Rear Brake Service - Land Rover Discovery 3 and 4
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
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In this episode we service the rear brakes on our Land Rover Discovery 3, including setup of the EPB brake shoes.
We are not liable for any harm you do to your car, your engine, your surroundings or yourself. Use the information given in this video at your own risk.
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Vera & Christian
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Sunday wouldn't be a Sunday with out a video 👍👍
😅👍🙋♀Vera
Referred to this video when doing my LR Discovery 4 rear brakes, knew what to do in principle, but this video was full of really handy tips, thanks christian and Vera.
Simply marvellous both of you thanks for all the efforts to bring this amazingly interesting content to us.
I love this channel. The back and forth banter is so cute
Thank you guys give’s confidence to tackle jobs would never normally do ❤
Brilliant as ever , your so thorough ( better than garage would do) love you two!
It’s a good idea to do the stop at 35km occasionally to clean the shoes and the disc’s drum surface… they can corroded and pit if left for years only being activated when parked.
You mean 35000km. We have our wheels off more than most people and inspect our brakes regularly. 👍🙋♀️Vera
I think James T meant at 35 km per hour, as per the brake bedding-in procedure that you demonstrated. (You know where the farmer thought you were weird.)
@@jeffreywilkinson2679 correctermondo 👍
I used a screw extractor for the first time to remove my Haldex gen 1 screw and replace the Haldex Control oil. I'm so happy as I failed initially by buying a thread tap, thinking it was the same thing. It was a nightmare to me. Thank you for inspiring me. Greetings from Auckland.
I referred to your video constantly when I was doing my rear brakes before going on a trip. My two young sons are intrigued when I talk about ‘Christian und Vera’ **whilst doing the accent***
😅👍🙋♀️Vera
Good evening Vera and Christian 😀 Just stopped for the night in my lorry and your video is perfect to start my relaxing evening 👍🏻😍
😃👍🙋♀️Vera
Swapped complete rear axle on my 90 last week, bought a Disco 1 axle and my mate welded up a truss kit and heavy duty diff pan, then with help from another mate we rebuilt the complete axle with a locking diff. New brakes and calipers with pads fitted as well.
Hi, nachdem ich nun eine heiß werdende Bremsscheibe hinten links habe, verstehe ich durch dieses Video was zu tun ist. Vielen Dank für Eure Mühe mit dem Video.
Hier ist noch eins die das Thema beinhaltet.czcams.com/video/KEKsUBTtuDU/video.htmlsi=WJIOPkAvYJQuDYzX Ich sollte wirklich mal eine Playlist für Bremsen erstellen. 😅👍🙋♀️
vielen Dank, das hilft sehr. aktuell suche ich mir einen Wolf für die Ersatzteile.....
PARTS LIST - 2008 mod Discovery 3
2 x SXP50013 Caliper bracket/carrier
4 x SYG000013 Caliper bracket bolts
2 x SOB500042 Caliper
4 x COPPER WASHER FOR BRAKE HOSE
@@Vera_and_Christian
When pushing pistons back into the caliper I first loosen the bleed nipple. This avoids the need to draw fluid from the reservoir and avoids pushing fluid from the calliper back into the hydraulic pipes and worse the ABS pump. The fluid in the callipers may have been through many heat cycles and may contain contaminants from corrosion and degraded seals.
I've started doing this too these days. Avoids any tiny risk of debris in the fluid getting into the ABS unit, but I also find it less effort than drawing fluid from the reservoir, and why not drain out a bit of the oldest and dirtiest fluid (in calliper) rather than the newest and cleanest (in the reservoir)?
You guys are great Vera running the floor jack like a boss great stuff wiper blade and chainsaw conflict at the end a classic kudos Christian nailed it like a boss back to my saw lol
I always take a photo on the wife's iPad of the brake drums to see where the springs go before I do anything , also on disk brakes I always put a tiny bit of copper grease on thank you for the video
Good maintenance for the D3, great 👏💯
Hi, another amazing video how to sort your self and the rear brakes out . Thank you both .
I have some issues with the EPB of my D4 and thought, it might be worth to check for a video on youtube. And big surprise, my favorite LR champs just broadcasted this video today. It seems, I'm a lucky guy. Thanks to Vera and Christian.
😃👍We have also made a video when we replaced the gears on our EPB in the winter of 20/21. 🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian I know.🥰
Thank you, this is one of my next jobs and will be very helpful!
Always enjoy watching your videos!
Very informative video.. I didn't know about the bedding in procedure.
Regards
Peter
Replaced the rear brake pads on my D2. Took all of 20 minutes. No ebrake. I have this lever (handbrake). No electric wear sensors. No bedding procedure. Just drove it.
This is perfect, I'm about to replace all my brakes and rotors will definitely be doing this while I have them out, Thank you!!!
Nice little video and I hope you keep them going even if you do get the Grenadier.
We won't be selling our Discovery 3 for sure, no matter what we decide.😃👍🙋♀️Vera
Waiting for the Sunday joys of a video 😀😀😀👍👍👍
Wow. That's quite a procedure!
Amazing content...greetings from Brazil
Great video
Great episode this week guys , shame you have to take one side apart again to replace the wheel bearing. Bodsy’s brake Bible is the best guide on how to service the rear brakes ( I know you guys have mentioned it before ) , for diy viewers who would like a pdf download . But it’s much better to see it done like you have just shown , and we all forget to snip off that cable tie .
I liked the coffee cups at the end to keep Toyota owners happy , though they must’ve been confused by the rubber mallet , as they are used to using a 5lb hammer or bigger lol ...
Looking forward to next Sunday , take care
😃👍 First we got to finish our big project in our driveway🙄😅 🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian oooh , what project Vera ?? 🤗🔧
Just done 700 miles in my Disco 3 Absolutely perfect round the mountains of Wales 🏴 I had a bet with a friend of mine that I will have at least get two or three red lights on the dash before I got back but I can safely say none at all hurrah 😃
Great video as always, the tie rap trick on the spring is ingenious! Been using that trick since when doing different Landy (disco’s / rr sport) rear brake repairs!
I saw a video called let’s talk Toyota! It was a very short video mainly of a bloke sitting in his garage drinking tea
Thanks guys, another useful video.👍🏼
Good stress free informative video, and yes it is not a difficult job replacing the brake pads, rotors and parking brake shoes. My son did my rear brakes including the rotors. I watched. My son is an apprentice mechanic. He did my front ones a little while ago. Now the inner front left CV boot is damaged. He will be replacing that also.
On my previous vehicles I used to take the old rubber insert off the front wipers and chose the best for the rear - the rear wiper hardly ever got used. Nowadays I replace front & rears at the same time with new ones. Either I was a cheapscate or now couldn't be bothered as new ones are easier 😁
It's always good to have someone handy around. 😃💪🙋♀Vera
Well done guys. I just love you work and fun. Keep up the good work>>Cheers from Downunder.
What a coincidence! I literally just finished doing the rear brakes on mine last night 😂
Good, I am glad you still drive it. Christian
and I have to do mine :(
Excellent video thanks.
Super video and explanation 👍👍
Awesome as always..
Thanks for the video, very helpful.
I just did the brakes on my Jeep with Powerstops new rotors and pads. Those parking brake shoes are such a pain in the butt to replace and adjust. Jeeps do not have an external adjustment hole for the shoes, so you have to pull the rotor off every time that it needs to be adjusted. I wish mine had that little adjustment hole to finalize the park brake adjustment.
It's not just LR but I hate these style of in hub handbrake units plus electrical operation, as I say many manufacturers use them but they are not home mechanic friendly. Great video as always guys, Christian is like a TV Haynes manual, all Discovery owners require.... all the best Phil and Louise
😅👍🙋♀️Vera
Very well done and thanks I actually have done this on my own and it made think why didn’t they just stick to the transmission brake as I have on my defender and series which is so much better!
Excellent vid...TY. I'm hoping it's the same procedure for an 2012 LR4.
Hi guys those brakes are like mine on my 1970 series 2 hope you are both well take care phill&Christine England
If it was a TOYOTA it would never need brakes replacing as they last forever. Even in the outback here in OZ! I have a late model Toyota Hilux and a Prado across the road from my house and they never break ever ever ever...and they have a hammer and shifter in the glovebox, which does all repair work if required.
I think Christian also needs a Tattoo that's says "I LUV TOYOTAS" and "COPPER GREASE"
Vera , when Christian is asleep please write in on his arm in large Black sharpie/Nikko pen.......lol It will take at least 3 days for it to fade......Luv your work!
😅👍🙋♀️Vera
Good video.
I always use EBC green stuff discs and pads as standard on all my vehicles, I find them better than oem. But always use genuine accessorie pack (as you found better clips etc).
That breakin is almost as weird as the old Rover 2000
Drive thru the parking lot in reverse pulling up the emergency brake until it's the right height.
Thank you.
3rd time I watch this video 🏋🏻🏋🏻🏋🏻 Excellent stuff! I am so pumped up that I got myself brand new Brembo discs and pads for Xmas 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻. You think I can tackle this over the weekend? It’ll be my first 😁😁😁 My Disco3 will love it 😁😁😁😁😁 Let’s go!!!!!
😀👍💪Don't let yourself get fooled by CZcamsrs, they cut out all the bad and difficult parts. 😅 Just kidding, be thorough and take your time, then you'll be just fine, if you have worked on cars before. And do it with the Haynes Workshop manual, you'll need torques. 🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian 😂😂😂😂😂 Thx guys! I will try my best and send you videos once I’m done 😁😁😁💪🏻💪🏻 Happy new year!
I think I am going to have to call Christian the Copper Grease Kid. Thanks for the video once again.
Great to catch up with you guys again. When you started the D3 I was like... OMG, That sounds terrible... Then the caption came in that it was before you changed the oil pump lol. 👍See you next week
You are the only one who noticed that 😅👍 I told Christian that we have to caption that otherwise we'll get so many comments that our new oilpump is bad again. 😃🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian it's good that he listens to you 🤣👍
Very nice thank you so much.
Please don't use a pair of grips on the caliper piston to retract it, you can leave the old pad in place and press on that with the grips to avoid any damage.
haha I had the same thing. 10 mins to pull apart and clean, an hour to get those fricken handbrake shoe clips back on!!!
😅👍🙋♀Vera
Well I hope you have better luck with the Brembo discs than I did. They went rusty behind so badly that the steering wheel shook under braking. Took me a while to realise what was wrong. Replaced with Textar coated. Please don't sell the 4. Have you changed the cam and fuel pump belts? Much harder than on the 3, particularly if you have the stop/ start system. The fuel pump belt is timed as it's a two rather than three cylinder pump. Keep up the good work!
Our LR 4 just has not enough kms on it yet to do any of the major maintenace repairs. 😃👍🙋♀️Vera
I have run Brembo for 2 years and no rust at all. I have the V8 brakes so maybe they are different quality 🤷♂
In first, I know I'm going to like it
😅👍🙋♀Vera
Sorry Gordy but I piped you to the post
But have a good Sunday enjoy the video 👍👍👋👋
Nice job, as always!
BTW, I'm really excited about the future videos you have been hinting at on Instagram...! I can't wait!! 😁
Coming. 😅👍🙋♀️Vera
You have a great show here Christian and Vera, I always look forwards to watching, how about doing a special episode titled BR Time?
🤔 What do you mean with BR Time? 😃🙋♀Vera
Yeah,like Vera said , what's BR time ??? 🤔
Took me a while. to watch after the Ineos bombshell
😅👍We just made a video about the Grenadier. I don't think you find another CZcams Channel, with LR content or offroad content, who hasn't done that. We'll keep our Disco 3 forever. 🙋♀Vera
Nice solid episode. Why not have a status update on how Fabians rebuilt engine is going?
When Christian has time to edit the footage, we'll put it on CZcams of course. But I can tell you that it's running, no major issues. 😃🙋♀️Vera
Hi nice video but for Discovery 4 how to put the engine in neutral without the engine running to perform maintenance on the rear brakes ?
Thanks
Hi guys. Thank you so much for your videos. Is there a certain procedure to follow in order to put the Electronic Park Brake in service mode on a Land Rover Discovery 4? Do I need a diagnostic tool to do that or is there some or method which I can follow? Thank you in advance.
you left out the white shoes, they are lying by the car, I had just 1 1/2 hands to do this, but dismantled 3 weeks ago so i forgot DANKE
Is there a reason that the 'barrel adjuster, is at a different 'clock position' on each side? On most cars they are the same (top/ bottom/ etc).
Another great video! Im going to service my LR4 brakes soon, I think with EBC rotors :)
Couple things - bedding in would only be required with new parking brake shoes no? as you are preparing the brake pads more then the disk.
2nd - I'm not 100% certain but I believe those brembo brakes are made in China lol, they are the lower end brembo products.
I have to say, you could definitely feel a difference in the braking behavior of the embedding procedure. I would for sure do it, and it's no big deal. I just don't like the sudden stop, I get sick to my stomach so easily. 😅🙋♀️Vera
Good tips in this video. Complicated assembly. Makes you wonder what your average brake and muffler shop would do. Why mark it with white paint if it is 10 clicks? Just as a verification step?
Because you can't rotate it exact one revolution with the screwdriver, just little increments each time. Yeah so it is to verify that you did indeed go full revolutions. 🙋♀️Vera
Another nice video - about to do mine tonight. I am curious about the jacking point - can you clarify whereabouts the jack engages as it looks the best way to get both sides up at once. Many thanks
We use the second crossmember (there are two), the one between the two skid plates, to jack up the car. Sorry for the late reply, you probaboly already did the job, but I had no time earlier. 🙋♀️Vera
Should the car be in neutral or park when adjusting the shoes? Thank you
You can rotate the rear wheels in either, if both of them are off the ground. If only one is off the ground, it needs to be in neutral.
Thanks for another great instruction video. Some great tips. I ve tried looking for the manual you guys print out for your repairs. I can't seem to find it. Any tips on getting the digital copy?
The workshop manual is from disco3.co.Uk. Christian
Another great video. Question:
On the front brakes, what would cause the disc brake (inner) Dust shields to be coming loose and start to rattle?
This recently happened on my Ranger-rover Sport L320. The brake pads and discs themselves, are fine and do not need replacing.
For the time being, so that I don’t need to take off the entire disc assembly, I have secured the front Dust shields with 3 strategically placed zip (cable) ties. It seems to have solved the problem. But what caused them to become loose in the first place?
The rear disc brake Dust shields and still tightly secured.
Not sure. Ours are corroded badly. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian Yes , I think mine have probably corroded in the holes where they are bolted on.
Hi guys any chance of doing a chain saw video, my son's got one and I haven't on the servicing, cheers. Great vid today, I've got a shotgun and the hand brake pads can be a nightmare
Christian will be very happy to read that. We filmed all of it. 😅👍🙋♀Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian omg shogun not shotgun lols
When replacing the rear rotors do you need to put the park brake in service mode or can you just loosen the sprocket so you can remove the rotor?
We show everything in this video. 👍🙋♀️
considerably fewer "Oh My God's" this week ...lol 😁😁
😅👍Next week are definitely more. 🙋♀️Vera
Try ATE next time instead of Brembo its much better and stay clean of rust much longer ;) I like yours content so much that I start watching from clicking Like just realized lol
Always gets me… we have metric sockets sets with all metric sockets etc and they give you 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 extensions, ratchets and breaker bars 🤦♂️
Totally agree. It took me also longer than I'd like to admitt to learn the difference between them. 😅👍🙋♀️Vera
Christian, where do you stand on wheel nuts....? Full stainless - not Chinesium - nuts could be an exciting new way to spend money 😅
Yes we know all about it. We have spend our fair share of money replacing crappy wornout wheel nuts on our Land Rovers. And Christian actually goes all out and gets expensive ones. But that was before CZcams. We are about ready to get another set for my Disco, then we'll put it in a video. 👍🙋♀️Vera
Nice work! Are you guys planning any overland holidays this year?
Well, only short trips to the Alps with Christian, and lots of trips to BMX parks and contests with Philipp hopefully. 🙋♀️Vera
Is Brembo the OE manufacturer for Land Rover brakes? I need to change mine but not sure which brand to buy :-(. My breaks squeal at the moment (the are Ferodo)
Not sure. Brembo is a decent aftermarket brand I think. Christian
Was that coffee in the wiper out take?! 😮
We drink coffee, but we have enough good content that we don't need to show how we make coffee to fill up a video. 😅👍🙋♀️Vera
If i was to just change rear discs/rotors and pads do i still need to put the electric hand brake into service mode??...anyone no.. thanks
All you got to do is push the button and pull the key out. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian but if i put the electric park brake on the disc won't come off because the brake shoes will lock the disc on.
@@rustytwinkles7762 I know your comment was a year ago, but the point is that pushing the button while you pull the key out stops the hand brake coming on automatically. That's what lets you get the disc off. That's how I understood the video, anyway.
nice !!! so that pre order of Ineos ??
on my Toyota the brakes change themselves
Lol 😂 🏆
Did Christian fix the wear sensor that he broke? Thanks for the video?
No he hasn't since the sensor itself is not broken. 👍🙋♀️Vera
Cheers guys mine are due for a complete strip down a service and I’ve noticed the caliper rubber has ripped on my drivers side. Can these be replaced? The caliper is only 9 months old.
Yes, there are repair kits available. Aftermarket. Christian
Hi Christian and Vera. Excuse my ignorance but what is so special about copper grease? Couldn’t you just use ordinary grease?
Think copper crease tolerates higher temperatures.. ordinary grease would burn off
Copper grease is more moisture and heat resistant. But we use it only for static contact surfaces. 🙋♀Vera
Hi Christian and Vera (and David), it would be better to use Ceramic brake grease ,such as “Ceratec” on brake pad ends and the caliper carriers as copper grease causes electrolytic corrosion and actually makes the situation worse accelerating the corrosion. Ceratec contains no metal and also stays in place much longer than copper grease. I switched from using copper grease on my customers vehicles a few years ago and can see the difference it's made.
Great video as usuall, those parking brake shoes look like a real pain to do.
I will have to do this job soon..... Can I borrow Vera????
😅👍🙋♀️Vera
Why did you pick Brembo brake parts over Jurid or ATE etc, was it price or knowledge of quality?
Well, we use the brands we have experiene with, we are convinced by, and most importantly which are available and affordable to us on the German market. So Brembo it is for our Brakes. 👍🙋♀️Vera
I always use EBC green stuff, in my experience these are better ghan oem.
Nice i think no shop does the bedding procedure, i can remeber the first time that i pulled the Handbrakeswitch during driving... not a nice experience.
My comment seems to have deleted itself so I'll try again.
Take a close look at your video and spot the error. Front wheel chocking? 🤔
You had one job Vera 🤣🤣
I think you have to explain yourself a little better. 🙋♀Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian OK. You chocked the front wheels on the wrong side. As it was jacked up, there was nothing stopping it from rolling forward off the jack. On a slope it would potentially have come off the axle stands, fortunately your drive seems level so all good. Could easily have been an accident.
It seems to me their drive is loping towards the garage. I would chock it like Vera did. No way it is going to roll uphill. On level ground, would it even need chocks? 🤔
@@cliff4wd 😅👍That must have been aaaaaall Christian's fault, I only do what he tells me 😂Sorrry about the comment, but I got so many rude comments this time, some of them I delelted. I think sometimes viewers forget that we are real people, and not robots who read our comments. 🙋♀Vera
@@cliff4wd I checked the video again, and I did everything correct. If you watch carefully you might notice that the car is the otherway around and I put the chucks underneath the front wheel, so that the car will not roll down. We made that repair already a couple of weeks ago and I trusted what you wrote was correct and I did a mistake. But I did everything right, I always do everything right. ☹😅🙋♀Vera
Easier to do on Toyota trust me (DIY”er ) 👍👍
Careful you don't brake anything, OMG.
Lol she's grrreeeaat 😂
the rear suspension is not too pretty .....
No it's not, we have done the suspension, front and rear, already twice. But that was before we made CZcams videos unfortunately. 😅👍🙋♀Vera
Christian who in their right mind would design an electric brake in such a way? It’s an abomination!
I can’t understand why people love LDs as they do. Apart from being hopelessly over/under engineered they are a money pit to own.
Compare it with a premium vehicle, like BMW, Mercedes or VW, the design is rather normal and well done. Compared with a solid Off Road car, like a Toyota What Cruiser, it is indeed less reliable. Christian
More compulsive LR Time viewing even though I don't own a D3. (Actually own a D2 Td5)
💪👍 Now that we are part of a Land Rover Club, I certainly hope to see and learn more about the D2's. I just really love the looks of them. 🙋♀️Vera
I respect you I really respect you but I don't understand you!!! Take care.
What are you not understanding? 🤔😉🙋♀️Vera
Great video guys, i hate to be the bearer of bad news but, if you look on the brembo boxes, you will see the country of manufacture is "CHINA" !
Brembo moved their operations to china 2 years ago. Sorry christian.
Air shocks? So what? Anyone can put those on. Landrovers are not that fancy. Air leaks out over time. A lift kit is better if you have a true 4x4.
You must be a Toyota driver, but wait, not even Toyota drivers are that blunt when writing comments. Who are you and why do you watch our videos again? Remember, we are just a couple who own and love our Land Rovers, we are not representing Land Rover as a brand. 😅👍🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Hey take it easy. Sorry no offense. Just think Landrovers are junky and overpriced.