2015 Ford F-150 2.7L EcoBoost vs. 2015 Dodge Ram 1500 EcoDiesel Comparison
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- These two workhorse pickup trucks take two very different
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I own a 2015 Ram EcoDiesel 1500. I put 40 thousand miles on it and I've owned it for 3 years. It's received all of its scheduled maintenance. I received an engine code that says EGR insufficient air flow. Dealership says the EGR valve and diffuser tube and EGR cooler are clogged with carbon and will need to be cleaned or replaced. $3,000! I drive 25 to 45 minutes one way to work. This should not happen in a brand new diesel engine. It's supposed to have a factory powertrain warranty. I'm being told they won't cover it. I've been a Dodge customer for 25 years. I feel like I've been screwed
Legit no-nonsense review, no trying too hard to be funny or clever. More of this guy AG!
Years later and the ecodiesel's have been recalled. The recall fix makes the truck slow and dangerous to drive and ruins the fuel economy. So in hindsight with these 2 the ecoboost Ford was the better truck between the 2.
I am a 32 yr old small business owner who pulls a 10 ft enclosed trailer often. I also pull a small snowmobile trailer in the winter and a 7,500lb cuddy cabin boat trailer in the summer. I've owned Ford all my life. I bought into all the ecoboost hype and bought a brand new 2013 F150 supercrew 61/2 ft bed xlt chrome package. My lifetime average for 33,000 miles was 13.5mpg. I babied it every where I went. Me & a buddy pulled a small single axle 3 place sled trailer from Michigan to Colorado and I got 7-9mpg and vowed never again. I sold it on craigslist and am looking at a new Ram 1500 ecodiesel outdoorsman tomorrow. My cousin has one and gets 25avg 31highway and 16 pulling his camper. I paid 35k for the F150 and I'm getting the Ram for 37k and it has navigation,heated seats,heated steering wheel,9 speakers, and sub woofer,all of which the f150 lacked.
Hey Lara I know this comment is 2 y. old. Can you tell me how is that RAM doing after 2 years. I'm considering it. Thanks
Totally agree with you. But with that said can’t blame the ford for your mistake. Knowing your a hauler you should have never considered a gas engine to start with let alone a eco boost. Diesel should have been your only option on the table whether it be Ford, dodge or Chevy.
Youll end up making up on diesel money for the repairs you do on that piece of shit unreliable v6 diesel
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This guy does the best truck reviews by far
Agreed.
i own a 15 f150 with the 2.7. awesome truck. never had any issue towing heavy. i mainly pull around 85 to 8900. pulls and handles great.
How does it run nowadays?
The EcoDiesel is an absolute slug though. I know acceleration isn't the main reason to buy a truck, but it's nice to have confidence when merging onto a freeway. That little 2.7 is a monster. Goes like a scared cat!
When you factor in oil changes, the savings of the diesel mileage evaporates. Eco diesel oil change (dealership) $260. Ecoboost oil change (dealership) $70. Same interval for oil changes.
+Jordan Watson Actually, oil changes at RAM for the Ecodiesel is about $180. You can do it yourself for under $100. But of course if your buying a diesel, you already know how to take care of your ride.
+777x777x777x777 That's a good price, American dollars or Canadian? The list is $260. I always did my own changes when I had a diesel too. still expensive, but cheaper than the dealer.
I love how unbiased this is. As a Ford fan I really got a new appreciation for the Ram. Thank you and keep the reviews coming!
A friend of mine has an f150 with that eco boost engine and that little thing is amazing as far as power and torque
I like this guy. Maybe a comparison between the new Nissan Titan, and Toyota Tundra would be awesome.
BCJDM Nissan Titan is trash! I averaged 14 Highway
I can't complain with my '14 supercrew 3.5 ecoboost. Quick, powerful, and tows just fine. Been in beach sand, mud and a couple feet of snow in the mountains. Hasn't let me down.
Those all terrain tires on that f150 probably hurt fuel economy.
Paultwice22 wonder what the gearing was as well , especially since it was the fx4 package
You are correct lol
+jeremymvail I believe the FX4s come with 3.73 gears
Highway and all terrains can omit at least 5-9mpgs...thats what i noticed when i put all terrains on my DMAX
+Paultwice22 Don't know why they have them, they don't come with them stock. Tires with the FX4 package has Goodyear Wranglers.
How are you gonna compare the 2.7 EcoBoost to a 5.7 liter? Wouldn't the 3.5 EcoBoost be more comparable? Probably not. The 3.5 EcoBoost crushes it in torque, HP, towing capacity, etc. Ford will even tell you that the F-150 with a 5.0 Coyote can't out pull or out perform 3.5 twin turbo. Dodge certainly isn't doing it.
Don't forget to mention that maintenance cost's are a lot more on the EcoDiesel. One of the main reason I got rid of mine and traded it for a F150. $300.00 Oil changes and $300.00 Fuel Filter Changes.
For me the answers easy you buy the dodge because of the image, you buy the ford because it's well thought out, practical, & aimed more at working instead of just towing stuff
It is really hard to convince me to pay the extra $3K above the 5.7 HEMI for the diesel. Both 5.7 HEMI and ecoboost have much better acceleration than the diesel does. I still prefer the gasoline engine.
Love this guy's truck reviews.
DootDoot yea he is pretty good ----- The fast lane guys are goofy and have dumb reviews normally --- but their ike gauntlet towing up a mountain is a fantastic test of trucks ---- this guy just tells it like it is :^)
DootDoot He needs to get a correct hitch for the F150. The drop mount for the ball is clearly wrong with the down angle on the trailer. With a straight mount for the ball it will tow much better. Been there and done that on my 2004.
Agreed
he works for tfl now
stop making mean comments if u like ford like it if u like dodge then like it why does someone else's opinion always has to end in conflict or mean things
My 2.7 averages 27 miles a gallon if I'm going 55 if I'm going 65 I average 25
This video was really well done! I loved the cuts you did when hooking up the trailer, and of the interiors.
Just bought an 18 F 150 and could not be happier. They gave the 2.7L a power boost, and I believe the fuel economy is better too? Drives like a dream!
The fords lighting is on point, especially the platinum. The inside lights on my buddy's changes color pretty cool.
yeah dude, you should check out a Mustang. moodlighting for date night haha
Hook up to 7000 pounds & race up a mountain. The Fiat would be yelling "wait for me!"
Especially if you compare the 3.5L EcoBoost to the Ecodiesel, and the 3.5L EcoBoost will still be multiple thousand of dollars less.
3.5 won't even handle it i had one it just broke all the time lol if you want ford stick with the 5.0 unless you like spending money for repairs
@@frednesselrotte6167 the five oh will cost you money the minute you drive it. And it’s a slug off the line
Am I the only one who really just cares about the reliability of these trucks more than anything in this video?
nope I do two. I have a 13' Ram 1500 I won't buy a Ford or Chevy. Brand Loyalty
+Jake Rheault got to agree
+Jake Rheault we have a 2014 Chevy Silverado with the 5.3l engine and it is extremely reliable...
Please keep buying ram. Mechanics and tow truck drivers need jobs too.
+Derek Ortiz Switching to a Jeep Renegade this time. I lease vehicles
that EcoDiesel, if I'm not mistaken, takes around 12 quarts of oil + filter. That's double what an ecoboost would take. The 8 speed transmission on the RAM 2015 oil filter is stuck to the oil pan. Doing a DYI transmission service would cost around $400.
These are a turn off for me since I drive over 50k a year for work if I take one month off vacation.
Man my 2.7 gets a solid 23 mpg and 24 on the hwy
I bought my first ever truck 6 months ago, a 2019 Ram Classic Tradesmen crew cab Ecodiesel 4 x 4, the fuel mileage is so good compared to the gas powered Hemi. Love the way the truck runs and oil changes are every 10k miles. No regrets!
How’s it holding up now
@@Wilderbliss17 Same brakes at 113k, but had to change the EGR cooler and CR converter which Ram covered half of it. Other than that just ordinary maintenance oil change every 10k, and just changed differential fluid as well as brake fluid.
What a deal you only have to drive it for 10 years to break even on the fuel economy difference. And then from there (assuming it hasnt grenaded yet) or needed expensive repairs you can pocket a few hundred bucks a year ! Oh wait never mind that few hundred dollars a year is just enough to offset the $210 oil change. Looks like its a dead even wash.
Nice review and I like that you caught the air suspension. Something that I wish you showed was the superior 0-60 times and that the diesel cannot maintain speed up steep hills like the gas turbo can. You say the diesel is king for towing but this 2.7 would blow the doors off this diesel under load in a hill climb or in acceleration as proven on TFL.There is also a huge problem in the UK right now with diesel emissions that penetrate the lungs, kidneys, brain and heart because people don't maintain them. Very dangerous emissions to our health. Hydrogen and battery power is inevitable. Diesel will just slow us down and cause pollution problems like what is happening in the UK.
I was recently in a 2.7 EB XLT Sport and I was pleasantly surprised. my buddy has a 3.5 EB Lariat and had the 2.7 as a loaner and he couldn't even believe how much more pep it had. his is the steel f-150 and the loaner was a 2016 aluminum. his dad has the 5.0 and its amazing how much nicer the interior in the 2016 is over the previous iterations. id love to get a 2016+ F-150 in anything except the 3.5L NA.
MPG goes to the Dodge(I'm not calling it "Ram") but the power goes to the Ford. The Ecoboost blows the Ecodiesel away when empty and just as easily when towing.
were the ram's wheel wells already starting to rust out? it looked like the paint was bubbling in the one shot.
big issues with the ecodiesel after a 100,000. I know people are consistently having issues with the EGR and intake and exhaust cams. expensive fixes especially if you do 100k every couple years in your work truck.
Who needs MPG in a TRUCK stupid GO FORD!
Just bought a 2018 ecodiesel with 3000 miles on it and I LOVE it!!!! Yeah it's not my 2014 Hemi as far as the 60 to 90 mph but man I cannot get over the fuel mileage. I can go almost 2 full weeks between fill ups (my 14' hemi with the 6 speed and lift was about 5 days between fill ups). I love the truck and am 100% satisfied with it so far.
How’s it holding up now?
@@Wilderbliss17 great! 71595 miles and (knock on wood) all I’ve replaced is the battery.
@@5cent27 good to hear! I just bought a used one with 34k miles on it!
@@Wilderbliss17 my suggestion is to run “hotshots everyday diesel” in every tank of fuel, put on a cft catch can, and delete it if you can. Check if you have an open recall for the cp4 pump too.
I don’t tow with mine although I’m sure it would be fine. A lot of folks buy these and think it’s a “mini Cummins”, it’s not. I compare it more to the 3.6 pentastar than a hemi or Cummins.
@@5cent27 thanks for looking out bro! Yeah I’m learning so those pointers really help. What does the hotshots do? Also, I read that deleting can cause u to fail emissions? Sorry I’m very new to this all
It would have been nice to see this pickups loaded up with an 8,000lb load and pulling some hills. A lot of guys are looking to dump their inefficient 3/4 ton and 1 ton diesels they use to haul their smaller travel trailers around. My travel trailer is 35' long and 7,000lbs dry.
The terrible trailer setup is the reason for the truck not riding well. You need to take care to level the trailer and get your 10-15% tongue weight. A trailer set up like that causes the suspension to jitter and move up and down more. A level trailer will make a huge difference.
Finally and no nonsense, review of 2 vehicles. Thankyou!
I've also never heard anyone say they prefer ram interior vs ford interior. Ford in my opinion has always taken the cake for interiors
22 Combined for the RAM Eco Diesel is complete BS, actual numbers are 25-27 MPG Combined.
Ivan Vojt The Fast Lane Truck actually did a test and got 31MPG out of this truck
***** I know someone who is getting 25-27 (just bought it) & he spoke to another owner who is getting 26.
Ivan Vojt I bought mine a month ago and getting 31mpg!
kridley73 Like I said 22 is BS.
Nice review, so it will take 5 1/2 years to recoup the diesel investment. I want diesels to come down in price, and I've only seen diesel fuel run more expensive than premium gas and don't forget the DEF cost.
Kamaka Chang Yup, over 5 years. Just in time to trade in on a new one. HA HA
+Kamaka Chang And don't forget if anything does break it's more expensive to fix.
I would like to see which one is still on the road in 10yrs with 300,000 km on the Odometer. I bet you its the Ram. The little engine Fords are great if you want a new truck every two years.
KLS PW haven't you seen the Ford 2.7 million mile commercial ?
BB02XX is correct
KLS PW after about 6 transmissions, 3 total front end overhauls, at least one rear end rebuild and plenty of broken interior parts 😂 chrysler has always been shit quality
The 2.7 is a monster. Tune it and your over 400hp.
+Sean S Draw 400hp out that 2.7 and your asking for a blown engine.
+777x777x777x777 they make over 400 with just a tune. Add in a CAI and exhaust + tune and you're looking at over 450-500 with increased fuel economy. But then again turbo diesel motors make huge gains with SCT tuners as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the ecodiesel got 35+ mpg with hardware and tune.
Wow aluminum weight saving is pretty impressive. 800lbs lighter than the ram!
I prefer eco boost especially here in Cali where diesel is a dollar more then gas
So the 2.7L is about $800 option, the Ram Ecodiesel is about a $4,500 option. So until you save $3,700 in fuel, you have not even broke even. At your own estimate of saving $700 to $800 (you didn't say if thats over the avg 5 yr life people own a vehicle or per year, so lets assume a year) it will take about 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 years to just break even on the additional cost of the diesel motor. This is not taking $100 oil changes into account versus $35 oil changes for the F150 or the additional cost of DEF. Also I don't know where you live, but in Texas, diesel costs about 10% to 15% more than gas. So you also didn't factor in the additional cost of fuel. There have been multiple well known car magazines who have compared a full 5 years of ownership of a diesel to the cost of a gas motor and the diesel is always more expensive. It takes about 10 years of vehicle ownership in a diesel to truly see benefits from resale, fuel economy, etc. This is why many fleet vehicles at places like Caterpillar have swapped over to 3/4 ton trucks with 6.0L or 6.4L gas engines. There are many well documented fleet ownership with hundreds of vehicles to compare overall cost of ownership and the gas engine counterparts always are cheaper than the diesels. The ONLY time where a diesel makes sense, is if you are making money off it, or hauling something that literally exceeds the capabilities of its gasoline counterpart. Anyone else who purchases a diesel truck under any other notion is just convincing themselves that they made a wise purchase. It is not uncommon for gasoline engines to go 350k miles plus now a days. There was a time where diesels were significantly more reliable than gas engines. But thanks to all the emissions crap on diesels, and the advancements in technology on gas engines, those days are gone. Also since this review, the F150 now has a 10 speed transmission further improving gas mileage. Also the HP and Torque numbers are on par with the ecodiesel as well now.
Dodge ram for the working man... Ford for the working lady?...
@Issy
And you drive a Prius..says a lot about you
Like always, great truck reviews man!
This guy does the best truck reviews.
I really love how even though Chrysler split off ram, Everybody still calls it a Dodge Ram. Give up the act Chrysler!
Nice Comparison
Still the best truck reviewer I know
So you said during the entire video how the f150 was so much better it drove better, had great power, great features and add ons and even more flexible and usable in the cargo area but because Diesel is more efficient you proclaimed that the Dodge was better?....You need to look up winner before saying anything else wins.
Mark Brown ,,,,,,WTF,,,,,,,what video did you watch a$$hat?
also, the f150 has all terrain tires
I just subscribed. FINALLY... a channel that does real comparisons and actually comes up with the winner,,, not like many who just tells you this and that and then tells you to decide after you decipher everything they said (seems like they are afraid to contradict other ratings or insult the car makers).But I do have a question... I noticed you guys had the Ford as the Truck of the year, or whatever the title was, and that the Dodge didn't even make it to the top two... Why would you then give the Dodge the win, when it obviously came below both the Ford and the Yukon? (again, thanks for being brave enough to contradict even your own findings,,, shows changability)
A diesel getting better fuel economy than a gasser? shit I would have never guessed
I like your photo
Zach Bennett Bubbles is the man!! Rickyisms are hilarious. Love TPB
Yeah but here in California diesel is almost a dollar more a gallon then gas
+Zach Bennett 45% better though?
if you done the math with the price of diesel the ecoboost actually does best it in price wise for fuel economy. also u pay alot more for that diesel the whole.tine you one the truck your the bit of fuel your saing you just end up putting thar into the expensive diesel option
This was a very good review! But I think that the word "pizzaz" should not be used in a truck video. Ever. lol
totally calling BS on your F150 Mileage. I average 23mpg in my 2015 2.7L
It would be interesting to see a test with both trucks pulling the same weight at the same time and letting the diesel set the pace, because the EcoBoost would almost certainly do better than it did here, poking along at the slower pace of the diesel.
Also, Ram clearly made a mistake with the tow rating of the Ecodiesel, as it seems to destroy itself quite often when hauling heavy loads.
And you don't have to worry about resale value, since Fiat Chrysler will be forced to buy it back. :-D
I agree. There is no beating of a good turbo diesel. But I wanted to emphasize that in CA and most of the western states, diesel is being sold at much lower price than gasoline. I looked yesterday and gas in CA is around 3.75-4.00 per gallon range while you can easily find diesel at 3.00-3.10. What Chrysler need to do is to reduce weight of the RAM and keep the diesel engine and it will be a fantastic choice. It will be well worth the price premium.
cassmanio Strange. Local stations around me it's the opposite. At a minimum, the cost of diesel is currently 20 cents more and more typically in the 40 cent range plus the added cost of the additive. When considering these, In addition to initial cost and fuel economy of both, I would think you would have to consider maintenance costs of gas vs. the ecodiesel? Also residual value?
Would have been good to talk about the military grade aluminum body on the ford. It won't rust. It would have also been good to talk about reliability. I have a Chrysler Town and Country and I've always kept up with the maintenance. It's a total piece of crap. A total money pit. My in-laws bought a brand new Dodge Journey. Within a month the transmission was pooched. I had a Dodge Charger rental during a business trip and it left myself and my business partners stranded outside a restaurant late at night because it wouldn't start. It too was new. While I prefer the look of the Dodge Ram I wouldn't trust it to run for long without becoming problematic. Ford is pretty decent as far as reliability goes. These factors would have me lean towards the Ford. That said, I hear that Honda has redesigned the Ridgeline and because I have owned a few Acura and Honda products I will wait to see what they come out with. I have a 10 year old Acura with lots of miles that's never needed anything but brakes, tires and oil. All in all though a good review and to each their own.
We need moar truck reviews from this guy !!! A+++++
nice review. Although I'm going towards the ford because I'm loyal.
Unfortunately as good as the Ram is it got terrible crash ratings where the Ford got 5 stars. Something to think about.
They are fixing the front end so it can get a better rating I think 2017 or 2018
+KrazEy overload yeah, when they come out with an entirely new truck.
Derek Ortiz
I think for the 2018 they are supposed to beef up the front end
Mark Frazier I don't plan on crashing anytime soon
If you look at the test videos, it seems to be the ability to divert the wheel away from the wheel well where the Ram's gets pushed into the passenger compartment.
I'd love to have a new truck but after reading posts here I'm confused
to the point I think I'll keep my low-mileage (123,000) Extended-Cab
'96 Chevy Silverado 3/4 ton 7400 Vortec 454 truck. I bought it for $3200
bucks. It doesn't have some of the whistles & bells that the newer
vehicles have; it's not a power house but has good torque, reliable as
hell and easy to trouble-shoot if there were a problem. I wonder if
that boosted 2.7 will run the kind of miles mine will. It's not my
daily driver so not worried about gas mileage that much and $50 grand
will buy a lot of gas. These two trucks do good to excellent on
mileage- did the poster mention the gas mileage of these trucks when
towing or did I miss that? I know motors when on boost will suck gas. I
just wondering how much better mileage they get than mine when towing
if their having to run the turbos constantly to keep up. I viewed
elsewhere on youtube where the EcoBoost engines were building carbon
deposits behind the intake valves and causing problems with that and
causing turbo failures. I guess I don't have to worry about having all
those issues, especially if the dang things are out of warranty.
Greg Beckham i recommend the dodge ram
he must of had the f150 in 4wd because I average a solid 22 mpg every day and on the highway 25 mpg.
The savings of $800 annually is minimal if any. Fuel filters and oil changes are way more costly these days. I work at Ford and drive a Dodge. pricing ranges from 115$ for oil in a 6.7 SD chassis, $280 for fuel filter service. ff every 15k. Oil changes every 5k . You add it up. It's even Steven when its all said and done in my opinion!
Great unbiased review! I totally agree that if you buy your truck to pull heavy loads go with dodge ( dodge has best suspension in this class). I have 2.7l 2015 f150 and it is a great truck and i get 19-21mpg. However, they need to work on suspension. Best rides are when you have 400-500lbs in the bed.
Shame ram aren't big in England. Problem is it's too big for shuttle English roads
Serious and honest review. Very good!
But on next test, should use the same tires!!
Ford, can u hear me? Put a 3.3 liter v6 turbo diesel n the F-150 and stop trying to fool people into thinking a small turbo gas engine will get diesel like mpg. This is why large truck use diesel engine. There is no better way to move weight than with a diesel engine.
My EcoBoost does better than EcoDiesel mpg wise.. coming from owner of both
Good reviewer, I felt like I could trust this dude
hands down best truck reviews. speakers the truth.
RAM WINS
If a RAM could take a crap the F-150 is what would come out.
Nice ha
Ploffy Kha interesting. I piece of shit taking a shit. never knew that was possible
Loc Luke just compare ram limited to f150 limited: semi aniline leather vs ass-centric massage, theres no denying the f150 is more gay than Elton john. And its pretty clear which team u play for too. For my ass otoh, its only semi aniline leather, no pounding. Dont hate me for liking girls pls?
Loc Luke theres even more recent proof now since i wrote the comment: the Ford Craptor.
Dodge wouldn't even exist if not for Ford, the same goes for Cadillac.
Theya need to bring back a Ranger sized pick up truck again and downsize the Dakota
Would like to see the mpg with the trailer behind. I bet the difference would be even bigger. Both nice trucks
ford quality is much better. dodge is just coming up in the truck world but ford builds a better truck. my opinion of course
Straight to the point. Thank you for not wasting nobody times! And thank you for this review!
My wife and her very heavy foot gets better MPG in my 2.7L than this guy. I get 25MPG combined average. I consistently get 27MPG or more. its a 2018 crew cab 4X4. And the 2018 now has 400 ft ponds of torque.
If you can't Dodge it, then Ram it!
Pun intended
Best. Ram. Pun. Ever.
that pun is true even though the ram has great handling
hey buddy ford is the best for everything
hey buddy your wrong its the other way around
All American trucks are reliable. Some say Ram is the most reliable, others say Ford, others say GM. Just deal with it, they’re all reliable. The Toyota Tundra May be a bit more reliable, but it isn’t as capable, and fuel economy is very poor.
Does this guy live in Canada? Diesel, where I live costs 50 to 75 cents more per gallon!
Nice review style and comparison
Wait till that diesel gels up when its 20 below
Don't know what models he is comparing for price but it looks like he has a Ford XLT with FX4 package (FX4 is not a separate model any longer) and a RAM Laramie with Leather interior. It's hard to compare Apples to Apples when it comes to trim levels versus price but when I shopped in 2012 I bought the RAM 2500 Longhorn with Cummins because the FORD King Ranch was almost $8000 more given the same or very similar equipment. On the issue of brake controller the RAM had speed sense and it does have a self test even though it may not be obvious. I prefer the light handling of the Ford. The RAM feels heavy and rather isolated and not as smooth a ride. I had an F150 and I loved it. RAM has stepped up it's game since 2010. Before that I wouldn't even have looked at a RAM. If Ford gets some good engines I'll probably give them a look again.
Love the EcoDIESEL
Had a 2015 ecodiesel same as this truck but a quad cab instead of crew but it handled well around corners with no issues and towed over 5k without any issues and I think my fuel mileage went down maybe 1mpg
@autoguide *Ram, not Dodge Ram
I really like how well you executed this video, good work
I´d always prefer a diesel when it comes to efficiency. As mentioned in the test saving fuel in the Dodge is rather easy, with the Ford you have to will yourself to save. So I´m guessing the difference could be even greater with your average driver.
Just traded in my 2011 Ram 1500 for a 2015 Ford F150 XLT..... Wont ever go back to Ram and this is coming from a guy that kept an immaculate maintenance schedule.
My GF has 2 plugins. But she only lets me use one....
If i had to choose between these two i would probably take the ford. But i would never purposely buy one due to the reliability issues both these truck possess. So i would buy a tried and true small block from gm. Definitely one of the most reliable of the bunch.
ram
Yo! Whats the info on the songs you used?
The dodge interior has more style pizzaz? What planet are you on???
New favorite review channel
But one thing people r always forgetting is the price difference from diesel and gas I wander how much u will really save with the price premium of diesel
OH yeah. That ecodiesel is awesome. 0-60 in 9 seconds!
The Ecodiesel is a turd and can't keep up with traffic hauling a load up a steep grade.