Please compare Alonso and Stroll in Q1. It would be interesting to see where the massive difference comes from. It seems like there wasn't an issue with the car on Stroll's end, just a lacking pace. Maybe the difference was used tyres or track conditions, but nearly 8 tenths between teammates is crazy either way.
Just like in Bahrain, Red Bull showed they've improved in slow-speed corners and traction. Also, better downforce despite the wind??? The massive difference in 130R makes me doubt it
"difference in 130r makes me doubt it" Why? "Flat corner" stands for a reason. Why corner is "flat"? Because car was not able to reach higher speed than can carry through it. With headwind and increased drag in 2024, top speed was smaller than with tailwind and reduced drag.
And I want to remind you that this year in Suzuka we race at the beginning of the season, if we had raced at the end of the season like last year, the improvement would probably have been more than a second
Yup this plays a major factor in laptime comparison, as the teams would have gained so much more speed after developments....so abu dhabi would probably be the best track to compare in order to offset the race calendar timeframe factor
I was watching Alonso 2023 and 2024 onboard and it's crazy how much that car improved in the span of 6 months, almost 2 seconds of difference on the laptimes on Q3
One of the main problems RedBull had last year was slow corners. Well, I think they have fixed it and I don't doubt that times will maybe similar to 2019
The 2023 car was even a lot faster on the straights but still the 2024 car, despite the weather, was 7 tenths faster😳; the mechanical grip on that car is on another planet. At Monaco and Hungary I think Red Bull will absolutely demolish the 2023 laptimes.
Yeah Checo really had a special lap there. I think he said literally the first corner he entered slower than his previous laps otherwise he would of been up a tenth
I thought this year pole lap would go to the 27s. Quite disappointing from Max as well and he said he left time on the table, a 28 flat was definitely on the table.
Suzuka was late in the season and now it's early so only 6 months apart, yesterday was raining and compromised the setup and track condition, the wind was much worse in 2024
I understood well that you reversed between the Hairpin Corner exit and 200R up to Spoon. Thank you for including the corner names. Is T16-17 referring to the chicane?
Please please please make a video on Alonso 2023 vs Alonso 2024 in japan quali.. It would be awesome to see the advancement of a car within 6 months... Thank you. You're doing a great job. 👍👍
While there was a tailwind through the esses and Degner 2, there were headwinds in the crucial exits of the hairpin, spoon and Casio. Will the wind play a role in the race? It's predicted to be light and in the normal configuration. It's likely at two stopper, and being very difficult to pass on track being strategic with the timing of the stop can be decisive in both good or bad ways.
Hey bro, can you record comparison of AMR23 last year at Suzuka here, and AMR24 ? Because that almost 2 SECONDS difference is....fucking huge haha, AMR23 - 1.30.4 time in Q2, AMR24 - 1.28.6 in Q3
The speeds in most corners and the top speed on straights are significantly lower than last year, but the lap times are better this year. Is it correct to interpret this as meaning that the average speed before and after the measurement point is faster this year?
In that case Verstappen did better than I expected! I didn't pay attention to the wind direction difference! Good call sir. That man is an overachiever when it comes to driving.
@@VColossalV Not yet, he's almost earned it. Checo's been good in Suzuka since 2011, now it's time to convert. He could have won it in 2012 easily, 12 years later it's his best chance since.
This year's car despite the tail wind, doing well in slow corners in terms of higher apex speed and earlier acceleration....Monaco and Hungary should be great
@@silverberrymoonglade55 Yeah, from 8 tenths back to nearly half a tenth is insane. I watched his laps of 2023 and 2024 side by side, it was like seeing a completely different driver
fun fact: It's literally the same lap, however with a different car, max brakes exactly at the same point on both laps and accelerates exactly at the same point on both laps
I did believe Max’s radio saying he could’ve done better in his lap in 2024 and I’m talking about his final sector. All quali he EXCELLED at getting a lot of lap time there, except for his final run in Q3. Still though. Still Suzuka is turning into one of Max’s best in the calendar.
It was only in the last 3 corners that made the difference.. and this cannot be a good comparison because of many factors that could have made the difference
Last year cars went with a lower downforce setup, expecially Red Bull. T1 was slower because of this reason and T2 and T3 were massively quicker because of this reason and cars being generally faster. Perez last year was 0,5s off Verstappen in T1, this year was only few cents off. This is due to RB 20 having much better rear stability but also Red Bull going with a medium-high downforce setup. Verstappen best quality is being good in high speed with an unstable rear end. If you add downforce his strenght is less visible (similar to Leclerc).
Considering he had some tenths left in 2024 lap, we can safely say RB20 is faster than RB19 by 1s aprox. Adrian Newey simply nailed those regulations. If, by any mistake, RB will let him go, they will stop winning. End of disscussion.
To be honest with you this isn't a massive improvement like we saw with Merc when they brought W11 compared to W10 which was 1s faster so kind of a disappointment to be honest with you to see only 6 tenths improvement in winter and then two massive upgrades in one in Bahrain race 1 and than suzuka
Are you slow? Suzuka was late in the season and now it's early so only 6 months apart, yesterday was raining and compromised the setup and track condition, the wind was much worse in 2024
Last year's car had a better set up for Max even though it was slower (impressive that they gained 6 tenths in 6 months with worse track conditions) You can see in the final sector and also at the exit of spoon, that Max had tons of understeer today, which he hates and Chéco love. When the car will be a little bit more oversteer, like he prefer, he will destroy Chéco again, this is hardly encouraging for Pérez, just shows he's still slower even with a car that has the right set up for him.
@@BayernSupremacy_ So, in your world, making an analysis is making excuses? I'm stating what i'm stating because i think it's fun to share hindsight and having technical discussions with other fans, it's also a way for myself to make a prediction, Verstappen is going to destroy Pérez once again this season (he's already doing it anyway) after he found the right set up, that's it. Verstappen has an early turn in and likes a pointy car, every knowledgeable fans are aware of this, while Chéco prefer understeer as it helps him balancing the rear on the car. Just shows you the difference between a good driver and a great driver.
I am getting sick of Max not even throwing together perfect laps and getting pole. He's the best driver on the grid right now absolutely, but he also by far has the best machine and it's getting boring
In all fairness even in 2022 and 2023 Leclerc wasn't doing perfect laps either and got a lot of poles. It isn't easy to do a perfect lap with the ground effect cars.
He's throwing together better laps than the rest of the grid and the car isn't that much faster, if it was Perez would be p2 every race instead of a midfield driver
Why is Stroll so much slower than Alonso in Japan 2024 qualifying: czcams.com/video/NzS9UZIR_ZI/video.html
Nice i love creators like you that knows what their fans wants in the comments
Please compare Alonso and Stroll in Q1. It would be interesting to see where the massive difference comes from. It seems like there wasn't an issue with the car on Stroll's end, just a lacking pace. Maybe the difference was used tyres or track conditions, but nearly 8 tenths between teammates is crazy either way.
Its just a Skill issue
@@johnd9137 That is no wonder but the commenter requested to compare them, so you could see more easily where Stroll really meased up
Will this be for data related reasons and (or) amusement? Both are credible reasons
There is an issue with Stroll's car, it is between the steering wheel and the racing seat.
I'm guessing stroll only used 5 gears.
Just like in Bahrain, Red Bull showed they've improved in slow-speed corners and traction. Also, better downforce despite the wind??? The massive difference in 130R makes me doubt it
you mean Red Bull or this Toro Rosso or whatever it’s called
@@Loduwa_46 yeah it's confusing now😂. However, I think it's obvious that I'm talking about Red Bull, mainly because the videos is about them
@@Loduwa_46well they aren't called red bull are they?
"difference in 130r makes me doubt it"
Why? "Flat corner" stands for a reason. Why corner is "flat"? Because car was not able to reach higher speed than can carry through it. With headwind and increased drag in 2024, top speed was smaller than with tailwind and reduced drag.
well actually they once said that the RB in the name stands for 'Red Bull' not Racing Bulls soooo it's really confusing
And I want to remind you that this year in Suzuka we race at the beginning of the season, if we had raced at the end of the season like last year, the improvement would probably have been more than a second
Fact mate ❤
Yup this plays a major factor in laptime comparison, as the teams would have gained so much more speed after developments....so abu dhabi would probably be the best track to compare in order to offset the race calendar timeframe factor
Very true. Adrian Newey would have showed more like a 1-1.5 second off from 2023. ;)
Rocket on the straights, glued to the track through the corners. No wonder why Max and Checo are having so much fun.
Sure, but you have to be consistent in getting out the most of it all the time
I was watching Alonso 2023 and 2024 onboard and it's crazy how much that car improved in the span of 6 months, almost 2 seconds of difference on the laptimes on Q3
One of the main problems RedBull had last year was slow corners. Well, I think they have fixed it and I don't doubt that times will maybe similar to 2019
I was waiting for this. Thank you mate, great content ❤
damn!! that comparison detail even the track condition at start was brilliant, hat off to you sir you done a great job take my subscribe !!!!
Again an excellent analysis. Well done! You have earned my subscription, with thanks!
Great analysis buddy, it’s even better watching it in the garage when you work there👌
Both cars are so stable through the turns
Please compare the laps of max and checo
I kid you not I just watched the pole lap from the F1 channel, it finishes and then this comes up. Timing to perfection 😂
So u are telling me 7 tenths off-ed today's Lewis W15 matched last year RB's pole time meaning Mercs are 1 whole year behind the development😮?
Not 1 year cause Japanese GP this year is earlier than last year.
What is bro cooking 😂
More like 6 months ISH cause Japan was late last year
@@kwanzafrank2902 I don't think Merc will be anywhere close to Red Bull even after 6 months...
6 months* behind RB19 and far ahead of W14
The 2023 car was even a lot faster on the straights but still the 2024 car, despite the weather, was 7 tenths faster😳; the mechanical grip on that car is on another planet. At Monaco and Hungary I think Red Bull will absolutely demolish the 2023 laptimes.
Indeed
I think Ferrari will be better in Hungary. The track looks like it is built for their car
i think this year there was high tailwinds, most like explains the deficit on the straight
Also the Japanese gp is so much earlier in the year compared to last year, else the gap would have been even bigger
now compare MAX and Checo's lap that spoon curse was too fast taken by Checo
Also Degner1, min speed 270kmh breaking the record (Leclerc 268kmh in 2022)
checo was cooking
Yeah Checo really had a special lap there. I think he said literally the first corner he entered slower than his previous laps otherwise he would of been up a tenth
The music played in between the statistics wins my heart again and again❤❤
I thought this year pole lap would go to the 27s.
Quite disappointing from Max as well and he said he left time on the table, a 28 flat was definitely on the table.
Mainly becoz of weather, yesterday was raining which further hinder their setup nd also due to tht there is less grip also
max confirmed washed
Suzuka was late in the season and now it's early so only 6 months apart, yesterday was raining and compromised the setup and track condition, the wind was much worse in 2024
always look forward to your breakdown videos 👍🏼👍🏼
what's the name of the music you use in yoru videos please ?
Great video and analysis. Could it be possible to replicate the video on other drivers to see if the others did the same improvements?
Great to see this comparison
What's with the blur effect at 2:27 ?
I understood well that you reversed between the Hairpin Corner exit and 200R up to Spoon.
Thank you for including the corner names. Is T16-17 referring to the chicane?
Please please please make a video on Alonso 2023 vs Alonso 2024 in japan quali.. It would be awesome to see the advancement of a car within 6 months...
Thank you. You're doing a great job. 👍👍
This and formula addict are the greatest F1 channels I’ve ever seen
Anyone know what Lando's sector 1 time was? Was that quicker than Max's 2023 sector 1 time?
30.800 & marginally slower than Max's 2023 sector 1 time of 30.725.
@@TheJokerit19 But didn't Lando get purple sector 1?
@@LastLapLando No, second fastest in that sector.
@@LastLapLando on first run
@@LastLapLando Fastest in 1st laps, Max took it in the 2nd laps
Crazy how similar his moments and positions are in the early turns, almost exactly the same 🤯in the later turns I think 2024 takes the top, so stable.
Max's T5 in 2023 was MEGA
While there was a tailwind through the esses and Degner 2, there were headwinds in the crucial exits of the hairpin, spoon and Casio. Will the wind play a role in the race? It's predicted to be light and in the normal configuration. It's likely at two stopper, and being very difficult to pass on track being strategic with the timing of the stop can be decisive in both good or bad ways.
Hey bro, can you record comparison of AMR23 last year at Suzuka here, and AMR24 ? Because that almost 2 SECONDS difference is....fucking huge haha, AMR23 - 1.30.4 time in Q2, AMR24 - 1.28.6 in Q3
how does he get the telemetry?
The speeds in most corners and the top speed on straights are significantly lower than last year, but the lap times are better this year. Is it correct to interpret this as meaning that the average speed before and after the measurement point is faster this year?
Can you do a video if Alonso's lap, please? That lap was perfect!
can you please compare checo's lap and max's lap (q3 second run) from this year?
your channel is much better than formula addict
it'd be great if you can compare the times of other teams, or teams that actually became slower than their previous year quali on the same track
Super Max did the best time in the train in 2023, and he did better his time from the next year! Max Max Max... super Max!
Consistency king 👑
You should also compare Sergio’s lap this year to his previous one he was absolutely on it for the first time in a while.
Watching the onboard it was like watching another driver compared to last year. It was more like a Max onboard.
@@BayernSupremacy_ yes he went around the double left at the end of sector 2 so fast I think it was faster than max
It’s cool getting to see pure winter break progression.
Kind of. If not for the rain and wind, the difference would be much more
damn wind, I really wanted to see how much faster S1 would have been...
In that case Verstappen did better than I expected! I didn't pay attention to the wind direction difference! Good call sir. That man is an overachiever when it comes to driving.
No praise for Perez
@@VColossalV Not yet, he's almost earned it. Checo's been good in Suzuka since 2011, now it's time to convert. He could have won it in 2012 easily, 12 years later it's his best chance since.
Look at the T5 speeds from 23 & 24. It is a big difference.
Better high-speed cornering performance and better straight-line speed in 23. Curious.
I wanna see a comparison between Max's lap and Checo's lap, because that was actually magical
Please adjust the graphics in the video for better experience 🤌🏻
There was def more on the table he was right
This year's car despite the tail wind, doing well in slow corners in terms of higher apex speed and earlier acceleration....Monaco and Hungary should be great
According to f1tempo, Perez managed 270 kph in degner 1. Do you have the telemetry data to confirm this?
I looked at the lap through F1Multiviewer's telemetry tool and it is true.
That's crazy, Perez really improved massively this weekend compared to last season in suzuka.
@@silverberrymoonglade55 Yeah, from 8 tenths back to nearly half a tenth is insane. I watched his laps of 2023 and 2024 side by side, it was like seeing a completely different driver
On the straight that 2023 car is a rocket
Rain setup this year, compromised a lot
the straight line speeds for 2024 are so much slower everywhere, but faster lap time overall.
It’s just a compromise in set up.
Rain setup
T5 in 2023 was incredible.
Why does 2023 sound so crispy
We would want to see a comparison of Alonso and Stroll during Q1. Please hit like to support guys 💪🏿💪🏿
that would be funny
@@sirmounted8499 Aston needs a driver upgrade.
fun fact: It's literally the same lap, however with a different car, max brakes exactly at the same point on both laps and accelerates exactly at the same point on both laps
And then Max is like "It was alright.... I could have done better." 😂
I did believe Max’s radio saying he could’ve done better in his lap in 2024 and I’m talking about his final sector. All quali he EXCELLED at getting a lot of lap time there, except for his final run in Q3. Still though. Still Suzuka is turning into one of Max’s best in the calendar.
can you do a Max vs Checo lao analysis?
It was only in the last 3 corners that made the difference.. and this cannot be a good comparison because of many factors that could have made the difference
Sebastian Vettel lap is insane
Singapore is gonna be good
i knew this vid was coming, because you know your shit!
Last year cars went with a lower downforce setup, expecially Red Bull.
T1 was slower because of this reason and T2 and T3 were massively quicker because of this reason and cars being generally faster.
Perez last year was 0,5s off Verstappen in T1, this year was only few cents off.
This is due to RB 20 having much better rear stability but also Red Bull going with a medium-high downforce setup.
Verstappen best quality is being good in high speed with an unstable rear end.
If you add downforce his strenght is less visible (similar to Leclerc).
1:27 was possible I think. Max wasn't perfect yesterday, He was so close compared to Check this year
What happened to the grass?????
He Is doing the same steering imputs
Max’s 2023 T5 still holding up….
Considering he had some tenths left in 2024 lap, we can safely say RB20 is faster than RB19 by 1s aprox.
Adrian Newey simply nailed those regulations. If, by any mistake, RB will let him go, they will stop winning. End of disscussion.
Max has been driving like a super sayian!
Only 0.066 ahead of Perez. Calm down
@@BayernSupremacy_It’s not just speed kid. Consistency too
Max Verstappen 2024: "my bad, could make a better lap" 🦁🇳🇱
Can you compare Hamilton and Verstappen quali laps ? In reference to Hamilton's "where's that half a second ?"
Left is right after you eat chilly
Right is right after you eat sushi
So, if it weren't for the wind, Max could probably have lowered the time of 2023 by more than 1 second.
Compare 2017
slower + slower+ slower = faster 😏
im scared really
各ポイントのスピードは2023の方が早いけど全体では2024の方が早い...
って事はコーナリングお化けってことか！！
No funny hud this year?
To be honest with you this isn't a massive improvement like we saw with Merc when they brought W11 compared to W10 which was 1s faster so kind of a disappointment to be honest with you to see only 6 tenths improvement in winter and then two massive upgrades in one in Bahrain race 1 and than suzuka
Are you slow? Suzuka was late in the season and now it's early so only 6 months apart, yesterday was raining and compromised the setup and track condition, the wind was much worse in 2024
Last year's car had a better set up for Max even though it was slower (impressive that they gained 6 tenths in 6 months with worse track conditions)
You can see in the final sector and also at the exit of spoon, that Max had tons of understeer today, which he hates and Chéco love.
When the car will be a little bit more oversteer, like he prefer, he will destroy Chéco again, this is hardly encouraging for Pérez, just shows he's still slower even with a car that has the right set up for him.
Bros fluent in yapanise 💀💀💀💀
Excuses. Every time Checo is close to Verstappen there is an excuse. Stop glazing Verstappen all the time, Perez drove extremely well today.
@@BayernSupremacy_
So, in your world, making an analysis is making excuses?
I'm stating what i'm stating because i think it's fun to share hindsight and having technical discussions with other fans, it's also a way for myself to make a prediction, Verstappen is going to destroy Pérez once again this season (he's already doing it anyway) after he found the right set up, that's it.
Verstappen has an early turn in and likes a pointy car, every knowledgeable fans are aware of this, while Chéco prefer understeer as it helps him balancing the rear on the car.
Just shows you the difference between a good driver and a great driver.
@@ibrahimalatrash8008
What was wrong with my comment?
I am getting sick of Max not even throwing together perfect laps and getting pole. He's the best driver on the grid right now absolutely, but he also by far has the best machine and it's getting boring
In all fairness even in 2022 and 2023 Leclerc wasn't doing perfect laps either and got a lot of poles. It isn't easy to do a perfect lap with the ground effect cars.
He's throwing together better laps than the rest of the grid and the car isn't that much faster, if it was Perez would be p2 every race instead of a midfield driver
It could be very interesting a Verstappen 2024 vs Vettel 2019 Suzuka laps