Demolition Day At The Church | Occupancy Permit Begins
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- čas přidán 16. 02. 2022
- When you apply for a building permit, you have to submit a plan that describes what you're going to do to the structure. But since I didn't know what to expect when I started gutting the inside of my church, I decided to go in reverse and devise a plan after discovering what I had to work with.
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I love how you structure your reno videos like an episode of a dramatic mystery. I was on the edge of my seat, mumbling, "where is the vent?!"
It was the dramatic music for me
Jeff: I bought a church to renovate and convert to a home. It’s sounds complicated but it’s pretty simple.
God: We’ll just see about that…
Man, I feel like this is my house when I try to do projects. I have to fix 10 other things before I do the project I actually want to! Good luck Jeff!
Cheers Frank!
Same thing with my 1950-built home. I've had the same bedroom apart for 11 months. In my defense, i work 60+ hours per week so it's sometimes difficult to prioritize projects.
Exactly
@@AndyTrent90 if you're working 60 hours a week and still can't afford to pay someone to remodel the bedroom, then what's the point of working so much?
@@clintstathis that's not really the point. Aside from contractors being booked months out and charging a premium, I'm a truck driver; 60+ hours per week is normal for us. The paychecks are wonderful, i just don't have as much time as someone who only works 40.
I absolutely love this video. It shows the difficulty we all go through as new home owners and it’s great that you don’t hide any of it!
Too many shows make remodeling easy. They don't show all the frustrations of the problems that inevitably arise. I'm glad that you do so. I've remodeled some homes. There are ALWAYS surprises and setbacks that you have to figure out. Remodeling is 3x the effort of new construction.
Cheers to keeping it real John!
Nice to see a professional deal with the unexpected. Most YT wouldn’t show the problems.
As a plumber in the UK I never knew about your requirements to domestically vent waste pipes, we only vent the main 4 inch vertical waste pipe. That looks a nightmare! Happy renovating. ATB.
I really appreciate the background music when Jeff is looking for the vent, while a voice inside my head is saying "that vent on the roof is fake" 🙂
This is the story of real life remodels !!! I appreciate your struggle and feel your pain ! 😄👍🏼
So true!
Thank you for showing the problems you can encounter in an old building!
My house actually has no vents either so I'm very invested on the upcoming videos of the solution!
every video. I truly admire your attitude. It makes you a great host, but shows what a great guy you are too. Second: I am so impressed with your family values- how you relate on screen with love, laughter, and determination. And finally: Congratulations on your courage. Committing to your vision, while handing the reality of financially supporting your commitments is huge. I am happy for you and the family, but mostly I am amazed.
Thank you for reaching out to us with your talent to teach us, and inspire us, to “go for it”! You are a delightful soul. Lorraine in Montana,(with new tools and a old house, and the belief that if you keep teaching me I too will repair, improve, and enjoy the journey)🙋♀️
Finally been waiting for you to get back to some construction videos! Miss them! Keep up the great work you have helped me so much!
Oh no! We are all getting a education, which will be helpful to us when we find our mistakes to fix. Thank You for sharing.
Max great job on the tense spy thriller music when Jeff was doing the exploration. Really set the tone!
Hi Jeff. First: thank you for your channel. I am learning from every b
10:50
It looks like they wanted to be able to pick up the wall with a forklift. 😄
Great series! Good luck with the renos and keep these vids coming!!
Thanks! Will do!
Long-time viewer and member of the DIY Forum.... one of my most favorite vids because I can SOOOO relate to what Jeff went through... the frustration, the shake your head give me a break it just isn't supposed to be this of it all !!! (sigh)... Well, this is why we are all here :-) ... to share the pain and the journey!
Thank you for showing us the reality of major jobs like this one, in an old house with prior renos. I feel the pain and frustration in every exploration hole you made witch lead to even more frustrating discoveries.
Will you be showing the attic part ?
It's like an episode of Unsolved Mysteries. The music really helps too.
it started!! Lets go guys!
I found my self yelling at the screen: "The pipe is a lie!"
I love these videos where even Jeff is surprised by what he have to face....
This episode of Reality Renovision is sponsored by, Under Armor the OSHA approved shoe of the DIYER. LOL loved watching you kick that counter in with your shoes, reminds me of myself!
Kudos to whomever did the music! This was basically a drama with the plumbing being the protagonist.
I feel your pain. I am 2/3 way thru a Kitchen remodel on a 1960's built condo. It felt like every wall I opened had something silly inside. I even had part of a tree branch as a brace for electrical conduit and behind one of the original cabinets a hole bashed in the drywall big enough to stick your head thru and about 1/4 bag of petrified pistachio shells inside. I think one of the builders was having a bad day and decided to take a snack break.
Woohoo let’s rock and roll!
Post the uncensored version please🤣. Nobody goes through that many unsuccessful discoveries without speaking a little French. HA Bet the ginger ales were well deserved that evening. Jokes aside, it’s it’s good to see realistic content that doesn’t glamorize a DIY project. Hats off to you.
My 50s ranch only had 1 owner before us. He was really in to using reclaimed wood as framing for his projects. The inside of my basement walls is mind boggling. And if I need to explore it's all lath and plaster.
My husband and I thought this was so funny but we understand your pain! We are watching your videos to attempt remodeling our basement that flooded and previous owners never made it very waterproof. We discovered they built walls on top of the carpet so while most of the carpet is pulled up, there are still strips under walls and studs that we have to get out because they are probably wet or have mold. It's insane someone thought that would be okay to do!
Best video on the internet. Anyone else enjoy Jeff smashing the whole church down to find that vent stack?
Oh Jeff Jeff Jeff !!!
Old houses and their (often unpleasant) surprises...
At our house, they have hidden most of the junction boxes in the wall which isn't allowed. Several holes later I have found most of them...
Churches can be terrible to work on as they have (at least in my experience) a tendency to have a series of reno jobs often done by "the handy guy" who can do it, but probably won't do it right.
As much as I know this is not what you wanted to find on this project, this is the kind of job I like to see. My house is almost 50 years old and spent part of its life as a rental so every job I do includes a surprise.
Hey folks my friend need a road map to the roof 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Some projects just call for "beast mode".
great video ..
Thanks John! Cheers!
Yes that how you do demo!! You’re normally so delicate taking things apart.😂😂😂😂
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Did you try looking down the vent pipe with a flashlight before starting?
Feeling your pain Jeff! I made far too many "exploratory" holes searching for my elusive vent stack... only my walls are log siding, not drywall (for that cabin look)...
I made certain to have some Stella Artois on hand for the efforts. Cheers buddy 🍻, hold the line as well 🇨🇦 🚛 🚛
Thanks for taking us on such a wild ad-Vent-ure!! Have you tried a water divining rod?🤣😂
The counter & cabinet seemed to be built well, just judging by the effort to demoing it...was a great source of knowledge, someOne def. blessed you!
I'm no carpenter and barely have an ounce of handy in my whole body...but my favorite tool for demolition of just about anything is the "reciprocating saw or sawzall". He was wacking and prying away at that cabinet while I would have been happily sawzalling' my way thru to the next item on the demo' checklist.
Actually....all that smacking to demo the lath and plaster on a wall is how I had my first real bout of carpal tunnel and tennis elbow. that took 3 weeks to heal. So don't swing a sledgehammer like you are Paul Bunyan the tree cutter unless you are in good shape. Also many people especially women who haven't swung a sledgehammer before can very easily hurt themselves not just from the tool but when you hit a board and it comes flying back in your face with all the nails still in them.
So I suggest many first time renovators watch some videos, talk to experts...or at least watch a few old Hollywood movies like "Money Pit" or "War of the Roses"...where everything goes wrong.
In a real reno of a 100+ year old house....its a dust storm as one prys off the lath and plaster on the walls and exposes lord knows what...pigeon dropping or pest byproducts or pray its not asbestos in there or in the outside siding. Watch out for the thousands of sharp rusty nails and your first tetnus shot after you start bleeding from multiple limbs:) Yeah lots of lead based coats of paint on the doors which you may try to sand until you are blue in the face...and then you give up the idea of historic status. Then wait til your first pool of water in front of the house and the plumber says the leak is on your side of the city property line so you pay the $6,000 to get a crew to repair the broken underground pipe. Etc etc etc. But its all good.;)
Every time I see an episode about the Church, it reminds me of the Tom Hanks movie 'the money pit'.
"We are going to do this.... why did they do that?"
"We will change that.... Why is there no plumbing there?"
"We will make the floor even... wait, the ground is higher here."
:D
That’s the most demolition I have ever seen without finding something. Lol. Great video.
me too! Cheers!
@@REALITYRENOVISION lol.
Hey Jeff, you said the fateful words... this should be simple .... haha never say that out loud... you have taught me so much ... especially that you need patience... renovating has changed my career and my life for the better ... that began with your videos... thanks mate
Murphy's law! Cheers!
This exactly mirrors my home ownership experience 😂😂👍
Vent, vent, where's the vent!? This is from November so I'm assuming this is long since solved, but I am very curious as to where it was eventually found.
more to come on this subject!
Would love to see you run a snake camera down that roof vent and see if it ties into something
A Walabot saved me a lot of time during my remodeling.
Wow your so funny there is so much foam but where are the pipes?😂😂
4:10 Enjoying some lite reading 😂
Cheers!
Oh Jeff i was laughing with you. What a mess. I have those days all the time. Nothing goes as it should. That's why I hate demo day. But this is going to be exciting to watch what you do. I love your laugh. LOL Cant wait...for more of these videos.
Jeff - leave smashing things with a sledgehammer to the home renovation shows..
Also Jeff…
at least i use a small hammer so i don't destroy my mechanical in the mean time.
Wow sound like my house also.
I was waiting for Jeff to pull out the Sawz-All and go crazy ripping walls down. Lol
Stay tuned..
Great stuff! Would you be able to show us what your permitting diagrams look like?
I used a free hand sketch roughly showing the space. Not to scale. just the basic idea! Cheers! Love a small town building office!
You could also scope the pipes and use a locator to find the vent and routes of the pipes. Can probably rent one from home depot. Would still be messy, but different kind of messy.
I like the drywall messy!
I’m praying for you!! 😂
Hey Jeff there is a device called Walabot that you can buy for $90 off Amazon that does 3D image scanning through the drywall. It might help you trace the vent down from the attic downwards.
My wife and I bought a fixer upper 6 years ago. I was making really good time on the renovation: new siding, moved the front door, opened up the living room, new roof etc. then (surprise) I became a dad. The reno has slowed down significantly. I also started a small business on the side. I find little “nuggets” of time to get small things done to keep moving the needle. Someday this will be done.
cheers!
But surprised that no local people have photos of the changes to the church as they were carried out.
Birdy
The title of this video should be "Jeff slowly loses his mind looking for a vent stack."
is there another video to follow this one so we can see all the venting?
Jeff. It looks like youre gonna keel over dude! Take care of yo self
Use a reciprocating saw unless you want a plyometric workout
I'm not convinced that I need one of those wallabot things, but I think it might be useful for Jeff
I live for this show tbh
Cheers!
we need more fun parts where you just destroy stuff. Breaking things is more entertaining to watch and do yourself than building hehe
This video should have been titled *The Search for the Long Lost Stack*
People need to to do more demo with saws. Gives you smaller chunks to work with and you can isolate problems. Just a heads up.
When youre finding mistakes, when do you go down to bare studs? Does the strategey shift to "find all possible issues" before you move forward with getting the renovation project finished?
until you can be confident to move forward ...forward is just a direction leading to certain problems.
Add onto this question: and how to you get your wife to understand that you can't just "put sheetrock up and forget about it"
Poor, Jeff. Sometimes you get to the point that bull dozing it all down and starting over would be better...lol. Keep up the good work. Finding these issues will slow things down but I know you're the man for the job.
Skip forward 3 years and Jeff still hasn't found that up vent pipe. LOL
It looks like you’re going to have fun. Can I help😊😊😊😊
4:33 ahhh you gave me ptsd i had to remove a whole basement and stair case worth of that ugly thin wood veneers! And it smell really bad when you are too cheep to bin it so you burn it in the firepit!
can you go outside and kind of measure where the vent pipe is in relation to the interior so that you have a better idea?
Coulda started searching from the vent pipe running through the attic. Personally, I minimize destruction when remodeling
no worries it's only drywall!
Right, time and money. Then again Im the type to cut level when removing drywall
He doesn’t have easy access to the attic. Has to build up to get to it. This guys patches are like a doctor applying a bandaid. What’s one more hole when your getting frustrated and mid filming.
Now I’m curious about the tweaker/sledge hammer/ pry bar tool he’s using
As for the plumbing, it looks like they were trying to flat rough it. That means tying everything together and using the lavatory as a vent for all of it. Except they forgot to run the lavatory vent up.
It’s always interesting seeing odd stuff other plumbers have done. I’m currently working on whole house add on. A family has a fairly new house. The wife’s parents are building a house that is connected by a breezeway. Not sure how that’s going to work but too each his own. Anyway when the concrete crew was digging their footings they hit a water line. This is on the opposite side of where it was located to enter the house. It turns out this is where the water enters or at least is on of the places it enters. It’s at the water heater which makes sense. The odd thing is there’s a manifold. This is Texas so we have slab houses and common practice used to be to run copper water lines under the slab. You can’t put fittings under the slab so you make big loops to each fixture then connect them in the wall. I’m this case they brought their pipes outside the slab underground and connected them there. I’ve never seen it done this way and I can’t figure out why it’s done this way. The only thing I can think is that if it leaked it would be outside and you wouldn’t have to cut drywall to fix it. Now it’s going to be under the new slab. The only way to fix it properly would be to jackhammer the existing slab and move the pipes up into the wall. They don’t want to do that so instead we’re just wrapping them and leaving them there.
If you ran a hose down the vent from the roof you might hear where it is inside.
My houses twin . Go to fix one and find 3 other problems to be fixed
Do you have an infrared gun that you could use to search the walls? It should pick of variances in materials based on their heat
Aaaand here's where the magic of spray foam ends. All those wires and pipes that get swallowed by the foam look great, but what happens when the next dude tries to remodel it?
exactly. ugh!
That't what I think every time I watch them spray foam electrical wiring on TV.
do you have a thermal imaging camera? they can help in these situations
Where do I get that wrecking bar?!?
you gonna use that wood paneling?
I've encountered a few strange and completely out of code and illegal things done to buildings and houses I've had to work in but I have never seen anything this out of whack!
Church remodeling is notorious for this kind of stuff.
Thank you for these videos. Makes me appreciate that no matter how bad a situation is you can always rebuild.
A big piece of cake.
The epitome of construction work in one video 😅
Cutting corners for the lord 😝
Can Studor vents meet code in Canada? I used them in my remodel here in the US.
looking for a long term solution for all the plumbing going in the lower level. Cheers!
Use a roto tool to cut holes
all you had to do was demo 10 more walls to find the vent, you were almost there
6:57 The suspenseful music is a bit much. I feel like it's an episode of 24 🤣
except I am actually saving the world. LOL
Man I feel your pain but it's always a challenge when renovating a home. Maybe a flur camera may help aid in your search for the vent pipe
ready to rip out the ceiling. Cheers!
Good luck here's hoping you don't find any more surprises
lol now you've done it...
What a disaster! This sounds like it's going to be one of those open every wall situations to fix a multitude of problems.
This guy has never had a real hammer in his hands
seriously...LOL did you just start watching my channel. Back to the basement for you and hopefully mom cooks you dinner!
Dude those guys on TV make it look so easy, What happened?
But they watched 10 years of This old house and Home Time on PBS they know how to do everything, because Norm and the boys showed them how
The first 3 Minutes, Jeff is acting like EVERY other Contractor on YT or T.V.
It is about time!
I understand Drywall, Tile and such, unfortunately when you have 50 nails instead of "say" 10. Life is now real!