on for it on the PS5?
You'd still need the software for it on a laptop or PC.
Hey bim a nother question.on my labtop i only find Hori device manager for xbox does this works with hori fc octa for ps5 ?
This fight pad is for ps4- ps5 - and for pc.greet
That bit of software will NOT work on the PS5 Octa. At least, I can't get it to work, at least. I had to get the PS5 Octa-specific software.
@@BimBurger i only find the device Manager for xbox,there is noting for ps5 or pc.what should i do ?
@@mucahiteki7302 Scan the QR codes on the manual, bro.
@@BimBurger aaah! I will on thursday i become my Dpad ! Then i will scan the qr code thanks for your help bro.
I pre-ordered the octa but noticed the raion is currently priced at 60€, should I cancel the order and go for the raion ?
Personally yeah, but some people hate the Raion dpad with the passion of a thousand burning suns.
@@BimBurger thanks, I'll give a try and refund it if I share that opinion
The Razer d pad didn't suit me at all I kept getting miss inputs. I expected it to be more like a Sega Saturn pad, so maybe the hori d pad on this would work better for me.
Maybe! That was one of the chief complaints with the Raion. I just got kinda used to it eventually.
I got the rev2 raion that came with a pivot to fix that issue, there are also videos online on how to fix the original raion pretty easily, after the fix it becomes the best dpad
I'm a fight pad player myself. I've used the fighting commander before this one, I'm currently using the raion, but I think the best one I've used with the six button layout is the 8bitdo m30. It has the same circular dpad but the cross is more pronounced. The face buttons are solid once you get used to the size of the upper three buttons (which are smaller), and the shoulder buttons are satisfying to press. My biggest issue with it is that it's really small and it has caused my hands to cramp, and also since it's only a switch/PC controller, I can't use it in PS4 tournaments.
I'm kind of tempted to pick this one up just to try out the novelty of playing with the gated analog stick with the six button layout. I only play soul calibur so there's a bigger deal of 3d movement, wonder how it works with the analog stick. I actually know of one soul calibur player, an Ivy main, who uses the analog stick to pull off her command grabs. Thanks for the vid!
The m30 is the Sega Genesis-looking type deal, right? I might go ahead and check that one out too. I grew up as a Genesis kid, so I do kinda miss that controller.
Is you're raion the rev2? Or have you done the pivot fix to the of raion?, Cause with that it's the best dpad
@@sheikhu1039 There's a Raion rev 2? I didn't know!
No, haven't done the pivot fix. Had to look it up actually after you mentioned it. It's not something I think I'd do.
@@BimBurger yea me neither, I wasn't gonna buy it atfirst till I saw the fix, wish I saw it sooner , so many people hate this pad when there's an easy fix, wish they knew, maybe make a vid on it?
@@sheikhu1039 I could but I don't actually hate the Raion. It just took some getting used to.
Is this controller good for games like guilty gear? That's mainly what I'll be using this for if I get it.
Yeah, I'd say so - you can easily change the button configuration in game so you can do dust on R1 and maybe RC on R2 so they're accessible on the face buttons. It's pretty neat!
so how does it compare to the raion? i didnt hear it through the review
I personally prefer the Raion, but there's a lot to like about the Octa, too - especially if you use the stick a lot.
What sensitivity is recommended and optimal for this controller?
Which ever suits you the best. It will depend heavily on preference and the game.
Great review. How can i use turbo on this controller to assign one button to repeatedly keep being pressed? is that possible?
Lemme check and get back you.
@@BimBurger Thank you, I would really appreciate that 🙏🏼
@@JohnnyBaz85 so it seems there's no physical way to do it but I think the software can do it, hold on
@@BimBurger i was hoping to use the turbo function on the PS5 for a game that requires repeated button presses for an insane trophy
How do I get the software for this controller? I can't find it anywhere. Can you help, please...
Scan the QR code on your manual :)
@BimBurger thanks I found the link in my manual...didn't have a QR code ... thank you tho gonna try the link
how do I install the firmware for this controller?
Grab the software off the website. I had the controller before the Western release so the software was very hard to find. I bet it's out now though. I haven't checked.
I don't own the Razer fightpad so I will definitely try this Hori one. I'm looking forward to seeing if I like it as the old Hori fightpad was good but would go bad after awhile. Hopefully I will enjoy the octa, as I hate Sony D-pads for fighting games, it struggles hard with diagonals and quick inputs.
Sony dpads are the GOAT in my opinion though. I can see why some people don't like em - they're too separate but that's what keeps me from getting muddy with my inputs.
I find them good for side scrollers but thats about it lol
Razer pad sucks unless I got a faulty one
I can’t even buy a new Razer raion in Canada. So I’m over it. I’d like to buy a hori Octa instead but I heard that the d-pad needs a firmware update. But then I hear the update could brick controllers. I also noticed the firmware update has been taken down. Advice ?
Man, I have searched far and wide (Pokémon reference lol) for a fight stick here in Canada and the options are barebones at the moment. The only fight stick that I’ve seen for sale here in Canada is the fighting stick alpha (the one I want) which was readily available but now is sold out thanks to SF6 lol so when I should have purchased one months ago I didn’t. Looked at Mayflash, Mad Catz and Qanba and nothing. They don’t ship outside or certain countries or the United States. Closest I came was yesterday when I purchased the fighting stick alpha from Canada computers (which said on their site “available for online orders only, sold out in-stores” only to get an email a couple hours later saying the item is actually on back order (that’s a bit misleading and scummy). I do have the Victrix Pro BFG controller and tried it out but didn’t like it very much for fighting games. The Victrix fight sticks are available and can ship to Canada but it’s listed at $546cdn without duties/taxes included lol. Looks like my only option is to pick this controller up and wait for my fight stick from Canada computers to come back in stock and ship to me (if it ever does)
How do you turn off the assign mode?? I’ve mapped my buttons but it’s not turning off after holding it for 4 seconds???
What did you do exactly?
@@BimBurger finished mapping my buttons but the assign light that says “it will turn off after 4 seconds of not pressing a button” doesn’t turn off
@@BimBurger I’ve held the button for 3 seconds and the red light just won’t turn off
@@ShizuSan69 ok lemme try to replicate
@@BimBurger thank you any luck? I still can’t turn this red light off
I'm switching from a PS4 controller to a Hori Octa ps5 version . Its bugging me that the HORI comes up with the XBOX buttons in Steam and in my Games such as Multiversus . anyway around this
Usually, there should be mods. For Tekken, I use mods.
hi man, nice review. i now have both the xbox and ps5 versions of the hori octa and i immediately noticed some things: xbox octa does not allow you to remap the 4 main face action buttons, while ps5 octa DOES allow it, so this is a welcome change. however, ps5 octa does NOT have a PROFILE button anymore like on xbox octa. when i use xbox octa on pc i just first configure the 4 profiles in the app, and then i can close the app and just use the profile button to switch profiles on the fly on the xbox octa. how am i supposed to use the ps5 octa on my pc now ? since i no longer have a profile button, do i have to ALWAYS LEAVE the pc ps5 octa app OPEN running in the windows background? any ideas? sorry if it is a dumb question, i received the ps5 version just yesterday so i still have to familiarize with it. thanks, take care.
Hi there! You don't have to keep the app open. There's onboard memory, so you can set up the Octa to your liking and then close the app. Unfortunately, if you wanna switch to another profile, you'll have to open the app again.
I'm not sure if I was able to answer your question, sorry.
@@BimBurger thx for the very quick reply, man. So if i understand correctly both octa versions have pros and cons. I don t get why the xbox octa does STILL NOT allow you to remap A,B,X,Y buttons while ps5 one allows EVERY button. Thanks anyway, man, i like the octa in general , maybe some future updates from the hori octa app will change some of these things for the better. Oh , another thing: how do triggers work on the ps5 octa? Do they cancel each other while pressed both (z axis or something)? On pc i mean.
On my last question, i hope one of the three available settings , ps5, ps4 or pc can fix this, i don t want to use steam just for that .
@@CalcioRoma You mean like SOCD cleaning? when I tested it, I mapped left and right onto the bumpers, and when I held left and pressed right on the bumper, it gives me a right, not neutral. Down to up, you get a jump, not neutral.
@@BimBurger no i mean the triggers, like l2 and r2.
If you could get the Raion for 60$, would you take it over the Hori Octa ? Thank you for your answer.
In a heartbeat.
@@BimBurger Thank you for your answer, i guess i'll go for Raion then !
Dude, try remapping the shoulder buttons to direction for easy EWGFs.
Ah like what Nihonggo Gamer did, yeah? I might give that a shot but it feels cheap to me haha
I wonder if this would make for a good N64 controller for Emulation
Sorry, I don't think I can test that out any time soon :(
Is the dpad same as the sega saturn dpad?
I can't say sorry, I don't remember the saturn controller anymore :(
Dose the razon work on ps5? for Ps5 games?
Tested it with Guilty Gear -Strive- on the PS5 and it works perfectly!
You didn’t say how to get to the software
The razer raion has 4 switches in the dpad like any pad
Yeah I eventually figured that out :( I've been so wrong :(
How the hell do i reassign the buttons on my computer? They don't really give good instructions
It's a janky app for sure. So first pick a profile then pick edit and select. Then it should be intuitive after that.
Is this d pad better than the dualsense??
I'm not sure if this is a popular opinion but to me, it is not. I love the Dualshock and DualSense dpad more.
is it better than the old fighting commander ? that's all i need to know... i'm using the old one right now for like a year and it's still working fine
I would say it has more bells and whistles. Not 100% sure if I would say it's better overall.
@@BimBurger so i bought the Octa and not even 2 months in and the LT button popped off czcams.com/users/shorts3ue4iPz1ask
i've seen reviews of other people saying the same thing happened to them ....this controller is poorly made 👎👎..
A lot of bad reviews about the d-pad and L/R trigger quality on the XBox version of the Octa… I was waiting for this release but for $60, I might have to go with another brand. Supposedly they break after 3-6 months.
I use it pretty extensively - I'll let you know in 3 months how it's holding up.
Hows it holding up?
How did it hold up@@BimBurger
very nice review, i just ordered this because my last ps5 controller started giving me drift issues while playing guilty gear strive.
What would you say the durability is like on hori pads? I'm not rough with controllers, and honestly needed the ridges on the analog, I've been playing on analog for fighting games since 2018, and I cannot get used to dpad
Because of the comments on this video, I learned quite a few people, even some pros, use the analog stick. That blew my mind.
As for durability, I haven't really been failed by Hori peripherals so far, in terms of lifespan. They die after a few years, but so do all kinds of electronics.
@@BimBurger Thank you for your informative comment, I've been testing the controller and it feels good, but the placement messes with my muscle memory, I might try the pdp fight pad next, with the swappable buttons
is the Razor only for Playstation? I have an Xbox series X
The Razer Raion, as far as I know, there is a PS4 setting but not Xbox setting. However, would you know if PC peripherals work on the Xbox? If Xbox can accept pretty much all PC peripherals then the Raion could work.
I've gotten the Raion (as well as PS4/5 controllers, an 8bitdo arcade stick, and the octa too) to work on my Series S with a Brook Wingman XB. Should also work with Series X. Just plugging in the Raion won't work as Xbox doesn't accept PC peripherals.
Just wanted to share that I also have a Drivehub, a racing wheel converter. I use it to play Forza on Series S with a Logitech G29 (a PlayStation wheel). More importantly, it maps wheel inputs (just the face buttons and pedals though, not steering input) to controller inputs, and I've played Soul Calibur 2 and Strive with it. Fun times when I have friends over
Are any of those compatible with mac?
Not as far as I can tell, sorry :(
this is the only good english review of this pad thanks a lot
Wait what that can't be right - other Western Tubers are likely going to review this too since it comes out today in the West.
@@BimBurger as of right now it is the best to me. the other reviewers did not talk about the software or go in depth at all
@@Zeus32522 I appreciate that my man. 🙌
Hi guys, first of all nice video here, so this looks like an improved version from the xbox hori octa, i have it. So can you confirm you can remap to whatever you like all of the 4 primary face buttons like circle, square etc.? AND seems you can remap on the fly without the app now? Thanks man, take care.
@@CalcioRoma Can confirm, yes. You can remap every button but the home, create, and options buttons. And yes, using the function key, you can rebind on the fly, albeit clunkily.
the 3.5mm auido jack works on PC too.... my raion woked on PC fine.. and im willing to bet the hori will as well.. i just ordered one .. my raion was stolen... and you cant buy them anymore :(:(:(:(:(
Is it easier to do the one as well?
Sorry which one?
@@BimBurger Jack's one
@@wincho513 Ah, lemme try it out.
Ah okay, so as a non-Jack player, this is the first time ever I attempted the EMGF after the ff1, and TBH it's equally difficult on the Razer and the Octa. But if it's just the EMGF without the ff1, I would say it's just as easy on either controller.
@@BimBurger thx so much
Where can I use the app to remap my buttons?
Or where can I find the software for it
@@Cisco31091 There's a QR code on the inserted instructions. Scan that.
Yeah on the white instruction manual it’s not on there nor on the box
I was scared the dpad would be horrible but it turned out to be a great pad. I have no problem doing electrics with mishimas.
The dpad is pretty good, but I fear that the rubber membrane might wear out eventually, which I guess is a concern for most controllers, but with the Octa, I'm not sure how easy it will be to replace.
hello, for FPS mode is good controller ? can play good in MULTIPLAYER SHOOTERS, BATTLE ROYALE?
This one in particular? Oh absolutely not. It doesn't even have a right stick for aiming.
Is the durability good on these? I'm tired of paying $70 for duelsenses, and they start drifting and misinputting when i'm playing fighting games.
no, the durability is garbage, the shoulder buttons will pop off because they're held in place by a flimsy piece of plastic...same thing is happening to everyone, the shoulder buttons are extremely poorly designed
It hasn't broken for me, but then again I use the Raion more often.
@@Zenkai.boost.Kekkei.Genkai Not sure why you'd be using the shoulder buttons much on this, frankly... have a good quality normal XBOX/PS pad for most games, use this in Street Fighter (which, if you have the six face buttons, will only be using the shoulder buttons for UI stuff, not very often.) Treat your controllers with gentle care and stuff won't pop off.
@@mercster because in tekken the shoulder buttons are highly useful and good shoulder buttons are a must, and i need buttons not triggers.
@@Zenkai.boost.Kekkei.Genkai Ahh, gotcha... I only use 6-face-button-pads for SF.
hi. where can i get the software hori octa like u're using
Oh man I knew I should've left that in the video. Anyway, in the box, there was a piece of paper with two qr codes - one in English and one in Japanese. Scan the Japanese one.
@@BimBurger so it's available only scan by phone? But you using pc . Am i correct?
@@kaixasyifa2934 ah what I did was scan with my phone just to get the URL.
@@BimBurger done. thx bro
but unfortunately we can't change profile in game
Does it have a turbo feature?
It doesn't seem to, I don't think it does.
You're a hundred hands slap enjoyer, are you? :D
@@BimBurger lol nah. I like to have a turbo jab. I don't need it but it would be nice.
Me and all my friends are analog stick players. Me myself am not that good but a couple of my friends are so good with it they beat everyone else at locals who use sticks and boxes consistently.
That's crazy, yo. I'm not saying it's impossible to get good with the analog stick, I just know anyone personally who prefers it.
Then you’ll like this controller. I was shocked how responsive the analog was. I end mixing and using them both in matches in Guilty Gear Strive. The buttons are very fast like the Raion but I have issues with the dp. Hitting diagonals quickly and accurately is tough for me on this pad but I’m going to give it time and hopefully it’ll wear it’s self out and feel better in time
Does this controller work with ps5 games
Well I was able to test it on Guilty Gear -Strive- on the PS5. Worked perfectly!
I need turbo fuction just to get past parts of games as my reaction time is slow.
I was playing around with it yesterday and it didn't seem to have a turbo function unfortunately. I could be wrong and just be an idiot and didn't find it.
Is it good for mortal kombat
I would imagine so yeah.
Anybody know where I can pick this up?
I got mine at Arcade Shock
Amazon, they should have it.
@@BimBurger I meant in store
@@eazythegreat4333 ah sorry, in that case, I can't help.
@@BimBurger all good appreciate it anyway
Is the Razer Raion compatible with the Ps5?
It is. Played the SF6 beta with it
@@BimBurger awesome so I wouldn’t need to get another controller assuming that we will see a shift in PS5 as the primary console at tournaments
Razer Raion is PS5 compatible, just so I clarify
I loved the one I HAD but it wouldn't work correctly. The PS5 mode wouldn't work at all no matter what firmware updates I did and would disconnect all the time. That being said it's a fantastic fighting controller if it works😅
Oh man, that sucks. I wonder if the switch itself was broken.
So this controller is just for fighting games?
Typically yeah - it doesn't have a right stick. So modern games that use the right stick for camera controls or something like that won't be playable on this. However, classic arcade games work so well on the Octa. Even modern brawlers like Streets of Rage 4 and TMNT Shredder's Revenge work awesome on it.
Does the Razer work with PS5 GAMES?
Well it worked with Guilty Gear -Strive- which I think is native PS5 already
I had bought the refurbished razer fight pad, it worked on ps5 version of kofxv. The reason I returned it was bc it reset itself randomly, probablly bc it was refurbished. Waiting on the octa
@@Nu_Merick When you say reset, you mean your settings or did it just stop working altogether?
I used to play analog, still prefer it but it got stick drift when I played guile,I wonder how long the hori analog lasts with Guile
If you play analog, you're going to LOVE the Raion's octa-gated analog stick.
@@BimBurger the Hori's you mean 😅, can we have an update on whether it gets stuck drift please?
I don't understand the complaint about the handles. Surely the point of getting a fight pad is to be able to play with your thumbs. For me, at least, using my fingers on the buttons is much more of a barrier to using arcade sticks than the joystick itself (and if you want to do that, why not get a stick or a hitbox?).
Valid points, of course. My complaints are very personal and are very specific to me, I guess. I have an easier time with movement with a dpad and an easier time when I use three fingers for the buttons. Being a King player, when I do land those chain grabs, I need to press three or four buttons simultaneously so a "claw" grip is better.
Just hoping for the best of both worlds.
@@BimBurger That's fair enough. I guess the only way to split the difference would be with something modular, which would probably come at the cost of build quality. I think having my hands asymmetrical would throw me off enough to counterbalance the familiarity of the d-pad. I'm also one of those mythical analogue-stick players so I've been waiting for a controller with this exact layout since SFIV.
@@MechaCatFish No way. You use the analog stick?! Man you're gonna love the octagonal gate on this thing.
@@BimBurger Oh I'm very much aware.
@@BimBurger You tried the madcatz controller? sorry im new
I prefer analog but only if it’s offset. I was at my very best when using an old Xbox 360 controller. Just ordered the OCTA and gonna try the analog because of the gate.
I miss the eight-way directional buttons that were on the Sega Genesis and Sega Saturn controllers back in the Sega Genesis and Sega Saturn days. Four-way directional buttons are not all that great for fighting games.
Try the 8bitdo m30.
It’s basically the Saturn controller.
@@TypicallyUniqueOfficialit’s great but sadly only works for switch and PC. There’s no equivalent of it for ps5
Just got mine from amazon and within 30 secondes of gameplay I can tell the Dpad is not for me. Gonna end up returning it. At this point i'm just going to stick to official saturn controllers and use adapters.
Have you tried messing around with the software to see if changing the sensitivity settings helps at all?
@@BimBurger nope, have zero time for garbage like that. A Saturn controller doesn't have a app to mess around with settings and its perfect
@@Fahrenheit38 I’ve used them on ps3 …where do u get them from at this point ?
30 seconds ? lol you gave up way too soon... that's exactly what i said about the old figting commander the first time i got my hands on it and after i got used to it now it's the best fighting controller i ever used
@@Fahrenheit38 You waste time in video games, yet also consider your time so valuable that you would not spend 5 minutes using some software to tweak a setting? Packaging the controller up and sending it back to Amazon will take more time than that. Is it that you just don't have the IQ to use computer software?
where is the hell secend gear stick?
It doesn't have one - it's a fightpad.
I have the older Hori fight commander and its great, I've returned 2 OCTAs because the dpad, although it feels good it is very inaccurate, and my 3rd on is the worst of them. The analog stick feels great however. I won't ever buy another one until perhaps the next iteration.
That sucks to hear, man. Mine's still doing well, but then again, I do admittedly use the Razer Raion a bit more.
@@BimBurger I bought a Raion 2nd hand it was bad, i think it was overused.
To get a good d pad even to play zangief is a nightmare many times my do doesn't comes out 🙄
It's pretty doable on the Octa, but probably far easier to do it on a hitbox or something like that.
can no one just make their own version of the razer raion that is normal? I haven't used that controller in 2 years I think but the ergonomics were lacking, felt horrible to do qcb/f motions and whatever else. why all these "fightpad" controllers still use rubber membrane material is beyond me.
I'm guessing it's because of cost. The Raion, at least when it first came out, was almost twice the price of the Octa.
Its a good thing I use analog stick when playing fighting games. It's the most comfortable to me.
Ah then you're gonna love the Octa :)
@@BimBurger oh I have the Xbox version. :) so thebPS version is next.
Watching this vid was just for the algorithm. 💛
I do wish there was one for Nintendo 😪