Gutted Plaid 1/4mile vs Stage 4 Porsche 911 Turbo S! 150MPH Nitrous Redeye!! 4 Races in 4K UHD!
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- January 7th, 2023 at Bradenton Motorsports Park “Street Heat”! (1/4 mile)
The Plaid is weight-reduced and running on the stock Pirelli P Zeros on 19” wheels. (Backseats and most rear material removed. Both front seats are still IN PLACE, along with all door panels, airbags, mirrors, 20 stereo speakers and subwoofer remain intact.)
VIDEO INDEX:
0:00 Intro
0:31 Street Heat at Bradenton Motorsports Park (1/4 mile)
1:06 Twin-Turbo Audi R8 V10
1:39 Mike’s 1000+HP Nitrous Redeye Challenger
2:22 Plaid vs 1000+HP Nitrous Redeye Challenger (Roll)
4:55 Timeslip #1
5:48 Nitrous Redeye Driver Mike
7:07 Stage 4 Porsche 911 Turbo S
9:14 Plaid vs Stage 4 911 Turbo S (Roll)
11:38 Timeslip #2
12:00 Porsche 911 Turbo S Driver John
13:43 Current Situation with our Brake Pads
15:13 NHRA ‘Street Legal’ Rules
16:12 Plaid vs 1000+HP Nitrous Redeye Challenger (Drag)
19:11 Timeslip #3
20:25 1000+HP Nitrous Redeye makes another run
21:50 Mustang 6.0L LS Turbo (previously posted Jan 10, 2023)
23:02 Plaid vs Turbo Mustang!
26:49 Time Slip #4
27:12 Mustang Driver Joe
31:30 Closing Comments
31:58 Tesla Service Center Tampa
33:13 Crash at BMP Event Entrance
34:41 More with Mike, talking Plaid Brakes
TIME SLIPS: (Started at 94% Battery SOC, ended at 81%)
Roll Races, 60ft MPH, 660ft MPH, 1320MPH, Result
1. 64.69, 125.39, 153.63, W vs Nitrous Redeye (150.93 MPH)
2. 58.44, 123.46, 151.73, W vs Stage 4 911 Turbo S (145.99 MPH)
Drag Races, ET, MPH, 60-ft, Reaction, Mode, Result
3. 9.23, 150.30, 1.46, 0.284 (Pro), Launch Mode*, W vs Nitrous Redeye
4. 9.308, 149.66, 1.51, 0.005!, **Launch Mode*, W vs Turbo Mustang
* = Did not get all the way to “Launch Mode Ready”
** = Peak Performance was NOT Ready
Thanks to Mike (Modified Nitrous Redeye), John (Porsche 911 Turbo S Stage 4), and Joe (Turbo Mustang) for these fun races!
Special Thanks to partners @LueTubeTv and @DragRacingandCarStuff for sharing trackside and grandstand footage!
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Special Thanks to partners @LueTubeTv and @Drag Racing and Car Stuff for sharing trackside and grandstand footage!
23:42 - one of the best races I’ve ever seen 🖖😎🍻
Cool. I got an sn95. Made me feel good. Haha
I own a 2022 Tesla S Plaid with the OEM 19" wheels/tires.
I have gotten interesting 60-130 Dragy test results with a cold battery/motors vs "warmed up"
90% SOC just starting out for the day after a couple min of driving, 60-130 mph is 5.4 sec.
83% SOC warmed up 4.6 sec 60-130
Both runs in Plaid mode. Results have been repeatable on other days as well.
The difference can clearly be felt in the SOTP as well, especially top-end acceleration.
Same road, day and location for testing. Flat surface and valid.
I do live in the north east so it gets pretty cold here and takes longer for the drivetrain to warm up.
Have you ever noticed this phenomenon and why it occurs?
Indeed, warmer is better for power output. We talk about that more often in wintertime, as even a Florida 60-degree night is slower than an 85-90 degree day. As for multiple back-to-back-passes, we've often found that our 4th or 5th pass on the 1/8th mile will be our fastest. This is covered in this video where we made a bunch of solo passes while trying to hit a 5.9x for the first time (when full weight and on stock Pirellis) czcams.com/video/Q1ipJXhM480/video.html
But note: We don't make (nor recommend) multiple back-to-back 1/4 mile passes as the brakes will get hot any time of year when hitting 150+MPH
Wow! The blue mustang surprised me! True sleeper. If he puts Nos on that it’s game over!
The blue 6.0 lbs mustang with the eBay turbo ONLY on 15lbs…….. ridiculous! What a car!
A great morning to wake up when there's a new upload on Tesla Plaid!
Fantastic work again. Never a dull moment on your channel!
Dammmnn that Mustang was Movin though! Look at the Turbo glowing red hot @24:17. Sick race.
Cool, I didnt notice it glowing red till you said. Woohoo cool
Is it actually a Mustang with an LS motor?
Note: The 4th race (only) was previously released early (10 days ago), but there is NEW content afterward at 31:58
That 00 reaction hole shot win was amazing for foot breaking Andrew! Nice work.
Great runs. Thanks as always for the shoutouts Andrew. It's always fun seeing my footage in your videos! Man, the consistency of the Plaid is almost unfair, lol.
Great fun as always! Reruns appreciated here!
That second race with the Challenger it fell on its face off the line .
great races!
Man that blue Mustang was fast.
It’s a darn good budget build!
Great vid Andrew, some cool cars to race with the Tesla. The additions of the clips from LueTube and Drag Racing and Car Stuff are always cool.
They are spectacular partners to have! When I’m not at the track for any reason, I’m watching @LueTubeTV livestreams. Like poolside in Hawaii last month! 🌴☀️
Great races Andrew! That last one was a nail-biter, but you won it on the tree.
Real pleasing to see some more 1320 runs! I've only drag raced at two 1/8th mile drag strips since 1977. I prefer 1/4 mile big time. Never did a roll race except on the street.
We enjoy both, although without a doubt 1/8th mile is safer. We make around 500 passes per year, and when we got hit at 115MPH last year, we were happy it wasn’t at 150MPH…
@@TeslaPlaidChannel I've made approx 1100+ passes and only once had a super scary moment when I did such a massive wheelie on my motorcycle right off the line I literally slipped off the back of the bike, was able to run behind it while still holding onto the handlebars, and then bring the bike 's front end down, jumped back on and continued down the track exiting at the first turn off. Luckily , it was a small light weight sport bike and not some 500 Lb + monster. Next time at the line the track official told me to stay on this time.😁
Hole shot that Rustang. LMAO 🤣
Nice Iron Maiden reference🤘🏾
“Hear the Rime of the Ancient Mariner!” 🎸🎤 🎸
@@TeslaPlaidChannel See his eye as he stops one of three...🎸🤘🏾
Andrew, 4 out of 4. It was a good night. Great hole shot on the turbo Mustang. Always fun to watch.
Thanks! We are searching out more legit 8-second cars and we just raced 3 of them this week. Video coming soon 👍
Sharp on the tree as always. Well done!
Haha so funny man, i raced that mustang as street heat in cool whip. And his last pass was against me. Just smokong me lol great video 👍👍
👍 Thanks Mike. I’ve got a couple other race nights to post before our race night edit will go live here. I watched yours last night, nice work!
@Tesla Plaid Channel appreciate ya man 👍👍
Andrew great videos - quick question do you find a difference in speed with the use of heat/AC unit going? What do you set the climate at for peak performance?
We’ve always raced with all accessories off to maximize the available electrons for forward thrust 👍 (yes, some are powered by the 12V battery but then the high voltage battery has to replenish it like an alternator would)
What about the Tesla OEM but service-installed carbon fiber rotors? Could you get those? What if Tesla started offering them as a factory option and then you installed them?
Technically those would be legal. But those Tesla carbon ceramics only fit over the 21” (aka “boat anchor”) wheels. They are consistently a tenth of a second slower, so there’s no way we are going to switch to those…
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Plus probably not worth $20,000 for what you use this Tesla for.
*The extinction of the dinosaurs* ⚡️ 🚗
Nah....just two categories.
@@andgate2000 yea winners and losers, history and the future, loud and slow vs silent and quick
@@andgate2000yeah winner and loser lol
Its interesting as for road racing AWD was banned in all the Race Series due to it being a unfair advantage. Hurley Haywood could simply choose his line and not ever hit the apex and still won every race before the Banning. Drag racing the advantage is so obvious, but it does add weight on ICE cars but on a tesla it just adds HP as you add motors for front and rear.
Rotors and pads for my Prius $100 JS
Great content - is there any regen braking or just discs?
There’s very, very little regen at 150MPH. Seems like it doesn’t even apply regen until under 100MPH, from what can be felt in deceleration.
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I thought they have new brake pads and breaks for the new plaids. Can you use those and being compliant?
Only stock OEM production parts from Tesla are allowed, but Tesla’s “announced” carbon ceramic brake kit will only fit over the heavy and slower 21” wheels (if they ever deliver this kit). We would never trade to those boat anchor 21” wheels, as our first 73 Plaid passes on them proved how inferior they are for drag racing 👍
Can you use Plaid mode to warm the battery and then turn it off before the roll race?
Drag Strip mode warms the battery, and it seems as if something about the higher output at the beginning of the run takes away from the top end. We’ve tried it multiple ways, and for highest trap speed, it’s best to not just go with Plaid. (Maybe in colder weather, like below 50, some warmup would be a benefit for roll racing)
Have you ever run at 40-60%. Seems like on my car I get more miles per percent when in the 40-60 range and I wondered if that could be the same for drag racing.
We raced at 40% once and the car ran 9.61, or about 3 tenths slower (comparing full weight for both). Yet as for “range”, it’s still right around 3% per 1/4 mile run (a decimal place would be nice, but not shown).
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Could be a software thing. My guess is they turn off Peek Performance Mode at a specific percent. I would be interesting to hack it to stay on and the do runs.
Run What Ya Brung! Includung your Brakes!
Dragstrip mode should have stronger regen to save brakes and get more energy back into the battery.
That’s a great idea 👍. Hope they add that in a future OTA update
Do you suppose the brake pad wear is due to not using regen at the strip? Wouldn't it be nice if drag strip mode reinstated regen after the traps?
We have regen set to the highest level. But above a certain speed, it doesn’t do much. It actually does the same amount of regen in Drag Strip mode as any other mode. I feel it fine at the end of the track (below 50). But at 150MPH? Nope.
@@TeslaPlaidChannel huh. Maybe I'm thinking of track mode. I thought it turned regen off for racing.
@@jamesengland7461 That sounds right, although I don’t use track mode for drag racing (other than a couple of test passes last year)
Lol probably more to do with stopping at 150 mph. 😂
No surprise Tesla is not releasing the Plaid+ for now. There's not even competition for the normal Plaid.
What a race with that turbo Mustang! Great job! Seemed like Mike wanted to "cry" a little about you taking left lane and him having the 3-2 downshift occur but he could have easily put the car in 2 and then just banged the shifter over to D once he got going. Did that all the time in my Challenger SRT. Oh, and 420 runs on the pads? Seems like Elon planned that one! 😉
Ha! The 420 thing slipped my mind! But Mike and I have been racing each other for years now (since 2019) and he’s a straight shooter all the way 👍
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Yeah, I just wanted to give him a hard time. 😂
You can't increase your regenerative braking to help slow down?
👍 It's always set to the maximum on all of our Teslas. But at 150+MPH, it's of negligible effect.
@@TeslaPlaidChannel I see the future down the road with Model S Plaid 2024 or 2025 when set on track mode. Super regenerative braking 2 times more effective than it is currently.
Regarding the brake upgrade. If you bought Tesla’s upgraded brake package, would that be in violation of the NHRA stock class rules? It’s still OEM…
For those with the heavier (slower) 21” wheels, the NHRA may allow that since it’s an OEM-option. Very likely to be okay. But that brake upgrade does not fit inside the 19” wheels, so it won’t work for us. (And we aren’t going back to the 21” boat anchors)
@@TeslaPlaidChannel only a matter of time before they come out with some lightweight forged wheels to go with those big brakes. Fingers crossed.
Why didn't you get the factory carbon ceramic brakes?
Because they don’t fit inside 19” wheels. And as we’ve shown dozens of times here on the Channel, the 21” wheels are slow and heavy boat anchors, and even aftermarket 21”s would suck because there aren’t any decent tires that work with them (and no sidewall for the required 28” OD)
@@TeslaPlaidChannel oh ok. Makes sense.
At my track, the serious cars never have R/T over .1 NEVER. Usually .010 ish.
A trans brake and a delay box certainly help 👍 But we’ve had our share of foot-braked 0.00s, including against the rail dragster and the Nitrous Nova this year. And when we hit 0.000 a couple years ago, the track paid us $50 😃
It is strange that a racing league will not allow racing parts. I could be wrong but I thought safety parts made specifically for racing were more safe.
Yes, but it could be installed wrong and end up more dangerous.
Indeed... yet probably because they trust the "known" and OEM-tested equipment more than the "unknown" aftermarket parts. Like the guy who crashed his Plaid when he boiled the brake fluid at over 150MPH after swapping the pads and rotors but not the fluid. (And his wisdom was further demonstrated by not wearing any safety equipment.)
@@will.dornon OEM parts can be bought and installed incorrectly as well.
No one's going to be checking your brake pads!
@@jakeringer3153 We don’t believe any of these comments are talking about replacing “just pads”. They are most likely referring to aftermarket carbon ceramics sets, with larger rotors, or the announced Tesla set that only fits over 21” wheels (aka “boat anchor” wheels)
Great video again! Waiting on FINALLY seeing you race a Lucid Saphire. There is a video out there with a Plaid, Saphire, and Bugatti racing with a Plaid coming in third. Like to see if that is BS or what. If so do you think that Plaid PLUS option can be far away?
Saw the same video sapphire an amazing car ,sorry Tesla .
@@rosemarywalker7652 Tesla Roadster has entered the chat.
@@cyumadbrosummit3534 waiting for the roadster .looks amazing,lighter and faster is my hope. Elon get off your ugly ass and release the roadster damn it.
@@cyumadbrosummit3534 teslas r awesome I don't sell them short one guy says his sponsor won't let him race Andrew (teslas). I wonder why.
So andrew,u cant even put non Tesla pads on your plaid?
The brake pads themselves might not be noticed during a tech inspection. If there was a good aftermarket set that was well-rated in reviews, I’d consider them…
Only reason I ask,is for that price ,I'm guessing you can get way better pads..them the Tesla oem..
👍👍👍
Two questions
1) are you planning to get a roadster 2 if it ever comes
2)have you seen the fan car (check carwow if not) would be interested in your veiws on it as the guy doing the runs clearly was not a drag racers
1) The new Roadster is very appealing to me, but not at $250K, and maybe not even at $200K. Yes, it's a raging bargain compared to exotics that can't nearly match its specs, but my pain threshold is $150-175K.
2) Haven't seen it, but it's unfortunate that so many "noobs" make videos with the Plaid. There was a guy at our local dragstrip last week trying to run with no helmet and a passenger, so he could make his stupid TikTok clip or whatever. Those guys are an embarrassment to the both the Tesla community and the Drag Racing community, and their ignorance is unwatchable to me...
@@TeslaPlaidChannel check it out it's a one seat electric car that can run sub 9 second quarters I will not say how sub so as not to spoil the surprise, the guy can drive but is not drag racer.
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Welcome to the "next generation." Everything tik tok and social media. Technology has destroyed our kids, they have 0 self control.
Couldn't you use the Tesla carbon fiber ceramic brakes? I thought those were available as original equipment? There might be cheaper aftermarket carbon fiber ceramic options, but the Tesla ones should be legal.
On the other hand, if it's not stopping power that you're worried about but ease of finding replacement parts (pads and rotors), then ANYTHING aftermarket would be better...
The Tesla carbon ceramics only fit over the 21” (aka “boat anchor”) wheels. They are consistently a tenth of a second slower, so there’s no way we are going to switch to those…
What is your best 1/8 time ever?
5.93 at 122.00 (our best 1/4 mile is 9.15 at 152.00)
@@TeslaPlaidChannel That should be in the 9.10s for sure. You think a low 5.80 gets you the 8's?
With a bit less weight (front passenger seat, 20 speakers and dashboard) a 5.80 in the 1/8th (0.13 than our best so far) will surely be in the high 8s (just 0.16 than our best so far). But removing that front seat (that has an airbag) would affect safety equipment and make us illegal to NHRA regulations.
@@TeslaPlaidChannel You think it is possible to get a 1.39 60 ft?
@@rolltide9547 Sure, with weight reduction. But it would make the car illegal for the NHRA “Street Legal” rules.
So the Plaid's brake pads will last 450 semi-panic stops from speeds between 120 mph and 153 mph (let's just say an average of roughly 136 mph). Is that good or bad? Hmm, I'm curious as to how many similar panic stops the brake pads of a heavy ICE, like a Hellcat or Demon, would last.
Good question 👍 I can offer that we made over 1000 dragstrip runs in our 2019 Model S Performance (mid-10s at 125) and those original brake pads are still going strong as our daily driver…
That turbo mustang is actually amazingly fast for an ice car
You mean that Mustang with a GM motor?
Why not try wider tires for the traction (grip) it should help your track times.
👍 We’ve run Nitto tires dozens of times on this Channel, see many of the videos from 2021 and 2022.
They also add weight and rolling resistance, causing slower trap speeds and higher ETs (versus the stock 19”s and a perfectly prepped track). This 1/4 mile dragstrip has phenomenal prep. Every night cars are breaking driveshafts and shearing off their lug bolts because of how great the traction is. Wider tires only slow a Plaid down here. (As seen by the guys who can’t break under 9.40, or sometimes even 9.50, in their 21”-wheel Plaids)
That being said, what's the ideal tire for the Plaid to run on any surface? I'd say a 275/45R18 Mickey Thompson drag radial. But the problem is that the brake hardware needs to be modified to fit an 18" wheel. (And they don't make any suitable drag radial for a 19" wheel or larger.). But this *narrower* 275mm tire is all that's needed, as these tires can do 8's all day in the 1/4 mile, even 7's on a prepped track, on a RWD car.
A tires width is not in the formula for grip. It weight per sq inch..and compound. And the tesla is heavy witch helps.
@@andgate2000 'contact tire patch' doesn't play into grip? Then why all the Mickey Thompsons at the drag?
@@TeslaPlaidChannel I've staggered 265's front and 275's on the M3P to hold up on the corners, because of the weight- but never clocked it at the strip
Geez, Andy and his silent, swift daily driver smoking big, bad, loud, nasty pollution mobiles that has to be carried to that track. Imagine if tesla engineers wanted to build a really fast car, that’d be scary😳.
The passive aggressive tone is noted. Are you even a car fan or just happy that EVs can beat what you've despised your entire life?
Why don’t you take off your mirrors on the side of the car and see how fast you can go?
Negligible difference, yet would affect safety. As we’ll see in our next video, when the competitor crosses the center line alongside us, it helps to be able to see them and react 😳
The plaid took a $21,000 price decrease over night which will set a lot of us plaid owners back getting a new car in the future. Im thinking of starting a petition to ask Tesla to unlock a performance download or $20k in supercharging (for free) to make up for the massive depreciation. Please respond- what do you think?
We see cars as deprecating assets, to the point where if we aren’t willing to lose 100%, then it’s not a worthwhile purchase. Maybe we are in the minority on that, but that mindset started with our first 3 Camaros that would start as ~$2000 cars when we got ’em (used) and usually ended as spare parts by the time we were finished. Didn’t sell one for any amount of money. Sure, many of our cars over the years have done well, and we’ve sold 4 Teslas now (one at a profit, one for exactly what we paid out the door, one for 0.10/mile depreciation, and one to a family member). If it wasn’t a good deal when buying, then why buy it? If it was a good deal, then just like the stock market, it will fluctuate. We are at peace with our decision to buy it. Should we owe Tesla anything when the used prices shot up and we could make a profit? Of course not! So why should they owe us anything? And companies trading on Wall Street certainly aren’t offering anything (not even free supercharging miles) to those who saw portfolios decline. Tesla owes us nothing other than what was in the contract, including our warranty.
In roll racing it's the car that croses the line first.
Lots of street cars are trailered to big events.
You know, ICE engines create heat when driving . LOL
Watch the livestream of this event and you will learn that the FASTER MPH WINS, even if they cross second in the Roll Racing at “Street Heat”. If your event is different, that doesn’t mean that all roll racing events are the same
Andrew proves yet again it's the Indian not the arrow especially on the tree.
"Stage 4", lol. It sounds stage 3 at the most. No-way a Turbo S that is stage 4 would not roll over 150. I have seen some stage 3 plus turbo S's run over 150 in roll races.
that redeye has NEVER seen an 8.9 anything! hes talking out of his ass! for the weight, he’d have to be pushing closer to 1200 to 1300 horspower to get to the 8’s. 4500 pounds AND rearwheel drive… im callin bs!
Incorrect. Watch Mike’s Redeye run a 9.03 on Thursday’s livestream (it dyno’d over 1000HP before he added that Nitrous, and the trap speed is fairly consistent around 150MPH, even on this 9.03 run): czcams.com/video/OWdc7CUQCq8/video.html
Over 800 bucks on brakepads? Tesla is becomming a stealership.
Surely all 4 corners would be less on a Toyota, but can't imagine any Porsche (or BMW M, MB AMG, or Audi R) would be less including labor
Wonder what they're worth for that Porsche? 😉
LOL a street Pro Strip car, yep brakes for a daily driven can be expensive. Brakes and rotors.
Great video sir. But I believe that Tesla is missing a good detailing 🫡🤩
Whether it needs it or not, we still wash our Plaid every 6 months 👍 (Getting detailed this week actually)