Tbh everyone crashes with too much power Hamilton too crashed in his Zonda and dude is a 7 time world champion.... physics don't give a shit how good you are.
@@Davidoslikesbeans when did I laugh? the only time I laugh is your reply, plus if it’s “not funny” people still have different taste in the word “funny”
@@MarvinTheMartianQ38 Ah, upon further reflection I suppose power steering and power brakes could be what the poster meant. I was thinking of it from today's world of traction control and stability control etc etc.
Do you remember when they raced Porsche 911 Carreras in the inaugural IROC (international race of champions) ABC Television race series of the 1970s? I remember several drivers at the Riverside Raceway, CA event (now closed) lost their rears and spun-out at turn 9 throughout that race.
A person who really likes to drive fast cars is more likely to buy an old Porsche. A person who is looking for a status symbol is more likely to buy a Ferrari
@@chriswheeler6092Nonsense, Porsche is more stable in value than Ferrari nowadays. Porsche offers everything, whether for the collector or the fast driver.
Yeah anyone who actually believes an old porsche drives really well is in for a big surprise a 986 boxster drives 100x better than any old 911 it's just finance guys and car collectors that say the driving feel is why these cars costs that much but 130 hp can only be so fun
@@mexicaninjafredfred driven both. Had a 1979 911 SC (gold..admittedly not a great color)…my neighbor bought a 1998 Boxter…and I’m sorry but my 911 was still a much better car. With that said..once Porsche came out with the Boxter “S”..that was a different gig. I think most people can argue quite handily, that the 911 and the Boxter S are effectively the same car. Very little difference if any…except the Boxter doesn’t try to kill you going into corners with some speed at your back.
I can’t state with 100% accuracy…but I would be absolutely stunned if I saw a 70’s or 80’s 930 automatic. I would actually say the same for 911’s now that we’re at it. It feels like it wasn’t until the 90’s that someone stuck a tiptromatic in one. (That’s not to say that 928’’s and perhaps even 944’s..968’s didn’t have tiptromatics as some surely did)..but I cant see any of the air cooled models had them and almost certainly not the 930’s…
It's not that simple. "The" 911 was the original model and after that every descending model has a different (usually bigger) type number but they were all marketed under the name 911 for recognition. That's why there is a lot of 9xx which all 911s from different years with or without a turbo. Another interesting fact that the 911 were originally intended to be 901 but they had to rename it because Peugeot already has trademarked all 3 digit numbers with 0 in the middle. Fun fact that later they trademarked all 4 digit numbers with 00 in the middle. :D
I drove one to work often from Elmhurst Illinois to Evanston for my blue-collar job with AT&T. I had a euro-spec version, which I gutted (only one seat, etc) It was rock solid, never behaved poorly. Always creeped up to 90 mph, pretty much on it’s own, and that’s where it wanted to cruise. Needed correct tires for the air temp and wet / dry. Needed a 5-speed. Needed better fuel injection. Only lost it once, summer tires on a very dry, dark and cold, 12°F morning on Illionis tollway 294 at maybe 80 mph through a toll booth. I thought the gate was up, it wasn’t, hit the brakes really hard, skidded, shot out of the toll plaza sideways, super easy recovery. But I did learn to drive in aircooled rear engine VW’s and a dune buggy, so…
Nowhere near as bad as the original factory 917 race car. Contracted Porsche race drivers avoided testing it as far as possible. Privateer owners were still able to buy the death trap. One died on the first lap of the Le Mans 24 Hours. Eventually Porsche aerodynaminists introduced the short tailed K version. It was a legendary positive change.
It’s not the horse power or turbo lag that makes them straight up killers, it’s the rpm range of when those 2 finally come together and make peak hp and torque simultaneously… kiss of death if you are not ready for it.
@@nygelmiller5293 well, i owned a Ruf ctr for a few years and survived. For those, who didnt drive an old 911turbo yet....first comes torque(3500-4500), later the power (5000+..)
*Peter Brock was a very skilled Australian Racecar driver who had all the skills and was racing in the Targa Tasmania race in a Giacolotta with a converted rear mounted LS1 V8 engine. He lost control and he wasn't even going that fast on a slippery ,mossy, wet road,but his driver's door slammed straight into a huge Gum Tree which Bananared the car around it, and sending Peter Brock to heaven.😢 He had more brains and driving skills than Money, but sometimes shit happens and even Peter "Perfect" as they called him lost control and still went to heaven. When it happened,he was alot older, so I think his reflexes weren't as sharp as they used to be,which I think was the cause for his death. He either didn't catch the oversteer, or he oversteered to much himself. His co driver was sitting next to him on his left and only suffered minor injuries. The car had a full race roll cage and 6 point harness racing seat, but hard impact on your drivers door, you don't stand much of a chance. Its just too much trauma for the human body to handle. RIP Peter Brock.*
I had one of these in 1978, it was a 1976 and it almost killed me several times. The car was uncontrollable before you even had a clue. As a kid growing up I drove midgets, flat track, desert and raced at Lion's Drag strip so I had some experience.
930 series is a bunch of updates which came in at the time of the Turbo so you'll also find "930.26" is the 3.2 naturally aspirated engine of the time. The term G series just conveniently blurs the terms 915 into 930...
@@robertcorbishley1712 I have no idea why you are talking about the 915. But the name of the engine doesn't have anything to do with the name of the car, technically only 1974 cars are called G-Modell. The 930 is the special designation reserved for the Turbo. The other models were just called 911 Carrera/SC ( G,J,K,A,B... as internal references like the G-Modell.)
While I fully understand that folks call the car a 930 Turbo, you can also buy a car with a 930 3.2. The 1984 Porsche 911 parts catalogue lists the car as 911 Turbo coupe, with the 930.66 ( or 68) engine... ( the car is never named 930 Turbo) but right next to it in the table you can see Carerra models also have 930 engines ( .21 or .26). Any other updates made for the Turbo cars in 1984 have 930 part numbers so G series cars whether Turbo or Carrera are filled with a mix of 911, 915, 930 prefix parts. I'm not making this up. 10 years ago I bought a 3.2 engine (marked 930.26) and it came with its 915 gearbox. I do design engines for a living and I do retro 911 upgrades so I'm literally surrounded by books and junk.
@@robertcorbishley1712 Perhaps you misunderstood, I am not talking about the engine name. I am talking about the car. I know the 930.** Engines exist. The car is still not called a 930.
I started loving Porsche because of the 930 Turbo, especially after that awesome chase scene from the movie "No Man's Land" 1987, i was a teenager when i saw it and it stuck with me!
I had a 1988 930 cabriolet from 1995 through 2021. A good friend and I did ‘intelligent’ mods to it increasing the stock 288 hp to just over 400… At over 5000’ above sea level it was still a sub 4 sec 0-100km/hr automobile. It was bulletproof. I drove it hard on mountain roads.., never ‘lost it’ on a curve, and never went off the road. I was a little bit smart, and super lucky, as I’ve had no formal training in high performance driving. Anyway, I’ve had quite a few friends with mid 80’s 911’s, and some with 930’s and 964 turbos. None wrecked, and none died, and all drove the shit (as one should..!) out of their cars…
I had a ‘72 911 T and a ‘82 SC, it doesn’t matter if you lift off the throttle, once the tires lose traction, you’re coming around. Now my Tesla M3 that’s a whole different story, amazing what all that low placed weight can do for turn-in and tossability at high speed.
Shorts & TikTok ruined Crystal Castles for me. Can't share the music with anyone without them saying its that edgy track from TikTok. It's not even played right, they keep slowing it down like it wasn't a good track to begin with...
I bought a 77 911 in 1978. First car I had to learn to drive; adding over a 100#'s to the extreme nose, inside the front boot helped. About 6 yrs later, an old friend of mine came by my shop for a visit. During conversation, it came up his sister was buying a 911 Turbo. Not knowing his sis, I asked her driving back; nothing to speak of. I implored him to convince his sister to let me come up to her place, (200+ miles away), & teach her how to drive her new toy. No cost to her, I was doing out of an instant fear I had for my friend losing his only sibling & relative. The date was set, just under 3 wks away. Her car was still 2 wks away; I thought she could be cautious for a week. Three days after taking possession of the car, she swapped ends in it & was killed at the scene. Took a long time to get over that one. Broke my good friend's heart.
Dennis, Wasn't ur fault ,I'm a retired Substance Abuse Counselor. A man can Give advise but once someone doesn't understand & ego takes over Sometimes it's Fatal unfortunately. In powerful cars & with drugs ,folks will rationalize. They wouldn't sell them if they were were dangerous,I can't wait,it's my car I'm just going around the block,I'm a great driver ect. adnauseum
@@RobertErcolani-mg7cl Fortunately, I never blamed myself. If I hadn't spoke up, offered my help, I would likely have felt some guilt. In spite of me not feeling blame, it still was painful; to know you may well have prevented someone's death, especially someone important to a good friend, leaves a person feeling hollow for what might have been, frustrated by someone not taking a warning seriously & anguish at seeing a friend suffer a devastating loss. Thanks for your words of encouragement. GeoD
AFAIK it's true. 930, then 934, then 935. Yes there were 935 homologation specials, and those were equally deadly. But the 930 is distinct and earlier than 935
@@B0BHD I don't care where you live. The information is incorrect. Why? I think I would know, I've been working for Porsche for 6 years in Weissach and worked at Zuffenhausen for 2 years before that. My father was also and avid collector and had both these cars. I could tell you that information is incorrect when I was 10 years old. Brush up on your history kid.
Get your Porsches strait. You showed the WRONG Porsche at the beginning. The black car is the Porsche Carrera GT. It is a bit wild but not the same as the car shown later. The air cooled 911's really need to be driven like a front wheel drive car. You always Brake before the corner in a straight line, and then gas it through the corner.
He also says "then they turbo'd the 930" as if there was ever a non turbo 930. He should have said turbo'd the 911. Lots of incorrect clips in the video as well.
Correction: Porsche did not turbocharge their “regular 930 model”. They turbocharged their 911 model, and the turbocharged version is the 930 model (marketed as “911 Turbo”). There is no such thing as a non-turbo 930.
I drove one for almost a month in 1978. The reason it has a rep is the same reason the Beechcraft Bonanza was called the doctor killer. It got that name because most of the owners were charter members of "The More Money than Brains Club". As long as you understood basic rear engine versus mid engine and turbo lag, you were fine. As people much smarter than I have said, "Idiots will always find a way to get hurt."
@@kkapalleSpeed limit is 75 / 85 (state-dependent) just as it is on most of the Autobahn, d u m b a s s. You couldn't even spell "American" correctly. Flunked Gymnasium, did you?
Hey man i like them. Im half deaf and either always in loud places where i wont hear the video regardless or in a place where its inappropriate to blast random videos.
The 930 turbo and first gen viper were literal coffins on wheels, and depending on where you get hit or what you hit, it can also be a crematorium on wheels.
The best handling cars money can buy. I've had 6 911 Porsches and it takes a real dumbass to crash one. The 930 was infact called the "widowmaker" in the 80's and early 90's because it was very fast for its time and some were crashed. I think Mustangs/Camaros and Challengers have long since taken that title away from Porsches for both deaths and crashes.
Although, Mustangs, Camaros, and Challenger/Chargers are actually affordable. That's why they are so noticeable. I can drive more than a week and not see an exotic car. However, I can't breathe without seeing a "pony car".
My friends dad had an 86’ 930 turbo years ago he inherited from his dad after he had passed suddenly. It was tracked and suffered a small front end collision which resulted in them slant nose swapping it. That was the first Porsche i ever rode in not to mention one of the most special in my eyes. He had it for sale for like 30k years ago which was sooo sad.
I had the 911 with the whale tail and ground effects. No turbo. Bought it in '87. Some Captain brought it back from Germany. I was stationed at Polk. Bought it from one of the dealers on Entrance Road. I think it was $27,000. Didnt keep it very long. Sold it back to the dealer I bought it from. Unbelievably fast even without the turbo. I drove them in Germany, saw one and wanted it. Owning it and daily driver, different story. When I was stationed in Germany a lot of officers bought the 924 or 944's. Even for its parts bin build I still like the 924.
I remember how cool it was when I was younger when my dad used to drive his porsche full throttle in corners. I would sit in the back of the car (small triangle seats) and feel like I was literally glued to the asphalt, because the whole car was so back heavy+ the grip. I couldnt hear anything except engine because it was so loud. it was awesome. Though I think it was more noisy than it should since he had built it.
The challenge of driving makes this car so entertaining for years upon years. Nowadays you can move a sports car safely at the limit after a single track day unless its maybe something extreme like the GT3 RS
In 1978 my father bought a new Porsche 930 turbo and immediately knew it was a “handful”. On the day he went to pick up the car from the dealer it rained hard all day, and coming back home he took the same corner he always near our house, was going about 15 mph, and the car immediately spun in circles before he had a chance to correct it. After that day he only drove the car on dry days, and even then he didn’t speed. He kept the car for 6 months and it really annoyed him that he couldn’t drive the car fast, which was the main reason he bought it. He bought a new Porsche 928 afterwards, a car with excellent and easily controlled handling, it was also made really well and lasted 327,000 miles. Porsche has gotten rid of the handling problems of its rear engined car years ago.
The key, is in the braking, before the turn. Porsche 911, grabs on the front, outer tire or wheel. This can cause them to flip when hitting a turn without breaking first.
You've got the Turbos out of order: The 935 was created in 1976 AFTER the Porsche 930 was created. The 930 Turbo came first, then the 934 Group 4 and subsequently the 935 Group 5 that was also based on the 930.
Had more money than driving skills had me😂😅
Lolololol right
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Lol I'm famous 108 likes
Seems to be a common combination.
Tbh everyone crashes with too much power Hamilton too crashed in his Zonda and dude is a 7 time world champion.... physics don't give a shit how good you are.
Too much money not enough brain💀
people actually called them that why you laughing
@@Davidoslikesbeans what? Read the comment carefully I only said that it’s wild💀💀💀
@@Heartfromsomewhere yeah but you are laughing while it aint funny?
@@Davidoslikesbeans when did I laugh? the only time I laugh is your reply, plus if it’s “not funny” people still have different taste in the word “funny”
@@Heartfromsomewhere dude 💀😭 is literally laughing
You know what other cars back then had a "lack of driver assist"? All of them.
You don't have any idea what you're talking about.
@@MarvinTheMartianQ38 Ah, upon further reflection I suppose power steering and power brakes could be what the poster meant. I was thinking of it from today's world of traction control and stability control etc etc.
@@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261no thats still not what the video is mainly talking about
The narrator meant "assistance", I assume. ....
@@couttsy222 no shit.
Lift off overstear is a common thing based on physics of the engine in the back. If you know how to use it in your favor, its class!
If you don’t; it’s your ass.
Do you remember when they raced Porsche 911 Carreras in the inaugural IROC (international race of champions) ABC Television race series of the 1970s? I remember several drivers at the Riverside Raceway, CA event (now closed) lost their rears and spun-out at turn 9 throughout that race.
Old 911 turbos with manual are gold
A person who really likes to drive fast cars is more likely to buy an old Porsche. A person who is looking for a status symbol is more likely to buy a Ferrari
@@chriswheeler6092Nonsense, Porsche is more stable in value than Ferrari nowadays. Porsche offers everything, whether for the collector or the fast driver.
Yeah anyone who actually believes an old porsche drives really well is in for a big surprise a 986 boxster drives 100x better than any old 911 it's just finance guys and car collectors that say the driving feel is why these cars costs that much but 130 hp can only be so fun
@@mexicaninjafredfred driven both. Had a 1979 911 SC (gold..admittedly not a great color)…my neighbor bought a 1998 Boxter…and I’m sorry but my 911 was still a much better car. With that said..once Porsche came out with the Boxter “S”..that was a different gig. I think most people can argue quite handily, that the 911 and the Boxter S are effectively the same car. Very little difference if any…except the Boxter doesn’t try to kill you going into corners with some speed at your back.
I can’t state with 100% accuracy…but I would be absolutely stunned if I saw a 70’s or 80’s 930 automatic. I would actually say the same for 911’s now that we’re at it. It feels like it wasn’t until the 90’s that someone stuck a tiptromatic in one. (That’s not to say that 928’’s and perhaps even 944’s..968’s didn’t have tiptromatics as some surely did)..but I cant see any of the air cooled models had them and almost certainly not the 930’s…
Then RUF made the CTR Yellowbird and made it even deadlier 💀
Saw that of Cars of Northern Virginia
Ikr😂❤
This
The CTR was built on a carrera due to it being lighter, it was also twin turboed instead of a single turbine in the 930
@@mastermango1792cool story nobody was building anything on the 930 in the 90s LOL
930 automatically means it is a 911 with a turbo.
today it’s called the GT2 RS
It's not that simple. "The" 911 was the original model and after that every descending model has a different (usually bigger) type number but they were all marketed under the name 911 for recognition. That's why there is a lot of 9xx which all 911s from different years with or without a turbo.
Another interesting fact that the 911 were originally intended to be 901 but they had to rename it because Peugeot already has trademarked all 3 digit numbers with 0 in the middle. Fun fact that later they trademarked all 4 digit numbers with 00 in the middle. :D
The non turbo was the 915.
@@nrw34260no it is not. 915 is the factory designation of the Porsche transmission unit which 911s up to the late 80s 911 Carreras were equipped with.
Added the turbo to the regular 930- that’s tells us all we need to know about the Porsche ‘expert’ that wrote this garbage.
I drove one to work often from Elmhurst Illinois to Evanston for my blue-collar job with AT&T. I had a euro-spec version, which I gutted (only one seat, etc) It was rock solid, never behaved poorly. Always creeped up to 90 mph, pretty much on it’s own, and that’s where it wanted to cruise. Needed correct tires for the air temp and wet / dry. Needed a 5-speed. Needed better fuel injection. Only lost it once, summer tires on a very dry, dark and cold, 12°F morning on Illionis tollway 294 at maybe 80 mph through a toll booth. I thought the gate was up, it wasn’t, hit the brakes really hard, skidded, shot out of the toll plaza sideways, super easy recovery. But I did learn to drive in aircooled rear engine VW’s and a dune buggy, so…
Nowhere near as bad as the original factory 917 race car. Contracted Porsche race drivers avoided testing it as far as possible. Privateer owners were still able to buy the death trap. One died on the first lap of the Le Mans 24 Hours. Eventually Porsche aerodynaminists introduced the short tailed K version. It was a legendary positive change.
Yes, beetle had the same oversteer type...harder to catch with less power!
Wow, you must be only one of three people that has ever mastered the skills required to drive a rear engine car!
Wassup neighbor I from.evanston Illinois I always did like those Porsche from when I was a small kid in the 90s at least it was a good recovery
Fritz don't be a sourkraut life is not worth living without a little oversteer ya!
"Sent many unexperienced drivers to heaven"😂😂😂
he cant run out of words i guess💀
some may have went in the other direction 💀😈🔥
It's a German car, made for German drivers who can drive
Why are you laughing at people's deaths😢
@@jodiebarker4077 what? theres no way people will stop doing this. you cant easily stop someone from doing things in the internet.
It’s not the horse power or turbo lag that makes them straight up killers, it’s the rpm range of when those 2 finally come together and make peak hp and torque simultaneously… kiss of death if you are not ready for it.
dont worry, it starts whistling first before the punch. just keep ur radio off.
For the most part, engines don’t make peak horsepower and torque at the same time…
@@jamesw1659the do…. Briefly. 😂 then physics decides the winner.
@@pauliks5218I can see YOU know how to drive rear engined cars. Not like idiots.
@@nygelmiller5293 well, i owned a Ruf ctr for a few years and survived. For those, who didnt drive an old 911turbo yet....first comes torque(3500-4500), later the power (5000+..)
*Peter Brock was a very skilled Australian Racecar driver who had all the skills and was racing in the Targa Tasmania race in a Giacolotta with a converted rear mounted LS1 V8 engine. He lost control and he wasn't even going that fast on a slippery ,mossy, wet road,but his driver's door slammed straight into a huge Gum Tree which Bananared the car around it, and sending Peter Brock to heaven.😢 He had more brains and driving skills than Money, but sometimes shit happens and even Peter "Perfect" as they called him lost control and still went to heaven. When it happened,he was alot older, so I think his reflexes weren't as sharp as they used to be,which I think was the cause for his death. He either didn't catch the oversteer, or he oversteered to much himself. His co driver was sitting next to him on his left and only suffered minor injuries. The car had a full race roll cage and 6 point harness racing seat, but hard impact on your drivers door, you don't stand much of a chance. Its just too much trauma for the human body to handle. RIP Peter Brock.*
I had one of these in 1978, it was a 1976 and it almost killed me several times. The car was uncontrollable before you even had a clue.
As a kid growing up I drove midgets, flat track, desert and raced at Lion's Drag strip so I had some experience.
You know that the 930 is the specific model designation for the Turbo right? So the non turbo 911s from that era are not 930s but called G Model
930 series is a bunch of updates which came in at the time of the Turbo so you'll also find "930.26" is the 3.2 naturally aspirated engine of the time. The term G series just conveniently blurs the terms 915 into 930...
@@robertcorbishley1712 I have no idea why you are talking about the 915. But the name of the engine doesn't have anything to do with the name of the car, technically only 1974 cars are called G-Modell. The 930 is the special designation reserved for the Turbo. The other models were just called 911 Carrera/SC ( G,J,K,A,B... as internal references like the G-Modell.)
While I fully understand that folks call the car a 930 Turbo, you can also buy a car with a 930 3.2. The 1984 Porsche 911 parts catalogue lists the car as 911 Turbo coupe, with the 930.66 ( or 68) engine... ( the car is never named 930 Turbo) but right next to it in the table you can see Carerra models also have 930 engines ( .21 or .26). Any other updates made for the Turbo cars in 1984 have 930 part numbers so G series cars whether Turbo or Carrera are filled with a mix of 911, 915, 930 prefix parts. I'm not making this up. 10 years ago I bought a 3.2 engine (marked 930.26) and it came with its 915 gearbox. I do design engines for a living and I do retro 911 upgrades so I'm literally surrounded by books and junk.
@@robertcorbishley1712 Perhaps you misunderstood, I am not talking about the engine name. I am talking about the car. I know the 930.** Engines exist. The car is still not called a 930.
@@ImNotHere4750 sorry! Fully agree there!!
I started loving Porsche because of the 930 Turbo, especially after that awesome chase scene from the movie "No Man's Land" 1987, i was a teenager when i saw it and it stuck with me!
Same hahah
Hell yeah, ditto man. That movie still gives me goosebumps.
Seafoam green in the parking garage. I know.
The 930 turbo was God when we were young and impressionable. And even today, with right driver. It'd still kick a whole Lotta ass.
@@me2d2 Congrats buddy, hold on to it and never let go!
Car issue ❌
Skill issue ✅
These cars are INSANE to drive...
I had a 1988 930 cabriolet from 1995 through 2021. A good friend and I did ‘intelligent’ mods to it increasing the stock 288 hp to just over 400…
At over 5000’ above sea level it was still a sub 4 sec 0-100km/hr automobile.
It was bulletproof.
I drove it hard on mountain roads.., never ‘lost it’ on a curve, and never went off the road.
I was a little bit smart, and super lucky, as I’ve had no formal training in high performance driving.
Anyway, I’ve had quite a few friends with mid 80’s 911’s, and some with 930’s and 964 turbos.
None wrecked, and none died, and all drove the shit (as one should..!) out of their cars…
Back in 87 I drove a 78 turbo at Road Atlanta on track day,my uncle warned me and it was a handful 😊
What a lovely combo!
"Unexpected lift-off oversteer"? What else could you expect from any rear engined car?
Yep! People were crashing in turns where they didn't accelerate out of them.
I have a normal 1973 911 s without turbo.. a mean machine too😂😂
I had a ‘72 911 T and a ‘82 SC, it doesn’t matter if you lift off the throttle, once the tires lose traction, you’re coming around.
Now my Tesla M3 that’s a whole different story, amazing what all that low placed weight can do for turn-in and tossability at high speed.
"lack of driver assists" fuck sake.
Right?
So, what, they needed that "transmission-assist" (AKA automatic)?
It was the '70s...
Money can buy you anything but driving skills.
We see this even today.
it's a shame modern cars have such strong safety cells. too many of these rich idiots live to drive like a tool again.
The money can pay for driving lessons.
@@asquare9316 the assholes at youtube brought me back to this comment, i have obviously commented on it before. can anyone see that comment?
@@asquare9316 you can't teach a narcissist anything.
@@JTV84 yes
And Porsche 930 tuned by RUF was called "Doctor Killer"
Call it whatever it's just a VW with running shoes
Thought that was the Beach Bonanza.
The 935 looks Futuristic
bros playing kerosene
Shorts & TikTok ruined Crystal Castles for me. Can't share the music with anyone without them saying its that edgy track from TikTok. It's not even played right, they keep slowing it down like it wasn't a good track to begin with...
You gonna ruin the moment? Nvm this song got ruined anyways
@@tanzanite6695true.
Idc love the artist, his music just brings a vibe. I've heard it millions of times and it don't change. Same with stressed out.
Guess cause it was also used on that vid of the mangled audi on the autobahn
The Dodge viper is also called a widow maker cause the same exact reason 😂
You have to drive one to really know just how easy it is to spin in a corner.
I bought a 77 911 in 1978. First car I had to learn to drive; adding over a 100#'s to the extreme nose, inside the front boot helped.
About 6 yrs later, an old friend of mine came by my shop for a visit. During conversation, it came up his sister was buying a 911 Turbo.
Not knowing his sis, I asked her driving back; nothing to speak of. I implored him to convince his sister to let me come up to her place, (200+ miles away), & teach her how to drive her new toy.
No cost to her, I was doing out of an instant fear I had for my friend losing his only sibling & relative.
The date was set, just under 3 wks away. Her car was still 2 wks away; I thought she could be cautious for a week.
Three days after taking possession of the car, she swapped ends in it & was killed at the scene.
Took a long time to get over that one.
Broke my good friend's heart.
Why you did tell her not to buy 911 turbo???? Girls have no imagination!!!!!!
Dennis, Wasn't ur fault ,I'm a retired Substance Abuse Counselor. A man can Give advise but once someone doesn't understand & ego takes over Sometimes it's Fatal unfortunately. In powerful cars & with drugs ,folks will rationalize. They wouldn't sell them if they were were dangerous,I can't wait,it's my car I'm just going around the block,I'm a great driver ect. adnauseum
@@RobertErcolani-mg7cl Fortunately, I never blamed myself. If I hadn't spoke up, offered my help, I would likely have felt some guilt.
In spite of me not feeling blame, it still was painful; to know you may well have prevented someone's death, especially someone important to a good friend, leaves a person feeling hollow for what might have been, frustrated by someone not taking a warning seriously & anguish at seeing a friend suffer a devastating loss.
Thanks for your words of encouragement.
GeoD
Sent many drivers to heaven ☝️
😂😂😂
Cars period have sent many of people to heaven tho just think about it.
@@motogeee510 true... This one just sent a little more... Thats all...
Only the turbo Model was called 930- so the regular car was not called 930
Turing that Porsche 930 Turbo into a RWD.
Sent inexperienced drivers to heaven😂
Carrera GT is also the widowmaker. Looks sick ngl
Nah the 930 is the true widowmaker
The carerra gt is like the widow maker v2@@robmobracing9731
nah, Carrera GT is the family maker 😂, Only after Paul Walker died the Fast & Furious became more about family 😂
The carrera gt is like the widow maker v2 kinda
Just a small mistake: the 930 was built to homologate the 911 Carrera RSR Turbo 2.1... The 935 came a few years later as a successor to that car.
Not true
AFAIK it's true. 930, then 934, then 935. Yes there were 935 homologation specials, and those were equally deadly. But the 930 is distinct and earlier than 935
@@AnonymousGameWardenit is true dont day something if you dont know shlt i live in stuttgart and @Salo is right
@@B0BHD I don't care where you live. The information is incorrect. Why? I think I would know, I've been working for Porsche for 6 years in Weissach and worked at Zuffenhausen for 2 years before that. My father was also and avid collector and had both these cars. I could tell you that information is incorrect when I was 10 years old. Brush up on your history kid.
@@AnonymousGameWarden guy working for porsche fighting on the internet over some ai generated script video
The 914 was far more dangerous in a crash than the 930. ☠️
Turbo lag
80's boys: hope the turbo dont walk away höhöhöhö
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Suomi mainitty höhöhöö
Fun fact: The 930 Turbo was built by Porsche's Department of Redundancies Department.
Driver mod is still the most important option
My uncle owns one in black on black and it's just the wildest car I've ever been sitting in. Just totally crazy! You can feel the danger.
Get your Porsches strait. You showed the WRONG Porsche at the beginning. The black car is the Porsche Carrera GT. It is a bit wild but not the same as the car shown later.
The air cooled 911's really need to be driven like a front wheel drive car. You always Brake before the corner in a straight line, and then gas it through the corner.
He also says "then they turbo'd the 930" as if there was ever a non turbo 930. He should have said turbo'd the 911. Lots of incorrect clips in the video as well.
bro most of these videos are made entirely by AI they dont care
Straight*
It's the car that killed Paul Walker...
@@anthonytuccillo6274it is not. That was a carrera gt he was killed in, completely different car.
More money than driving skills 💀
People hated these Porsches when they came out. They were considered “ugly” but… it aged like fine wine
I had a couple of 930 models as a kid and loved the shape! Still do.
Wrong!
@@racingjimmer you sure?
My favorite car of all time, that wide butt and the extended wheel well, love it!
That Carrera GT at the beginning was fine though. 👌🔥
The Carrera GT is what I think of as Porsche’s widow maker. It too took many lives as well as Paul Walkers. RIP
@@mikes978 The Carrera GT is way more dangerous than the 930, and also nicknamed the "Widow Maker".
"when the pocket rocket was released"😂😅😂😅
@ itsenergyzzz789....Don't understand what's funny friends...it's fun & games until it's NOT 😢 People getting killed just isn't funny period
They made a non turbo ‘turbo’ look option when speccing the cars which was a £10k extra option. So the ones with that option are super rare nowadays
I love the 930 it’s has more character than most super cars today
You also cannot forget porcshe carrera gt
porcshe? Never heard of that car brand.
Everyones heard of the GT, it's boring to talk about.
that's not the point of this video
The same thing happened to the V Tail Bonanza. Doctors and lawyers wrote checks that their pilot skills couldn't cash!
Forked tail Doctor killer. More dangerous than a flight attendant with a chipped tooth.
Correction: Porsche did not turbocharge their “regular 930 model”. They turbocharged their 911 model, and the turbocharged version is the 930 model (marketed as “911 Turbo”). There is no such thing as a non-turbo 930.
I drove one for almost a month in 1978. The reason it has a rep is the same reason the Beechcraft Bonanza was called the doctor killer. It got that name because most of the owners were charter members of "The More Money than Brains Club". As long as you understood basic rear engine versus mid engine and turbo lag, you were fine. As people much smarter than I have said, "Idiots will always find a way to get hurt."
What a beautiful beast. 😍💯
Back in the days, my dad was a racer and he had a 930 ngl, then he sold it for like 10 mil in 2014 to an American
“Sent many of them to heaven”😂😂😂😂😂😂 that guy is a beast
I owned a 1985 Turbo Targa.Never had a problem in 5 years of ownership.There is a knack to driving them.
Carrera GT: Hold my oil
Carrera GT is the car that took Paul Walker’s life 🪦 😢
Normalise not blaming car companies for customer skill issue
It's not a skill Issue, it's common sense that people should be driven race spec cars on the street.
Aggressive turbo lag sent them to heaven lol
When the turbo spooled up she went a little crazy!
After driving many laps of the Nurburgring in BeamNG using the 930 Turbo, I can confirm it's very difficult to drive.
Only for inexperienced amarican drivers which only get used to 60 Mille per hour
@@kkapalleSpeed limit is 75 / 85 (state-dependent) just as it is on most of the Autobahn, d u m b a s s.
You couldn't even spell "American" correctly. Flunked Gymnasium, did you?
Imagine being able to watch the video without all those garbage captions in the middle of the screen
Hey man i like them. Im half deaf and either always in loud places where i wont hear the video regardless or in a place where its inappropriate to blast random videos.
The 930 turbo and first gen viper were literal coffins on wheels, and depending on where you get hit or what you hit, it can also be a crematorium on wheels.
That's a great phrase : "The people with the money to buy those cars, usually don't have the skills to drive it"
The best handling cars money can buy. I've had 6 911 Porsches and it takes a real dumbass to crash one. The 930 was infact called the "widowmaker" in the 80's and early 90's because it was very fast for its time and some were crashed. I think Mustangs/Camaros and Challengers have long since taken that title away from Porsches for both deaths and crashes.
This made me laugh. Damn mustang drivers!
Although, Mustangs, Camaros, and Challenger/Chargers are actually affordable. That's why they are so noticeable. I can drive more than a week and not see an exotic car. However, I can't breathe without seeing a "pony car".
And that's why Porsche makes you get a certificate that says that you can drive the gt3rs instead of just giving it
Wowww really?
@@15DJONYXno
@@15DJONYXNo they don’t. People make shit up.
Why are you just lying?
@@fxlltxtsearch chill I said it as a joke 💀
Ah yes, the 930 TURBO 👹 👊🏻 💥 You DON'T want to mess with it
My friends dad had an 86’ 930 turbo years ago he inherited from his dad after he had passed suddenly. It was tracked and suffered a small front end collision which resulted in them slant nose swapping it. That was the first Porsche i ever rode in not to mention one of the most special in my eyes. He had it for sale for like 30k years ago which was sooo sad.
The 930 turbo is probably my favorite model of 911.
It's not the car being dangerous. It's bad drivers being dangerous !
I learned about my Turbo S on week one in 2014. I respect it and glad it has AWD.
That transition from regular model to turbo model is kinda sick
Back then they couldn't handle 300 crank hp😂. probably only 200rwhp considering how heavy they were.
1380kg or less ain’t heavy.
These Cars are fucking leight
I had a 1979 for 32 years and 180,000 miles. No accidents.
My guy said it sent many unexperienced drivers to heaven
I heard most of the accidents were in Australia. Plus even Walter Röhl said he couldn't tame it.
I had the 911 with the whale tail and ground effects. No turbo. Bought it in '87. Some Captain brought it back from Germany. I was stationed at Polk. Bought it from one of the dealers on Entrance Road. I think it was $27,000. Didnt keep it very long. Sold it back to the dealer I bought it from. Unbelievably fast even without the turbo. I drove them in Germany, saw one and wanted it. Owning it and daily driver, different story. When I was stationed in Germany a lot of officers bought the 924 or 944's. Even for its parts bin build I still like the 924.
Porsche Club Driver knew how to survive this.
😂
I like how the end and beginning merge perfectly.
Porsche, our engineers skipped physics.
I remember how cool it was when I was younger when my dad used to drive his porsche full throttle in corners. I would sit in the back of the car (small triangle seats) and feel like I was literally glued to the asphalt, because the whole car was so back heavy+ the grip. I couldnt hear anything except engine because it was so loud. it was awesome. Though I think it was more noisy than it should since he had built it.
Uncle wrapped one of those a round a tree right before I was born. Once those things lose control you’re in a spinning death machine.
Yes .Its also why all wheel drive (AWD )is standard on the 640 hp turbo S 911.
That last line was crazy☠️
The challenge of driving makes this car so entertaining for years upon years. Nowadays you can move a sports car safely at the limit after a single track day unless its maybe something extreme like the GT3 RS
El 935 es de mis autos favoritos junto con el 917 y el Ford Capri turbo grupos 5, esos autos son una delicia en manejo y diseño
I reckon at least 3 minutes of research went into writing and editing this piece. At least 3 minutes.
There is no 930 without turbo at all, guys. It is called 911. Nine eleven.
In 1978 my father bought a new Porsche 930 turbo and immediately knew it was a “handful”. On the day he went to pick up the car from the dealer it rained hard all day, and coming back home he took the same corner he always near our house, was going about 15 mph, and the car immediately spun in circles before he had a chance to correct it. After that day he only drove the car on dry days, and even then he didn’t speed. He kept the car for 6 months and it really annoyed him that he couldn’t drive the car fast, which was the main reason he bought it. He bought a new Porsche 928 afterwards, a car with excellent and easily controlled handling, it was also made really well and lasted 327,000 miles. Porsche has gotten rid of the handling problems of its rear engined car years ago.
my grandfather had a friend that passed away at the steering wheel of a 930T, he kissed a roadside tree at 200km/h
The engine behind the back tires is crazy but I still want one😂
One of the best Porsches ever
I had the privilege of driving one of those back in the day. Unbelievable experience!
The key, is in the braking, before the turn. Porsche 911, grabs on the front, outer tire or wheel. This can cause them to flip when hitting a turn without breaking first.
Widowmaker is wild😂
you want the power? YOU CANT HANDLE THE POWER
"And that's why this Porche is called the WIDOMAKER" - Sir @OfficialSpoilerAlert.
My cousin had a 930 slant nose that put down almost 700whp in Denver (ie 5283 feet) on a dyno. That’s close to 900hp at see level!
You've got the Turbos out of order: The 935 was created in 1976 AFTER the Porsche 930 was created. The 930 Turbo came first, then the 934 Group 4 and subsequently the 935 Group 5 that was also based on the 930.
In Germany we say "Power is nothing without Control"
935 was a Twin Turbo 845hp Beast, used to watch Alan Jones flog 6 litre V8 Chev powered Alfa Romeo GTV’s back in ‘82.
The Renault 5 copa turbo was like that, when you downshifted and get to certain rpm margin the turbo kicked in and sent you straight even in curves 😅