Eliminate Laser Smoke on a Budget
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- čas přidán 30. 09. 2022
- Is it possible to eliminate laser smoke without blowing your budget? While the easiest way to eliminate smoke from your laser is to vent it outside, this isn’t always practical, especially if your laser isn’t located near a window. Comgrow is solving this solution with a combination of products including a portable laser enclosure and standalone air purifier, and while totally eliminating smells is very challenging, this combination should be fully capable of reducing those smells, smoke and dust from your laser work area.
In this video, I will review both the Comgrow portable fireproof enclosure and their air purifier to see if they solve your laser smoke issues in environments where you have no option to vent directly outside.
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As always great video Steve, very intuitive. 👌👍
Thanks
Thank you for the honest assessment. Your video was helpful.
I try my best
I have the xTool Air Purifier, which has a filter many times as big as that but looks similar. It still has a slight smoke smell. I ended up just venting to the outside, but I might still use it for non-wood items in the winter.
These purifiers will work well for things like acrylic, metal engraving, etc, and are ok for wood, but venting to outside will always be best
Olá, tudo bem? Estou considerando adquirir uma máquina de corte a laser de diodo, mas percebi que é crucial ter cuidado ao lidar com o MDF. Além disso, estou ponderando se essa precaução deve se estender a outros materiais, especialmente porque, no caso do MDF, que não é amplamente discutido no Brasil, precisei buscar informações no exterior.
Embora seja um tema pouco abordado, fiquei preocupado ao descobrir que há indícios de que o MDF pode estar relacionado ao câncer, devido aos gases produzidos durante o processo de corte a laser. Infelizmente, não consegui encontrar informações sobre os gases emitidos durante a queima de outros materiais, como papelão, couro, acrílico, entre outros, mas é provável que também emitam gases tóxicos.
Com base nesses dados, gostaria de saber se existe alguma espécie de cabine de exaustão para este equipamento, capaz de filtrar e limpar esses gases antes de serem liberados no ambiente. Procuro uma solução que não apenas proteja o ambiente interno, mas também garanta que o ar expelido para fora seja limpo. Os modelos disponíveis no mercado são predominantemente de nível industrial e bastante caros. Eu gostaria de uma opção mais acessível e eficiente para usar em espaços que não possuem grandes quintais ou uma ventilação tão robusta, evitando assim possíveis incômodos para os vizinhos, já que há relatos de que o odor dos gases pode ser extremamente incômodo, especialmente se o equipamento ficar ligado por longos períodos.
Agradeço desde já pela sua ajuda e orientação. Recentemente, recebi uma resposta chocante que gostaria de compartilhar. Ela afirmou que 'se você está com medo, é só não fazer, porque tudo na vida faz algum tipo de mal para a saúde'. Essa abordagem demonstra uma falta de consideração não apenas pela própria saúde, mas também pela saúde dos outros.
Great video. Would you recommend a DIY air/smoke purifier? These things are so expensive. I have the Elegoo Phecda 20w, and it fills my basement with smoke. 4 days now and still smells down there. I have an enclosure that came with a filter but it went bad about 2 weeks of off and on cutting.
So here's the deal. I'm currently working on my next video, which will be about the Wecreat Fume Purifier. It looks great and works amazingly well, but isn't for anyone who's on a tight budget.
Coincidentally, I have been designing a homebrew fume extractor on the cheap and will produce a video and plans for it. It probably won't be as good as the Wecreat because it's almost industrial strength, but I wanted to use off-the-shelf parts and make it as cost-effective as possible.
Hang in there for a month or so and I'll get this video for the homebrew extractor put together. In the mean time you really need to be venting outside, so start building yourself an enclosure (hmmm maybe another video in waiting) and get a length of dryer venting and a 75mm fan.
Thank you. Will watch when you post new homebrew video. Have a great day
Wondered if you were still using your Muse laser at all and if you would still recommend them based on up to date experience? I was attracted to that product but saw a lot of negative comments around support. Wanted to get your take on support to date.
Yes I still use my Muse, though now is it basically assigned to rotary work since my 90W laser can do everything the Muse can do plus more. I think overall most companies have support issues that they should be working to improve, so I wouldn’t put much stock in specific complaints about any company.
As far as my recommendation, that would depend on your budget and your desire to tinker. I think the RE3 software is easy to use but seriously lags Lightburn for capability and I wish FSL would just support Lightburn rather than trying to do their own thing. So from a software perspective I would recommend any other laser running Lightburn, but on most of those lasers you will need to learn a bit more about maintaining the hardware. Note that my gripe about closed software also pertains to the Glowforge, though they have an additional set of problems.
Personally I’d say that unless your use case requires working with clear acrylic, I would recommend a 20W diode laser since it can cut thicker material than most CO2 lasers and can engrave metals. Diode lasers also happen to cost several $k less than a CO2
I bought the enclosure and smoke purifier and haven't had a chance to unbox them yet. How was the noise level of the purifier? I also bought the 20W ATEZR P20 Plus which I'm anxious to get unboxed soon. Have you been asked to review it?
The air purifier is a bit loud at 100% but you can dial it down. I’ve been talking to ATEZR and hope to do a review soon.
@@SteveMakesEverything Thanks for your info, Steve. I'll leave the purifier in the box and sell it locally. I'll just vent my laser out a window with a stronger, quieter fan. I really appreciate your channel and more so that your intro doesn't waste any time. Kudos.
@@rango_unchained Definitely being able to duct outside is better than any air purifier
Thank you for your videos (I am watching most of them) - I am new to this world and planning on purchasing a laser - but have concerns about the fume extraction. You are so correct - no one talks about the fumes. I plan to use a DYI fume extractor with all the same layers as the purchased ones and then exhaust from it to the outside using the A/C Infinity Cloudline S6. I am in a mobile home park and need to know how much actual "smoke and fumes" will exhaust outside. Will the fume extractor remove most of the smell and smoke so what vents outside is minimal or will I still have huge billows of smoke and smell coming out my window (which would get me in trouble with the community)?
There isn’t a lot of smoke - certainly less than a campfire. Once it’s outside it would be hard to notice
Hello everything is fine? I'm considering getting a diode laser cutting machine, but I've realized that it's crucial to be careful when dealing with MDF. Furthermore, I am considering whether this precaution should be extended to other materials, especially since, in the case of MDF, which is not widely discussed in Brazil, I needed to seek information abroad.
Although it is a topic that is rarely covered, I was concerned to discover that there is evidence that MDF may be linked to cancer, due to the gases produced during the laser cutting process. Unfortunately, I was unable to find information about the gases emitted when burning other materials, such as cardboard, leather, acrylic, among others, but it is likely that they also emit toxic gases.
Here's more information about one of the chemicals found in simple MDF (formaldehyde is a colorless, flammable gas that, at room temperature, has a strong odor. Exposure to this gas can cause adverse health effects on the respiratory system, eyes and on the skin. The most common symptoms are: irritation (in the eyes, nose and throat), tearing, nasal burning, coughing, bronchial spasms, lung irritation and dermatitis. In extreme cases, it can cause cancer, effects that are heightened if the material where finds this product is burned). It would be good if MDF existed without this product in its manufacture, but there are suppliers who don't even know how MDF is made.
Olá, tudo bem? Estou considerando adquirir uma máquina de corte a laser de diodo, mas percebi que é crucial ter cuidado ao lidar com o MDF. Além disso, estou ponderando se essa precaução deve se estender a outros materiais, especialmente porque, no caso do MDF, que não é amplamente discutido no Brasil, precisei buscar informações no exterior.
Embora seja um tema pouco abordado, fiquei preocupado ao descobrir que há indícios de que o MDF pode estar relacionado ao câncer, devido aos gases produzidos durante o processo de corte a laser. Infelizmente, não consegui encontrar informações sobre os gases emitidos durante a queima de outros materiais, como papelão, couro, acrílico, entre outros, mas é provável que também emitam gases tóxicos.
segue mais dados sobre um dos produtos químicos encontrado em uma simples mdf ( formaldeído é um gás incolor e inflamável que, à temperatura ambiente, possui um forte odor. A exposição a esse gás pode causar efeitos adversos à saúde no sistema respiratório, nos olhos e na pele. Os sintomas mais comuns são: irritação (nos olhos, nariz e garganta), lacrimação, queimadura nasal, tosse, espasmos bronquiais, irritação pulmonar e dermatite. Em casos extremos, pode causar câncer, efeitos que se potencializa se o material onde encontra este produto for queimado).Seria bom se existisse o mdf sem este produto em sua fabricação, mas tem fornecedor que nem sabe como é feito o mdf.
@@alexcavalcanticosta1585 The chemical composition will depend on where you live on the planet. Many countries have restrictions on what can be used in building materials like MDF and formaldehyde isn't universally used for MDF.
Still, the message here is to always understand what is in the materials your laser it youching.
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I can't talk about other countries, but the problem is that here in Brazil there are suppliers who don't even know how MDF is made, especially whether or not it contains formaldehyde or other toxic substances, and there are people who respond in a clueless way ( She stated that 'if you are scared, just don't do it, because everything in life is bad for your health')
não posso falar dos outros países mais o problema é que aqui no Brasil tem fornecedor que nem sabe como é feito o mdf , ainda mais se possui ou não o formaldeído ou outras substancias tóxicas, fora que tem pessoas que respondem de uma maneira sem noção (Ela afirmou que 'se você está com medo, é só não fazer, porque tudo na vida faz algum tipo de mal para a saúde')
@@alexcavalcanticosta1585 Indeed, she didn't give you a useful answer. Sometimes if you can figure out who made the material, you can go back to the manufacturer and get a data sheet for it.
Very good video, I resently baught my first Atomstack x20 PRO to see how it can complement my 3D printing designs. First experiense was the smells, so with no laser air purifier nere I went to IKEA for a Förnuftig purifier that I could get same day, I first tried it as this one to collect smoke without enclosure, not very impressed even if it was better, so buit temporary enclosure and exosed air to work space, better results but far from enough. So I remade my enclosure to fit air purifier and recirulating air inside it, and now results are getting better, with air assist at max I get recirculated about 7 times as air assist pump out air from outside. Filters look pretty much thesame for carbon, but Förnufig carbon filters hav a lot more surface area, but depth seems to be the same. If theres a simple mod to resirculate I would like to now, and do this filters have better efficensy than the sheep IKEA filters? Best regard from Sweden :)
P.S looking into making Pellets filter now for air filtration with active carbon pellets to see what longer travel through the carbon will have as effect. Thanks for doing tests so we can get insight without spending the money :D
Not even going to comment Paw Paw’s WorkShop review on this product, not even close to realistic, all unicorns farting rainbows :/
I’ve thought about doing a project to create my own purifier. I think with larger filters I could get close to 100% pure air coming out
@@SteveMakesEverything Looking forward to se your results and solutions :D
xTool doesn't talk about the issue of smoke and your health or the burning of retinas on their website or written material when they sell these lasers. In the product literature that comes with the D1 Pro laser there is nothing about the health dangers of the smoke. I see a product liability lawsuit brewing for them in their future. Since they are in headquartered in China, maybe they can get around it. Do a search for why these low cost lasers are not good or safe on CZcams. They market these like you can do it in your living room with your pets and kids watching it without safety glasses. Crazy. xTool has a slick marketing campaign, using CZcamsrs to say good things about their products by requiring them to sign an agreement to say only good things. I guess I fell for it. Run away from laser engravers and find a safer way to make money.