Nice feathering, and cool rock patches. I like 'em. :) Nice call on brushing off the flock to thin areas. I did wince just a tad when I saw the wire brush come out though. ;) Brave man...
Simple techniques that anyone can do. I like how you give options with thinning out the flock. The wire brush was a surprise to see in the video. Thanks for sharing.
Another great tutorial. From here I spread taller flocks in patches using a brush to spread them out. When I am happy I drown them in hair spray then I glue down tiny bushes with scenic glue. When I am finished I seal it down with a heavy coat of flat clear. On pieces that I want to come back to the base for roads and pathways I use extra strength hair spray applying it until the surface is very wet then apply the flock. Then all I need do is use a wet brush to dissolve the hair spray and a dry brush to remove the flock and sealed with flat clear. The only issue people might have is that the colours darken when sprayed with clear. I must give credit to the second method who spilled his water bottle on my gaming board.
Which is the way to go. It would be far easier to learn how to layer your flock and foliage in height on a flat piece first. I have seem too many vids that try to show to whole lot in one video that they end up glossing over so much it becomes a video of watch me build something cool. That's what I like about your style of one technique done really well. On another matter of melting foam. Once it gets to that putty like state it will not conform to a silicon mold. So I will try again later and try pouring it when it is in a more liquid state. Cheers mate and keep them coming.
I like the use of different kinds of flocking. At that point, you can make your terrain look realistic at a high grade. :) Very nice! And the rocks look very good, too!
I'm really enjoying these videos and thanks for taking time to do them. When I see some terrain videos I think that the end result is not that good. Then there are others why I can't quite work out how the end result was achieved. Your videos though a great to follow, produce a great result and I believe that I can achieve a similar result following your guide. Thanks TT Al
As simple as it is brilliant. I actually just started to use flock on terrain so this video was very good timing. Mostly used static gras and tufts before as I thought it would be more realistic (Yeah bad thinking, I got that now^^). I always looked at flock and thought "Oh this looks so monotonous and boring, I'll never use that". Your videos helped my discover my love for flock though as you can truly achieve really really nice looking effects with it :)
TheTerrainTutor Yeah I know that, but I started this hobby ehm...maybe 3 or 4 years ago and I immediatly went for the static gras. I always associated flock with that green granule you sometimes see on very early Warhammer Fantasy or 40k bases so I never really paid attention to it :D
Thanks Mel, another good one for the beginners... would never had thought of brushing flock off. I never understood why you base coated with brownish paint but guess what, it adds up now !!!!. when you get time (i know thats a hard one), could you something on dirt roads (real basic stuff). Mine just look crap !!!
Your stuff is fantastic. Thank you for making these videos. I see a number of people dousing the flock with watered down PVA glue after applying it. You didn’t do that in this video. Is that necessary? I will be using it for Flames of War. Also, did you use watered down PVA glue here? I have seen you use watered down PVA glue in another one of your videos (the Normandy terrain).
Loving your tutorials as ever Mel. Looking at this in conjunction with your filler covered gaming board. What would be the best way of covering a 6x4 table? Using flock seems very expensive and im not sure your technique here would work as well.
Would this work for basing your miniatures or should I used a different technique loving the videos just can’t stop watching them Also wandering do you ever do sci-fi terrain I’m looking at starting to collect Star Wars legions
Excellent video there Mel! I'm gathering up stuff to have a go at this terrain malarkey and if it leads to the divorce courts (I'm getting some REALLY odd looks), you'll be responsible mate. :)
I know that this is supposed to be about flocking but I have to say that I really liked the contrast between the nice brown and the rocks. Really like the rocks...is there a tutorial for them? If no, I'd be interested in one :-) Also, I didn't get a link for the feedback&requests vid. Ah, nevermind...found it on Google+
Comparing this with the lacquor and other products alternative to PVA, wouldn't it be preferable for these techniques that flock comes off easier? Or creating a formula where the flock comes off easier so the dirt patches are easier to "sculpt" if you will? Or is it neccesary that they are absolutely rock solid? If you have no access to steel brushes, would steel sponges work? I have steel scrubs that I use for other weathering projects and it creates this really nice tearing texture that I got it noted down in my idea journal for using it to simulate things like rust cracks over metal surfaces and the like, especially in a particular direction if it's a bunker under frequent, say, tyranid assault or some other animals that leaves huge clawmarks.
Alderick van Klaveren This is just the basic technique mate, you can thin areas of the pva basecoat with water to aid removal. The highlighting really needs them to be solid but anything abrasive enough scratch the glue will work. hope that helps mate
Hi...is it possible to combine these techniques with cheap grass mats? I'm just getting into terrain making (moving up from paper terrain!) and grass mats seem like a good beginners shortcut...cheers!
Thanks for your videos Mel, they are awesome! I have a question about flocking that I can't seem to find the answer anywhere: how much scatter would you need to cover a 6x4 gaming board. I'm thinking of getting some 3mm hardboard sheet and just gonna flock the lot. How many javis bags do you think you'd need to cover it in a similar way as done in this video? Cheers mate!
Hey Mel, what type of brown paint are you using for the base before you PVA it for flocking? I bought some Valspar brand "soil brown" FLAT paint and I brushed it on over black primer and it dried to a very nice rich color like you have. However when I tried to PVA it the glue just doesn't want to stick to it--it's FLAT paint so I'm confused. The PVA has no problem adhering to the flat black spray paint I used before.. but I want brown instead of black for the base so I can brush off grass here and there to make it realistic looking. Could I try mixing in some PVA glue with the brown paint? THat way the PVA glue has other PVA in the brown paint to adhere to? Thanks, Jennifer
Jennifer Gwinn I use dark brown house paint, specifically a £1 tester pot of Java Bean interior emulsion from Wilkinsons. You shouldn't need to mix pva into the paint but it can't harm it :-)
Hello im new to all this, also new to watching your videos, my question is after ive tried several diff ways, what is your thoughts on useing ground leaves as flock? Would acylic paint stick to it? Also i hear the term pva glue all the time is that the same as elmers glue?
I liked the wire brush effect, you could use it to highlight an area that has been heavily traveled.
Nice feathering, and cool rock patches. I like 'em. :)
Nice call on brushing off the flock to thin areas. I did wince just a tad when I saw the wire brush come out though. ;) Brave man...
***** Cheers matey. You know me, always abusing my terrain! :-)
Simple techniques that anyone can do. I like how you give options with thinning out the flock. The wire brush was a surprise to see in the video. Thanks for sharing.
Stronghold Crafter Kev The simple ones are always the best matey :-)
Another great tutorial. From here I spread taller flocks in patches using a brush to spread them out. When I am happy I drown them in hair spray then I glue down tiny bushes with scenic glue. When I am finished I seal it down with a heavy coat of flat clear. On pieces that I want to come back to the base for roads and pathways I use extra strength hair spray applying it until the surface is very wet then apply the flock. Then all I need do is use a wet brush to dissolve the hair spray and a dry brush to remove the flock and sealed with flat clear. The only issue people might have is that the colours darken when sprayed with clear. I must give credit to the second method who spilled his water bottle on my gaming board.
James Evans Keeping it simple with this one mate :-)
Which is the way to go. It would be far easier to learn how to layer your flock and foliage in height on a flat piece first. I have seem too many vids that try to show to whole lot in one video that they end up glossing over so much it becomes a video of watch me build something cool. That's what I like about your style of one technique done really well. On another matter of melting foam. Once it gets to that putty like state it will not conform to a silicon mold. So I will try again later and try pouring it when it is in a more liquid state. Cheers mate and keep them coming.
your the man bud. i learned so much from you for the past year or so. thank you for all you do.
Glad my vids help buddy
I like the use of different kinds of flocking. At that point, you can make your terrain look realistic at a high grade. :) Very nice! And the rocks look very good, too!
***** Cheers buddy, not bad for two shades hey :-)
Very good! :)
Thanx Mel, I never thought to base coat with brown and then go back and brush it. It does give more variety.
Bill D. in Iowa It also means any flock that's lost over time just looks like dirt patches rather than green undercoat mate ;-)
Great looking simple hill. I like how you progressed on this video. Thank you!
Perkins Dearborn Cheers matey :-)
This is one of the best "likes to dislike" ration I've ever seen on a YT video.
That's an awesome technique, definitely looks so realistic, think I've been up that hill myself.
SnailMasterWargaming LOL, cheers matey :-)
Hi could you tell me how to seal the sawdust flock when it's all finished please 😊 much appreciated, kelly
So simple and easy. Thanks!
Mini Terrain Domain cheers mate
nice done, good tips.
Brabo Painter Alias Alexander Zijlmans Thanks mate
Very useful video, thanks. Why not just use patches of PVA so the ground shows through after flocking, rather than taking off the flock later?
I'm really enjoying these videos and thanks for taking time to do them.
When I see some terrain videos I think that the end result is not that good. Then there are others why I can't quite work out how the end result was achieved. Your videos though a great to follow, produce a great result and I believe that I can achieve a similar result following your guide.
Thanks TT
Al
+Al Wood That's the aim mate, glad it's helping ;-)
As simple as it is brilliant. I actually just started to use flock on terrain so this video was very good timing. Mostly used static gras and tufts before as I thought it would be more realistic (Yeah bad thinking, I got that now^^). I always looked at flock and thought "Oh this looks so monotonous and boring, I'll never use that". Your videos helped my discover my love for flock though as you can truly achieve really really nice looking effects with it :)
Marius Gaede oh mate, flock was around a long time before static grass ;-)
TheTerrainTutor Yeah I know that, but I started this hobby ehm...maybe 3 or 4 years ago and I immediatly went for the static gras. I always associated flock with that green granule you sometimes see on very early Warhammer Fantasy or 40k bases so I never really paid attention to it :D
Marius Gaede
Well it's a whole new medium for you to explore then mate ;-)
Thanks Mel, another good one for the beginners... would never had thought of brushing flock off. I never understood why you base coated with brownish paint but guess what, it adds up now !!!!.
when you get time (i know thats a hard one), could you something on dirt roads (real basic stuff). Mine just look crap !!!
steve pelham Ah, there's method to my madness matey. Roads are on the list!
Your stuff is fantastic. Thank you for making these videos.
I see a number of people dousing the flock with watered down PVA glue after applying it. You didn’t do that in this video. Is that necessary? I will be using it for Flames of War.
Also, did you use watered down PVA glue here? I have seen you use watered down PVA glue in another one of your videos (the Normandy terrain).
great stuff matey, never thought about the feathering idea makes them look awesome, thank you :)
Adaminski41 Cheers bud, the devil is in the detail they say ;-)
Great stuff man!!! Glad i found your channel.
+Dunker79 Welcome aboard mate
Great job Mel. Looking forward to more of these videos. Many thanks mate.
jjab99 Thanks very much mate
Any chance you've done a tutorial on making realistic hills like this--the sort of rolling hills rather than the steep hills with the cliffs?
+Tom's AWI Review Check the hills playlist buddy
+TheTerrainTutor Sorry Mel, I posted this question before I found you on FB. =) Thanks for answering.
Tom's AWI Review I thought I'd seen it before bud, no worries :-D
Love the videos, great work mate!
Damian Robinson Thank you!
Simple and quick, I like it!
Leonardo Lee glad you do :-)
Loving your tutorials as ever Mel. Looking at this in conjunction with your filler covered gaming board. What would be the best way of covering a 6x4 table? Using flock seems very expensive and im not sure your technique here would work as well.
Lup3rcal you can cover a 6x4 with £12 of flock from Javis scenics mate, yeah, this will work with the filler covered boards mate ;-)
Great video! I really like your technique!
4irw4lk3r Thanks bud
Fantastic.
BioXlord Cheers
Would this work for basing your miniatures or should I used a different technique loving the videos just can’t stop watching them
Also wandering do you ever do sci-fi terrain I’m looking at starting to collect Star Wars legions
Sure it'll work for basing mate, I've just got into legion myself, so yep, it's coming
Great share, enjoyed the vid
***** Thanks matey :-)
Hi great tutorial!! Do you have a video on how to make the actual hill?
+gary cherrington Check the hills playlist bud ;-)
Did you seal the flocking before applying the feathering technique?
no mate
Cool. Thank you very much for the reply. This vid was very helpful!
Great vid dude some cool tips
Aceface Cheers buddy :-)
Nice job.
mark taylor Cheers mate
Excellent video there Mel! I'm gathering up stuff to have a go at this terrain malarkey and if it leads to the divorce courts (I'm getting some REALLY odd looks), you'll be responsible mate. :)
Warriorking1963 Just don't cite me in the papers mate ;-)
Thanks
Thank you!
Subtle but very effective.
Awesome tutorial as always =D
Eldrac Cheers bud
I know that this is supposed to be about flocking but I have to say that I really liked the contrast between the nice brown and the rocks. Really like the rocks...is there a tutorial for them? If no, I'd be interested in one :-)
Also, I didn't get a link for the feedback&requests vid. Ah, nevermind...found it on Google+
madlarkin101 It's my standard rock colours mate, check the cork bark hill tutorial I posted yesterday, that's got the process in ;-)
Comparing this with the lacquor and other products alternative to PVA, wouldn't it be preferable for these techniques that flock comes off easier? Or creating a formula where the flock comes off easier so the dirt patches are easier to "sculpt" if you will? Or is it neccesary that they are absolutely rock solid?
If you have no access to steel brushes, would steel sponges work? I have steel scrubs that I use for other weathering projects and it creates this really nice tearing texture that I got it noted down in my idea journal for using it to simulate things like rust cracks over metal surfaces and the like, especially in a particular direction if it's a bunker under frequent, say, tyranid assault or some other animals that leaves huge clawmarks.
Alderick van Klaveren This is just the basic technique mate, you can thin areas of the pva basecoat with water to aid removal. The highlighting really needs them to be solid but anything abrasive enough scratch the glue will work. hope that helps mate
Hi...is it possible to combine these techniques with cheap grass mats? I'm just getting into terrain making (moving up from paper terrain!) and grass mats seem like a good beginners shortcut...cheers!
Talismancer M I don't know, I've never tried mate. If you give it a go, let me know how you get on :-)
aways the best, a thanks for Brasil
cheers buddy
What is a good underlair for a bigger lawn? Cardboard?
MDF / Plyboard
When the video first started and I saw the hill I thought you'd been using marmite :)
Lets not start another marmite conversation again!
***** Lmao, spoilsport :)
Spydah666 ***** Let's just not go there hey ;-)
LMAO sorry I just could not resist
what do you use for your bases on the terrain?
+Anthony Derpran either mdf for pvc foamboard
Where is the beginning? I never see how create a small rocks from XPS
Check my hills, rocks and cliffs playlist bud
Do you put a sealant over it once you're all done?
Thanks for your videos Mel, they are awesome! I have a question about flocking that I can't seem to find the answer anywhere: how much scatter would you need to cover a 6x4 gaming board. I'm thinking of getting some 3mm hardboard sheet and just gonna flock the lot. How many javis bags do you think you'd need to cover it in a similar way as done in this video? Cheers mate!
Watch this, all your answers are here .... czcams.com/video/uj1q1hK-9qk/video.html
Could you do a video naming the company of the flock and grass that you use please?
www.javis.co.uk
Hey Mel, what type of brown paint are you using for the base before you PVA it for flocking? I bought some Valspar brand "soil brown" FLAT paint and I brushed it on over black primer and it dried to a very nice rich color like you have. However when I tried to PVA it the glue just doesn't want to stick to it--it's FLAT paint so I'm confused. The PVA has no problem adhering to the flat black spray paint I used before.. but I want brown instead of black for the base so I can brush off grass here and there to make it realistic looking. Could I try mixing in some PVA glue with the brown paint? THat way the PVA glue has other PVA in the brown paint to adhere to? Thanks, Jennifer
Jennifer Gwinn I use dark brown house paint, specifically a £1 tester pot of Java Bean interior emulsion from Wilkinsons. You shouldn't need to mix pva into the paint but it can't harm it :-)
Hello im new to all this, also new to watching your videos, my question is after ive tried several diff ways, what is your thoughts on useing ground leaves as flock? Would acylic paint stick to it? Also i hear the term pva glue all the time is that the same as elmers glue?
Is there a video for how you made that hill?
+Logan Laberge Check the hills playlist buddy
hi you are awsome do more videos like this
Matija Debeljak Plenty more to come mate
Mel how did you do first layer of PVA? 100 percent PVA? Just school glue?
80/20 pva to water mate, just to help it spread, school grade pva
Do you have any Productlink for this Flock?
+JenK's PLAYSEA javis.co.uk/
+TheTerrainTutor Hi Mel, it's posible to make a tutorial for make some flock like the one you used in the video?
flocking
Great job, do you make your flock or buy it?
Benoit Vanderzippe I buy it mate, Javis Scenics premium range
ok, thnx for the info
Was this 50/50 mix Pva?
+Alex Duncan I think so mate
Flocking cool XD
Bretticus66 Isn't it ;-)
Can you talk a bit slower you are hard to follow