⁴ᴷ⁶⁰ New Prototype R211Ts Curve Testing!
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- čas přidán 22. 12. 2022
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Here we see the first cars of the special R211T open-gangway train being tested at East NY Yard. These cars pilot an open, flexible passageway between cars in an effort to increase capacity, improve safety, and decrease asymmetrical car loading. These tests are intended to ensure that the wheelsets and open gangways are able to navigate the tightest simple and reverse curves. Enjoy this technical look at a very interesting test!
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I thought that the gamgways originally looked too long between cars. Epically as I'm used to the shorter gangways on the s7 and s8 stock in London. After seeing this I'll hold my hands up and say I was wrong, it looks like the work perfectly for the sharp curves on the subway.
The engineers know more than us
The other difference is that the gangways that cover the outer edges of the railcar are better suitable for sharp curves than ones that are in the middle just covering the door bay.
Tf?????
Agreed, I keep thinking they look awkward compared to other trains but now I see why they need to be like that.
Main reason for that has to be difference between railcar length. This is also the reason why historic town hall station was closed, amr?
I have high hopes that these trains will do well. It’s about time for something to walk through once again after the D-types were retired.
@Bread And Circuses no
I dont even know what is a d type
@@KawasakiR211S The D-Type,[1] commonly known as the Triplex, was a New York City Subway car class built by Pressed Steel Car Company. They were operated by the Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit Corporation (BMT) and its successors, which included the New York City Board of Transportation and the New York City Transit Authority (NYCTA). The fleet consisted of 121 cars, each arranged as three-section articulated units. Four units were built as a prototype in 1925,[2] and the production units were built during 1927 and 1928.
The D-types were the first articulated rapid transit rolling stock used in the United States, and were followed by several more articulated trains until the BMT sold all of its transit operations to the City on June 1, 1940. First placed into service in 1925, they operated primarily on the BMT's Southern Division, although they would also appear on many other parts of the subway system. The R27s, R30s, and R32s slowly replaced the triplex cars, which last ran on July 23, 1965. Three sets and a section were preserved, and the rest were scrapped.
I just hope there not bombarded with those electronic ads
Nice to see these testing on the “J”, “M”, and “Z” Lines. The Broadway-Brooklyn line tends to have many curves.
The Z train don't exist, pal!
Z=Useless. Is there any other line, excluding the shuttles, that are useless?
especially when entering myrtle av broadway and in queens
Major curves like cyprus hills, Broadway junction , Marcy av
@@discontinued2209 Crescent Street
A Race between the R179 (C) Train and the R211A/T (A) Train. Now that’s the race of the future. Hearing their motors start up in the same time man, I bet it’ll sound “futuristic”
the c train is always gonna win lols
@@thelifeoft_roy you do have a point there but Both R179 and R211A/T have a good acceleration so both are decent.
Or, I was thinking we might see R211A (C) train racing R211A (A) train!!!!
@@KingofGamingAndTrains456 Even better! Now that I hope the (C) Train finally goes back to having 10-Car trains
@@AceTNYC_722 I heard that the C line might continue using different length trains (480-foot R179 consists and 600-foot R211 consists). So yeah, some (C) trains will be 10 cars long in the future!
This video gets me very excited about the R211T. The more I see it in action, the more I believe that these trains will do great here in NYC. Here’s hoping it continues to test well along the B Division!
I can’t wait for the very first graffiti design on them!
@@Bassotronics i hope you don’t get what you want. If anyone tries to do all that, I hope they become one with the 3rd Rail. That will be “hot”!
@@glamslamcam
Lol! I was being sarcastic. I hate graffiti damaging those trains but yes… whoever does it should get electrocuted.
@@Bassotronics ohhhhh well you got me good. Lol I’m glad we’re on the same page
Cant wait to see these trains in service!!!!!
Me too
We all do, though for full term needs, this will probably wait until Option 2 of 437 cars is produced.
@@TheRailLeaguer Are you talking about the R211s on the Eastern division? I already know that the 4-car sets in the 2nd option order would be for the J, M and Z lines.
@@KingofGamingAndTrains456 I’m talking about the R211s in general.
When do they start officially going in passenger service?
I really appreciate all of the commentary and explanations! Lots of information I had not previously known.
Damnn that curve was super tight😮
I was worried the train and gangways would rip apart
With all the flexing going on, give it some time. They will rip after a few years.
@@Bassotronics Don’t worry, that’s what maintenance is for! (Hopefully)
@@Bassotronics They are designed for the NYCT, they're strong.
@@iitrapezoid_8243
I was being a bit sarcastic but good to know.
Amazing video! Thanks for sharing this epic footage of the R211T testing the Gangways on sharp curves. Interesting but important tests for the longevity of the train cars!
I'm glad to see the MTA propelling the Subway into the future...
It's a lot of work managing a mostly 100 year old Subway/Metro system that's huge!
Come on Spring 2023, let the R211 trains be open! : ) We all can't wait.
We gonna definitely have more R211AS/TS coming one by one next year if God spare our lifes .
@@leecornwell5632 I hope. : 0
They should put it on the R line between City Hall and Courtlandt. That'll really test the curve on'em.
For sure!
Well done DJ. The curve is been successful at the Atlantic Cut!
Nice to see on ENY yard on R211T
This is so awesome, this was my dream to see subway cars like this 7 years ago. It came true :)
It also came true to me the huge lettered signs they brought back again replacing the dumb teeny tiny red led roll sign.
It's crazy to think about filming from the first car and watching all the curves just from trying to film to the back of the train. Can't wait to see the videos
It was about damn time NYC Subway got these, welcome to the new era of rapid transit !
i was just saying we need faster trains…cuz it is pathetic how overseas they’ve got trains that are Far FAR faster then or fastest trains here!!
Nice to see the R211T handling this specific test better than the R211A.
Nice can't wait to see them in service
So cool to [finally] see in action
She sounds good. Her and her oldest triplet sister.
Salute To These Train Employees Testing The R211.
their salary is gonna be massive
For moving a train?
Why can't NYC renovate its subway stations !!!! Its almost 2023
Glad to see they pass the first test
Those lights on the front are bright like the 🌞.
Always like your videos thanks
Amazing footage 👍🏽
Awesome !!!!!! cant wait to see more of them 😊
Great video thanks for sharing
R211T will be the future of MTA
Excellent idea, man!
The places on the B division that might cause problems for the R-211T are the curve between Cortlandt St and City Hall and the S/B switch from F1 to F3 N/O Pacific ST (Barclay Ctr).
They might be taking the train there as well because any train that’s going into service shouldn’t have any issues on any curves. Otherwise it would be a design flaw.
they’ll most likely test there next
Awesome vid…thank you much!!!🔥🔥🔥🥃🥃🥃
Testing is the only way to verify the worthiness of new cars. And make neccesssry fixes before entering revenue service.. Thanks DJ Hammers😀💚🎄
Thanks😀
Notice the BLUE painters tape at the bottom corners of each car to show any rubbing or scrapes that may occur
The new train looks awesome
That zigzag curve is strange for sure! Would love to see the inside of the gangway and the floor plates where the cars connect in this situation 🤔
DOPE FOOTAGE 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I wonder how it feel being in the gangway on that curve
Very cool if you belong to a gang.
@@Bassotronics ?
@@ItsDuckToYou
Gang.. Gangway.. ba-dum-tsss. 🥁
The ride is pretty smooth
Beautiful train
I thought the tightest curve was at the back in Jamaica Yard, where 30 Tk. meets the loop track. That's incredibly tight. If it's not the tightest it's right up there.
I’ll have to check that out.
Remember that what may not be that tight for the 3 door trains can be tight for the 4 door trains.
@@Bassotronics On the IRT, I don't know for sure, but Chambers to Park Place on the 2 and 3 is crazy-tight, as is the northbound S-curve leading to 149th Grand Concourse used by the 5. The southbound I don't think is quite as tight as northbound. But on the B Division I recall being told that that the sharpest curves were in the back of Jamaica Yard followed by the ENY leads. Whether it's true I can't say, but that's what I was told by someone in the know. Honestly I'd love to find the definitive answer to that to put in my book!
@@W2IRT
I’ll have to check Google maps for that. Sadly can’t check underground curves with it.
The R211’s looks like the old R40S’s with the “EXP”and “LOCAL” indicator lights
not just that, look at the black numbers on the sides
Interesting tests, it looksl ike it was a success.
Wish someone would film the interior of the subway while it's on a curve so you could see the snake effect in action
I just noticed how this stock seems to have less windows. As a Londoner in that way it reminds me of the new tube for London
Not less windows, the side ones are just narrower. As for the between car faces, they've been replaced with the gangways.
Amazing. Evolution apparently stoped in the NY Metro considering these tin cans look exactly like the 50 year old ones. These gangways are a great exception.
Evolution has stopped pretty much everywhere in the US somehow.
Staten island railway will be running on 5 cars with those models!
Watch them go around Union Station in Toronto from King Station to St. Andrew and in the opposite direction
whats the difference btwn curves and reverse curves? btw love the content keep it up!
Reverse curves go one way, then immediately goes the other way
Reverse curve is another name for an S curve
I can't wait is on service!
R211! Please in survive!
One downside of open gangway subway trains is that, if a train has a technical problem, workers must remove the entire six-car train from service, instead of separating a pair of cars and replacing them.
Technically that’s literally ALL of the trains right now, and even then in the present they are already taking whole trains out of service.
Finally NYC will have them too
was you the person we seen at east new york yard watching it do the worse case scenario testing>
Is he in trouble? 🤪
1:52 So the R211T has built in lights underneath the train cars?
Yes. Rumor has it the Motorman left them on during the night time transfer for the fans. 😉
Damn you got fully accessible trains only now? Over here in Germany that has been standard for around 25 years. And yes, we do have a few very tight curves.
Yeah unfortunately NYC (and America in general) usually lags behind other countries on basically everything and there are other folks here needlessly wanting to maintain that for some reason.
Testing On The A, C, J, L, M and Z lines
I love the R211Ts!
same!
I Love R211T
So shiny and new.
It was sign as the J when it was at the yard.
Hell yeah baby R211T
VERY INTERRESTING !!!
WE HAVE NOT THIS TYPE OF VIDÉOS IN FRANCE !!!
BEST REGARDS OF FRANCE.
VERY HAPPY CHRISMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!
1:03 do the bogies have lights on them or is that the interior lighting?
There are lights on the underbody for maintenance purposes. You can see them clearly in the next scene
Do these new trains have regenerative braking? Because that would help keep stations cooler in the summer!
all of the NTTs do, even some SMEE's.
My one problem with these is I just wish they had some more color. To make them more friendly and vibrant. But hey this is some great stuff
Why are the front line letter/number screens flashing like strobe lights? Is that because they're screens with poor refresh rates that the camera is able to pick up happening?
I'm just a bit of a subway buff, nowhere to the level of you guys, but I enjoy your videos immensely. I just have to say though, " The curve is been successful at the Atlantic Cut!" sounds like a spy password 😛
BTW, what's the dif between a "simple" and "reverse" curve?
A simple curve goes one way, a reverse curve is another name for an 'S' turn
Show time gonna be crazy...
Again; wish we could see the inside moving!
Also, if the open gangway works, it's always possible they might see them as useful on the L and order some 4 Car sets. Nothing is et in stone at this point.
The last 437 cars in the 1612-car order include 32 cars set up in 4-car units.
There's a weird flickering effect on the text on screen that makes it harder to read. Would it be possible to just have plain white text?
I find it funny that people started queuing at the train doors even though "Not In Service" is displayed and more than one line runs in that tunnel and the train is empty.
cool video on the r211t on the l line
The R211TS is not going to the 1 line. Only the BMT and the IND lines. The R262/AS will be for the A devisin iRT lines.
The R262/AS will be on the 1 3 6 S lines for CBTCS real soon to replacing all the R62AS R62S on the 1 3 6 S lines. The R211A/TS is for the B decisions.
Are they gonna test it on the Canal Street curve?
I feel like these train videos should be recorded using a go pro 360
Any word on upgrading the tracks? They are incredibly noisy.
At 3:23 and 4:26 the train is displaying the (L) bullet... why isn't in set to NIS?
When will the R211Ts test again? It’s been a month
I wonder if this means that R160 will return to the N line... I miss those trains on the N line.
I'm gonna miss the R46s & SIR R44s once the R211s finally replace them...
It's difficult to read the texts in this video please consider changing the font color.
Seeing the R211T signed up as an L has got me foaming quite a bit. I would react the same way if an R160 Siemens were to run on the L or M one day, though that would be pretty unlikely given that all the R160 Siemens units are 5-car units.
It's also kinda unlikely we'll ever see an R211 run on the L either, given that the L already uses mostly R143's, with a select few R160's from East NY Yard. If anything, the R211's will most likely run on the A, B, C, F, G, N, R, and W lines. The R68/A's from the B and D will probably be sent to the C, Q, and Rockaway Park Shuttle lines for the time being.
The B and D might also receive some R160's from the G, and the N and W might get back some R160's from the F and R, at least just the Alstom Sets. The A and C will continue using R179's, with the C using a couple R68/A's. The Q will use mostly R68/A's.
The final 437 cars in the 1612-car order includes 32 cars in 4-car units, which could be potentially be on the J/Z, L, and M routes for expanded fleet needs.
The (E)(F)(G)(R) will NOT get R211s, but the (B) and (D) will
@@railfanner-MaxPlati Technically the E and F will get some of the R211s alongside the B and D. The E and F may get it at the tail end of the order to displace cars to the G route for expansion.
@@TheRailLeaguer Concourse is not getting R211s.
Actually I think the car assignments might be more straightforward. The option order R211’s will go to the B and D lines in order to make them 100% NTT for 6th Avenue CBTC. This displaces their R68 and R68A trains to the N, Q and W lines; I think any leftover option order R211s should also go to the N, Q and W. Of course, the four-car sets in the 2nd option order would be for the J and Z lines and possibly even the M.
From what I heard, the E, F, G and R lines do not need new trains so those lines would keep their R160s, and, as we all probably already know by now, the A and C lines will be receiving the 460 R211’s (440 R211A’s and 20 R211T’s) from the base order of 535 cars (this leaves the 75 R211S’s for the Staten Island Railway), but they would continue to use their R179s.
we've had these trains in Toronto for 10 years
Wow didnt know Canada had r211ts.
@@tropicalsimonthirty2283 Toronto does NOT have R-211Ts. Each transit system has their own system of classifying rolling stock so even if the cars happen to be identical in every way, they would not be called by the same nomenclature.
i think he means the rolling stock that have open gangways for the people who are confused.
@@randyo573 🤓🤓🤓
I wonder how many people will get curve surprise standing in the open gangways. Our trains have no curves anything like those of NYC but people get stuck in the concertina bellows of our trains all the time because they lean on the walls in a curve and it closes up on them. Its easy enough to pull yourself out but its always funny to watch.
I was just wondering about this myself. I’m curious about how the gangway floor works as well.
Remember when I was in Toronto, they had a couple like this czcams.com/video/e-Hya-cuqlw/video.html . i guess over time you get used to it
@@robby062 I haven't seen these but I expect a circle and sliding plates
How do you know where the trains are being tested?
Each R211 looks very different
Batch 1 are Non-Gangway
Batch 2 with Gangway
thats why they are different models, R211A and R211T
New here...what is the difference between the "T" and "A" cars?...thanks
The R211T's have open gangways between cars. The R211As have conventional end doors on each car.
When and at which line are these going to begin revenue service?
nice
Good keep these kids safe from surfing 🏄♂️
I would love to see the R262 on the 2 and 5 train line.
Not gonna happen till around 2028
Don't forget about the R262As close ways just like the R211As R211s . It's not gonna 100% R262 open gangways.
nice you have 69k subs
I doubt they'll be assigned for the A,C,J,L or Z lines. Should be assigned for other lines that don't have a sharp curve
The 5-car units could be assigned to any line except for the J/Z, L and M, though it’s possible that the open gangway trains could go to the A, C, E, or F routes.
After the R46s leave, the oldest ones will be the R68/As and R62/As
(L)ove the R211T.
Theoretical yard Assignments prediction
(A) and Rockaway Park Shuttle all 356 R46's displaced by 310 R211's from the Base order and the C gets 130 R211's from the Base order + 20 R211T Open Gangway Test Trains
-All 130 R179 cars (5 set config) going to the (C) (Both the A/C will share a fleet)
-All 92 R179 cars (4 set config) from 207th street Yard displaced to ENY Yard and having all C Trains operate with 10-car sets
(B/D) 405 R160's from Jamaica Yard Displaced to Concourse and 320 R160's displaced to Coney island Yard for B service along with 128 R211's for The (D) and 80 R211's going to the (B)
(E/F/G/R) The other 510 R160's would be going to Jamaica Yard primarily for F service though they can be used for E service. Jamaica Yard's R160's Reduced to 885 cars for the E, F, G (360 R160's for the R and 215 R160's for the G) With option order 2 the 32 4-car sets would go to the G while 405 cars go to the E, F and R with the E using 202.5 cars and the F using 101.25 cars while the R uses 67.5 cars
(J/Z/L/M) ENY Yard should keep using the same number of cars in their Rolling stock assignments But the J/Z will use 92 R179's displaced from 207th street yard
(N Q W) all R68/A's assigned to Coney Island Yard for N Q W Service
Franklin Aveune Shuttle 148 R68's
The Final Result
(A) & Rockaway park Shuttle 310 R211's
(C) 130 R211's, 130 R179's
(B) 320 R160's, 80 R211's
(D) 405 R160's, 128 R211's
(E) 255 R160's, 202.5 R211's
(F) 255 R160's, 101.25 R211's
(R) 360 R160's 67.5 R211's
(G) 215 R160's, 32 R211's
(J/Z) 92 R179's displaced from 207th street Yard and 56 R160's
(L) 212 R143's, 96 R160's
(M) 220 R160's
(N/W) 268 R68's
(Q) 80 R68's, 200 R68A's
Franklin Aveune Shuttle 148 R68's
Note: once the A/C get the R211's they should share a fleet since the C doesn't run during late nights the Rockaway park Shuttle Will use 35 R179's for the R211's to get maintenance time in also with this the A would also use R179's since both the A/C will share a fleet
If the test goes well for the R211T's then the MTA might order more R211T's. Since the R211T's are for the lines with the highest Ridership the R211T's will be assigned to Queens Boulevard since the E/F has a high ridership on Queens Boulevard both the E and F should receive R211T's
The R211T's would also be assigned to Pitkin and 207th street yard to Run on the A/C as well
good LORD those lights are bright in the dark, i guess that's how bright leds are
i'm guessing the cars passed the curve test?
WOW! They look so dated. Like something from the 1960’s with a little update. New rolling stock that’s expected to be around for a while should be a little more forward looking. External glazed ribbon windows that run through the doors would at least give it a 1990’s vibe
Well much of the design is based off that curved body design first seen on the R44 cars.
The station seen at the beginning of this video is where the Michael Jackson Bad music video was filmed.
I love these trains, hope they do well. I just wish the mta would upgrade the stations prior to getting these trains. The elevator plan is taking forever and a lot of the stations are still dilapidated.
Not ordering new train cars is not an option since part of the existing fleet is reaching retirement age.
There isn't going to be a full series of T series
4:58 scrape screechy turn
Wow
When will it come into service? 🤔