5 Pro Tip Hacks When There's No Garage Door Springs
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Things are tough all over. And at the moment the garage door industry is dealing with a shortage in parts, particularly garage door torsion springs. So this video will cover 5 pro tip hacks that might help you get your garage door back up and running when there are no more garage door springs.
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Great topic👍 Very relevant with all that is going on. I found tip #3 very useful. Keep up the good work!!
Ruben! Thank you so much for you continued support. I hope all is going well with you and the family. Hit me up! I'd love to chat with you.
@@sosgds Its not price gouging. When supply decreases everyone suffers. If you can't sell as many springs then you charge more for them. Especially if the replacement cost has or is likely to increase due to supply / inflation.
Great tips/ hacks thanx for doing this video
Thank you Cody!!!!
This videoreally helped Great Knowledge. i was thinking about Extenrion springs i believe on a double door it can still work ok if adjusted right. Oh another sugggestion what about switching from overhead doors to swing out. and garage door openers can still work by openeing and closing them with pushrods. I enjoyed watching the video.😁😁
Hello! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Stay safe party person!
I’ve been looking at your videos and I like them, thing is you’re there I’m here in Florida where I’m having some troubles with my door. Contractor installed this door seventeenth years ago and another had replaced the torsion spring with the same ones, my problem is I’m replacing door opener’s and the most important one is I cannot open the door by myself, two people are more likely to open it.
I currently have a Ryobi belt drive which I was happy with until yesterday the belt was all twisted up, Ryobi is sending me a complete belt drive which I’m happy for, now from what I’ve learned from you is the torsion springs is not the correct ones used for my door because my door has four hurricane reinforcements bars which is 2 1/2 x 4 x 2 1/2 with no insulation and it’s very heavy, I’m wondering what size of spring do you think I should use thanks for your help
Hello! Could you provide me the dimensions again of your garage door? If you're willing to send pictures of your door from the inside that would be helpful too. You can email them to this address. sosgdoservice@gmail.com
Hi I have 7 by 16 garage door and the previous springs on them are yellow, is my replacement springs 207' 2 and whatever the legnth is when I measure the length.
Excellent video....Great suggestions and tips. Any chance you can make a video on how convert from a torqmaster to a torsion spring system?
Thank you! I do have video on a conversion from Torquemaster to Torsion. But I plan on coming out with a POV style video soon on the same subject.
@@sosgds That's awesome! Can't wait to watch it.
Thank you for your very useful videos. I am having some problems. I am trying to convert .250x36x1.75" spring to two 207x2x21.5 springs. Problem I have is , When I wind to full 7and half turns my Garage door shoots up. I cant close it . Should I use same old one or go to some smaller springs. Thanks for your help.
Hello! I believe you got my email for the benefit of the community the spring I would use to convert are .207 1 3/4" 29". Hope this helps.
That is one reason I prefer to upsize my springs. The last ones I installed should last longer than I will.
😅😂😂😂 ... The 100K cycle springs? Oh now that's a party!
I have a Clopay Non insulated 16x7 161 lbs Ez Torsion and it works with just one spring.
December 15, 2023
I do step 1 all the time to achieve perfect balance
Tip 2 I use when I mess up or if I want to get rid of a certain spring
Hahha I will never convert to torquemaster. Thankfully so far we have done a good job on stockpiling springs. It would be funny if I have to convert to torquemaster .
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ... I know you hate Torquemaster but sometimes it's the best to go. Thanks for the support Cody!
hi thanks for the information on the couple of video I watched on your channel it was very informative. I have a broken galvanized .225x1 3/4 30 on the left side and a .225x1 3/4 27 (oiled metal) or the black kind interestingly on the right side, I am about to replace both but the question is; do you think I should go with same spring .225x1 3/4 the 29 length or should I go with 30 inches? I guess the last contractor who was hired by the former owner just stuffed in whatever he had for the money he was Offred or who knows what and now I have different length on each side. I appreciate your feed back.
I've got a door. With a spring on 1 side.that side is pulling stronger..it's leaving the spring side up off the ground.could I move it to center.or buy another spring..
Hello. It would be important to know the details about your garage door before deciding. Does the garage door contractor know the weight? Does he know the brand and model? Is the track assembly a special configuration? These questions might help guide you to know your door better.
With that said, your door might benefit from springs that offer higher cycle life. You can get the answer to these questions then you can make a better decision.
Hello. From what you are describing, the garage door might be suffering from a spring imbalance. Do you have any details about the garage door such as weight, brand, and model?
Hello, Thank you for this video. I was completely in the dark about the shortage of springs and this helped a lot. So I have a standard 7 x 16 non insulated door no windows. I released the operator and weighed it with a bathroom scale and it reads 102lbs. It currently has a pair 207 x 2 x 22 1/2" springs. To save on the cost I'd like to go to a single spring. So do you still recommend a single 250 x1.75 x 33 even though my door is lighter than you mentioned in the video? Thanks again!
Hello. Yes I still work just because the door equation is also based on your door track configuration, drum size, and balance. Thus a single 250 x 1 3/4 x 33 or 34 should do just fine. Hope this helps!
@@sosgds Thank you so much for your reply. All the best!
One other thing, Does the 31 one quarter turns stills apply for tensioning it?
@@johnchitwood6888 My pleasure! I for a 7 foot tall door you should be good with 28 to 29 max quarter turns.
Great info.
Been in the industry for 6 years now.
Where is your local AO?
Hello. Thanks for the support. I'm here in the Southern California area. How about you?
couldnt you over wind the remaining good spring to provide more force or use a stronger spring and under wind it to compensate?
or connect a cable to the top of the door and run some pulleys to the opposite end of the garage and install a counter weight system?
Hello. You can do all sorts of variations but the balance of the door will ultimately suffer.
Those spring shenanigans remind me of video card shenanigans in the computer industry. You can't get reasonably priced cards so people are buying whole PC's just to get the card they want and pulling the card from the new PC.
Everything from stoves to car parts has been hit with shortages. It's not fun anymore.
Love the two springs on the same side, tip. What is wrong with putting the springs on both sides? Seems like the torq tube would twist causing door to be unlevel..
Had 2 old right springs, couldn't get new springs for 2 weeks. Bought center bracket for second r spring. Plan to put r springs on each side. FYI, I have a hollow torq shaft. Door is 7x16 360lbs.
Hello Robert. Thanks for question. In reality there would be nothing wrong with have the springs on same side. The counterbalance spring system would just need to be straight and balanced just a normal configuration.
Yet I do believe your garage door is bit heavier. Thus if you have the opportunity to upgrade the tube to a thicker gauge and go with a higher cycle spring, you should potentially get more efficiency out of your garage door system. Hoe this helps.
@@sosgds sorry, I plan to install the 2 right springs on opposite sides
Ah! So you have two right wound springs (red colored end cone) that you will install on two sperate center brackets?
If I am understanding you correctly, this should work if the springs are rated to balance your garage door.
@@sosgds correct, seems like a more equal load on the torq bar/tube. Can't get the correct springs for two weeks
Thanks
So.
I have a 16x7 insulated and reinforced bars ...
Originally had one big spring.
I ask arrow and someone told me "buy 2/218 springs" ,so I did buy 218/23 pair..
I installed and the right springs broke when I was giving tension to it.
I guess was a bad spring..
but I heard your video and u said 218 was for non insulated 16x7...?
So,with your experience, which springs do I need for my door..?
thanks.....
Carlos From Dallas.
Hey Carlos! How's the weather in Dallas?
Yes I will usually install a pair of .218 x 1 3/4" x 28 on a non insulated garage door with windows. But you can also install a pair of .218 x 1 3/4" x 25 on an insulated door. Yet I don't recommend it because it offers lower cycle life. I would suggest a pair of .225 x 1 3/4" x30's or .225 x 1 3/4" x 28" ... It will also depend of the type of insulated door you have. Hope this helps!
You had me until “convert to torquemaster or extension springs” 😂
If it works for you then good on ya but I haven’t met a single person that will even touch those things. Hell, one guy would be replacing a roller and he’d try like hell to get the homeowner to get a torsion conversion lol
Luckily this spring shortage is coming to an end… it’s still a pita with some of them but it’s better than it was
Hello! I feel ya! I have so many that tell me the same thing here in my area. But like you said ... if it works.🤣
Thanks for the feedback!
Just happened to come across this video. “Price gouging” you guys say. Do you have any idea how much the cost of springs have increased for the distributors and suppliers? Well it just so happens that I own one of the country’s largest garage door spring supply companies. Not like I don’t know what’s going on. Nobody is “price gouging”. Our costs have sky rocketed. FYI Springs are not impossible to find. Our shelves are well stocked and we ship same day. You just need to know where to look but be pre warned, not cheap! Have a great day guys and by the way great job on the video. You come across really well.
Hello Tommy! I appreciate your feedback. So I can only speak of what I am experiencing as a licensed garage door contractor here in Southern California. I have 5 local distributors near me and none of them can sell me a pair of springs. There is a distributor that will sell me one pair ... but all they have are black cone springs as of this date (9/7/2021) I realize that the current status in our industry has created huge price increases everywhere. In fact, I have had to raise my own prices for all repairs I do. But there a number of companies that are well known in my area that have utilized the current situation to take advantage of homeowners in desperate need. Again, I'm simply conveying the new normal that we are living in the So Cal area. But we will get thru this one way or another.
Do you have website? Do you ship nationwide?
"Our shelves are well stocked and we ship same day. You just need to know where to look but be pre warned, not cheap!" Please post your website, Tommy! At this point, springs are unobtanium, and I'm willing to pay whatever...
With mismatched springs do the number of turns have to match on both springs?
Hello. Yes, you want to have equal amount of turns.
We’ve had to use inventory springs for new doors because some of our manufacturers are delivering doors without springs.
Hello Ryan! It's honor sir! What you've mentioned is also happening here in So California. It's a shame but dealer installers are cannibalizing their new door inventory just to keep up with current customer needs for springs. Recently I have installing more Torquemaster Plus to mitigate the shortage in my area. Of course that's only for Wayne Dalton doors. I would love to see you tackle this topic in an upcoming episode. Possible collaboration?
@@sosgds I would love to have you on! I think it would only make my podcast better! Message me to get the ball rolling.
My single spring is a LH wind located on the RH side at centre of bracket. Can I use a RH wind spring and put on LH side. Will it work
Hello. Thank you for the excellent question. No unfortunately you would not be able to use the write wound spring for the left side. It's imperative that you keep the springs on their proper sides. Failure to do so could cause severe damage to your garage door.
I was looking in amazon. LH WIND, 2" DIAMETER, 23" LENGTH WITH .225 WIRE. they don't have any,. My question is. Let me know on each scenario for LH wind
1. Can I go with .218 wire rather than .225 , 25" or 32"
2. Can I go with .250 wire rather than .225
3. Can I use 28" length .250 in lieu of .225 , 23"
4. Can I use 30" length .250 in lieu of .225 , 23"
@@sosgds of course he can its the same thing hopefully you just misunderstood
@@jagsingh507 What's the size the of there garage door? Does it have windows? Is it insulated?
My garage door is super heavy. How do I get it open rom the outside without an army to help. Most loose torsion spring remedy videos assume that you are inside. Help !
Oh no! Sorry for the late response. YOu will need help disengaging the door and lifting of the outside. This can be tricky but it is possible.
I have a 16x7 non insulated sheet metal garage door and no springs, how do I figure out what springs to buy?
Weight.
What kind of garage door opener do you have
Hello. My LiftMaster 3240 screw drive motor is still kicking. It's a workhorse.
I had a spring break the other day, it was a .207*2*23. Will a .218*2*23 work?
Hello. It will depend on the type of garage door you have. Is it insulated? Does it have windows? Is is a 2 car door or single cart door?
@@sosgds 7ft 2 car door, insulated, no windows.
Ok ... You seem to have a standard door. I would go with a pair of .218 2" 29" ... or .218 1 3/4" 33". I'm curious if you have a Wayne Dalton garage door. If your garage door is a 2" think and the insulation seems to fill the thickness of the door, then try a pair of .218 1 3/4" 29". Hope this helps.
@@sosgds thanks. It definitely helps
Do you service canoga park area?
Hello. I do not. It's out of my service area.
What would you do for commercial springs without wait of door?
That's very tough to say. Specifically because commercial doors are much more heavier. Thus it would be important to know the brand of door so that you can guess the weight.
(9-27-2022) Just went through this very situation! (Not "IDEAL"!🙄pun intended) Additional weight and/or additional wait. One spring took 2 weeks the other 3.5 weeks. My door is 255 pounds (I used a Honda scissor jack under a door strut to lift my door so I could weigh it). Oversizing or undersizing springs was not an option for the EZ-Set torsion springs... most are still backordered. I decided to upgrade and replace other pieces-parts while I waited on the springs.
For me, my garage door is my "front door"... so using my actual front door for a month has been very annoying. At least my door was down when my under-rated single spring set up snapped. BLAMO!
Yikes. That is a tough situation. Can you tell me if your garage door is a standard track. Do you know the width and height of your garage door?
@@sosgds Thanks but I have the springs now. That was my wait time. (Underrated spring broke a month ago)
the thing i dont get is when you are measuring the size of the springs. my left spring broke. when measuring the broke one i i get odd numbers. when i measure the one on the right thats still wound u I get .207 x 2 inch by 25 inches exactly which seems to be a common size from what i know. but the broken one i get like .262 by 2 inch by 20 inches which doesnt exist to my knowlege. I am very confused. so i just ordered a set from home depot 207 x 2 x 25 inch. right and left wound. The colors on my mine were red on the left black on the right both yellow on each end. Im pretty confident i got the right stuff. its supposed to be here some time today. I have 2 car garage non insulated no windows. i do not know the weight since i didnt undo the spring yet to know. I cant undo the spring til I have the tools to safely be able to do it that. Its quite frustrating tryin to know just what to get. The job it self seems pretty easy i feel like the hardest part is just getting the right parts.
Hello. You would be correct. But once you know what springs you have versus the springs you need based on the door size, weight, and track assembly it's half the battle. I am confident the springs you order should do the trick.
@@sosgds thanks so much. ya for whatever reason my garage door has a 20 and on the left and 25 on the right. which i guess happens sometime but house is weird like that. can never get a standard situation. it really threw me off trying to size these coils. im gonna put the 2 25's in and just start off with like 27 or 28 quarter turns on each side (7 ft door) and then work my way up just in case. just waiting for the winding rods to come in.
@@sosgds so once i wound down the right side it turned out to be 23 inch. I installed the 207 x 2 x 25s and gave them each 31 inch half springs and my garage door is fixed! and its much quieter. i dont think my garage was ever blanaced properly with the 207 x 2 x 20 and 207 x 2 x 23. god that was frustrating but its finally fixed and balanced.
@@hvacwiz7877 wonderful! So glad it was taken care of!
@@sosgds let me know if you need hvac help im the hvac wiz 18 years. never worked on a garage door before til now other than reprograming remotes. your videos were helpful.
The suppliers are price gouging! Springs are up 300% in Phx! WHOLESALE Retail price from me and others has gone 30% over normal cost. Funny thought when supply chain is replenished the prices will NOT come back down! It will take years or price shopping to get somewhere close to normal pricing. Imagine how many new guys start each day/year and this will be their norm this will add to the logic of why lower the price? (Per the manufacturers).
😨😱🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 ... I had no idea how it was in AZ. I guess that' why I made this video. I was curious to see if other areas had similar issues and challenges. And you bring up a great point about the new guys coming into the business and their perception of the grown inflation in pretty much all businesses. Thanks for the feedback.
It has, at least in part, to do with the dollar collapsing. Some prices might come back down, many, likely, won't.
good video but the background music was intolerable.
I'm doubting this video is going to give me hacks to run with *no* springs, at all.
ETA: Clickbait. Yep. I watched it. Gave him the benefit of the doubt. I took the time to watch it all.
Pretty much all he talks about is using springs or getting springs.
Even talking about setting up a counterweight system would have made it honest.
Nope.
Let's talk about springs. Using springs, assembling springs, buying springs, installing springs, pricing springs, sourcing springs.... Everything except *No Springs*
Thanks for the feedback. I'm interested in what no spring counterweight solution you have in mind.
overhead sectional garage doors do not open without counterbalancing with springs. You can counterbalance with weights but it is not very safe.
@@Fedup10710 Thank you for your feedback! Safety is first!
Pro hack #6...spring blocks
Spring Blocks didn't make the cut. My experience with them are not good.
in a pinch ...they absolutely get the door up and running...I hate them myself , but if your left with a choice of door not working vs door working ....hmm...they are ugly but I've seen doors that were blocked 5 years ago ,but service guy never returned and they are still working.....many springs break because of an occlusion in the metal and if that weak point is eliminated , then they go back to cyclical breakage....just pointed this out for potential hard times
That's sound reasoning. I will have see if using them during this spring shortage does the trick.
Legend says America used to make steel and form it into springs, is this true? Or was that all a pretend thing from fairy tales of long ago?
The legend is true.
Believe it or not? Springs are still made in the good ole United States of America.
you did not say crap about operating a door without springs. Maybe you should rephrase or re title your video name !
Hello. I appreciate your feedback. Please by all means make a video of your garage door operating without springs.
I do not think charging a higher price for something that is in such strong demand and such low supply is price gouging. You do not have to have a garage door spring to go through your daily life. This is a first world country and to have an overhead door like that is a privilege.
Thanks for the feedback. The elder and disable might disagree with you. In an area where extreme weather is an everyday occurrence, a garage door will protect from the elements and provide safe shelter to a home. Privilege or not, we all want to feel safe entering our home.