When Classical Musicians "Try Out" Jazz...
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- čas přidán 2. 10. 2021
- Based on some real life experiences. Because switching from classical music to jazz is a trip. Especially when sheet music is your security blanket.
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I'm a classical cellist, and two years ago I met a friend that introduced me to jazz. Listening to him and his classmates talk about jazz notation, I'd never been so confused in my life.
Fun fact: Coltrane introduced the triangle for a major chord: ‘the perfect symbol’ (aka nice shiftable symmetrical shape in circle of fifths) for the sound of ‘GOD’ (aka major sound)
Anyway, nice vid! :)
I didn't know that! That's pretty cool!
"Theory could be daunting and strange. Just like learning a new and not so related language to the ones you know."
-what I'll tell myself if I ever 'try out' jazz as a classical musician
This is priceless! … so endearing to see a classical pianist poke fun at herself. I’m in awe of both types of pianists… for very different reasons… but what they have in common is the tremendous dedication and discipline involved in mastering the music.
"Hey, you like Jazz?" -Some thing.
That was a fun video to watch!
Loved this video! I suck at both classical & jazz but I have a much better feel for jazz.
girl, I LOVE IT! LOL
so real and so cool hehehe
As a classical musician how just started doing jazz a few months ago, I understand that to some degree. I play the viola, so I don't have to worry about playing melody and harmony at one time, but I did have to learn how to improvise. That was a bit intimidating for a while.
I have taught classically trained musicians how to play jazz many times. It helps to teach them the difference in approach.
Classical is prerecorded music for the most part. And the artist is largely considered to be the composer. Sheet music it treated like it is unchangeable because it was the only recording process music could ho through for hundreds of years. The player is a vehicle for the composer's ideas to travel across distance and time.
Jazz came up as recording did. "If you want to hear Charlie Parker, you can listen to him any time. This is *my* version". Now the composer is the vehicle and the individual player is now the artist.
Teaching classical musicians to improvise is always funny. They often have a "tell me what to play" approach and eventually make a remark that it sounds like a bunch of wrong notes. I remind them that all the greats of their viennese Classical era could improvise and often did it live for fun at salons and parties. ut yeah, then you get into bending notes and other jazz/blues techniques and most get really defensive that these are wrong and are going to ruin their ear or whatever. There are snobs on both sides of the coin. But they mostly seem to be on the classical side. I think it's because they're threatened and don't understand so they judge and try to rise above it. LOL, ironic and sad......
Haha great video.
Quite surprising to hear that Bobby Timmons's " Moanin' "is the one being featured in here.
Classical musicians should has some experience with basso continuo in the least.
Me: plays random notes
People watching: wow what great jazz music!
No only really trained listeners could enjoy that, generally you have to not play entirely random notes if you dont wanna sound bad
Beginner : I have no idea what notes I just played
Professional jazz musician after improvising : I have no idea what notes I just played
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cat walks on the piano
Me: Cool jazz
Classical pianists perform the notes that someone else has worked out for them; often a hundred years previously or more. Jazz pianists compose (once improvising away from the given melody), arrange and perform simultaneously in real time on the gig. The chord symbols each present hundreds of alternative choices with respect to how chord tones are distributed around the keyboard and which may be altered, added or omitted. To do this they need to understand music theory at it's most complex and to compute a score in their own heads many times per second all the time they are playing. In addition they need to be musically inventive, responsive to other players in the band and to exercise artistic judgement and good taste while being supremely virtuosic on the keys. They also need to have a thorough appreciation of the work of the many jazz greats which have preceded them over the past century. Scary? You bet! However, jazz musicians get the satisfaction of creating new music every time they play. Classical musicians miss out on this. And, don't forget, the jazz repertoire has most of the best tunes. Sadly, the majority of jazz musicians are poorly paid for pursuing their art so maybe one should stick with the Chopin.
As a jazz Hammond player, I get a bit raged listening to solo classical piano. The whole time I'm thinking: keep time god damn it, fill in the right hand voicing!!
Classical music is about expression, not keeping strictly the time unless it's a dance. And even in dances, you have to "breathe" at the end of sentences
All music is about expression. That doesn't mean we do away with the meter. All music doesn't have to always be in strict time, but it's kind of stupid to have these beautiful compositions and always have to screw with the time and make them all melodramatic. It's more effective if the rhythms are tied to the tempo, instead of this annoying, jerky, constant rubato.
@@clintjones9848 Jazz is firstly about rhythm (does it swing? does it groove?) and keeping the time. In pop music there's less expressivity and no rubato. Rubato is a matter of taste : too less and it lacks of expression, too much and it ruins the piece. 2nd half of XIXth century pieces are the one we can use more rubato. But even in Baroque music we breathe at the end of a sentence. By "expression" I meant close to spoken language : we don't "keep the time" when we speak
I understand rubato is called for and customary, I just don't really care for the performers screwing with the time constantly in most solo classical piano recordings. I think it sounds really disgusting and messes up the nice composition. In my opinion there is room for interpretations that are played accurately and not melodramatically.
As a classical pianist, jazz voicing are shit.
This is so funny
triangle is maj7 not maj
If classical musicians want to learn to play without sheet music, jazz is not the best starting point for everybody. Try folk songs of children songs, a bit like Bartok did in his educational pieces. Practice to play melodies that you can already sing (it will teach you to sing on your instrument). Get inspired by classical impro forms like Grounds and ostinato's (Pachelbell, Dowland), bourdons (Orff, Strawinsky), baroque ballads and preludes, variations over a theme (e.g. La Folia or The Trout). Try to play with a loop station and play together with your own echo. Try improvising in an atonal style, with focus on rythm and expression instead of 'the right notes'. Most jazz music is no really free music, there are a lot of do's and don'ts and if you do it wrong, it often sounds crap. You may get demotivated and feel the pressure that you have to study a lot of theory (again). In my experience, it is much more liberating to take smaller steps. This comment is not meant to criticise jazz (I play it a lot myself, also on CZcams, look for Bach invention Reinvented), but to give classical musicians an alternative route to freedom and fun. And maybe later turn to jazz and pop music.
Classical musicians know how to play without sheet music, and a lot of them know how to improvise, actually, plenty of classical musicians still improvise the cadenzas. Remember classical musicians are also musicians.
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Classical Music is a Synchronized Ecosystem
Jazz is Radom chaos
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Just paint your face black
Oh dear god
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