I'm DONE Sending Cards to PSA - Vintage Grade Reveal

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  • @BGDsportscards
    @BGDsportscards  Před 11 měsíci +2

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    • @mikesamen7472
      @mikesamen7472 Před 11 měsíci

      How much you paid to grade every card by psa. Because I’m a collector and I’m checking my cards now and I was thinking about sending my card to be graded, but I was worried about the same thing you were talking about

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 11 měsíci

      @@mikesamen7472 depends how you send them and how many you send. If you use a bulk submitter it's usually $18 to 25. If you send on your own with the psa collectors club it $18 per card unless there's a special

  • @michaelyoung7974
    @michaelyoung7974 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I applaud you. I haven't sent anything to PSA in years. Their consistency is nonexistent. Their standards are constantly shifting mumbo-jumbo. They screw small senders like us so that they can appear strict while handing out top grades to the biggest spenders.

  • @Brian-pf7qq
    @Brian-pf7qq Před 4 měsíci +13

    The president of PSA did a interview and said there no guidelines and consistently because the grade you get depends on who is grading it. So you could get a 5 on a card, crack it, send it in again and get a 7, depending on the individual grader who grades it. For me when the president of PSA says that, I would not send any cards to them.

    • @vintagesportscardfinds964
      @vintagesportscardfinds964 Před měsícem +1

      100 percent. And he did that in an interview on his own platform. I had to back up the video to make sure what I thought I heard is what I heard. And it was. He's a scam artist.

  • @masterkingk
    @masterkingk Před 4 měsíci +9

    imagine going to have your car inspected and the inspector says your car is in top notch condition and since your car is in top notch condition we have to charge you 10 times the original fee.

  • @spratt8958
    @spratt8958 Před 11 měsíci +40

    Also, PSA has been pop controlling vintage cards so don’t hold your breath on high grades for vintage if your an average submitter. A vintage 8 today would be a 10 years ago. Try sending your vintage to SGC.

  • @jeffguybersen
    @jeffguybersen Před 5 měsíci +7

    Their inconsistency is why the other grading companies have been able to succeed.

  • @brucemcdoniel3481
    @brucemcdoniel3481 Před 11 měsíci +14

    PSA is brutal on vintage. Their graders are trained on modern cards

  • @nyerc7508
    @nyerc7508 Před 11 měsíci +22

    Back around 2000 I came to the conclusion, that PSA was an "insiders game" for 'card doctors' and major dealers. Nothing has changed exceps that now it's all 'on steroids'!

    • @user-hm5zb1qn6g
      @user-hm5zb1qn6g Před 4 měsíci +1

      It was basically launched for/by insiders. First card was the Honus Wgner owned by convict Bruce McNall and degenerate gambler Gretzky. It was admittedly trimmed by PSA itself yet has never been re-slabbed.

  • @fartgod6983
    @fartgod6983 Před 11 měsíci +9

    Honestly started using SGC and haven’t regretted it.

  • @gatorbite6354
    @gatorbite6354 Před 11 měsíci +8

    same thing with me. they damaged a 73 nolan ryan or swapped it...i got a 2...why would i send in a card like that? they messed up the corner.

  • @jbscardshow
    @jbscardshow Před 11 měsíci +8

    Man I feel your pain. Had an absolute nightmare PSA return recently myself. Couple weeks later I got another return that was way better but the inconsistency that seems to be coming out of PSA is absolutely infuriating.

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 5 měsíci

      Even more infuriating when their own CEO admitted in a recent video that grades can "sometimes depend on which grader you get". The standard for each grade should be the same regardless of who the grader is!

    • @jbscardshow
      @jbscardshow Před 5 měsíci

      @@BGDsportscards dang- that actually happened? I'm not surprised that it DOES happen, surprised that it would be admitted, though. I've personally got 2 point grade swings on re-subs now....

    • @suzie9874
      @suzie9874 Před 4 měsíci

      @@jbscardshow I am waiting for a lawsuit against PSA. Too much money difference between a 10 down to a 9 on cards. I just opened a box of 83 football and pulled a gem mint Singletary. It should be a 10 with no prob. It is sharp with all four corners sharp and centering in perfect.. Difference in pricing. PSA 10 $1100.00 and PSA 9 sells for around $40.00
      So there is a huge gap in price. I have never sent cards in to be graded. Yet i am sitting on a lot of cards that need graded. But if they come back below a 10. It would cost more than the card is worth. Years ago in the late 90's i bought a football card collection from a guy. He was a writer for Tuff Stuff price guide. I was going thru my 1970s putting together a set. I ran across a perfectly centered card with 4 sharp corners. I have looked at many many many other PSA 10's from the 1970 set. The one i have is as good as the best 10's i have seen. Better than many of the others out there. Yet i feel as though id get down graded due to me never submitting to PSA before. The price goes from like 1200 down to less than 100 from a 10 to 9 in the grade. (Emmerson Boozer is the 1970 card)

  • @twobobsboxbreaks3134
    @twobobsboxbreaks3134 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Don’t send personal orders into BGS either, same thing. SGC all the way, even TAG I’d send personal orders to before PSA and BGS. PSA must be taken bribes

  • @CleanCheapShots
    @CleanCheapShots Před 11 měsíci +12

    I feel your pain. I suspected that they damaged 2 cards. The first time I missed the deadline to return it. The last one I sent back, they have been holding it for determination since March.

    • @MJKINC
      @MJKINC Před 11 měsíci +2

      THERE SHOULD BE NO DEADLINE TO RETURN DAMAGED ITEMS. PEOPLE CAN'T ALWAYS GET TO THE RETURNS QUICKLY AND IN OUR BUSY LIVES, THINGS MAY BE FORGOTTEN FOE AWHILE. ESPECIALLY AFTER WAITING MONTHS FOR A SUBMISSION. PSA THE PLACE TO SEND CARDS, IF YOU LIKE DISAPPOINTMENTS AND HEADACHES.

  • @ClementeCollector
    @ClementeCollector Před 11 měsíci +9

    Made a video recently called- “stop sending cards to PSA” This is more of what I was talking about. PSA is not consistent and is as collectors keep sending to them! I’m your 200th sub BTW, congrats!

  • @brandonduhon1933
    @brandonduhon1933 Před 11 měsíci +6

    I can proudly say , never have , never will … PSA is a J-O-KE

  • @puddy007
    @puddy007 Před 11 měsíci +4

    PSA damaged my 1968 Topps Jim Palmer card. It was a solid 8, but they creased it and gave it a 5. I believe I figured out how they are damaging and creasing so many cards. The card savers are part of the problem. They are too flimsy and bend easily. If you have a grader that squeezes the card saver at the top with their thumb on one side and their index finger on the other side it is very easy to accidentally bend the card saver. As A result, this puts a crease usually down the middle of the card in a vertical direction. Depending on how hard they squeezed to get the card saver to open far enough to take the card out will also determine how long the crease will go down the card. I really believe that’s how the creasing is happening. Try it for yourself and just take a empty card saver and squeeze or pinch the sides hard enough and the card saver will collapse either inward or outward depending on your directional pressure. I won’t ever send another card to PSA for grading. More people need to boycott PSA whenever something like this occurs to them. Until then, nothing will change and more cards will continue to get damaged.

  • @TalkingBallCards
    @TalkingBallCards Před 11 měsíci +11

    Thanks for talking about this, I have covered PSA damaging my cards for years! Make them pay!

    • @TalkingBallCards
      @TalkingBallCards Před 11 měsíci +4

      And I see the same wild grading inconsistencies between orders. The college kids that grade our cards do not care.

  • @duchovny2
    @duchovny2 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The sad part about grading is that it makes it harder for people to pick up cards that they want, simply, because the seller wants to make a gob more money. I don’t buy graded cards. I never will. I don’t wanna overpay for something.

  • @ricecakejohnson
    @ricecakejohnson Před 11 měsíci +8

    Yup, fuck PSA, they creased my MJ insert and it was my word vs theirs. I m not sure how they are handling these cards, but they need to do something to be more careful cause this is ridiculous!

  • @stangreen5920
    @stangreen5920 Před 11 měsíci +3

    WOW thank you for stating your experience with PSA I will use your gained knowledge and apply it to gain a better result when I send my cards in for grading I appreciate your contribution to the hobby 👍😃

  • @jasonwolfe9892
    @jasonwolfe9892 Před 10 měsíci +5

    There’s a newer grading company that uses AI. The resale value wouldn’t be near PSA or SGC but may be worth a try. Especially for the PC. And you get a very in-depth reason for the grade the card is given.

  • @suzie9874
    @suzie9874 Před 4 měsíci +3

    On the 75 Aaron vs Hunter. I see white nearly all the way down the Hunter edge on the right side. The lower right corner of the Hunter is showing some white as well.

  • @KSHE1967
    @KSHE1967 Před 11 měsíci +3

    PSA miss graded some of my cards so I broke them back out & sold them raw for better than the PSA grade would have sold for.

  • @Justinsportscard
    @Justinsportscard Před 11 měsíci +2

    Damn that's crazy on the damage. I always buy my vintage already graded. I have sent atleast 2,000 Modern Mike Trout cards to PSA for registry and never had an issue. Sorry to hear about your issues. Good Luck out there.

  • @dancalmpeaceful3903
    @dancalmpeaceful3903 Před 11 měsíci +10

    Good to see you GET SOBER. More collectors need to follow your lead.....PSA = Con job/scam

  • @MarioLuigi-vb3rp
    @MarioLuigi-vb3rp Před 11 měsíci +10

    They didn’t put a crease in it they swapped it

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 11 měsíci +4

      Definitely creased, I take pictures and videos of all the cards I send out. Easy to identify they're the same card that came back to me

  • @rogerdavis9962
    @rogerdavis9962 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I've been putting off sending to psa, also now thinking to send to sgc...it is frustrating bro....POSITIVE VIBES FROM SUNNY FLORIDA 🌞

  • @rogerdavis9962
    @rogerdavis9962 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Love your vintage

  • @GreatGood5
    @GreatGood5 Před měsícem

    Thanks for the video. I’ve never sent anything to get graded so I’ve been watching numerous videos trying to decide which company to send them to. I’m leaning towards SGC, I like their cases and I heard they’re good with other things.
    I don’t blame you one bit for being frustrated with PSA, I would be livid if that happened to me. Once a card is damaged, there’s no going back with them. Those cards in question aren’t cheap

  • @timswauger8381
    @timswauger8381 Před 11 měsíci +9

    I am done with them also. Grading is too inconsistent. The same card might get a 6 today and an 8 tomorrow. Furthermore, they give the highest grades to their favorite customers.

  • @scuddersgarage51
    @scuddersgarage51 Před 11 měsíci +6

    SGC really is much better. I don't use PSA anymore either

  • @robertanderson2898
    @robertanderson2898 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Nice! Yeah PSA can be a bit unfair...... I think the PSA 8 Carlton wins for me. I also have the '69 Clemente and '66 Koufax (non-graded). Bought the Koufax for $75 raw, probably worth grading. Oh yeah, Liked and just subbed too.

  • @paulnicholson5937
    @paulnicholson5937 Před 5 měsíci +3

    75 Hunter way way off center, I'm surprised it didn't get a MC

  • @MG-FS_Sports_Cards
    @MG-FS_Sports_Cards Před 11 měsíci +7

    I just got back a vintage order from PSA as well. I sent the order in myself with the vintage special they had in February. There is no doubt they are so inconsistent, especially compared to SGC. I thought they over graded a number of my cards and my 89 Upper Deck Griffey rookie is crooked in the case. I prefer SGC all day with vintage and I think most non set registry folks are heading that way as well. Sorry about the damaged cards and thanks for sharing

    • @theJohnGaltLine
      @theJohnGaltLine Před 8 měsíci

      In terms of looks, I think SGC definitely wins hands down.

    • @joshuaanderson5773
      @joshuaanderson5773 Před 4 měsíci

      psa are crooks ruining the market from the get go first card they ever graded was half a card 2nd carxd psa graded was later discovered hafd been trimmed anx authenticating fake autos

  • @sabinoruiz2080
    @sabinoruiz2080 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Fantastic video. I feel your frustration I plan to sent in some cards but I don’t no what grading service to trust?

  • @AmyNWike
    @AmyNWike Před 4 měsíci +1

    I have heard of ppl resuming their cards through other companies getting better grades and paid for damaged cards. Thank you for this video I will not be using psa. I have a lot of vintage cards to get graded soon.

  • @anxzzziety
    @anxzzziety Před 10 měsíci +2

    Grading companies should record the receiving process to show how packages are accepted in, from carriers. Because there is a variable risk of damage after leaving your hands, and before graders obtain it.

  • @remickstreetmusicinc.6931
    @remickstreetmusicinc.6931 Před 11 měsíci +3

    That 75 Jim Hunter is gold but PSA favors bulk submitters, they are inconsistent and they do pop control The 1968 rookie Ryan is a perfect example of that. You make a valid point here… 1 mil cards a month yet all these PSA fanboys stand beside them. To me if they actually had a grading criteria chart that specified how they grade for each grade and it was industry standard then it would remove the “ what will it grade” factor.

  • @ronnieadair908
    @ronnieadair908 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I got a PHOTO COPY ONLY ...of Honus Wagner T-206 factory No.25 29 DIST. VA. with ink stamped on the back.... It was took from the original card ..

  • @jchcollins
    @jchcollins Před 11 měsíci +3

    Agreed the consistency just isn’t there. I’ve seen sharp uncreased cards with decent centering that look like 6’s or 7’s coming back 4’s recently. It doesn’t really make sense. Best bet anymore if you want a certain card in a certain grade, just buy it already slabbed. I’m over it. I learned how to grade before PSA. If I have a nice raw PC card that I’m happy with, it usually doesn’t get sent in anymore. I know what I have. A buddy of mine had a minty, I mean we looked at the corners under 10x and there wasn't a touch on any of them - '68 Ryan rookie, only it was miscut side-to-side. I was expecting him to get like an 8 or 9 (MC). PSA gave him a 4 (MC). Absolutely laughable, there was nothing else wrong with that card besides the cut. They also pop control the big names, and players like Ryan are a prime example. So especially in a condition sensitive set like '71, it's going to be a lot easier to get grades on the level out of a pile of commons than it is players like Ryan or Clemente or Aaron. Sad. It's been more or less like this for decades, but it's particularly bad right now.

  • @reciever05
    @reciever05 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I will going with SGC. Thanks!

  • @sallywingles9057
    @sallywingles9057 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I had a card that was just perfect. I expected a 10. It came back a 9. and the reason being is the card was damaged by PSA. The corners were perfect when I sent it off. I even checked again while it was in the sleeve and cardboard gold sleeve. The top right that had a PERFECT corner was slightly dented when I got it back. I originally pulled the card in 1999, sleeved, top loaded, put away for over 23 yrs. Recently, reviewed it, for stains, corners, scuffs, print issues under my scope, snapped photos, and sent it out and I have no doubt they damaged it. I feared them damaging it more so I didn't bother fighting it. I just sold it for 25K, if it was a 10 I would have been able to sell it for about 45K. Overall it was a decent investment, but I learned you cannot trust PSA.

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 5 měsíci +1

      So sorry that happened to you! Very frustrating

  • @SeanHiggs
    @SeanHiggs Před 11 měsíci +1

    Agree with PSA.. I am 100% sure they screwed my Yount 2nd year.. Never again..

  • @floridastacker
    @floridastacker Před 5 měsíci +1

    I know beckett slabs continue to decline - but I wish all graders included the grades for the different aspects of a card.

  • @salookie8000
    @salookie8000 Před 11 měsíci +2

    PSA 5 also includes cards with light scratches on surface.

  • @tortureyou
    @tortureyou Před 4 měsíci +1

    I live next to BBCE in Indiana and have always had them send in my cards to get graded side by side with theirs. Ive never had any damaged cards returned, have had a few come in lower than expected though. If another grading company starts to have a fanatical following, no pun intended, than I would think about using them but PSA just has to much brand power when I sell them. BBCE will pay me really close to psa book value with a little room of course with little negotiation.

  • @dawnvasquez1139
    @dawnvasquez1139 Před 11 měsíci +1

    When you just started...you were so excited about psa..
    Just be happy your losses are minimal compared to others..

  • @Teflonchxpo
    @Teflonchxpo Před 11 měsíci +2

    Dude.. KEEP your head up. DO NOT let them see you discouraged.
    This industry has become the definition of corruption. For YEARS now.
    Change and transparency is inevitable. It will happen eventually. The true Collectible’s industry will regain respect and prosperity once again.
    Those who believe they control it’s fait.. will fall. It’s only a matter of time.
    Just continue to do right by other collectors.. and have faith.
    THEY WILL NOT WIN IN THE END.
    I PROMISE.

  • @england8331
    @england8331 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Those card savers don't protect the cards very well. Never understood why they make you use them over top loaders.

    • @calronske1853
      @calronske1853 Před 3 měsíci

      A friend of mine has sent vintage beauties to a newer grader, FCG. Super nice slabs with subgrades for $14 bucks-any cards and NO FRICKIN' CARD SAVERS required! I hate those things, too.

  • @eltoroloco1936
    @eltoroloco1936 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The damage could've happened in shipping. The 75 Hunter is as close to miscut as you can get if it's not. It must be from the bottom of the sheet if there isn't another card with how bad OC it is. A diamond cut would reduce it 1 grade at least as well. I think they got that right.

  • @danallshaw1131
    @danallshaw1131 Před 11 měsíci +1

    SGC , can you recommend a couple more outfits that are classy and budget friendly?

  • @joshpitts25
    @joshpitts25 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I'll send cards in when the prices go down. Until then I'll just keep all my cards untouched in my possession.

  • @richardpeetrinpeetrin9817
    @richardpeetrinpeetrin9817 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I always wondered If these card grading companies may pull a switch-a-roo" If you will? What I mean Is, If you send In a 1966 Mantle in Nr-Mt condition, and It comes back in Ex-Mt, who's to say that they just didn't switch your card out for the same card but in lesser condition? Why wouldn't this happen?!😮......

    • @intersheett3754
      @intersheett3754 Před 11 měsíci +3

      This would much rather happen at card stores or other group submitters that submit for you, i think

    • @richardpeetrinpeetrin9817
      @richardpeetrinpeetrin9817 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@intersheett3754 One thing Is for sure, It wouldn't happen with "numbered cards."......

    • @intersheett3754
      @intersheett3754 Před 11 měsíci

      @@richardpeetrinpeetrin9817 definitely! Personally I have made it a habit to write down several comments on each card i submit, especially for those that are unnumbered and when I submit multiples. Those comments include the slightest details i can see, auch as centering, scratches, dings, print lines. aside from serving for my own assessment of grading worthiness, this helps me to afterwards identify which copy was witch when they would otherwise look identical. For instance, my last submission included 10 Dirk rookie cards of the same type, and i was able to identify each one with absolute certainty even after they were slabbed. We send in ourselves and there was so far never any doubt that the slabbed cards were the ones sent in. I have had cases however, where the cards after grading had visible damage like a white corner after they came back, which I knew for a fact they did not have when sending them in. So handling damages, albeit small, do happen on occasion within PSA. In my case, i did not have picture documentation to prove it and submit a claim, unfortunately...

  • @rhq5461
    @rhq5461 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I agree with I will not use PSA either I got back I Trevor Lawrence prizm silver that I though was perfect it got a 6 so just to see I recent it back and this time it got a 10 but I had to pay twice to get the correct grade and it was ultra modern. I have been using CSG for vintage they seem really consistent and I love the slabs

    • @dominicdavino252
      @dominicdavino252 Před 5 měsíci

      Your right sent in 15 1971 and 1975 Bert Blyleven and everyone came back as a 6. Even with the naked eye you can see they were not the same. Rediculous.

  • @jimhalpert3326
    @jimhalpert3326 Před 2 měsíci

    I completely understand that collectors enjoy having cards in the best condition possible. I am just stumped as to why someone would pay another person to basically provide their opinion on the condition of my card. It is clear that every “grader” has different quality standards.

  • @ziwpet
    @ziwpet Před 10 měsíci +2

    What if your cards were swapped out by the 3rd party and PSA for a worse condition card> You will never know now. Do you have pics of before to compare?

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 10 měsíci

      I record videos and take pictures of every card. They're not swapped

  • @bobo44donemilking51
    @bobo44donemilking51 Před 11 měsíci +1

    You are 💯 correct

  • @davidhall4363
    @davidhall4363 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the video I haven't sent my cards to PSA and looks like they are very anal with grading. I'll have to go with beck or GC.

  • @bobdenver7126
    @bobdenver7126 Před 11 měsíci +2

    grading is fair, about 10 years ago my brother bought 2 montana rookies both .5 from 9.5 cracked them out and put them in rcr in chicago they told me bevealed edges, I saw someone I knew there he put them in rcr same show 9.5 and 8.5

  • @Doors067
    @Doors067 Před měsícem

    SGC welcomes you with open arms bro

  • @BobMarley-ol6xt
    @BobMarley-ol6xt Před 9 měsíci +2

    PSA is the most inconsistent card grader out there in my opinion Not to mention when them mantle PSA 10s ever pop up People are going to find out they were altered PSA graded so many altered cards eventually it's going to catch up with them

    • @canuckowl
      @canuckowl Před 6 měsíci +1

      So true. I think all those Mantle 10s are bogus. You take a card out of a package back then and you did not pop it in a protective sleeve. They were handled. Big big money in those.

  • @nicholasb8799
    @nicholasb8799 Před 3 měsíci

    Why does that Jim Hunter look to be really floating in that holder....

  • @jasonhipkins
    @jasonhipkins Před měsícem

    Love all your cards. Sorry to hear about PSA crap. Just one question, how can a 67 Banks with crease in it get a 5?

  • @DeuceTreyz
    @DeuceTreyz Před 5 měsíci

    I talked to a grader and I see you are putting "tabs" on them. I was actually told it's easier to not have those on there as they can lead to the damage of the card. Just some food for thought

  • @tcmyrick
    @tcmyrick Před 11 měsíci

    How much for the two over graded Hammerin’ Hank’s????

  • @studfieldmouse1369
    @studfieldmouse1369 Před 11 měsíci

    What sucks the most is you have to document your orders because you can’t trust the graders which is why your paying in the first place. Also no explanation on the grades

  • @spratt8958
    @spratt8958 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I refuse to send to PSA until they grade like TAG. They need to be more consistent regardless of who you are or how you are sending them in to be graded. Also, the creasing sounds like an automated scanning machine that creases the card via a roller that creases the card in the process of taking card in and out of the scanner. No way are they hand scanning over a million cards per month front/back without automation.

  • @bobwhite4671
    @bobwhite4671 Před 7 měsíci

    Who are you sending your cards to? Sounds like your saying SEC or is it SGC?

  • @user-xf2tl8ee3c
    @user-xf2tl8ee3c Před 11 měsíci

    I only use top loaders now when submitting cards

  • @mestizo3113
    @mestizo3113 Před 3 měsíci

    I don't know why these grading companies think that it's safer to use card saver sleeves over a thicker type of sleeve. If I'm sending a vintage card (or any card for that matter) and it has the possibility of getting a high grade, then why would they take the chance of having to deal with upset customers and the chance of having to reimburse the customer for a damaged card?

  • @michaelbovee6808
    @michaelbovee6808 Před 18 dny

    As with anything where money is out there for the taking, there must be corruption in the grading game. It seems as though NO CARD before 1980 can even get a 10 anymore. It’s like they’ve agreed to shut the door on vintage high grading to keep the pop small to keep the highest prices high so people will keep grading their “great cards” thinking they might get a 10 when they never had a chance to no matter how perfect the card may actually be? It seems like for vintage, a 7 or 8 is the new 10. I’d love to see some high magnification comparisons using the same card issue in various grades compared to the same grades given from a different time. Like a 1976 Nolan Ryan 8 grade from 2024 and an 8 from 2010? And do that for ones from 2018 & 2022. As many of the same card graded in different years of the same card, same grade, same company. And try to build a body of stats that may show bias or pattern of some kind to get to the bottom of this highly lucrative industry. (An independent audit of the grading industry) My instincts don’t like something about it. It is in the best interest of the graders and those who hold old Gem 10s to not increase those elite populations. It feels like there are artificial factors imposing itself over objective grading practices. Like the graders indirectly get the message to dial it up or down without it being explicitly or officially spoken.
    There is NO excuse for damaging a card and you have all my sympathies for that, anyone would!
    Like who are the people actually grading the cards? Are they coming to work High AF giggling as they carelessly pull the cards out of the protector you meticulously made sure was protected and undamaged, and go “oopsie” when they ding it as they take it out? I guarantee you some are! So if he grades your cards in the first half hour at work is he more lenient or more nitpicky? Compared to the last half hour before lunch when he’s starting to Jones a little for his smoke time? I mean if you don’t think all this shit is happening everyday in these grading rooms, you are not acknowledging reality of the human condition. There are graders who must hate what they do, or hate a certain player for whatever reason, or are so tired of seeing the same cards all the time. That’s why it’s an imperfect science at best. And why it needs something to keep them in check somewhat. They can’t have the absolute final say because we know what that does eventually.

  • @eltoroloco1936
    @eltoroloco1936 Před 2 měsíci

    Anything with a 4 that otherwise looks good usually has a crease or surface wrinkle.

  • @donhoefling3521
    @donhoefling3521 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I changed to SGC a few years ago. Will never use PSA again they are so inconsistent on grading it’s not funny. They are just a modern card grader

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 5 měsíci

      I love SGC, I wish the resale would catch up to PSA. Vintage isn't too bad most of the time but modern cards get hammered if they aren't PSA

  •  Před 5 měsíci

    Haven't sent any cards for grading since 2004. What a farce grading is. How can people afford buying expensive cards, blasters, boxes, hangers, etc, and then the need to get them graded. Crazy!

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 5 měsíci

      It certainly was easier to stomach when the cost of grading was under $10 per card!

  • @shawnnorrell1686
    @shawnnorrell1686 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I watch a lot of these videos and I see a lot of dissatisfied folks. All are sent to PSA I have about 30 cards that I want to get graded. I’m not using PSA. Maybe Beckett or sgc but definitely not PSA Too inconsistent. You made me 100% sure of my decision. I know PSA sells easily but I not selling my cards. Just want them graded for the relative that I leave them to, so they know what they have 🖕👌🇺🇸

    • @shawnnorrell1686
      @shawnnorrell1686 Před 11 měsíci

      Sorry I punched the wrong symbol 👍😟

    • @DutronComics
      @DutronComics Před 10 měsíci

      For 'vintage' cards (~pre-1985ish) I'd go with SGC for consistent grading and higher value cards that you may want to sell/invest in. For 1986+(junk wax-modern)/non-sports (also lower value/PC/sentimetal)cards I'd recommend CSG(soon to be CGC) for the consistent albeit 'tough' grading and much more reasonable cost; also, they have the BEST quality/feel/clarity slab in the industry atm and have a massive built-in customer base from all the other collectables they grade(specifically comics, memorabilia and coins) + they are poised to take a lot of customers away from PSA.
      IDC if PSA is the 'known standard' in the industry, the real collectors know the value of quality slabs from SGC and CSG is gaining a positive reputation as well!

  • @joefran619
    @joefran619 Před 2 měsíci

    Don't send a lot in but SGC has been good to me so far. Held a 1960 Jim Kaat rookie for 20 years. Bought it through Sports Collect Digest from St, Louis Baseball Cards, This was before any PSA, or other grading companies existed. Paid 16 dollars for a card they graded as a nrmt, a 7 by todays standards. Sent off to SGC after his HOF announcement and it came back a 7.5.

    • @joefran619
      @joefran619 Před 2 měsíci

      Correction: 30 + years ago.

  • @caesarvalentin6332
    @caesarvalentin6332 Před 25 dny

    Suggestions buy cards that are already graded by either PSA ir the other business companies

  • @benjaminsmith6063
    @benjaminsmith6063 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I prefer SGC for vintage . But modern stuff you have to go with PSA because the value is 2X or more for a PSA 10 vs SGC 10 . Until people stop paying a premium for PSA slabs they are almost a necessary evil.

    • @jasonmarcus8896
      @jasonmarcus8896 Před 3 měsíci

      What about cards from the 70's and 80's? Still go with PSA? It's so expensive for a non-member. Struggling to find 20 to get the bulk pricing.

  • @jonathanlibeskind7641
    @jonathanlibeskind7641 Před 5 měsíci

    I am with you

  • @stuckin66
    @stuckin66 Před 2 měsíci

    That percentage of damaged cards arriving back from PSA is about right in my experience, ~10%. SGC and Beckett don't damage cards. Almost criminal. Taking photos/videos before sending is is a very good thing to do. Stick with SGC or Beckett.

  • @carlr2259
    @carlr2259 Před 11 měsíci

    Is a lawsuit against terms and conditions? For damaging your cards.

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I believe it is in the fine print when you send in an order that you cannot sue them but I'm not certain on that. I know when they damaged the 55 robinson I had to send it back to them for review. I am still waiting over 2 months later for them to make a decision on whether or not they will reimburse me for damaging the card

  • @thinkingfreely5545
    @thinkingfreely5545 Před 11 měsíci

    Do you know for a fact that PSA damaged them, or are they swapping out the better cards for personal gain?

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 11 měsíci +2

      100%. Cards that have been damaged have identifiers that are distinct.

    • @thinkingfreely5545
      @thinkingfreely5545 Před 11 měsíci

      @@BGDsportscards Thank you for responding. I only asked because I have had 2 coins graded that were clearly swapped for worse condition coins. I had pictures but just got the run around. I am just wary of grading companies, they will take advantage of new and small customers.

  • @dawnvasquez1139
    @dawnvasquez1139 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Psa will be consistent...in turning 7s to 5s...and 6s to 4s...
    And that's thier deal.

  • @jasonhipkins
    @jasonhipkins Před měsícem

    I have not sent anything to PSA since July 2020. Will never do it again.

  • @davidvitch177
    @davidvitch177 Před 3 měsíci

    I will never send to PSA either ever, holy shit they damage ur cards, wow, never thought PSA would damage people's cards!

  • @jonathanlibeskind7641
    @jonathanlibeskind7641 Před 5 měsíci

    Why not sgc?

  • @nathanmulkey
    @nathanmulkey Před 11 měsíci

    First time visit to the channel. Love the content but maybe work on the lighting when showing off the cards. It's coming off shadowy and dark.

  • @buschleaguers75
    @buschleaguers75 Před 9 měsíci

    note all your grades...crack them and send them to sgc or cgc...i did that...cracked 25 cards out of psa cases...sent them to cgc and they got an average of 2 grades higher. thats how much bullshit is going on at psa right now. its literally like they are just randomly slapping a number on them.

  • @thomasanthony4616
    @thomasanthony4616 Před 11 měsíci

    They dinged bottom left corner on a 97' Chrome Ref Duncan RC..still was graded a 10 but I couldn't with good conscience sell it at a premium..I sold it at PSA 7 Comps...the buyer flipped it for the full price 😮 they creased a NT RPA Burrow RC /5 at the National last summer..the guy who submitted it in person had tons of pics showing how pristine it was..$50K card..don't know how that turned out for the poor guy..doubt they admitted they did it since they graded it a PSA 4..scummy

  • @THEKANSASANGLER
    @THEKANSASANGLER Před 2 měsíci

    why dont share your photos you say have side by side with the graded cards?

  • @jaywange2449
    @jaywange2449 Před 11 měsíci

    Just found your channel!! Are you looking to sell any? Jay

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 11 měsíci

      Sometimes but not always. My discord server is pinned. Best place to reach me if you're interested in any is on discord

  • @coreysargent6075
    @coreysargent6075 Před 10 měsíci

    has to do with how centered the front and back are that's why you thought you would get a six or seven you got a four.

  • @vintagecollector5340
    @vintagecollector5340 Před 10 měsíci

    Is PSA not being held accountable for damaging peoples cards?! Maybe take a good photo of them before sending them off to them? They recently declined to fix a label on a ticket of mine, because it was an "unofficial" Exhibition game. It's a Mays rookie where he debuted at Fenway and they refuse to label it as such. They tell me it's not a debut, because it's not official, even though he never played a regular game at Fenway. I guess the customer is wrong and PSA can continue to inconsistently grade cards and damage them without any repercussions, too.

  • @frankspicci9994
    @frankspicci9994 Před 11 měsíci

    That's why you're buying the card and not the grade.

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Not sure why this applies to my frustration. The inconsistent grading on cards I'm sending to them and the fact that they damaged multiple cards of mine is why I'm upset. I could live with the inconsistent grading but when over 5% of the cards I sent to them have come back damaged I will not put up with that.

    • @frankspicci9994
      @frankspicci9994 Před 11 měsíci

      I was just meaning that no two vintage cards and mid-grade are like and that's why I always tell people to buy the card not the grade. You are pointing out how the Catfish Hunter 5 and the Hank Aaron 5 we're the same grade but the condition was visibly different.. you are saying which one would someone rather have and I was just pointing out that that's why we buy the card it looks better in the same grade if they were the same exact card. Anyways I've been driving for two days home from the Midwest Monster and I'm exhausted in my brain is probably in zombie mode so I'm not even sure I know what I was talking about

  • @dancalmpeaceful3903
    @dancalmpeaceful3903 Před 11 měsíci +1

    A real company would send back a report which FULLY details WHY a card is graded the way it is. You shouldn't have TO guess WHY a card grades a certain way. They need to make it FULLY clear and evident. What a scam the whole thing is.....STOP sending cards to these sh_tbags.....

  • @dawnvasquez1139
    @dawnvasquez1139 Před 11 měsíci

    Remember me??...,and what I told you would happen at psa???

  • @jasonmarcus8896
    @jasonmarcus8896 Před 3 měsíci

    Asking as somebody who hasn't submitted in over a decade, how does PSA know if it's a dealer sending in something as opposed to an individual person?

    • @BGDsportscards
      @BGDsportscards  Před 3 měsíci

      You have an account attached to your orders. They can see where every order comes from

  • @JohnnymoeBelsome
    @JohnnymoeBelsome Před 3 měsíci

    PSA grabs the holders and squeezes hard to get the cards to slide out. That’s my opinion and how else would it happen.

  • @bobh6634
    @bobh6634 Před 11 měsíci

    Quality of their work seems to have gone down hill, while their services pricing continues to rise. Other graders out there...

  • @caesarvalentin6332
    @caesarvalentin6332 Před 25 dny

    I have seen nearmint card graded by PSA excellent munt and other cards viceversa. No accuracy in grading cards by PSA