To Grade or Not to Grade? The Process I Use To Determine if I Should Send a Card in to PSA
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If only EVERYONE in the hobby operated like this!
Think of how much faster, snd how much cheaper getting a card graded!
This was very interesting. I think a video with vintage cards as the examples would be a cool follow-up. Might be nice to hear which grading companies you consider based on the condition and resale value of the card, too.
If resale value is the only thing that matters then PSA is the choice. They are worse in every other way compared to the other big companies, but they have the highest resale value.
It's only because they have corned the market on grading, which, by the way, is illegal in business if you think about it.
Would love to see a vintage version of this. As I get back into the hobby I am trying to do this better but so far have not done well determining what to send
Yes! Would love to see more permutations of this. Been in the hobby for 40+ years and have never submitted for grading but have the urge, this helps!
I'm in the same boat. I have a few cards that I think have a shot at a 10 and could be worth a few thousand if so but I just can't pull the trigger on sending them in fear of something happening to them in the process. I've never sent any card to be graded either.
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Same here, I'm looking more at whether vintage cards that get a 6 or 7 might be worth it...
Yes I would love to see more of these examples! Awesome video
Nice, informative video. Thanks! Yes, it would be great to see further examples, especially a handful of examples from a few older decades and star levels. For example, 1930s, 1950s and 1970s for both a superstar and a minor star. I would assume for some of the more valuable cards, one needs to somehow factor in the value of the card simply being authenticated. For cards for which there are known forgeries, I am guessing that you might virtually always want the card graded, but would love to hear your thoughts and opinions
Absolutely love the video. Fun, smart etc. Another hidden cost is fees/shipping once you sell the card. So the ~70 on the Posey is actually ~55. Would love to see more of these!
I used to have faith in PSA but they have lost my trust after several key incidents over the past 2 years. I would only go SGC if I were to grade again. I love your informative content Chris. Thanks again!
Thanks! Yes - I’d like to see vintage review process.
Yes vintage would be interesting because I'm personally in that stage of exploring and collecting vintage and determining authentic vs. counterfeit.... ultra-modern might be interesting on a prospect level of factoring in forecasting within the volatility side of it
I'd love to see the journey of 3 or 4 cards from "cradle to grave". How much you paid (or estimated the value of when buying in a collection). The thought process in the decision to send it off for grading or not. The decision of where you put it for sale (ebay/comc or other), and how much you got for it when it sold - with cost details and time details all through the journey. Just be a fun one thing to follow through the entire process...perhaps for different vintages or values....
BTW - I teach accounting and the decision to grade a card (or not) is called a "Sell or Process Further" decision - this is a great (and easy to understand) example that I will use in my classes going forward.
Thats a great idea showing the full process!
I'm actually going through this process right now - thanks for the insight!
I agree Chris that Kobe 96 E-X2000 Rookie card is way better looking and rarer than his Topps Chrome. Also no greening issues like many of his Chrome cards.
Perfect timing. I’m putting together a group to send for grading for the first time.
Good luck!
Great top that only the top 20%_30% of seller understand themselves! Keep it up, we need your help!
Thank for taking the time to break this process down. I’ve been wanting to send cards off but not knowing do I or not. This was a big help.🔥🔥🔥🔥
Quality content on your channel that’s why I’m subscribed. Much better than following these other guys walk around card shows just fist bumping the whole time. Thank you Chris!
Very good into the process of getting a card graded. Gave it a like.
Helpful video! Good point on the new rookie volatility.
What a great video. I like how you use the Raw Value instead of Purchase Price for Total -- makes much more sense.
Hi Chris, been watching your videos for some time now, and this was by far your most informative, great analysis and break down, also talking about the card and showing the defects that graders are looking at and how that takes a card from Gem to a possible 6. I Would enjoy more of these types of videos.
Really liked this video. I would love more comparisons in the future.
Super helpful, very informative. Thanks for this video. Would love to see more
Thank you Chris, I love how you take the time to help educate us about things involving the hobby. I agree with the others who suggested doing a video with vintage cards.
Thanks! Educational and the template can be used for all grading companies. People just need to be honest with themselves when estimating grade and value's being assigned. The 3 tier grade model is perfect. Would like to see vintage and/or non-sports cards.
Great video, Chris! Love the thought process.
Love this video (just like all the others you post). Always informative. I’d love to see your take on maybe SGC in a similar fashion. As a collector returning to the hobby after 15 years around the same age as you are, I don’t have the funds to join PSA, or the collection surplus to justify the money. I seem to find SGC is more affordable to a small time collector like me, and honestly I feel they are far more strict on their grades in comparison to PSA (although PSA seems to be getting more strict.)
Definitely grading costs with SGC versus PSA is great savings for a collector that generally doesn't plan on reselling.
Chris, you are a gem ! Great videos, great speaking style, honest and considerate of others.
Thanks man, I'm new to this grading racket - this explained alot!
Great video. A vintage one would be awesome.
One of my favorite videos you have published!! I think about this stuff all the time. I wish that the Kobe E-X becomes his iconic RC. I love that card.
I'd probably add one more quick calculation that probability weights the value of the card to understand at what % chance of a 10 (or whatever your highest grade estimate is) is it worth sending in the card.
For example, you set your desired return on investment, and you know what the sale prices are at 8/9/10 and you give a range of probabilities of grading at each level and goal seek your probability weighted return to match your desired ROI. Then if the chances of getting the highest grade are too unbelievable, you can feel confident in not sending in the card. Really just puts more structure and data around your intuition. I wouldn't rely on something like this standalone, but it could help in your decision making process, and could help you to spot the ones where a calculated risk is worth taking (though those spots should be kind of obvious where there's a step function chance in value between your middle and high grades, like going 9 to 10).
Thanks this helped quantify what deserves being graded very well . Thanks Chris- more like this please. 👍
I love your content. Thanks for another great video 🙏
Great breakdown Chris. I’m more of a comic book guy, but when evaluating books to submit for grading, the same rules apply. Excellent assessment.
Excellent. Yes make this a series. Also Ive been wanting you to breakdown how you organize your cards.
Cool and informative video, Chris. Great way of looking at the big picture!
Helpful video as always Chris. Thank you.
Loved this episode. Perfect explanation of why to grade the Buster and not grade the Kobe--sounds counterintuitive, but made perfect sense for your example cards.
Definitely need more of these,❤️💯
Really enjoyed this video and hearing your thought process.
Yes to more examples!
Yes please make more
Thanks for sharing your thought process, Chris. Good info.
I’ve always enjoyed your content and appreciate the questions of mine you’ve answered. However, I’m going to need more content. A video per day should do it.
Interesting and appreciated. Mostly a collector but still like to pursue quality and value. I think in this day and age we all need to learn more about pregrading. Definately worth more conversation.
Phenomenal video, Chris! Please do more of these! I just got my first PSA order back...after 15 months. I would say the grades were tough, but fair. I decided to do something very similar to what you just presented before sending in my next order..lol! Great video.
Loved this. Yes, please do vintage. I collect 40’s and 50’s. Building sets with PSA.
Jeez remember when he had 2k subs congrats on 50k man !
Awesome stuff. Please do another one for vintage. Thanks.
interested Christopher love to c more like this. especially vintage
Don't forget about that annual "fee" ($100) you have to pay PSA, to be a "subscriber" to even be able to purchase their service!
That was an awesome video lesson Chris!! Thanks I really understand more because of it.. outstanding!!
I really enjoyed your process of determination. Keep up the great work and look forward to your next video like always
Great video and would love to see more. Thanks Chris.
This was a great video, and I would be happy to see more like this. Especially since they are actually your cards, and you're actually thinking of grading them. I found this video very interesting. Thanks!
Would love more videos like this. Vintage!
I guess I lean more towards collecting as I mostly grade vintage cards from my favorite teams. When it comes to modern cards, I grade a few of my favorite players & those I intend to consign. Yes Chris, making more videos like this will edify all of us collectors/investors/dealers in that order 😆
Please do more. That was a very informative video
Loved this concept. Please do some more like this!
Really enjoyed this great to hear your thought process.
REALLY enjoyed this very helpful video! Thanks Chris!
A vintage episode would be great.
Hi, yes! more examples like this would be great! 👍🏼😀
I have the 1986 Jerry Rice rookie, I don't want to grade it, I want to sell it raw for top dollar! Great video!
Really enjoyed it. Keep them coming!
Awesome sauce! Would love to see some vintage!
Thank you for the information on that. Very detailed info. Helps alot to know how it really does benefit you in the long run
I would love more videos like this with vintage cards.
Great video master Jedi! Thanks for all your content
Great video Chris! Ya, some ultra rare stuff would be good to show your decision making process. Ie, last one sold was 3 years ago, or very low numbered cards of stars with no sales, etc
Very cool video concept. If you make them, I’ll watch them.
Always enjoy your time and your knowledge.
Would love to see both ultra modern and vintage episodes
Great video and thanks for all the info
Fantastic work. Please do more of these occasionally.
I learned the hard way sending in cards with long waits Sometimes better to sell raw
Great info/stats ⚡ any advice is very appreciated, tks, looking forward to more videos ❣️✌️
Nice video! Very Informative! And definitely Enjoy seeing your take on what and what not to grade! Definitely would like to see more! I think it would make great content for videos with a lot of the cards you send to grade depending on if it’s worth your time! It’ll definitely get views! Just because I think a lot of us like seeing into your thoughts as a seller or collector! And even the quick flips!
Really like this video. Would love to see more. Thanks Chris
Yes Chris, do more of these. Do vintage next! Then maybe another vid on ultra modern. Thanks
Terrific video and would love to see some vintage of players like Mays or Aaron. For anyone starting out selling; this is a super helpful video
Thank you Chris!
Fantastic job.
Another great video Chris, good job on creating new content,, never seen any video like yours, 👍
Thanks Chris! I don’t see nearly as much “grading volatility” in modern and ultra-modern. I do, however, find my best guess is often off on vintage. With your wealth of experience would love to see this on pre-junk.
Really enjoyed this video and would love to see more in the future. I also think you need to do videos where you pull a random box from behind (in your video background) you and go through the cards that are in it while giving the reasoning of what you plan to do with them.
Great video. Can't wait for another. Ultra Modern would be interesting to anyone who has invested in these cards.
I would love to see this kind of piece about vintage. Something about a big star card, a hi# common and a lesser HoF. Thanks, Chris
Thanks for this analysis and demonstration. I recently found over a thousand of my old cards that were preserved in plastic for decades and while looking into their value have been appalled that you need to pay so much to get cards graded. The PSA prices are outrageous and not worth it in my opinion because there is no guarantee that you even sell the card after it's been given a score. I was excited to find these old crisp-looking cards with 4 sharp edges, but now not so much since the values I think they're worth are based on the PSA scores and I refuse to pay for that.
Agree that the video is informative. One issue with the first example is that selling costs are not factored in. If you add selling costs (assume 15% of the $30 difference), that is an additional $4.50, so you would lose $7.50 in the card's total valuation. Another way to look at it is 85% net x $42 = $35.70; subtracting the PSA grading fee gives $2.70 net income for the card. Or the alternative, 85% net x $12 = $10.20 net income without the PSA grading fee. Adding this step would help provide insight into the profit or loss decision to send the card.
Great job breaking this down to its barest essentials.
Worth noting, although this video focuses on flipping/selling cards, another fairly common use case for grading is for addition to a personal collection. I'm currently gathering some raw cards purchased on eBay to get them graded eventually when prices come back down to pre-pandemic pricing, and they'll all end up in my PC and/or very long term holds.
great video - would love to see more on this
I would like to see more videos like this. Cheers!
Great video my friend, I appreciate the insight into your decision making.
Great video! Love the content
I like your outline of how to determine this. I wish the new to the hobby speculators would stop sending garbage to PSA. I won't mention the player that I PC, but he's a local star, not a big name nationally and I recently saw a glut of his very recent Topps Holiday rookie slabs hit ebay. You can't take a dollar card (at best) and slab it and then tell me it's a $30 card. Grading is a mess right now.
I would love to see more of this type of video content. I am just getting back into the hobby, and have quite a few baseball and some basketball from the 70s. Need to consider whether to send any of what I have off to grade, I guess just more examples of the difference between what flaws would result in a 7, versus and 8 or 9, for example. Thanks for all your videos, I am really enjoying them and learning a lot.
Great video, thank you!
If you own Kobe Bryant rookie cards. Since the cards is free. You should consider psa grading for 30 bucks. You will still make big profit on psa 7 or 8