You Didn't Know You Had THIS Choice In Hollow Knight
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2019
- In Hollow Knight there are several choices that you can only make once per save game file. In this video I will let you know all of the things that you can only do once per save game file.
1. To save Zote or Not to save Zote:
If you do NOT save Zote in Greenpath before acquiring the Mantis Claw, he will die in this location and you will get the Neglected Achievement. You will also not have to fight Zote in the Pantheon of the Sage (P3).
If you save Zote, in Greenpath he will later need to be saved in Deepnest. Lastly Zote will show up and be an enemy in the first Trial of the Warrior in the Coliseum of Fools. Beating him will reward the player with the 'Rivalry' achievement.
Once the player has saved Zote in the Coliseum and Bretta the player also needs to have the Monarch Wings in order for a basement in Bretta's house to open. A fight with Zote starts by striking the statue in Bretta's basement with the Dream Nail. By winning you will receive the Dark Romance achievement.
2. To Kill the Nailsmith or Let him Live
First thing you need to do it collect all the pale ore in the game and upgrade your nail to the pure nail: • Hollow Knight- Pale Or...
After upgrading to a pure nail the nailsmith will leave his hut and asked to be cut down. If you go with his wishes you will get the Pure achievement.
If you let the Nailsmith live, you will get the Happy Couple achievement after visiting Nailmaster Sheo. Below is a video on all of that specifically: • Hollow Knight- Don't K...
3. Let Cloth Live or Pass away.
If you do not find cloth in two locations before fighting the Traitor lord in the Queens Garden, Cloth will show up in Dirtmouth (after you find her) and live on.
If you find cloth in the Fungal Wastes and to the left of the Abyss tram station THEN fight the traitor lord, Cloth will help you fight the Mantis lord but will be killed in the process.
There is no achievement related to this.
4. To banish NKG or Fight
First you need to activate the Grimm Toroupe here: • Hollow Knight Grimm Tr...
From there you will need to activate the grim child charm and fight grimm. After that you can chose to power up the Gimm Child charm further and FIght NKG for the Ritual Achievement.
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OR you can banish NKG for the Banishment Achievement
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“If you don’t like hearing Zote grumble, you don’t have to hear it. *You don’t have to hear it **_ever_** again.* “
Morbid but true
@@RelyeaGaming meh even then its not anoying to me i like zote because of the fact that zote is so arogent to hide his uslessnes that he makes himsellf beleive he is a great warior
and the fact is that zote is no fool he knows that things are dangarus but he wants to prove himself wich is why he is captured he wants to be a woriar and save holow nest but he knows that you are gona do it so he hates you for taking his spot he isent a bad person he is just a wanabe hero
But then you don't get to hear "BAKLAVA, BAKLAVA BOOPTIS" over and over and over :D
I let zote die the first time 💀
NO, the real tough choise is when you have 1 charm notch left and there's two options Wayward compass OR Gathering swarm
That’s not tough, it’s always wayward compass
*laughs in Steady body*
Or me early game with fury of the fallen wayward compass and gathering swarm
wayward compass is too op, so i will go with WC, since i can see where the bosses of pantheon are on the map
Wayward compass is soo op
I saved him because I decided to be nice.
this is why my life is so damn hard.
You know what they say about nice guys
@@RelyeaGaming You absorb the problems 🕳🏌️♀️
@@RelyeaGaming I saved him from the vengeful fly King, was that a bad choice ?
@@dhdfireblazer this is my first run through hollow knight and started off blind, i am regretting choices too
@@dhdfireblazer youre fine dont worry about it
Killing Zote is a tough one... on the one hand: you kill another conscious being unnecessarily, on the other hand, you kill Zote
that is what I am trying to say
it feels like I'm the only one who likes zote lmao, I enjoyed reading all his precepts some of them are actually good and some of them are really funny like the one where he says that there is a mysterious force constantly pushing us towards the ground and it took me like 10 seconds of confusion to realize my guy didn't know what gravity was lmao
Zote is the best, he may be weak, but he tries
LAUGHING ISNT HARMLESS IS LIKE A DESIESE ONE PERSON LAUGHS AND A COUPLE OF SECONDS LATER ECERYONE IS LAGHING IF YOU that one is the funniest but i still hate zote
So does breffa stay on that bench if you don't save zote?
I didn't notice Zote and saw his corpse and thought it was one of those vessel corpses you see every where
Once you strike his nail that is how you get the achievement
@@RelyeaGaming does the switch have achievements?
@@sp88der it does
@@sp88der yes
Jiggwypuff hollow knight specific achievements
I saved Zote not even realizing it was an option to let him die :(
Sounds about right
In the same boat here.
Same
Me to mate
I made a mistake :( he should be dead damnit
I never met Cloth because when I saw her emerging from the ground in Fungal Waste I thought "Oh sheet, an optional miniboss, let's run from here."
lol. She shows up in more places
@@RelyeaGaming I just found her in the Ancient Basin, guess she is doomed to die to the Traitor Lord now...
i always wondered what happened to her, because i never stuck around to fight her either and now i dont see her anymore, but i guess i will lol
@@lotusluminance5872 its not the worst fate. Better than being sad forever.
Same
you forgot, the hardest choice is standing back up after sitting with quirrel
Absolutely! I had to take a screenshot, it's my wallpaper now. I didn't want to leave him there. Everybody dies in this game! Is it just me or is it a bit depressing?
Absolutely, I loved quirrel and how we got to fight side by side during uumuu
@@crayzeebethee7662 Same! Glad I’m not the only one who did that, for some reason, wherever he chooses to sit is always so picturesque.
took me more than 30 minutes to even stand up
then i just stood there by him
then i sat back down
then i tried to leave but couldn't bring myself to jump to leave
took me in total probably 50 minutes to leave
im sure there are people who took longer, but thats just how it be
Standing up after sitting with quirrel in the city of tears is so hard, he sometimes looks at the knight like he is the only company he has, it's like going to dirtmouth and not talk to the elder bug
Call me a bad person but I feel like bringing cloth to the traitor lord is the better choice. She wanted to be brave, she wanted to fight a strong enemy, but when you choose to save her she is just sad because she never accomplished her goals, besides you can talk to her in a ghost form and she is just as happy as ever that she overcame her fears and defeated a strong foe!
I totally agree with you. I don’t think you are a bad person for that.
I just wanted to see her dead
she actually wanted to die
but in a brave way.
Sooooooo no,you are not a monster.
@@pedromateus3056 omg lol
Plus it’s easier
In defense of letting Cloth die, she seems pretty satisfied with herself. Plus how the fight ends is worth it.
Yes, I agree with you. Letting cloth face her fears is the way to go
@@RelyeaGaming mhm. Plus have you talked to her ghost after the fight? It's pretty awesome. Surprisingly happy ending.
I actually didn’t dreamnail Cloth’s ghost to pay respect to her. If it wasn’t for her I couldn’t beat the Traitor Lord
@@christosx.755 she keeps fighting as a ghost
@@lecopshavefoundme9461 oh I wouldn't dare dreamnail her ghost. I was just so happy after talking to her ghost, definitely my 2nd favorite minor questline in the game.
I mean, Zote is an idiot. But he made me laugh so hard when I fought him in the Colosseum.
For me, that was worth letting him live.
that was the one fun part. that and watching him struggle
I started wheezing and c r y I n g when I saw him in the Colosseum.
@spark I mean he does threaten to kill you after you save him
@spark you sound like you've never met zote
Yeah. He brings some hope that a guy like him is so confident.
I'm no big fan of Zote, but seeing his lifeless corpse there and knowing that you were witnessing his desperate moment and you didn't do anything is...extremely unsettling.
It’s a game
And?
You misspelled satisfying.
Well, I am supposed to be empty after all.
@@haydenlloyd4543 it's called empathy
God, this game is ridiculously deep. An hour in I thought "meh, seems a bit one dimensional".
Boy was i wrong.
I got to the City of tears and thought I must be half way done.... I was wrong
It just keeps pulling you in. The moment I entered city of tears to the nailsmith and the many adventures that eventually looped me back to shortcut. It’s priceless. Still hate deepnest though
@@sniper712 tbh in that regard is the best "metroidvania" ive ever played since super metroid, cause both seemed very simple at first and then slowly it start to absorb you, great level desings, ton of secrets, rewarding difficult areas, and the sense of tension and curiosity to reach that path you cant pass before and discover more and more, and the music/ambience, it hits all these right spots
Sh!t i feel you im 50 hours in and no even half way because i didnt find out about Relyea until much later lol
@@RelyeaGaming wait I thought the city of tears was the end of the game......oh boy what have I gotten myself into
I killed the Nailsmith bc I had no idea it was possible to spare him.
Started a new game just to not kill him.
Thats what I like to hear
Good for you I would’ve left regardless of his wishes. There’s nothing gained in death for awesome like nailsmith. They’re respectable on par with mantis lords
I just did what he asked for...
I killed him because I confused the buttons for attack and dream nail for a second.
@@Spencer-wc6ew ...ouch
I'll never forget giving the nailsmith the peace he desired to then find out he could've lived on to find a beautiful friendship with the paintmaster :'(
You are just going to start over
You sure its friendship?
@@neiriellemacedo371 im not sure
@@RelyeaGaming im just gonna make a new save file and make sure he lives instead
it’s more than a friendship lmao
*During my first playthrough, I just accidentally killed the nailsmith... I didn't even talked to him.. I didn't knew you can kill him... I was just swinging my nail after the upgrade like I do after getting a nail art.. Lets just say I was sad for a couple of days*
Feels bad
Something similar happened to me, I pressed square to talk to him because a game I was playing a lot at the time used square to interact...
I honestly prefer the ending where cloth is killed by the Traitor Lord, cause what she wanted was to be with Nola again. And she is in the dream realm
She’s so happy in her dream realm
It’s sad but overcoming fear and dying a true warrior death is both sweet and heartwrenching. Least she can dream happy now. 😭
i accidently dream nailed her and absorbed her essence ._.
@@skullsavage6973 good, you made the best decision ever
Here's a cookie 🍪
@@ojaskumar521 I have lived a life of sin
bruh i didn’t even see him struggle I just heard screaming and I didn’t mind it
Lol, that’s savage
Me after seeing all of the decisions I didn’t know existed:
*I have seen the errors in my ways*
Does that mean you'll become a capitalist spy now or what?
@@theknight8197 _Perhaps_
Same...
But the saddest event to happen is not being able to save Myla from the Radiance's influence. :((((
Well, if you won't kill her, and then just defeat the Radiance, you technically saved Myla.
@@Calidorful Really? ;')
@@whotookmypuddingcup4131 technically.
You can prevent her infection by going without taking crystal heart and defeating the boss that slams on the ground in city of tears. Proceed to beat the vessel and them shell be ok. 👍
don't kill the soul master, don't get desolate dive, and don't get the crystal heart. do a spike pogo to get isma's tear.
I'll let him to live IF HE SHUTS UP IN DIRTMOUTH
Haha. That would be nice
I won the first fools' colliseum challenge before rescuing Zote in Deepnest. Now he sits and grumbles in his cage, and we've never fought.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 oh my gosh that is funny but the truth!!!
You can do the first trial again and fight him (sorry this is late)
@@0LoneTech God thats brilliant! xD
am i the only one that lets zote live because i really like him? yeah he’s super selfish and into himself, and that makes my game super spicy and delicious
He just killed me too much in the pantheons. Other than that I like the little guy
Yeah, and if you let him live you can kick his ass personally to let him know you hate him!
He has the tsundere vibes to me. Deep down he cares (about something), but his shitty childhood made his skin too thick to let it show. I'd call him tolerable because of that.
I really like him too. There’s a pretty hidden piece of dialogue I stumbled upon though that gave me a greater affection towards him. If you dreamnail Zote during your fight with him in the Trial of the Warrior, one of his thoughts concerns him trying to earn the admiration of his father. It just gives him a little more character development
He had a morbid childhood, so he compensates with his false bravado. It's sad, but he's so happy talking to Bretta. It's annoying yes, but it's nice too.
Saving Zote, he steals your girl
"I made a mistake..."
I have to fight Gay Prince Zote
"I made a big mistake."
He appears in Pantheon.
"I MADE A BIG MISTAKE."
"Gay Prince Zote", lmao.
Just in case you didnt know if you didnt fight GPZ even if you saved zote he will not be in the pantheons
Oh shiii i killed him too
I think i will restart the game just cause I saved him
I saved him in greenpath but didn't save him in deepnest yet so he is stuck there, and he didn't appear in the colosseum
It's true, I didn't recognize that a lot of these were choices you could even make. When Cloth joined me for the Traitor Lord battle, I still remember how happy and inspired it made me feel. It felt awesome to be fighting alongside a friend for once, and I was so proud of her for overcoming her fear.
When the Traitor Lord struck the fatal blow against her, it actually made me tear up, and I considered going back to my last save point to see if it was possible to save her. But then I left the room, entered again, and talked to her ghost. And she was so ecstatic about what she'd done, it made me smile all over again.
Now that I know what the alternative is, I think I'll deliberately make that same choice again, whenever I next visit this game.
if zote die
then knight will have a thicc bug gf
Yeah, she never leaves if she never meets zote
@@RelyeaGaming but if you defeat all the dreamzotes, is she again a Fan of the knight or not?
@@Eldex0 no she just leave and look for something new
@Garett Crook Maybe we will see her in Silksong
Well she is annoying
GUYS I DID PATH OF PAIN IM SO HAPPY
Congrats! Well done
Path of pain is so easy it only takes me a couple of thausand tries
@@kk-xr5gr jokes on you!!! it only took me several hundreds of times!!!
i keep purposefully not completing it so I can revisit it whenever I want, it's one of my favourite parts of the game tbh
It took me 2 hours to get to the last stretch. Then it took me 5 more hours to get through there😵
“or if you’re a horrible monster, you can strike him down with a spell”
me who pressed B one too many times after trying to exit my inventory from admiring my pure nail: * nervous sweating*
There actually is one more hidden choice (though I don’t think there is a achievement attached to it, is that you can choose to let hornet mourn the loss of her mother. To do this, you need get the kings brand before destroying the seal of Hera the beast, that way Hornet is not stuck at her post in the cast off shell, and comes and sits by the bed where Hera had once lain.
Oh wow I didn't even know she would have had to stay there if I hadn't done that.
No yeah I didn't even know about the dream nail until after I got Shade Cloak, so that would have been impossible for me not to do.
Not having zote steal bretta? Zote dying and not having to bother us in dirtmouth PURE EUPHORIA!
And not fighting him in the pantheons. Wins all around
@@RelyeaGaming wait really no price zote! I was stuck on the 3 Pantheon for 12 hours....
Zote is important.
He sounds funny and when he sings the main theme it's perfect.
@@rustyideas7558 you...you have not experienced the ten candles the pain the ridicule the hatred of zote.
I let Zote live and fought the big vengefly cause I’m a soul hoarder :P
I'm happy I didnt hit the nailsmith, it was cute to see him painting with sheo
That was a really awesome scene
@2071Johnny why?
@Jay C
You heard of the Forest fanfic?
@@JustAGamerPerson What is that?
@@akshatyadav8434 A twenty one pilots fanfic famous for being very... scarring.
I think it's kinda sweet that you always refer to it as "passing away" rather than dying, just thought it was randomly considerate and had to drop a like on the video haha
I’m glad you picked up on that
That's because he's a pussy and saying the word die is scary
Me: *Decides to help Zote*
Zote: *Becomes a douche and steals my girl*
*Could this be what it feels like to be a pushover?*
yes
Don't save him in deepnest and everything will be fine except for his BLABBERING
9:38-9:40
“If you want to get all the achievement,sometime that is what you’ll have to do.”
Me:No Cost Too Great.
Exactly
Omg the pale king was talking about anchivement!
@@rubystickmc8354 ULTIMATE PLOT TWIST!!!!!!
When i was going through my play through i was rushing out of the nail smiths house and accidentally hit the shade soul button and killed him
Biggest regret....
Accidental murder huh?
@@RelyeaGaming I do it a lot. I'll dream nail something like the Mantis' (after gaining the respect of their Lords) & press A to close the text, forgetting it's not one of those text boxes.
Also, sometimes my Shade Soul just launches itself after text boxes. I don't know why.
Don't even kill him with the nail? The disrespect.
i accidentally killed zote on my first playthrough. i came across him and thought i couldn't beat vengefly king so i said "i'll save him later"
somehow, literally like 20h later, i came across the area again and found zote dead. at this point i had COMPLETELY forgotten about him.
haha thats awesome
same
Ya know, that’s what happened to me with Bretta… I couldn’t figure out how to get to her and so completely forgot her until way later. So I never got to see her fangirl over the Knight :/ Zote was already in Dirtmouth by this time…
@@TheFunPop what happens to Bretta?
@@flopsnail4750 nothing but if you want bretta to be happy then let zote die because he will tell here lies and make her depressed
Why you don't want to save Cloth:
1. She wants to overcome her fears and fight strong enemies such as the Traitor Lord
2. She wants to reunite with Nola (dead partner) in the afterlife
3. There is no route (I couldn't find one) you can get Mantis Claw and thus progress in the game without passing the area where you meet Cloth
Meeting her second time triggers whether she will live or not so you can save her without meeting her in ancient basin as that's when she gets confidence to be brave
So
We save Zote, because he will allow to get a brand new bossfight & essence.
We do not kill the Nailsmith, because he is cool.
We do not banish the Grimm Troupe, because:
1) No good reason for banishing them.
2) Bossfight with NKG is cool, no one wants to lose it.
We kill Cloth, because we just kill all enemies and accidentally save Cloth in Basin.
She will not be sad tho, good thing.
That sums it up pretty well
Save her from Ancient Basin is better than leaving her.
Денис Герасимов if you banish the troupe you get literally the best charm in the game the hell?
Mr. Dank mantis lords are better gf because 6 bug tiddies are better than 2 bug tiddies
Reason not to banish Grimm troupe: you will lose your little Grimm Child! O^O
The crying bug that says "oh!" When ever you walk by is so adorable!
I know right!
Her name is Bretta and she appears in dirtmouth after you save her in the fungal wastes, after which she will develop a huge crush on you. If you save zote then Bretta will start to get a crush on him instead leading to the Grey Prince Zote fight.
It’s a good bug
@@beebityboop correct
@@RelyeaGaming it's a simp hug. That what it is
Soooo i like made a "peaceful" save as i saved almost everyone, except cloth (may the radiance rest her) and now i have to make a save where i yeet everyone for achievements
you have to save them all
@@RelyeaGaming I'll also do that
"Yeet everyone for achievements"
I never liked Zote. I wanted to leave him there in my first play through but my brother wouldn't let me. After I learned more about him throughout the game, I was more convinced that he deserved to die back in the first encounter. So in my second play through, I finally just let him be and think: 'He is not strong enough to save himself and he needs to learn that the hard way.'
But when I came back to get the achievement and saw his body and nail something came over me. I believe it was a wave of guilt. He died because of me. I murdered him.
you didn't murder him, you just didn't notice him stuck in the vengefly king's mandibles
first time i played the game i left zote to die cuz i didnt even know he was there lol
big lol
I only saved him to get an entry for the Hunter's Journal. Then I just left him in Deepnest, because CORPSE CREEPERS!
I saved him because i tought he was cute, harmless and would pay me back if i saved him. oh how wrong i was...
@@idkwhatimdoing5268 first time I saw the corpse creepers I thought “LITERAL SPIDERMAN. *SHOOT IT* “ and just spammed vengeful spirit until it died
There's one more you've missed:
Killing Myla or not killing myla
Myla is an NPC in the caves found before the main entrance to the Cave Peak, she's a cute little miner that is singing a song, as the player collects spells, Myla will get infected and will become a violent Miner Husk
If you decide to kill her you get 10 geo and you'll hear her cry aloud before dying, if you don't, Myla is alive but will try to kill you as the infection got to her...
Killing myla or not does not lock you out from anything in the game. It is not on the same level as banishing Grimm or letting zote die.
You can have her live until she becomes infected and kill her in the same game file.
Chosing to banish Grimm locks you out from defeating NKG
Ik it isn't on the same level, but killing her leaves you sad :c
Yeah, I knew by the way she began to act she was turning, and I couldn't bear to kill her. She's one of my favorite NPC's, important or not.
It’s so painful to see her. I had never had an idea about the infection before, but I noticed that she started to change .. There’s a phase when she still didn’t attack you, but stopped talking to you or singing , just mumbling to herself.. I think maybe that’s after I received desolate dive.. gaining the possible way to access the crystal peak. After I entered the crystal peak, she attacked. I didn’t even know what’s happening then but I couldn’t bring myself to kill her. Sometimes I couldn’t kill someone or something even if they give you achievements (so naive, i know it). Later I found out about the infection .. so sad. She’s one of my fav, her voice was like a small child. I let her live, but seeing she lost herself was so painful.
I hope after we got rid of the infection, she’d get better.
I don’t even want to kill the dreamers, they don’t fight back and that make you feel even worse..
I killed her and didnt even think much of it
"If you're a terrible monster, you can hit him with a spell"
I have never heard such a true statment
There's another you didn't mention, saving Leg Eater it's not common but it's an option. If you have you're unbreakable charms on he can smell that they are unbreakable and he'll know that his queen (Divine) is above him and when you go back to Divines tent after talking to him you'll see that Leg Eaters arms/legs are on the ground in front of her
That's why I'm trying to avoid him because imagine going to meet someone just to get eaten
*"The toughest choices require the strongest wills"*
Exactly, and plenty of time to start a new save game file
Thanks 02
*hardest
*after killing zote*
Perfectly balanced as all things should be
I wish I would’ve know about the nail smith before because now I feel bad for killing him
I think both ways are right
Me realizing that she’s and the nail smith are gay
Sheo*
I accidently used vengeful spirit on him when I was trying to save him
video master69 lol
Im not actually sad because cloth died on my save, she dies fighting and when you talk to his soul she's happy :D
Idk why Zote gets all this hate. He’s my favorite NPC. I just love how over inflated his ego is. It’s hilarious to watch him live his life as a hero in his own story lol I want to the little weirdo to live out his dreams
I didn't even know cloth could be spared 😭
Glad I could help
@@RelyeaGaming
Can the same be said about Myla? If you never visit Myla, she lives?
@@matijamaksan4344 nope, she'll still get infected (I think so at least)
@@matijamaksan4344 if you search for it,you will find a duud that did this.
(100% save with myla alive)
but i don't know how he did it
I was talking to my cousin about it (he ended up with cloth alive and I ended up with her dead) and we both kinda agreed that my ending was better. She’s much happier having died a brave warrior’s death, than she is living in dirtmouth. If you talk to her ghost after talking to the white lady, she seems really happy and proud of herself
When there was the option to save zote in my second run I leaved him to die without a second thought
Haha, same here
He is the only comic character in the whole game...
Dung defender is pretty comic, although also one of the more heart wrenching storylines..
@@matesajben5274 i dont CARE, if hes a comic character or anything, he genuinely makes me ANGRY
Same. It was a big mistake to fight GPZ when im struggling on the 3rd pantheon...
Dammit I lost cloth for all that exploring I do... 🥺🥺
What do you mean you lost her?
Relyea means she’ll die that warrior death when I get to traitor lord. Alas it’s a tough choice but I’d be honored to send traitor lord to his demise and giving dear cloth a proper send off. She will not be forgotten oh brave warrior that was umpired by nothing but a tiny hollow vessel. 🙂 Edit: it means I already saved her and talked to her in fungal waste. The price of getting my pale orb... 😢
personally i like the end where cloth helps with the traitor lord fight
shes searched for so long for a battle so she could die an honorable death and be reunited with nola, and the fight with the traitor lord turns out to be the battle shes been looking for
its sad to see her go, but shes finally back with nola and she died a truly brave and honorable death
so in a way, it was worth it
Killing the Nailsmith is just wrong... He has so much to live for...
But the achievement!
I’m just here to give info
@@RelyeaGaming I was about to go away and leave him but the I pressed the wrong button. Dash, and I had sharp shadow and he fell to his death. He wasn’t even struck by his nail. Then I put a marker down to remind myself of him )-;
I could see it going either way. This may sound dark, but there are people who give their whole lives to a single passion, and don't feel the same in any other field. Eventually, they dread living life and end up in a depression because they have already done what they wished to do. That's how I saw the nailsmith, as someone who wished to end his life quickly without having to dreadfully live life with no purpose.
I feel bad because I didn't even hesitate, I thought that him fulfilling his biggest goal ever and then wanting to feel the power of his beautiful creation was enough for me to strike him down, I had no idea he could have lived a happy life again :(
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there are a handful of achievements that can only be obtained by making one choice vs another. Did you get all of the achievements in this video by playing 2 save game files?
Nope But I'd Love to delete ZOTE from Hollow Knight.
Got all achivements exept for the 5th pantheon
Saddest Save File :
Let Zote Die ( thus preventing Bretta from Leaving Dirtmouth )
Kill the Blacksmith ( leaving the Sheo alone )
Banish the Troupe ( It is a good thing but you won't get to upgrade the Fragile Charms if you haven't before the Banishing and you'll have Nymm ruin the Dirtmouth Theme with his music layer )
Don't let Cloth fight and defeat Traitor Lord ( thus letting her live on without much accomplishment )
Yup
Relyea I’ll be doing that soon
I've watched two of your videos now and I just want to say very impressive with the work and effort you put into your videos. Thank you for your time.
Thank you. I tried my best
My current save actually has an interesting situation with Zote. I saved him initially, then completed the Trial of the Conquerer for the charm notch, THEN I saved Zote in Deepnest. He is now trapped in the cage below the Coliseum of Fools. So I guess I have the choice to redo the ToC again to defeat him and send him to Dirtmouth, or just let him rot in that cage forever lol.
Anyone who hasn't beaten NKG yet, seriously don't banish. The carefree Melody is an awful charm, and it replaces grimmchild which is actually a very good charm. Plus you miss out on NKG which even though it is insanely difficult, it is still one of the best bosses in the game in my opinion. Plus nymm (the guy who gives carefree Melody) ruins the dirtmouth theme and replaces it with bagpipes. Carefree Melody is a VERY low percent chance of blocking, and you have to get hit quite a few times for it to work. It's just much wiser to kill NKG. Plus I think if you kill him instead of banishing, the unbreakable charms NPC leaves with them, but if you kill she stays.
I have beaten nkg it was hard but worth it
I agree with all of this, I don’t think banishment is a good idea
Greg Boing Maybe I’m just bad but carefree melody saved my life many times,and you can fight with NKG after at godmaster dlc,so banishment is not that bad.
However,fully upgraded grimmchild is very good and the title card at the start of the battle is unforgettable.
So I think playing the game several times is the best choice.
@@gameralper4873 I guess but the chance is really low and you have to get hit a few times for it to activate. I still think fully upgraded grimmchild is much better. It I guess it's your opinion
I think the only reason why choosing to banish the troup is even a reasonable option is because you can still fight nkg right away in godhome. Thank god you don't have to get up to him in pantheon of hallownest to unlock his statue.
Wow I didn't even know about the one with zote or cloth, Though cloth died when I played but I'm ok with that because she died a hero and she was happy to fight. But if cloth doesn't die she would be sad in dirtmouth. I also didn't decide to banish the grimm troupe because NKG was to fun to banish ;)
Glad I could teach you something new
I saved zote on my first playthrough because I thought "Oh, maybe if I save him, he'll reward me and maybe even help me on a boss". Instead he stole bretta from me (which made me incredibly sad because she was the only one who truly loved the knight, even if it was only for saving her) and made her think I was a monster, made me fight grey prince zote, and made the pantheon harder. The only thing that I liked was the sensation of beating him to a pulp in the colosseum.
Me: trying to save everyone and make everyone happy
Zote: how dare you let me live
well. ive doomed cloth to die. time to start a new playthrough
I think that was the better choice becouse than she will have a heroic death and becomes the fighter she wanted to be
I’m just happy I could help inform you
@@RelyeaGaming ugh I didint kno she could come fight with you... At least she is in Dartmouth now
Killed Zote accidentally, I don’t even remember finding the room with him until 30+ hours in I found his body and got a notification telling me I accidentally killed a guy I didn’t even remember meeting. I’m not gonna try Godmaster cause I have no skills, so I kinda wish I had saved him for the comic relief lol
Isn’t that something. You got an achievement for killing someone you don’t remember haha
first time I saw Zote getting clapped by the Vengefly King I screamed “HEY! PUT THAT MAN DOWN” slashed him in the face and regretted the fight
Cloth was my favorite traveling npc aside from Cornifer. She had an interesting arc throughout the story if you care to find her. She starts off a chipper and friendly fighter who has big plans, then you meet her in Deepnest where she’s now doubting her capabilities, and then in the ancient basin she’s still down on herself but gets a spark of inspiration after seeing Ghost’s skills, and then it comes to a close in the Queen’s Garden where she finds her resolve and gets to take down a savage beast only at the expense of her life. I don’t usually like going through storylines where characters I’ve grown to know die when I also have the choice to let them live, but Cloth is the exception. I love Cloth and wish she didn’t die during the fight against Traitor Lord, but she says it herself she lived her life to the fullest and proved she was a brave warrior. And that you were Cloth. Rest easy in my dream nail.
I thought the fact Cloth didn't die to the traitor lord was a glitch and I went about my life like normal, and then when exploring to find more pale ore I ran into her again and realized the err of my ways... hopefully she finds fuller meaning in life like the Nailsmith did... at least I get to play my game and check in on her every time I warp back to dirtmouth! She deserves a rest but also deserves her wife back so... :(
WHo would want Zote alive I made 3 seperate save files to leave him dead 3 times
Lmao. That’s harsh
Hi Relyea, I would like to mention this one: Endings
I got locked out of ending 1 when I acquired the Kingsoul charm. And locked out of ending 4 when I brought the sacred flower to Godseeker.
I made another new game though, to not save zote, to banish Grimm, to spare songstress Marissa and Cloth, to kill Nailsmith, and to get 1st & 4th endings
You are able to get ending 1 and 4 on the same game file if you know what you are doing.
This video goes over all of the things that you absolutely 100% will get locked out of based on your decisions
Achievement:Rivalry
Me: *F* *R* *I* *E* *N* *D* *S*
I realized that Brumm seemed pretty depressed from the ritual so I banished the troupe and I really like the carefree melody. (in god seeker mode even if you banished the troupe in your other game file you're going to get Grimm child no matter what.
Not worth getting carefree melody, it may be worth no damage but if I take it I want baby grimm to help me send double to what I’m fighting, besides
Lucks no in my favor very often
Least I beat pantheon of the sage
I don’t want to rely on that luck either
Relyea I think the game agrees with us because if you start a Godseeker playthrough it gives u grimmchild instead
i love grim child i think of him as my own so i wont banish them
I saved Zote in greenpath , but what if I don't save him in deepnest?
He will stay there forever. He won't die in Deepnest.
He will stay in deepnest but I’m almost certain that he still shows in the pantheons
He only stays in up the pantheon of hallownest not pantheon of the sage
@@RelyeaGaming He won't be in the patheons, if you don't defeat Grey Prince Zote. I tested it.
Can you go back and save him in deepnest,I didn’t see him when I first fell through
Interesting Fact: Another character that it’s affected by a choice that you can make is the Leg Eater. If you wear any of the Unbreakable Charms & talk to him, he will go to the source &..... (NOTE: This choice becomes impossible if you decide to banish the Troupe)
Good call!
Relyea, can you please give me some tips on dealing with the last 3 foes of the Pantheon of Hollowiest? Any charm combos?
I saved Zote once, found him in a need of help again in the hidden city. I made sure to watch him suffer and walked away.
If you save him, you could beat his ass in the trial of fools
Zote: Hate him, but can't just let him die
Grimm: Love that guy, and also for Nightmare king just GIT GUD
Me: reads comments saying if you let him die you would get a bug gf
Also me: angry black kid.png
facts
I actually let Zote live because I thought he’d change, and then I realized I made a big mistake. I didn’t want to let him die, so I saved him, but now I realize the Pantheon is going to be hard for me now. I’m hoping he will at least stop grumbling in Dirtmouth once Bretta leaves him after I defeat Grey Prince Zote for the fourth time.
That was pretty much my story too
all ur hollow knight videos are great, thanks man
If you save zote the first time you have a second chance for letting him die in the deepnest. Also you cannot have the first ending once you have the void heart.
Zote will never die in deepnest.
And you can get both the first ending and the voidheart ending in one save game file.
It is impossible to save zote and let die, save the nailsmith and let die, save cloth and let die and banish NKG or bet him
Honorable mention: If the Kingsoul becomes the Void Heart, it cannot be turned back. However, only the Kingsoul supplies Soul.
All of your videos are invaluable for playing this game, Thank you!
imagine after silksong they make HK 3 where zote is the main character like that is gonna be so damn fun
Zote is hilarious! I finally stopped reading after his 41st precept, but was mad entertained about his rules!
I will have to remember to not save Zote. His fight in the Pantheon gets me every time
He is the worst
When I first started playing a few days ago I saved zote but when I listened to him I found out he was really salty so I thought to myself, “I should have left him there, since tough guy said he can end anyone or smth like that.” but realizing that if I would have left him and he would die, makes me really glad of my decision.
What I love about this game is that little things are connected and the game isn't linear. I can fight whomever I want, there are some limitations to where you can go depending on items and skill but it's always my choice
thanks for making this vid it will help me a lot with the game x
I guess Cloth is doomed for me now. Gonna go fight Traitor Lord
Good luck my friend
Me: *Learns you can kill Zote*
Zote: hey what are you doing in that menu
Me: *starts game over and does everything then goes to vengefly king and see Zotes body*
Me:
*Y E S*
Feels good
On my first run I ended up going full murderer, because I never noticed zote, the smith because I was only doing what I was told, cloth because I saved her on accident while exploring before I realized saving her condemned her to death, the grimm troupe, while I did let them stay, technically keeping him there is quite literally allowing a demon to reside in your world, which might as well be death, plus I fed leg eater to the charm lady (though I did that regardless)
Oh Lordie, just started playing this game what did I get myself into lol. thanks for all the tutorials.
Wait... Is there a way to skip the Traitor Lord so cloth lives or is the boss required to beat in order to move on ? ;-;
Nk Lendore you don’t need to beat the TL in order to move on and beat the ending of the game. However this game has multiple endings.
_And_ in order to get to some of them you need to talk to the White Lady. And you can’t talk to her until after you beat the TL.
The only way to beat the TL and save Cloth is to beat the TL *before* talking to Cloth after saving her in The Ancient Basin.
I could go into more detail on how talking to the White Lady affects the endings of the game but that’s spoilers and I don’t know how much you know or how much you would like to know.
What wild storm said
Oh ok..Thank you both !!!
Happy to see your lovely face. Really appreciate all the Hollow Knight guides you provide.
You are very much welcome!
I’m still on my first playthrough and I’ve met her in the mantis village area and Deepnest. I only went into that direction of Ancient Basin to receive the pale ore. I will now be exploring more of queen’s garden after I make it through the hive and white palace
When I beat the traitor's lord I was shocked. I wasn't expecting an end like that. Especially because traitors lord was a hard one for me. And with the adrenaline of the fight, seeing cloth get stabbed from the heart was really really shocking. But seeing her finish the traitors lord like that was kinda satisfying cus it was the only time we saw her real power.
When I first found Zote being eaten by the vengeful king, I beat it after like 10 tries because I was bad at pogoing and then when I finally rescued him he wasn’t even grateful but now that I know you can just let him die ima choose that every time
i accidentally dream nailed cloth after she died on my first playthrough and i hated myself for the rest of my existence
You set her free
@@RelyeaGaming can we still see her corpse?
@@stevenethanlimanta1080 i think you can see her club where she died
Thx for helping me through that amazing yet very confusing game dude :3
nice one. I wonder: did you try to replay the game and save every character possible (Mila,...)? is there a possibility that it will change the end?
Oops, just spoiled some stuff lol! I just started playing hollow knight today and I just defeated Hornet, I saw your video on how to defeat her and it really helped, thanks! However it still took way too long.
That fight has a pretty big skill jump compared to everything before it. That is normal. The game is just getting started. I’m excited for you.
Let me know if you ever get stuck anywhere
HAH, like saving ZOTE was a "TOUGH" choice!
It really was
How long do I have to save him? After going to Deepnest once I’ve been avoiding going back. Will he be there for me if I return or is it a waste of time? Thanks for all your informative videos!
The only reason you would banish the Grimm troupe, is because you were a big baby and couldn't beat nkg. They added the banishment option, is so that people could complete the dlc and not complain that he's too hard.