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You're not in the minority, it's just that the extreme gun hobbyists afficionados are a loud and obnoxious minority. The Glock is the most ubiquitous pistol out there, and since guns are their entire personality, they try to make themselves unique by trying to distance themselves from the most common pistol on the market.
hate to say it, but the echelon was probably everything that glock was thinking about doing for gen 6. the modular chassis, great trigger, great updated slide features, excellent optic system, good set of irons, i really love the echelon. i like how the grip frame profile is shaped like a gen 3 glock but with gen 5 ambi controls. the echelon is by far my favorite striker to day. hate to say it because its a springgfield, but i gotta give em credit. they nailed it, the gun just tracks flat and is a tack driver. they got the barrel lug unlock dwell timing down really good
Pretty much this. What really helps the Echelon as well is the universal optics mount, which seemingly works exceptionally well. That'd be exactly the sort of thing that would reassert Glock dominance if they were indeed the ones to do it first, but they're all in on MOS, and HS beat them to the punch.
Their focus is large contracts, not some rube that cries about sights and grip angles. Millions have no issue with it as is and you marys never stop. Buy a Canik
Honestly I hope they keep the Glock aesthetic the same forever. The hilarious never changing square design is funny considering how well they continue to work decades later
@@lightweight1365 So I am a blood thirsty capitalist, if you change the grip angle you can make new higher capacity mags that will force users to change :D
I've never seen an m&p9 guy become a glock guy. I seen a ton of Glock guys become m&p guys. What is different. Grip ergonomics, sights, trigger (worse then/better now) and styling. Sights and trigger seem the easiest, grip ergonomic seems the highest risk/reward
@@nchintalapani I'm glad I didn't listen to my buddy. First pistol was a shield plus. I definitely wish it had a pic rail but I will take my m&p9 to the grave. I was able to build one with a printed frame for 185$
I've never seen an anything guy become an anything guy. Literally every gun owner I've ever met has a bunch of different pistols, especially within the context of USPSA guys which tend to be handgun afficionados.
The PDP trigger has more to do with the fully cocked striker and the P-99 type sear in the PDP than the trigger itself. It is the same reason why Canik is recognized as having great triggers because they use the P-99 sear.
@garyvalenti1019 The Walther P-99 is a pistol that Canik copied the trigger design from. Try a Canik Rival and you will experience heaven in a handgun trigger stock out of the box. The fully pre-cocked striker eliminates the creep you feel in other guns with partially cocked striker systems. In those type trigger systems the creep you feel after the wall is actually the sear drawing the striker back the rest of the way to the fully cocked position, then it breaks and the gun fires. The P-99 trigger is the best striker design trigger and the break can come close to a 1911 trigger. My modified Canik Rival-S breaks clean at 3 pounds with no creep.
Glocks look sleek compared to more modern designs. That being said a version that has modular frames would be interesting especially if they had modules with the classic Glock grip angle and then modules with a 1911 or a S&W M&P grip angle.
One of Glock’s greatest strengths has always been the aftermarket. In the 6th Gen they should make the platform even easier for the extensive network of custom parts manufacturers to build on.
If you build a better gun aftermarket parts aren’t as necessary. Literally the reason why Glock’s aftermarket exists is because even Glock fan bois think Glocks suck.
@@kevinallies1014 CZ has CZ Custom and Cajun Gun Works, SIG has GrayGuns, etc., etc… Every major manufacturer producing a gun with any following has strong aftermarket support. In fact, the absence of an aftermarket might suggest the gun is a flop. Customizing your gun is something people do with guns they like. Guns that I only use for work are the only ones I leave stock.
@@kevinallies1014 This has always got to be the worst excuse for disliking a Glock. Everyone upgrades their pistol whether it be a Glock or a Beretta. As a matter of fact it costs me way more to get my Beretta the way I wanted it, than to get my Glock the way I wanted it. There's expensive aftermarket for everything out there. Walther PDPs people change the recoil spring assembly, they put a heavier aftermarket backstrap, change the extended controls, etc. The only difference is since the Glock is so ubiquitous there's way more after market out there to fill the needs of everybody.
They have offered steel night sights for a decade or more. People want their choice of sights and with half running optics, whatever sights they choose, people would cry.
@@jsirius94Performance trigger is just that, a performance trigger. Probably meant a better stock trigger that can function about exactly the same, without having being lubed to every few hundred to a thousand rounds.
Trijicon makes great dots, but the footprint sucks and has hindered their design. DPP footprint can take an RMR plate (Sig and Staccato do this), so go that route. If you absolutely must have a direct mount RMR, there’s a ton of aftermarket slide options.
The Gen 6 should be the Gloccato. Put a bunch of cuts and such all over it for cool points, maybe etch something edgy on the slide like an Austrian flag with PERFECCATO emblazoned on it, an add-on magwell that would make Stormy Daniels blush, and then have an MSRP "starting at" $2,500. Have a comp that's like a $750 add-on and some other bits like that. Boom, profit.
1. Get rid of the hump at the bottom of the grip and adopt the PDP/CZ P10 style rock in backstrap 2. Angle the serrations 3. Change the grip texture to be like grip tape, add texture to the thumb ledge 4. Change at least the trigger shoe, just swapping in a Ranger Proof Vex or Apex completely changes the feel 5. Put the Extended factory slide release on all Glocks 6. Rework the MOS system, it's just bad compared to everyone else's
Maybe this will be a controversial opinion, but - the glock being almost the same it always been has been a key to retaining its market value: backwards compatible, not overly expensive, reliable and ready to have any part of it replaced by extensive aftermarket & accessories offer. I believe the best value for customer is just that: options to upgrade it in any way you see fit, or just leave it as it is for a good purchase value (see a lots of discounts on them in Europe at least) Should it be up to me, having any kind of parallel tuned-up version would be a way to go. For me, Echelon just offerred way more for comparable price. But I can imagine people that play with these guns a lot themselves would still look for the cheapest base version.
What I want to see in a gen 6 glock is a serialized chassis, an option to keep the current grip angle or to change it, an option for a thumb safety, ditch the MOS system for something better, a reinforced slide so it doesnt crack if you accidentally drop it on a hard surface while its disassembled from the frame, a reinforced dust cover to eliminate pig nose and an option for steel mags while still being compatible with current polymer mags. If that seems too much for glock, then maybe the glock can just turn into a sarsilmaz SAR 9 gen 3 😅 Oh boy, that gun feels so much better than a glock gen 5. But seriously, hope glock comes up with a competitive gen 6 for todays market.
some ideas to think about: 1. Make a gen 6 steel frame competition version. 2. Offer different factory recoil spring weights so we don't need to get aftermarket guide rods. 3. Factory adjustable iron sights with fiberoptic front sight on the competition model. 4. The new TriggerTech trigger will be a big improvement( completely different design, disconnector moved to the slide). Glock should use them or a similar design. 5. Make the Competition model with a 5inch barrel ( its stupid that IPSC does not allow the 34 in production and USPSA will be defunct as an org soon) 6. if not a steel frame, add a metal sleeve or insert in the magwell to reduce the wear from reloads. some guns ive seen look like it became a dog chew toy.
@@whitlock3076 lol it won't. not anytime soon. I don't like the way the org is ran either, but it's like those people who say that any moment now Trump or Hillary or Biden will be locked up, it won't happen.
Anyone else notice when ever Ben's hands move off screen (any direction) it comes back into view with a different gun? Guns everywhere. Ole McBen had a gun...ei ei oh. With G34 here a Staccato P there, here PDP there P320, ole McBen had a gun...ei ei oh.
Glock is like the musket of pistols. With its plastic mags and 1990s look. When he held up the PDP and the Glock, all I saw was 2020s vs. 1990s. Like comparing an mp3 to a boombox 😂
I've owned a NIB gen 5 Glock 22 MOS since 2021. I might to use, carry it more, 2024 now that new after market 9x19mm, .357sig gen 5 barrels are now common. KKM, Glock Store etc....
@@DavidLLambertmobile Yep, I am planning to try out an extended Glock 32 barrel in mine, assuming that the Gen 5 Glock 22 is the same in relation to the 23 as the Gen 5 17 and 19 are.
That’s why I have 4 shadow systems pistols and 0 Glocks. Better aesthetics, able to change the grip angle and their direct optics mounting system. Hard to beat that overall package for a couple hundred more than a Glock
@@HWG-wm8ld Why are you against improvement? They could just make the G34 extended stop the standard and it would just be a total benefit for everyone.
Gen 6 Glock - all models come MOS, extended slide lock/release, metal night sights. Obvi could come with a nicer trigger, if it doesn’t hurt their reliability.
Agreed on those three things and I would add my tinfoil theory: I think gen6 will come with a similar concept of SIG's FCU so the frame and slide are not serialized and can be bought off the shelf. That will allow Glock to create different grip modules and crank those out like chocolate chip cookies to stoners. Additionally, the MOS should be re-worked, either by offering OEM metal plates that are as reliable (if not more) than the FCD plates OR by sticking to a single optic footprint like the RMR (just like SIG did with the RMSc).
@@feetpiece_704 By virtue of it having more moving parts and it's outdated 1911/2011 design, it is inherently objectively a less reliable design than the Glock. If it's reliable enough for you and others, then it's reliable ENOUGH, but not on equal grounds.
I think the fact that Glock hasn't even bothered to fix the sights for decades now is proof they dgaf. It would be trivially easy for Glock to put halfway decent sights on their guns and they simply refused to do so.
I believe it the echelon would have been released by Glock (fitting Glock holsters and taking Glock mags) everyone would have lost their mind and praised them as genius perfection. They really just need to do something similar to that with their name and reliability.
@@HWG-wm8ld oh actually I don’t own one, I have little interest in springfield, I just think they took one of the best part of sig (modularity) and the best part of shadow systems (optics cut) and combined them. But I don’t think it’s been out long enough to be vetted
One of Glock’s biggest ergonomic problems is their plastic mags are thicker than metal mags, which makes the grip that much thicker. If they want to make guns that don’t feel like a 2x4, they might have to move away from the thick plastic mags.
@@HWG-wm8ldwhy should I drop my wrists when every other manufacturer has figured out what a proper grip angle should be. It’s such a simple fix for Glock but dumbasses like you that love sucking Glocks balls no matter how far they fall behind the competition help keep Glock from moving forward. We get it dude, your Glocks white knight and you’ve responded to every single person trying to help Glock improve. Glock should probably revert back to no light rail, no backstraps and no serrations, am I right? How dare they improve their design?! 😂
You basically described a Shadow Systems. I just bought a MR920 War Poet and love it. Modular backstraps changes the grip angle. Better trigger, better sights and more aggressive stippling and slide cuts. Plus they don't have that cheap ass place for the optics. The screws holding down my SRO go right through to the inside of the slide. Maybe Glock should buyout Shadow Systems.
@@PeekInsideEverytime It would cost you more to upgrade a Glock stippling, slide cuts, etc than it would be to buy a S.S. The plate system for Glock is shit. You literally have 3 threads through pot metal holding your dot. They need to fix that. For that matter, all Glocks should be dot ready.
IMO the single most important thing they need for gen 6 is to ditch the MOS system and do something similar to the Shadow Systems cut. All it takes is to reengineer the extractor spring plunger to be shorter.
Good video and thanks for sharing. The patent protection ending on gen 3's and the flood of copies should give the ideas. The Bul versions seem nearly perfect hope the lean into something like that for the 6th gen. I suspect they won't do much. Be well happy 4th!
I think it's hard to imagine that Glock doesn't switch to a P320-like chassis system. As much as I despise the P320, the chassis system has been a huge leap forward in innovation that's been widely copied. People love modifying their Glocks and I think that allowing them to switch entire grip modules (rather than being screwed if you fuck up while stippling the grip or something) is what the market is screaming for.
@@UrbanDefenseSystems Yeah those are nice but I want Glock to do something similar. It doesn’t make sense not to. They could be selling so many slide and grip options it’d make your head spin. I don’t like Sig’s but they know what they are doing with the P365.
Just buy another Glock, they are $500. When you come home from work every day are you gonna swap out chassis for a compact or subcompact module, no. Just grab your 19 and go.
@@HWG-wm8ld It takes 5 seconds to get the chassis out of a Sig P320. Sure you can buy a new Glock, but why not just offer a chassis and let people pick their ideal slides and frames? Why would you not want the option to swap out grip modules? You could take the Glock 17/19 and swap to a Glock 26 sized grip if you were going somewhere or wearing something, where having a full size gun is going to be harder to conceal.
All I want is a nicer trigger and bring back the RTF(rough texture finish). I did buy the new version 2 Glock Performance Trigger and they really improved its very nice. Little pre-travel, wall, nice break.
If I could whisper Dowager Glock’s ear: - Next Glock doesn’t need to be a chassis gun, but it should have a subframe the size of a magazine and completely removable wraparound grips. Could do palmswells and even grip angle options. Even a fingergroove frontstrap option. Think of the profit margin opportunity as an accessory. - Screw the current GPT. Don’t half-ass a comp trigger. Lean into it. It needs travel adjustments, or at least a way to cut down on zero-weight overtravel. Integrate it into a G6 “performance” line with comp triggers as a factory option. - MOS needs a redo. License one of the improved systems as a factory option, and while we’re at it, kill the rear slide dovetail. Integrate a rear sight into the cover plate. One less machining cut on all slides and another high profit margin accessory (different OEM rear sight cover plates-e.g., a target model, a suppressor height model for guns with high front sights).
The Glock is the Jeep Wrangler of guns. You need to swap out all that perfection for your preference. My first was a glock (gen 3). I don't own it anymore, not going back to the brand.
All good points, but I have little faith they would make any of those improvements. They should also improve their barrel lockup. Most Glocks I’ve checked have a loose barrel fit compared to any other brand. I can usually push the top of the barrel around with my thumb. I’ve never been able to do that with other brands. Some may argue it doesn’t matter or that it isn’t common, but it was common in those Glocks I’ve had an opportunity to check. It would stand to reason that a loose barrel fit would impact accuracy.
I have a g17 gen5 for “duty” but I shoot a pdp for competitive stuff just cause like you said it’s cooler lol. It just looks and feels better thats literally the only reason.
1) stock sights. 2) trigger 3) texture/grip angle/looks. 4) direct mounting system similar to Shadow Systems/Echelon. The modular chassis would be cool but I don’t think it’ll pass Glocks reliability standards.
I think it may be an important point to acknowledge that more innovation may be possible after the passing of Mr Glock. Not that I'd expect anything revolutionary but it may be more possible than before.
If Glock really wants to innovate, start putting a high quality red dot on every handgun, already sighted in at the factory. Eventually, I wanna see futuristic sights like the video game destiny, where the front and rear sights are free floating lasers. That would sick af boi.
My wish list: 1) Steel sights 2) Front sight that dovetails in instead of being held in with a teeny-weeny screw 3) bigger trigger guard (yes, this would almost certainly destroy holster compatibility) 4) better trigger (Walther or Canik would be something to emulate) I'm old enough to remember when Glock was the only game in town when it came to the plastic frame, striker fired thing that everyone does today. That's a big part of why I started shooting them. I'm looking at other options today but I wish that Glock would just make a few changes... so that I don't have to. xD
I think the biggest improvement they could make is to the MOS system. I think a complete rework would be ideal. Something that uses spacers with screws going directly from the RDS into the gun would be a great improvement.
They're so far behind other manufacturers that they kinda need to copy them to match. Removable chassis system like the p365, metal 15 round mags for the 43x, a grip chopped 43x with 10 round mags to compete with the p365 for better concealed carry would be a start.
They have really dug in their heels on the slow rate of change, so I don't see that changing. They might be better off with Legacy style models and coming out with some kind of "new coke" line with a larger frame/module re-design but the old faithful still has demand and as long as money is coming in the door it will stay. I love my CZ P-10C and VP9, but the Glock still has a home (it's the most mod'd of my pistols)
Due to the size of the mag, I think it might be hard to shape the grip in a much improved manner without making it too large for many to like. You forgot decent sights. If Glock would spend $3-$5 more per gun, they could come up with some sights like those that come on SiGS or Hellcats that are perfectly useable.
I think Glock has got away with not making big updates because the aftermarket support is so vast. Everything mentioned can be had to your liking using aftermarket parts
They only thing I would add, personally, is serrations on the top part of the slide near the front. I get more contact with my hand on top compared to the sides.
How about fixing what everybody (almost) changes 1. sights 2. Grippier grip (maybe les like a plastic 2x4) and the trigger. Hey, what if they put in a trigger from....Glock Triggers. Now there is an idea.
they would just blow up the market if the glock platform.. here me out Released a 1911 ish angle. to buy... and thats the banger.. then you bring all the haters well most
I agree 1000% just sold my gen 5 19 because I never shoot it anymore. I lean to my Staccato CS or my Sig X macro. Haven’t touched it in over a year. Main reason is looks and trigger
1) Steel sights. Not everyone will get a dot, and having plastic is embarrassing, or it should be for a duty style gun. 2) Texture and undercuts. This is trivial for Glock to do and goes towards ergonomics. 3) Better optic system like Springfield or Shadow Systems have developed. Honestly the trigger is the least important improvement to me
It's really hard to beat the Blue Label Glock program (for me personally). $450 for an MOS gun that works and requires no mods (for me) out of the box is hard to beat. Finances keep me shooting Glocks, and I don't have a ton of complaints with them.
@@HWG-wm8ld a lot of people who shoot want their gun to look cool. You’re commenting on the video of a guy who paid for x-serrations, does he not shoot?
Adjustable position (deep or shallow from backstrap) mag release for folks w different size hands. Interchangeable backstraps do not offer enough adjustment but it’s a start. Something too to adjust the grip angle. Would both be game changers! Great simple gun (‘im here to shoot a match, not a fashion show’) not pricey and suuuper reliable. Just eats anything i give it. Easy to mod for competitions. Super awesome. Dont break any of those things please!!! 😤 All Imho… 😅
@@HWG-wm8ld Yes indeed 👍😅 I compete w 4 different guns ….makes so it’s tricky to get my index down on each before a match. Not a huge deal but would help a little to tune the grip angles to be the same, sig, glock, revolver, buckmark. Cheers
Gen 6 glocks will be the exact same as they are now….but with finger grooves
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More slide cuts! Holes holes holes!!!
Good, I miss them
Lol
😂
I think I’m in the minority of people that actually like the way Glocks look. Simple and utilitarian. Just like the gun itself.
You're not in the minority, it's just that the extreme gun hobbyists afficionados are a loud and obnoxious minority. The Glock is the most ubiquitous pistol out there, and since guns are their entire personality, they try to make themselves unique by trying to distance themselves from the most common pistol on the market.
Glock owners by and large are the loudest and most obnoxious group in the entire gun community!@@UrbanDefenseSystems
They are like dudes that lift their trucks with $20,000 worth of suspension and run 20” wheels.
You’re in the majority
I’m in this camp too. There’s beauty in simplicity. I personally don’t think a Glock looks any worse than any other gun.
hate to say it, but the echelon was probably everything that glock was thinking about doing for gen 6. the modular chassis, great trigger, great updated slide features, excellent optic system, good set of irons, i really love the echelon. i like how the grip frame profile is shaped like a gen 3 glock but with gen 5 ambi controls. the echelon is by far my favorite striker to day. hate to say it because its a springgfield, but i gotta give em credit. they nailed it, the gun just tracks flat and is a tack driver. they got the barrel lug unlock dwell timing down really good
Don't have to give springfield any credit. They only import them. HS Produkt makes them 100%
@@M8Militarytrue that, good point. hs product did indeed kill it. hs product is a top notch machining company
Pretty much this. What really helps the Echelon as well is the universal optics mount, which seemingly works exceptionally well. That'd be exactly the sort of thing that would reassert Glock dominance if they were indeed the ones to do it first, but they're all in on MOS, and HS beat them to the punch.
@@StagFabulous agreed. the mos system is the shittiest optic system and its suprising that a high pedigree company glock couldnt do better
Their focus is large contracts, not some rube that cries about sights and grip angles. Millions have no issue with it as is and you marys never stop. Buy a Canik
Honestly I hope they keep the Glock aesthetic the same forever. The hilarious never changing square design is funny considering how well they continue to work decades later
They won’t because people already have holsters for them. More people will just buy a new gun than an entire ecosystem
1) Trigger update 2) Grip angle 3) Adjustable back straps and palm swells 4) Not shit sights 5) forward and rear serrations 6) an actual pic rail
Say it louder
all good suggestions. how many will glock implement.......zero.
Grip angle should stay
I wish they would change the the grip angles however they will never do it because of magazine compatibility.
@@lightweight1365 So I am a blood thirsty capitalist, if you change the grip angle you can make new higher capacity mags that will force users to change :D
I've never seen an m&p9 guy become a glock guy. I seen a ton of Glock guys become m&p guys.
What is different.
Grip ergonomics, sights, trigger (worse then/better now) and styling.
Sights and trigger seem the easiest, grip ergonomic seems the highest risk/reward
This is exactly why I chose M&P 2.0 in 2017...spot on
M&P 2.0 for sure
MnP converts checking in.
My 34 is sitting in the safe unused for over a year.
@@nchintalapani I'm glad I didn't listen to my buddy. First pistol was a shield plus. I definitely wish it had a pic rail but I will take my m&p9 to the grave.
I was able to build one with a printed frame for 185$
I've never seen an anything guy become an anything guy. Literally every gun owner I've ever met has a bunch of different pistols, especially within the context of USPSA guys which tend to be handgun afficionados.
The PDP trigger has more to do with the fully cocked striker and the P-99 type sear in the PDP than the trigger itself. It is the same reason why Canik is recognized as having great triggers because they use the P-99 sear.
What's a P-99 sear?
@garyvalenti1019 The Walther P-99 is a pistol that Canik copied the trigger design from. Try a Canik Rival and you will experience heaven in a handgun trigger stock out of the box. The fully pre-cocked striker eliminates the creep you feel in other guns with partially cocked striker systems. In those type trigger systems the creep you feel after the wall is actually the sear drawing the striker back the rest of the way to the fully cocked position, then it breaks and the gun fires. The P-99 trigger is the best striker design trigger and the break can come close to a 1911 trigger. My modified Canik Rival-S breaks clean at 3 pounds with no creep.
1: More grip texture
2: Remove thumb indentation on frame
3: Same trigger with update trigger shoe
Then you’d cry the grip rubs your skin raw.
@@HWG-wm8ld Why are you so angry about what people like? Not everyone has Palmolive hands like you.
Glocks look sleek compared to more modern designs. That being said a version that has modular frames would be interesting especially if they had modules with the classic Glock grip angle and then modules with a 1911 or a S&W M&P grip angle.
One of Glock’s greatest strengths has always been the aftermarket. In the 6th Gen they should make the platform even easier for the extensive network of custom parts manufacturers to build on.
If you build a better gun aftermarket parts aren’t as necessary. Literally the reason why Glock’s aftermarket exists is because even Glock fan bois think Glocks suck.
@@kevinallies1014 CZ has CZ Custom and Cajun Gun Works, SIG has GrayGuns, etc., etc… Every major manufacturer producing a gun with any following has strong aftermarket support. In fact, the absence of an aftermarket might suggest the gun is a flop. Customizing your gun is something people do with guns they like. Guns that I only use for work are the only ones I leave stock.
@@kevinallies1014 This has always got to be the worst excuse for disliking a Glock. Everyone upgrades their pistol whether it be a Glock or a Beretta. As a matter of fact it costs me way more to get my Beretta the way I wanted it, than to get my Glock the way I wanted it. There's expensive aftermarket for everything out there. Walther PDPs people change the recoil spring assembly, they put a heavier aftermarket backstrap, change the extended controls, etc. The only difference is since the Glock is so ubiquitous there's way more after market out there to fill the needs of everybody.
Kevin suffers from short man syndrome
I like the utilitarian look. But trigger, sights and ergonomics have got to be upgraded.
Quit it with the "ergonomics"
Glock now offers steel sights, and there is the performance trigger
They have offered steel night sights for a decade or more. People want their choice of sights and with half running optics, whatever sights they choose, people would cry.
@@jsirius94Performance trigger is just that, a performance trigger. Probably meant a better stock trigger that can function about exactly the same, without having being lubed to every few hundred to a thousand rounds.
Go buy a different gun and shut up
All good points! I think another essential item would be updating the MOS footprint to the RMR cut. Using the Shield RMS footprint is just silly.
Echelon or SS optics mounting system is a better idea
DPP is a better footprint than the RMR but the latter is ubiquitous.
So why not offer the competition version with 2 SKUs.
Trijicon makes great dots, but the footprint sucks and has hindered their design. DPP footprint can take an RMR plate (Sig and Staccato do this), so go that route. If you absolutely must have a direct mount RMR, there’s a ton of aftermarket slide options.
I prefer the Gen3 G17 and will stick with it.
Nothing wrong with that dude, I’d still use the gen 3 but can’t get blue label on them. Try a Johnny trigger shoe, connector and striker spring.
The Gen 6 should be the Gloccato. Put a bunch of cuts and such all over it for cool points, maybe etch something edgy on the slide like an Austrian flag with PERFECCATO emblazoned on it, an add-on magwell that would make Stormy Daniels blush, and then have an MSRP "starting at" $2,500. Have a comp that's like a $750 add-on and some other bits like that. Boom, profit.
"An add on mag well that would make stormy Daniel's blush"
😂😂😂😂
No
Raised my cereal spoon at "6th generation of perfection."
I fully agree. Frame like Shadow Systems, Trigger more like GPT, cooler and deeper slide serrations. 😊😊😊
Spot on as always.
I will riot if they change the simple lines and blocky aesthetic.
They look cool enough as they are.
@@Dannibalcorpse Glocks look like when a kid draws a gun, they are very lame looking lol
You probably like the yellow and purple platypus
No one cries about how a 1911 looks. Has the M&P, Sig, FN …changed? No, it’s a tool but not for tools
@@HWG-wm8ld lol, take your meds.
@@HWG-wm8ld You probably own nothing but Glocks 😂
1. Get rid of the hump at the bottom of the grip and adopt the PDP/CZ P10 style rock in backstrap
2. Angle the serrations
3. Change the grip texture to be like grip tape, add texture to the thumb ledge
4. Change at least the trigger shoe, just swapping in a Ranger Proof Vex or Apex completely changes the feel
5. Put the Extended factory slide release on all Glocks
6. Rework the MOS system, it's just bad compared to everyone else's
Or buy something that you don’t complain about
@@HWG-wm8ld You constantly complain on here.
Maybe this will be a controversial opinion, but - the glock being almost the same it always been has been a key to retaining its market value: backwards compatible, not overly expensive, reliable and ready to have any part of it replaced by extensive aftermarket & accessories offer. I believe the best value for customer is just that: options to upgrade it in any way you see fit, or just leave it as it is for a good purchase value (see a lots of discounts on them in Europe at least) Should it be up to me, having any kind of parallel tuned-up version would be a way to go. For me, Echelon just offerred way more for comparable price. But I can imagine people that play with these guns a lot themselves would still look for the cheapest base version.
Springfield sucks
@@HWG-wm8ld mine works just fine bro ;)
I agree maybe make a different version for that market a Gucci Glock made by glock
I want a hammer-fired glock that takes glock mags.
on point !
The HK VP9 has the juice with the modularity of their grip
What I want to see in a gen 6 glock is a serialized chassis, an option to keep the current grip angle or to change it, an option for a thumb safety, ditch the MOS system for something better, a reinforced slide so it doesnt crack if you accidentally drop it on a hard surface while its disassembled from the frame, a reinforced dust cover to eliminate pig nose and an option for steel mags while still being compatible with current polymer mags. If that seems too much for glock, then maybe the glock can just turn into a sarsilmaz SAR 9 gen 3 😅 Oh boy, that gun feels so much better than a glock gen 5. But seriously, hope glock comes up with a competitive gen 6 for todays market.
thumb safety is pointless for Glocks
Dem see doesn’t shoot
@@HWG-wm8ld yep, not with glocks most of the time 😆
some ideas to think about:
1. Make a gen 6 steel frame competition version.
2. Offer different factory recoil spring weights so we don't need to get aftermarket guide rods.
3. Factory adjustable iron sights with fiberoptic front sight on the competition model.
4. The new TriggerTech trigger will be a big improvement( completely different design, disconnector moved to the slide). Glock should use them or a similar design.
5. Make the Competition model with a 5inch barrel ( its stupid that IPSC does not allow the 34 in production and USPSA will be defunct as an org soon)
6. if not a steel frame, add a metal sleeve or insert in the magwell to reduce the wear from reloads. some guns ive seen look like it became a dog chew toy.
All of these things makes sense. But Glock will probably bring back the 3 pins and finger grooves for gen 6. Perfection perfected.
I'd like a 5" steel framed Glock.
@@prestonwalsh4293 I'd like a 4.6" steel framed Competition pistol
Why do you say USPSA will be defunct soon?
@@whitlock3076 lol it won't. not anytime soon. I don't like the way the org is ran either, but it's like those people who say that any moment now Trump or Hillary or Biden will be locked up, it won't happen.
Anyone else notice when ever Ben's hands move off screen (any direction) it comes back into view with a different gun? Guns everywhere. Ole McBen had a gun...ei ei oh. With G34 here a Staccato P there, here PDP there P320, ole McBen had a gun...ei ei oh.
Glock is like the musket of pistols. With its plastic mags and 1990s look.
When he held up the PDP and the Glock, all I saw was 2020s vs. 1990s.
Like comparing an mp3 to a boombox 😂
Love my Gen 5 Glock 22. 40 still rocks.
I've owned a NIB gen 5 Glock 22 MOS since 2021. I might to use, carry it more, 2024 now that new after market 9x19mm, .357sig gen 5 barrels are now common. KKM, Glock Store etc....
@@DavidLLambertmobile Yep, I am planning to try out an extended Glock 32 barrel in mine, assuming that the Gen 5 Glock 22 is the same in relation to the 23 as the Gen 5 17 and 19 are.
Glock will never change because the aftermarket does all the work of innovation for them.
Happy 4th mate!!!!!
The 6th Generation Glock 17 should be a Polymer framed 2011.
1.Better trigger
2. Looks cool.
I like shooting the Glock performance trigger shoe on a standard trigger bar. I also actually prefer a Gen 3 with a minus connector over a Gen 5.
Thanks for showing love to The Patrol!!!
As former BP (Yuma Sector) it really caught my eye!
That’s why I have 4 shadow systems pistols and 0 Glocks. Better aesthetics, able to change the grip angle and their direct optics mounting system. Hard to beat that overall package for a couple hundred more than a Glock
The slide stop design is one of the biggest hang-ups I've seen for newer shooters.
Learn how to shoot and guess what, you won’t be a new shooter.
@@HWG-wm8ld And what was the point of this video?
@@HWG-wm8ld Doesn't make it any less of a shitty design.
A shitty design that works for thousands of us that have actually used them and not kept in a closet and never shot
@@HWG-wm8ld Why are you against improvement? They could just make the G34 extended stop the standard and it would just be a total benefit for everyone.
Gen 6 - add finger grooves.
Gen 7 -remove finger grooves.
Gen 8 -add finger grooves.
Gen 6 Glock - all models come MOS, extended slide lock/release, metal night sights. Obvi could come with a nicer trigger, if it doesn’t hurt their reliability.
If they styled their slides like the Zev duty slide I think that would be sick
Agreed on those three things and I would add my tinfoil theory:
I think gen6 will come with a similar concept of SIG's FCU so the frame and slide are not serialized and can be bought off the shelf. That will allow Glock to create different grip modules and crank those out like chocolate chip cookies to stoners.
Additionally, the MOS should be re-worked, either by offering OEM metal plates that are as reliable (if not more) than the FCD plates OR by sticking to a single optic footprint like the RMR (just like SIG did with the RMSc).
Nice hat! 👍🏼
the springfield echelon cures whats wrong with glock for those that dont like the glock grip angle, sights, etc, etc.
You are a genius
Platypus is Gen 6
Heavier, less reliable, harder to clean... yeah checks out. Something Glock is likely to do.
@@UrbanDefenseSystems Clearly you've never been to Singapore
@@feetpiece_704 By virtue of it having more moving parts and it's outdated 1911/2011 design, it is inherently objectively a less reliable design than the Glock. If it's reliable enough for you and others, then it's reliable ENOUGH, but not on equal grounds.
@@UrbanDefenseSystems Lmao that's a weak argument 🤣
@@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw Engineering factoids are a weak argument nowadays lol. Jesus Christ.
I think the fact that Glock hasn't even bothered to fix the sights for decades now is proof they dgaf. It would be trivially easy for Glock to put halfway decent sights on their guns and they simply refused to do so.
There is a reason for that professor.
Gun guys will debate for days about this n that…how bout get to work and train…thats what truly matters
Are you from another planet? Bring me home. These humans cry about everything
The amount of money I've spent to turn my Glocks into a stock M&P is ridiculous.
That is on you and it’s just a copy of a Glock. Spend more time getting educated and practicing and non of that matters
I believe it the echelon would have been released by Glock (fitting Glock holsters and taking Glock mags) everyone would have lost their mind and praised them as genius perfection. They really just need to do something similar to that with their name and reliability.
You trying to validate your purchase is weak sauce
@@HWG-wm8ld oh actually I don’t own one, I have little interest in springfield, I just think they took one of the best part of sig (modularity) and the best part of shadow systems (optics cut) and combined them. But I don’t think it’s been out long enough to be vetted
One of Glock’s biggest ergonomic problems is their plastic mags are thicker than metal mags, which makes the grip that much thicker. If they want to make guns that don’t feel like a 2x4, they might have to move away from the thick plastic mags.
Amen to that. The decision to make the mags plastic was awful as it forced the grip to be larger than it had to be. That and the stupid hump!
Tears from clowns
Do you guys seriously have baby hands to the point where a glock is too big for you?
1911 grip angle and steel sights.
Then you’d cry they used the wrong sights. Grip angle is fine. Are you not able to drop your wrist
@@HWG-wm8ldwhy should I drop my wrists when every other manufacturer has figured out what a proper grip angle should be. It’s such a simple fix for Glock but dumbasses like you that love sucking Glocks balls no matter how far they fall behind the competition help keep Glock from moving forward. We get it dude, your Glocks white knight and you’ve responded to every single person trying to help Glock improve. Glock should probably revert back to no light rail, no backstraps and no serrations, am I right? How dare they improve their design?! 😂
You basically described a Shadow Systems. I just bought a MR920 War Poet and love it. Modular backstraps changes the grip angle. Better trigger, better sights and more aggressive stippling and slide cuts. Plus they don't have that cheap ass place for the optics. The screws holding down my SRO go right through to the inside of the slide. Maybe Glock should buyout Shadow Systems.
Shadow systems is cringe.
I agree sights and grip are better, but it doesn’t make it better than glock
I have a Shadow Systems DRP 920 Elite. It's a nice gun but both my G5 34 and 19 triggers were better straight out of the box.
Seriously a Shadow Systems Foundation Series gun is a better gun for the money all the way around than any Glock MOS gun.😎✌️
@@PeekInsideEverytime It would cost you more to upgrade a Glock stippling, slide cuts, etc than it would be to buy a S.S. The plate system for Glock is shit. You literally have 3 threads through pot metal holding your dot. They need to fix that. For that matter, all Glocks should be dot ready.
Stippling and slide cuts are for people that show their guns
Everything you just mentioned, shadow systems offers standard, plus a fantastic optic mounting system.
6th generati9n of perfection made me laugh
IMO the single most important thing they need for gen 6 is to ditch the MOS system and do something similar to the Shadow Systems cut. All it takes is to reengineer the extractor spring plunger to be shorter.
Or send it out like people do
Gen 6 Glocks clearly need to be steel frame SAO hammer fired guns.
I want to see a move to metal mags or frames. Get rid of irons. Offer direct optic cuts. Better more aggressive texture and grip shape.
Metal mags would help slim down the grip on the Glock 21/20 and would increase capacity in the micro 9’s. I know they will never do it though.
Good video and thanks for sharing. The patent protection ending on gen 3's and the flood of copies should give the ideas. The Bul versions seem nearly perfect hope the lean into something like that for the 6th gen. I suspect they won't do much. Be well happy 4th!
I think it's hard to imagine that Glock doesn't switch to a P320-like chassis system. As much as I despise the P320, the chassis system has been a huge leap forward in innovation that's been widely copied. People love modifying their Glocks and I think that allowing them to switch entire grip modules (rather than being screwed if you fuck up while stippling the grip or something) is what the market is screaming for.
If they had a chassis system, I would probably never consider another striker gun ever again. I doubt Glock would get this innovative though.
@@Silverblue-se6iy I believe Zev already does this with the OZ9
@@UrbanDefenseSystems Yeah those are nice but I want Glock to do something similar. It doesn’t make sense not to. They could be selling so many slide and grip options it’d make your head spin. I don’t like Sig’s but they know what they are doing with the P365.
Just buy another Glock, they are $500. When you come home from work every day are you gonna swap out chassis for a compact or subcompact module, no. Just grab your 19 and go.
@@HWG-wm8ld It takes 5 seconds to get the chassis out of a Sig P320. Sure you can buy a new Glock, but why not just offer a chassis and let people pick their ideal slides and frames? Why would you not want the option to swap out grip modules? You could take the Glock 17/19 and swap to a Glock 26 sized grip if you were going somewhere or wearing something, where having a full size gun is going to be harder to conceal.
All I want is a nicer trigger and bring back the RTF(rough texture finish). I did buy the new version 2 Glock Performance Trigger and they really improved its very nice. Little pre-travel, wall, nice break.
If I could whisper Dowager Glock’s ear:
- Next Glock doesn’t need to be a chassis gun, but it should have a subframe the size of a magazine and completely removable wraparound grips. Could do palmswells and even grip angle options. Even a fingergroove frontstrap option. Think of the profit margin opportunity as an accessory.
- Screw the current GPT. Don’t half-ass a comp trigger. Lean into it. It needs travel adjustments, or at least a way to cut down on zero-weight overtravel. Integrate it into a G6 “performance” line with comp triggers as a factory option.
- MOS needs a redo. License one of the improved systems as a factory option, and while we’re at it, kill the rear slide dovetail. Integrate a rear sight into the cover plate. One less machining cut on all slides and another high profit margin accessory (different OEM rear sight cover plates-e.g., a target model, a suppressor height model for guns with high front sights).
I’m a former Glock fanboy. I still like them, but the M&P made changes and did it right. I’m going the way of the M&P and not looking back.
Ben Simonson at Boresight Solutions does a razorback grip mod. If the came like that from the factory, I’d be one happy camper.
IMO Glock's philosophy is making what most people consider good enough while making the cost of manufacturing as low as possible.
a factory compensator offering would be nice
Why not a choice of colors and roll marks
The Glock is the Jeep Wrangler of guns. You need to swap out all that perfection for your preference. My first was a glock (gen 3). I don't own it anymore, not going back to the brand.
Gen 6 should just be a foundations series Shadow Systems with a decent price.
Keep it blocky!
Serialized FCU like the sig
Steel frame competition series
All good points, but I have little faith they would make any of those improvements.
They should also improve their barrel lockup. Most Glocks I’ve checked have a loose barrel fit compared to any other brand. I can usually push the top of the barrel around with my thumb. I’ve never been able to do that with other brands. Some may argue it doesn’t matter or that it isn’t common, but it was common in those Glocks I’ve had an opportunity to check. It would stand to reason that a loose barrel fit would impact accuracy.
So I can buy the Gen6 Glock now at stores and it's called the PDP. GOt it.
I have a g17 gen5 for “duty” but I shoot a pdp for competitive stuff just cause like you said it’s cooler lol. It just looks and feels better thats literally the only reason.
1) stock sights. 2) trigger 3) texture/grip angle/looks. 4) direct mounting system similar to Shadow Systems/Echelon.
The modular chassis would be cool but I don’t think it’ll pass Glocks reliability standards.
If They Included A Switch... Chiraq Special... 🤣
User name fits 😅
@@amosmoses9247 For telling the truth?
@@UrbanDefenseSystems Comment was before the edit.
Blackout rear sights fiber optic front, better trigger, grip modularity.
I think it may be an important point to acknowledge that more innovation may be possible after the passing of Mr Glock. Not that I'd expect anything revolutionary but it may be more possible than before.
They should do a “pro” series like the pdp. Have an upgraded trigger, sights and magwell.
If Glock really wants to innovate, start putting a high quality red dot on every handgun, already sighted in at the factory. Eventually, I wanna see futuristic sights like the video game destiny, where the front and rear sights are free floating lasers. That would sick af boi.
You win the tool of the year award.
My wish list:
1) Steel sights
2) Front sight that dovetails in instead of being held in with a teeny-weeny screw
3) bigger trigger guard (yes, this would almost certainly destroy holster compatibility)
4) better trigger (Walther or Canik would be something to emulate)
I'm old enough to remember when Glock was the only game in town when it came to the plastic frame, striker fired thing that everyone does today. That's a big part of why I started shooting them. I'm looking at other options today but I wish that Glock would just make a few changes... so that I don't have to. xD
Maybe if they had a few tissues in the box
I think the biggest improvement they could make is to the MOS system. I think a complete rework would be ideal. Something that uses spacers with screws going directly from the RDS into the gun would be a great improvement.
Has the Glock trigger changed mush since the gen 1?
The changes you suggest AND offer the G46 rotating barrel model to the US market with a good trigger.
They're so far behind other manufacturers that they kinda need to copy them to match. Removable chassis system like the p365, metal 15 round mags for the 43x, a grip chopped 43x with 10 round mags to compete with the p365 for better concealed carry would be a start.
I just want them to introduce enough models so I can say I own a G69.
They have really dug in their heels on the slow rate of change, so I don't see that changing. They might be better off with Legacy style models and coming out with some kind of "new coke" line with a larger frame/module re-design but the old faithful still has demand and as long as money is coming in the door it will stay. I love my CZ P-10C and VP9, but the Glock still has a home (it's the most mod'd of my pistols)
Due to the size of the mag, I think it might be hard to shape the grip in a much improved manner without making it too large for many to like.
You forgot decent sights. If Glock would spend $3-$5 more per gun, they could come up with some sights like those that come on SiGS or Hellcats that are perfectly useable.
I think Glock has got away with not making big updates because the aftermarket support is so vast. Everything mentioned can be had to your liking using aftermarket parts
They only thing I would add, personally, is serrations on the top part of the slide near the front. I get more contact with my hand on top compared to the sides.
Add them yourself. I can run my slide without any serrated shit.
I’d like to see “heavy competition” options, be that steel (never going to happen) or tungsten infused.
How about fixing what everybody (almost) changes 1. sights 2. Grippier grip (maybe les like a plastic 2x4) and the trigger. Hey, what if they put in a trigger from....Glock Triggers. Now there is an idea.
they would just blow up the market if the glock platform.. here me out
Released a 1911 ish angle. to buy...
and thats the banger.. then you bring all the haters
well most
Gen 6 needs an rmr hd or rcr built into the slide
I agree 1000% just sold my gen 5 19 because I never shoot it anymore. I lean to my Staccato CS or my Sig X macro. Haven’t touched it in over a year. Main reason is looks and trigger
I am the opposite. I bought a XC and it is overrated a hell. Sold it after 50 rounds and going back to using my Glocks
@@tylerpalmer2388 😂 you do you man.
Glock needs to copy the HK P30 grip and/or develop a design with a removable chassis system.
They need to undercut the trigger guard for Gen 6
1) Steel sights. Not everyone will get a dot, and having plastic is embarrassing, or it should be for a duty style gun. 2) Texture and undercuts. This is trivial for Glock to do and goes towards ergonomics. 3) Better optic system like Springfield or Shadow Systems have developed.
Honestly the trigger is the least important improvement to me
It's really hard to beat the Blue Label Glock program (for me personally). $450 for an MOS gun that works and requires no mods (for me) out of the box is hard to beat. Finances keep me shooting Glocks, and I don't have a ton of complaints with them.
Metal sights, and texture the grip like an M&P 2.0. That's all they need to do different.
Sights are available at optics planet and the grip is fine.
I think they should move from browning tilt mechanism to Boberg operating system like on Archon Type B
They should finally make a metal frame haha 😂that be so cool
I picked up a used Zev Duty slide mostly for looks, absolutely would do it again. Way better serrations and better looking.
That crap doesn’t matter to people that shoot.
@@HWG-wm8ld a lot of people who shoot want their gun to look cool. You’re commenting on the video of a guy who paid for x-serrations, does he not shoot?
forward canted slide serrations that work.
Maybe get some hand strength
@@HWG-wm8ld cry more
Adjustable position (deep or shallow from backstrap) mag release for folks w different size hands. Interchangeable backstraps do not offer enough adjustment but it’s a start. Something too to adjust the grip angle. Would both be game changers! Great simple gun (‘im here to shoot a match, not a fashion show’) not pricey and suuuper reliable. Just eats anything i give it. Easy to mod for competitions. Super awesome. Dont break any of those things please!!! 😤
All Imho… 😅
Bend your wrist, grip angle fixed. Wow, never thought of that
@@HWG-wm8ld Yes indeed 👍😅
I compete w 4 different guns ….makes so it’s tricky to get my index down on each before a match.
Not a huge deal but would help a little to tune the grip angles to be the same, sig, glock, revolver, buckmark.
Cheers