SIG CEO Interview - Ron Cohen talks to an idiot about gun stuff
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- The CEO of SIG Sauer took the time to sit down with me at the recent SIG Next event to talk shop. While I would have more appreciated to make this more like "Between Two Ferns" I also couldn't waste an opportunity to ask questions I was curious about.
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How can i take this guy seriously bro, he is not on roids, is not all tatted up, no unkept beard, and isnt wearing NODS? He didnt say work space or talk about AIWB or have his spear slung at the ready. Where are his videos with receipts?
And a shirt 3 sizes to small
And 511 pants and gatorz
Nice hand movement
The OG proliferator of India MIM.
@christopherjohnson2171 😂....I was prompted with the "Translate to English" option for your comment
Only the best for the gentiles. 😂
Add damaging Kimber's reputation to that.
Met Ron a few times. He's a real sincere and intelligent businessman. I support his decisions hes made with the company.
P.S. you’re not an idiot 😇 you’re the king of BDE, a great husband and father, a savage with the dad jokes, and one hell of a shooter 💯🫡 we all love and appreciate you brother
Aww thanks 🥰
All I can hear in my head is Ren & Stimpy: “IDIOT!”
I wish more gun manufacturers would innovate like Sig and I love the fact that the CEO understands how important it is to grow the shooting sports
:|
Innovate 💀😩🤣
Love the innovation. Hate the execution on some of their products. Their reliability can be questionable.
Regardless of people’s opinions of Sig, that was a great interview. Especially since you said you weren’t expecting it. I always find it interesting to hear CEOs of successful companies speak somewhat candidly. You can learn a lot if you pay attention. Well done, man!
Great video. I appreciate the way you articulated your questions. Sometimes these type of videos can seem awkward, this was a very natural and enjoyable video. Thank you for the great content.
Man, could you imagine if they had a range that walked you and a few people through like 3 or 4 shooting stages and tallied up the scores in the end. I've always said Golf is what shooting sports should be in America
ShootSIG?
I’ve always preferred a hammer and a nicely shaped beaver tail. Looks better and performs better in my opinion. Less likely to give you a light primer strike and pretty much impossible to get slide bite unless you’re trying to lol
Increased safety when re-holstering!
@@bryanduchane2371 a decent holster gets rid of any and all safety issues when holstering a pistol. 99.9% of all negligent discharges are operator errors, including the p320 nonsense. I run lights on all my carry pistols and the light bearing holsters don’t make contact with the inside of the trigger guard like a non light bearing holster does. If you’ve got your finger off the trigger then it’s basically impossible to holster your weapon in an unsafe manor.
Outstanding interview , questions and opportunity to understand the culture of Sig. The CEO clearly drives that culture and seems extraordinary. No surprise ! We need more American based companies to actually be American companies.
Outstanding interview? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Did we watch the same piece?
No, it was right up there with an NPR interview of Barack Obama.
Yes, semi-interesting, but more info-mercial than interview.
I like HumbleMarksman videos, but let's be honest and call it what it is.
'American'
Lol American company? More like Israeli owned, Indian MIM importing company with horrible quality control.
Really enjoyed this video, and was particularly intrigued by the data Ron shared re: how most gun owners don't actually shoot.
Kudos to Humble. Always educating and entertaining. ❤
I love my M18 Commemorative... but seriously... if SIG would get QC together, I'd buy more P320s-and other SIG products-than just the one I own.
Sig has the best research, development, and engineering teams in the business and the P365 series reflects this in overall excellence.
Lot of hate in the comments, while I understand the sig hate (beta testing, lawsuit, safety)
Many manufacturers have the same problems but not nearly the coverage.
I have a good amount of sig guns both older and newer.
Sigs customers service is great for a big company.
I’ve worked as an armorer and a gunsmith handling, sometimes warranty stuff.
I’ve shot and handled a lot of sig products and I enjoy them, I’ve had some p320s that have been clapped to hell and back and still do not have any of the issues mentioned, not saying they don’t exist, merely stating I have a different viewpoint where I get to see a larger sample size.
My mcx shoots good.
I still shoot glocks
I carry a 1911 even though the internet says I’ll get kilt in the streets.
Sometimes I just don’t argeed with the internet hivemind and think for myself.
I like sig.
Awesome interview thank you HumbleMarksman
>Many manufacturers have the same problems but not nearly the coverage.
Shows how younger people are getting into guns. When I was a young warthog back in the day it was Glock in the spotlight with "glock leg", which was when departments started mass issuing glocks vs other "wonder 9's" that had external safeties.
@@Clockwork0nions I remember that also, and Glock had the same issue of many lawsuits claiming the guns were unsafe, but in the end it turned out LE agency’s just not owning up to mishandling and poor training.
Fast forward no one would ever claim the Glock is un safe .
i wish sig would sell the 8 in mpx again. i don't have little trex arms so i want the longer handguard and barrel. also 320 fcu with safety or at least the cutout like the 365
Great interview, thanks for the operant to see this.
Great interview. I love that store, it’s nice close but I haven’t used the range yet.
Great Interview. I’m lucky enough to live near the NH SIG Academy and have taken over a dozen courses. It’s a special place. Great instructors.
An excellent insight from a very knowable individual into the future. It is good to see Sig's development of their electronic sights. I had one of their earlier MRDs and was very disappointed in it. I may have to change my view of their dependable in the EDC role.
When is sig going to come out with a ported and comped P320?
dump a quarter of that marketing money into quality control and fix the absurd pricing models
yet you still buy their products, don't you?
@@JoeWinter-ky8xo some of them are worthwhile, some are not. The only ones that I own are the ones which give me functionality I cant get with other platforms. Mostly used when the price is sensible and I've been happy with them so far.
The optics started out trash, and though improved haven't gotten any better than holosun, etc. 5k for a SPEAR is stupid when other rifles with similar capabilities sell for 2.5k. The barrel bending stuff with the LT was unconscionable, as was the drop fire problems with the P320. There is no good reason for those things to happen besides being a cheapass and letting the customer quality test your guns for you which undercuts the SIG quality perception needlessly. FN, PWS, LMT, POF, DD make fine and equivalent weapons for 2.5K without the quality control concerns.
The only thing that separates the MCX from other piston guns is the lack of a buffer tube and the presence of a dust cover in some cases. That's it. The new URX from primary weapons has better modularity and true multi cal capability without losing more than .5 MOA.
the 365 was a huge success, and a great product in my opinion. I've seen used ones priced at the point of a new FCU. Again had striker problems and coating issues to start that should have been solved in the quality control department.
Do fanboys and idiots with money to burn make good customers sure. Kimber found that out. It's easy money getting less savvy people to spend money on new shiny things that just have a new color or whatnot. I think that behavior tarnishes SIG brand needlessly.
Spending a bit more on quality control so your products don't shoot off bullets when they aren't supposed to, so the barrel stays true when you shoot it... These are problems that can be fixed by just a bit more money put into your quality control department. You like making a shit ton of money with your carnival show business model, fine. Just make sure the guns work BEFORE you send them out to the public.
The idea of having two dots for supersonic and subsonic 300blk? Great idea! Does it solve a problem worth more than $7000? Absolutely fucking not unless you are gouging the taxpayer selling them to the military. Others will just come along and put together the same idea for a sensible price while that shit gathers dust on the shelf.
Overall I like sig products. I like innovation, I like modularity. I like new ideas and new stuff for the gun community. I think it's great. Then they take a big shit in the punch bowl by over-pricing hype and under-delivering quality. That pisses me off. And it pisses a lot of people off.
Take the FUSE. It's just a longer barrel and longer grip. Who gives a fuck. 900 bucks? No. It's just trying to make more money from doing nothing. There are other long slides out there aftermarket. What is its purpose? What is the purpose of painting the 320 XTEN a new color and calling it a new model? Take that stupid fucking marketing bullshit money and put it into quality. It's just irritating.
I'm thinking of getting a Sig p365 x macro but I've seen rust issues, are this common or maybe people sweat like pigs?
I've carried mine everyday for 7 months now and it looks as good as new. Great gun imo.
Yes it is a common issue. I have the X MACRO and so far I’ve had to clean off light superficial rust on the iron sights once. I don’t sweat like a pig but I have owned the pistol since December 2024, and carry it almost everyday in the appendix position and it does get sweaty. The finish on the sig mags and iron sights is just prone to rust. No this isn’t normal with other pistols no matter how much you sweat. Also I don’t live in a humid climate, it’s leaning towards the dry side actually.
Every month or so just clean and coat the rust prone areas with CLP if you get the pistol. For me I wouldn’t call it a deal breaker just a little extra maintenance. However none of my guns even cheap ones are rust prone like the Sig X Marco. And I own more gun than I can count on two hands.
This is the biggest repeated issue I’ve seen with the 365 line
I have 3 365s and have never even heard of rust issues? I am guessing rumors from glocktards.
Good interview. I would like to see them bring a range/store training facility to Texas.
The contracts, the quality, the cohen.... its all starting to make sense.
The cats out of the bag by now. More and more people will notice what they think about us, their networking, their hyper-nepotism, and their teachings about us vs them, etc. They're basically a giant Mafia
Elders of zion
Ask Cohen about discontinuing models and not supporting them with parts.
Wow awesome video, plus with the podcast, did you just gave a masterclass in business proposal for USPSA. Interesting way to promote practical shooting to the masses. Hopefully SIG and other manufacturers can hear your podcast and build a broadcast package for local, area and foreign clubs to show the world the beauty of practical shooting sport. 👌🏼
A boy can dream
Enjoyed the interview
How about a p226 da/sa with a grey guns da trigger? And a true da/sa compaxt
Grey Guns is releasing their own custom P226, kind of like a LTT 92 RDO.
Ask Cohen about poor SIG QC and things like rusts issues on and off with the P365 series
Greatest infomercial ever! Top Golf, Pelaton, Facebook, Netflix. I've heard of those companies. I guess Sig must be amazing. Forget the guns, buy Sig stock! Excellent marketing and their sales prove it. But wait there's more... Order any Sig pistol in the next 30 minutes and we'll make a new version of your gun to sell you our new "innovative" design just a week later!!! it. 😂
I hear you. Wish they'd make less models of better quality. Love there innovation though.
The CEO of the least accountable company in the industry!
the former ceo of kimber screwed up sig I'm shocked i tell you shocked / sarcasm
I too remember when Kimber 1911's where a good deal and realible out of the box. Before they released 900 versions on the same gun and QC went to sh........😂
@@BrianKern2121Kimber didn’t make ANY 1911s before Ron Cohen
They need to make a smaller polymer SignP2022.
Then make a Flux type for the 226-229 or one that's just a universal fit.
Sig pistol optics recently got a hippo kilt in the streets (the mean streets of USPSA Carry Optics Nationals)
Yeah heard about that. That was not the US made ones tho - I think it will make a big difference
That is one of the nicest gun facility I’ve visited, did so at a Legion Day! Enjoy your visit! And yes I own an Sig Legion handgun, my favorite .
always interesting to hear the thoughts of the guy who steers the ship. Note to self - invest in new / alternate tech ammunition suppliers. Gotta finagle an invite to visit the brains at Gardone Val Trompia, Italia
3 things - 1st, great interview. 2nd I would love a "top golf" type shooting range. 3rd, can sig for the love of all that is holy, put out s performance trigger instead of another 365 variation....
I like to have a Manual Safety .
gettin SIGgy wit it!... just adding some dad energy.. no charge
Ask Cohen about using MIM parts made in India 🇮🇳 by a company called Indio-Metal
“Grandstand with a bunch of questions he won’t answer” - got it - cool idea
Did you ask him when they will issue an official recall on the early production 320s? The ones that go off with no input from the shooter?
I though they did a recall for the P320, but that was omly for the one that would fire do to trigger inertia issue
@@BrianKern2121 SIG has denied responsibility and blamed all the unintentional shots on either the shooter or the holster.
Even with body cam evidence of fingers outside trigger guards/ guns still in holster.
Recently a cop in Texas was shot in the leg by his holstered 320.
There is no excuse, they need to take responsibility and stop denying the issues. People are being hurt due to their negligence
@@Luke-id1cp I was under the impression that the self fire P320 was a continuing issue with the P320 line, not just limited to the early production of the P320.
@@BrianKern2121 They never called it a recall. They called it a "voluntary upgrade program" so that they could deflect any sort of responsibility on their part.
@@BrianKern2121 It is definitely possible
Sig owns everybody.
Sionist International Group?
Very good interview and damn impressive if it was impromptu well done sir thank you! The strategic decision to avoid the 320 saga and legal matters was brilliant; he wasn't going to offer anything of substance given it's active litigation and it may have limited his desire to expand on the topics you did cover. I really enjoy my P365 and am often interested in Sig products, but never quite chase them like some others. After this candid interview I may chase them a little more. Ron seems like a very nice person that highly values the community, his family, his team and company, and innovation not sure what else we can hope for in a 2A company. Be well fine sir thanks for going to this and putting up with the shill-type of moronic abuse in the comments.
Yeah they let me know about 3 hours in advance we’d be doing an interview - I made due with the cameras I had - I didn’t have what I would have wanted on hand had I known
@@TheHumbleMarksman sorry I watched the video before I saw your locals post with additional details. Still that was a great interview on 3 hours notice especially after a morning on the range. Thanks for doing this sort of content, and a look at future trends and projects with someone of his stature was legit. That new targeting app you referenced a bit ago really came to life we he discussed making shooting more approachable and collaborative even though it just looks cool with near instant feed back to me ha!
Good call not bringing up the 320 issues. Even if lawsuits were over, the response would not be sufficient in my opinion.
2055….no sights on the gun….glasses with an electronic sight….lens changes with light conditions…music/ear protection…magnifcation/de magnification ability…night vision…and a flashlight…..I have a dream
That day is coming sooner than later. Will be adopted by police departments and incorporate other heads up days display about police related information or case updates, car speeds, and etc.. Wearable heads up display similar to what fighter pilots wear!
I know it’s , Ron….but am I wrong for wishing you had kept the shades on for the interview? 😅
Is this the same dude who destroyed KIMBER? Which they are trying to recover from.
Destroyed? Had you heard of Kimber before Cohen? Not to mention he hasn't been there for years and they have done little to change that. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I don't know that that is a fair assessment.
@@CrazyLegz72 I’d say they are doing a bit to change that. The new KDS9c is amazing, with less MIM I may add, and now offer a lifetime warranty.
Revolutionary ammo? Nah, that's the HK G11
What a lot of people want to know is, when is Sig going to get into the Double stack 1911/2011 game? There is such an opportunity to get in to that category while it's still hot. Staccato and Bull Armory seem to be sitting at or near the top. Along with a few others as well. Sig should sit right above them at a cost that will drive business their direction.
They have the P210. If they change the frame to take P226 or P320 magazines, add a rail, and make it RDS friendly, Sig would have a decent contender to the 2011 market. Instead, they will just continued with the 226 SAO with 39 different variations.
@@BrianKern2121
It doesn't work like that. The ergos are shit if they go to double stack, the trigger has to still move around the mag upwards. Not every company has to be in every market.
All military members know how to shoot iron sights
Ron should helm Glock next. That would be fun.
Nice work David. Dig this.
If sig put the amount of energy into making good guns that they do into everything else that they do, sig might be a solid gun company. But their marketing probably works way better.
They were once thought of as top shelf products... now i wont touch them with a ten foot pole.
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This is America we should have our tax dollars building ranges across America, now that's protecting Americans allowing everyone to have easy access to a range 🇺🇸😯
SIG is a marketing firm posing as a firearms manufacturer at this point clout dont shoot
Ask Cohen about beta testing on consumers
Curious when the Flux thumb remover lawsuits begin. Also, will Sig drop a $2000 2011 soon?
The Flux Raider has been around for a few years, I haven't heard of anyone removing their thumbs yet.
It is a manual transmission and not a stick shift just like a magazine is not a clip!
First off I like and appreciate your content but I can’t support Sig. They lie about their inferior coating in one of their most popular products the 365. Their customer service representatives are trained to deflect and lie spinning a bunch of bullshit that they think people are going to believe..
I always wondered why sig was getting all the contracts and now i get it. When i saw the dudes name it all came together. Making kosher guns for a kosher government
Must be tough for you to go through life being this dumb
All you have to say is KIMBER he destroyed that company. Sig will be next
Man, the shortness of the barrel on that FLUX Raider makes me super uneasy. I'm sure it's a non-issue, but those angles make it look dicey.
Many sub guns only have 4” barrels like the MP5k. Not much different than the flux. Except you loose all the weight and bulk that makes it a better ccw item
@@donh1572 I'm aware. I'm referring specifically to how the bottom of the chassis protrudes past the barrel. If you're not careful and wrap your thumb higher, it could end up in front of the muzzle.
@evey0259
Hard same. I have been wondering why they don't make an extended barrel that aligns with the dust cover and clears your thumb. Would also be better ballistically and aesthetically.
Not for inexperienced shooters for sure... They can kiss bye bye to their thumbs
What are the “P320 issues and lawsuits “?
There are a dozen or so cases of people trying to find a way to sue Sig for “uncommanded firings” - guns allegedly going off. Some of them are just bad and clearly negligence some are head scratching
@@TheHumbleMarksman Ok, you are talking years ago stuff. I thought that was well behind them.
no they are battling few a couple - around the time this video dropped they had a ruling go against them that they are appealing.
Did you ask him about that illegal weapon shipment to Columbia that he took a plea bargain to avoid jail for?
Riiight. No US laws were broken. Let's support the bogus charges levied against almost all German small arms manufacturers (HK, Sig, Walther, etc.) in the last 10 years by their gun-grabbing politicians and the corrupt and hypocrtitical ENAAT, currently lobbying to influence US gun laws to reflect the EU's "norms of the Common position". Gun bans, basically.
Bruh u was watching this in the car on the way to work when you said that line.. had to look around making sure you weren’t spying on me
Won't ask him about the drop thing? Wuss! 😂
What are you CNN. Ask him how Max got bald. Ask him what the names of his dogs are, or what flavor of ice cream he likes? I remember a day when you would have asked these questions and not giving some manby pamby excuse.
Maybe afterward we can go play softball. 👍
Haha. He's just like Cokie Roberts interviewing Obama😂
😂😂😂@@JD-tn5lz
I can smell company and consumer denial the min I saw the caption 💀
oh cohen? yeah pass
Omg. I literally just noticed you have heterochromia after watching tons of your videos!
I had to look that up as my eyes were always just told to me as being "hazel" - which is apparently the same thing.
Sig is no doubt innovating and popularizing cool new things.
However, doing so by beta testing on customers and being somewhere between intransparent and dishonest about it is an issue.
Yeah, I stopped as soon as I heard Cohen selling pistol dots.
As an instructor and as an LEO, I wanted to vomit.
Okay, so now maybe I'll find a local chapter of Sig Haters International.
"Cohen"..... Hoïv Ey 🤮
I wish sig made good guns
Ron Cohen sucks. Although the most innovative company in the firearms industry, their reputation went downhill under his watch and they haven’t done much to fix it.
He needs to go and Sig needs to bring in someone that cares about restoring their image and making sure that QC is a top priority.
As innovative as Thomas Edison.
I strategically decided not to because I want to maintain my relationship with SIG so they keep sending me free guns and products for content on my channel.
FTFY
Found the guy who has never had to deal with lawyers or any sort of PR campaign
His response to James was entirely predictable if you have any experience with anything PR related
Hey, maybe get him to adress the absolute awful QC at sig that has made their once top tier brand become a joke instead of doing interviews. I wont touch ANYTHING made by them in the last 5 years. Not even my beloved 226 or 229. And lets not even get into the absolute debacle of the sig p320. They will go bankrupt if they were to admit that has design flaws. SIG should be a NO go for everyone until they get their crap together. Bottom tier dangerous junk. So far from where they once were. Ive got an early 90s 226 and its gerogeous...shot a modern one with the finish worn off after 2 weeks and metal wear. Sig is equivilent to the early 2000s taurus. Thats how terrible their qc is.
Heres a video that adresses ALL of the countless problems. Get sig to fix their huge problem.
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