Laney Cub-Super 12 Demo
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
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Probably the best amp demo ever on the entire internet. To the point, no stupid talking, trying humbucker and a single coil guitar, showing what the guitarist is actually adjusting on the amp. I wish every demo be like this
Thank you!!! For properly demoing. He plays the same riff while showing the least, middle and most of each knob giving a clear bench mark sound for each feature. As opposed to many demoers who noodle and talk at the same time while showing none of the settings! Bravo!
Laney, the most underrated Amps ever,
I loved my Lionheart..
I plugged in my Laney VC-30 and turned the volume too 7 with gain at 6 and it was the best amp tone ive ever had with any of my tube amps !
The best natural breakup with dynamic range was nirvana , slapping chords and hear the great breakup then clean right up for awesome tones !
Its a shame its too loud in my home , i use a 5watt BadCat cougar w/vintage 30 speaker at home now but i will never sell the Laney !
@@ijamsum Im trying to decide between VC15 and Cub12R. They are both at same price here in my city. Both used. VC15 is older ofcourse. Any suggestions?
@@aalperuzunget the EVH!
I've got the Cub 15 head and cab from a few years back. It's a one trick pony, but what a trick! Great value! Doesn't get used all the time, but when I do I neglect the other amps for weeks at a time
Same. I have the combo and once I start with it, I can't be bothered with my other amps for a while.
It's a great pedal platform amp.
Same, I love my Cub 15 head through a Marshall 4x12. It's my backup if the Marshall goes down, but in a way I love it more. A classic rock machine.
I’ve had the combo and it’s got such a sweet, lush tone. I swapped out v1 for a 5751 to smooth out the drive and added a WGS Reaper and it’s such a killer grab and go amp. I reached out to Laney recently regarding them making a 30 watt version. I really hope they do cause that would be such a nice pedal platform for gigging.
It's wild to me that people spend thousands on amps that don't sound at all better than this. There's nothing really "expensive" about "good" guitar tone. Even a lot of SS amps will get you similar vibes. You just need some designers who understand what they're dong.
What's a really good SS amp for home use and possibly small gigs? Looking for right now..
@@daaneshsharma57 Honestly for primarily home use, stuff like the Yamaha THR and Vox Adio if you can find one are probably about the best. Some people like the Spark but many find the speakers muddy. Katana(pref. the 100 - better speaker). If you're looking for decent non modeler SS amps -
The Orange stuff is probably the best bet, the Crush Pro or Super Crush. Laney makes their own decent SS amps with the LX65 for example. Vox Pathfinder 15R(ideally with a speaker swap). The old SS Randalls. Pretty much any bigger SS Peavey - the bandit can be a bit heavy for an SS amp though, I'd recommend the studio pro. Also go for Red Stripe or silver face if you can, modern ones are a bit fizzier. Marshall Lead 12. Yamaha G50-112. Older Roland Cube, or Blues Cube.
@@daaneshsharma57 a Chinese made vox ac15 has it all for me!
@@daaneshsharma57 Roland blues cube artist.
Some people want the real spring reverb though, I can't argue with that. Personally, I'm fine with a pedal reverb. But just strictly amps, yeah, this is good enough.
Got one. It's great.
This thing sounds great. Plenty of gain sand the boost control looks very handy. Cleans sound sparkly too
Beautifully simple and effective demo. Many thanks!
Lovely! Sold my Laney TT 20 for 4 years ago and regret it. This one might be my next amp!
Now, that's how you do a guitar-amp demo video! 👏
Now that’s a proper demo!
All amp demos should be like this. No naff talking. 1. LP. 2. ST
Hope you guys demo the Cub Super 15 head. This demo was great!
Nice little amp, especially at that price . My second amp I ever owned was a Laney Mighty Eight (It wasn't very mighty lol). I would have killed for a cool amp like this back in the day.
I’m looking at small valve amps for home use, comparing the Marshall DSL5cr, the Harley Benton Tube 15 and the Vox AC10 - but I keep coming back to this review. My first amp was a little 8w Laney solid state practice amp, 43 years ago. It wasn’t great, but it got me started, and as my next amp will probably be the last I ever buy, I like the idea of closing the circle back with a Laney.
If you're looking for cleaner more Fender like tones go with the Laney for home use, either the Cub 10 or use the Cub 12 with the .1 watt input or the 15 watt input if playing with others. 15 Watts from the Cub 12 is pretty loud. I have used the Cub 10 and the Clean and overdriven tones are great (No built in reverb, but has an effects loop - So a cheap reverb pedal will solve that). Not great for harder rock or metal. If that's your goal I would lean towards the Marshall DSL5CR. That would be great for home use with a .5 Watt switch. The Cub 10 has no Low wattage switch. It's 5 Watts. Which is plenty loud for home use. Hope that helps. What are you looking to play in terms of style/tone?
Nice playing and a nice amp. Thank you.
As much as I love fender amps, this is definitely head and shoulders above a Blue's Jr.
What makes you say that? Honest opinion. Cause I’m considering the blues jr. I was going to get the Laney GH30R, then the Lionheart 5, but my budget isn’t allowing for those. Now I’m torn between this Cub 12 and the Blues Jr IV.
Also, do you know if this one is actually made in Britain or do they source this model out to 1 of the 10 asian companies everyone used now?
@@hereticlife2546 The Blue's Jr has no effects loop. The base models have a crappy particle board cabinet . It's not a bad amp if you do the upgrades, but when you add up all you've put into it, you might as well have bought the Vox. I don't know if an effects loop is an important feature to you. I would imagine the Laney is made in China. If you change out one of the Laney 12AX7 preamp tubes to a low gain, you will get much more clean headroom out of it. Both amps in base model form have particle board cabinets. The Laney has more features. The Blue's Jr does take pedals really well. In my honest opinion though, too many pedals run through the front of the amp kills the tone.
@@hereticlife2546 you should seriously consider the MonoPrice Stage Right 15. It is basically a rebranded Laney Super Cub for less money and has a better Celestion speaker in it. I had the 5 watt version and it was smoking hot. Another amp to consider is the Bugera. They have worked out the reliability issues, have a great price and features and the stock speaker is good.
@@hereticlife2546 My good friend uses a Blues Jr. Put a Cannabis Rex speaker in it and he said that really helped get the sound he wanted. Alas, the Blues Jr has no boost and doesn’t quite break up enough for me on its own. I’m mad as hell about the state of the world right now so I need something that can really scream.
I am really bummed they neglected the 6V6GT circuit option like the original Laney Cub 10 had compared to the EL84 circuit to that of the Cub 12R, and the Cub Head respectively. The new super line looks like a nice refresh. However, they shot they’re self in the foot by not having a variety of circuit options. Such a shame too. The original Cub 10 was so well done, and under appreciated.
I'll stick to my Cub 10.
for clean jazz tone the legend L 1218 is the best I have tried so far in it. .
I have tried so many speakers in this great amp, modern and originals.
A 16 ohmed G12T75 modern takes out the low mids so makes it sound very sparkly and fendery- good if you want to.
A vintage V30 that had a dense steely tone- good for slide guitar.
Greenbacks sound very woody, but are not my top choice.
G1265- similar to the stock HH 1265 in many ways, very nice.
The best was an EVM12L, original, in a thiele cab.
And the best overall was an Eminence 16 ohm Lady Luck- unbelievable speaker.
So good it make me email Eminence to ask for similar contemporary speakers of them (lady lauck is an OEM Emily speaker) and they informed me that their currently produced equivalents are the CV 75/ 65, Reignmaker, Governor and Legend L1275.
From Celestions for this amp I recommend:
Alnico blue, gold, cream, ruby.
G12H anniversary- not the Heritage.
Any Creamback, especially the H75.
V type first, A type second.
G1265/ T75.
70-80/ G12P80.
From Eminence those I mentioned first plus the GA SC64 plus many others.
From Jensen C12N, K2, P12.
This amp packs a lot of punchiness, boominess and low mids due to circuit design and small enclosure so you may need to compensate for that with the speaker choices.
It is a GREAT amp, totally recommended.
Looking for a better clean on my cub head. Should I go for a G12T75 so?
Thank you for the video and nice demo. Single coils cleans seem less convincing than humbuckers on this Laney but I might give it a try, despite the fact that I'm a cleans freak. Chances are it could be a good alternative to my Blackstar HT-5, and give my Reverend guitars a nice response (Buckshot, Warhawk RT, Airsonic RA and Crosscut).
You could try replacing one or more of the 12ax7 preamp tubes with low gain tubes. I have done this with a Marshall dsl 100 amp and it really gave the cleans a nice warm clean tone. The speaker could also be the problem.
@@samboggs3499 I finally bought one and this Cub super-12 has superb tones, and much clearer than I expected ! One day if I have enough cash I might try replacing the ax7 with low gain tubes, it could well be the perfect association with my Reverend Crosscut... Thanks for the info !
This is the Best demo vid for the Super 12! What a breath of fresh air. Smokin sexy amp too!
Whats it mic’d up with?
Which is better, this super laney or the Blues Júnior? Is Dsl20cr interesting too? It is to be used as a pedal platform. Can you handle rehearsals and small shows?

Sounds great! It seems to have zero clean headroom as there is already some dirt with the gain a 2 ;-)
So true, I own this amp. Zero headroom is a problem cause I am after clean tone retro styles like Surf. Yet, this amp is so warm, it balances this off.
@@georgefromgreece4119 do you own the super top? I own the cub12r and it has a good bit of clean headroom with the master cranked and the gain brought up to taste. Stays British clean until around 4 (11 o’clock). It won’t be American clean for surf music though lol it’s a British voiced amp
@@topherrrr92 just put an Eminence Legend in, the cheapest one, couldn't be happier. So warm, clean, touch responsive. Yet still it is not a clean amp.
@@topherrrr92 I own the cub 12, combo. No reverb.
@@georgefromgreece4119 if you want it to have a cleaner-ish tone then I recommend a G12H30-55hz, a V30 or a V-Type. My personal favorite on the amp is the 55hz G12H. It’s slightly scooped in the mids and accentuates the bottom and top end sweetly which gives more bell-like tones. Put the gain on 0.5 - 1 tops and use your master volume for overall volume.
At last an amp which sounds really nice.
Great demo
Could you tell me the differences between the Cub 12R & the Super Cub 12 15W ?
Cub 12R is old model, Super one is new model. Cub 12R has tone control extra, doesn't have boost. Super one doesn't have tone control but has boost. Totally same amplifiers actually.
WOW great fkn tone
Sounds decent
Agreed.
Bought it now! (Arriving the 16th or so) Will see how it sounds clean😬😬
Sounds amazing! My humbuckers are quite low output, so I can easily get cleans. Be aware that if you have a one button footswitch, the reverb will always be off while it's plugged in. Speaking of, the reverb is fantastic, although I found that it adds a bit of fast delay or something when turned up. I does not sound bad, only not what I thought it would sound like.
@@perking5617 does this have plenty of head room for humbuckers? Can you get nice cleans or is it all and all a rock machine!!!!
@@dannysmith373 i have a Yamaha revstar rs620, and i can get nice warm cleans with that guitar at low to mid volume (Humbuckers). However if i want high volume, it won’t be clean, but a little warm drive doesn’t hurt for what i play, and if i set the gain past 4 it gets some very nice british drive, kind of similar to queen’s rythm guitar sound actually
I play an orange and I'm looking for a clean Clapton, Gilmore type tone. But I play at the house. Any recommendations??? If so, thanks!!
Loud enough to play with loud drummer ?
After trying A LOT of different speakers with this amp, most of them originals, not reissues, like say an original EV M12 L in a thiele cab, black backs, Emi Legends, original V30s and T75s, G1265s, etc, besides the EV, for british tone by far the best was Eminence CV 75 and for american a Legend 1218 or old V30.
Check out a Traynor YCV blue. Nice tone
Really ? Are they still in business ? My brother had one of their PA heads in the early 80's , when went to visit ,I used to play guitar into it lol.
@@shaunw9270 I don't know if they're still currently selling them but if you can find a used one I think they are great amps not too heavy to carry around and you could always swap out tubes and even the speaker if you care too . Great clean tone and Marshall like overdrive I wish I still had the amp I bought it brand new. Definitely a great sleeper amp.
@@daniellaudman8580 Interesting , thanks for the info Daniel.
@@shaunw9270 sure thang
Available as a head too. Hmm...
I played 3 of the head and 2/12 Cab set ups as a full stereo stage rig for years. Great little amps
I wanna sound similar like sabbath and zeppelin is the right choice to get that guitar tone?
If sabbath, very. if zeppelin, Close enough
just get the catalinbread rah pedal and you'll be fine
It can do that but not with the stock speaker. For Black Sabbath like tones you'll need to swap the stock speaker with a WGS ET65. Although WGS claims it to be a G12-65 clone, it sounds more similar to old Goodmans Audiom 12P-G speakers.
Sounds expensive 👌🤘
£399 retail...
@@guitarist That converts to a fairly hefty amount in AUD - seeing as we Aussies get caned on gear prices.
I like my Cub12r. It was $350AUD used, as new. Be interesting to try one of these new ones if and when they get to Australia.
@@mattgilbert7347 Here in AU, the price is just shy of a Blues Junior IV on special. Removes it as a consideration for me, that and the uninspiring clean.
Nice dry sound, reminds me of the VHT amps only it sounds a lot better.
I have the MONOPRICE version!
@@DMSProduktions does the MP sound identical to this one?
@@tarheeltone NO idea, however it should be pretty close, as it's the same circuit, but it has a lesser grade speaker in it so, it will sound a bit different!
Sounds VERY British...
Possibly. Nice amp , but I'll stick with my actual British amps lol .
would love to know how it cleans up when lowering the volume on the guitar while using gain...
Yeah, none of these videos seem to show much of a clean sound. I need an amp with good cleans.
@@mr.d.572 push the volume to max.. set the gain to 3 on the dial and it is clean with single coils.. With a hot humbucker you probably have to lower the gain slightly,, it is just a 15W clean amp with a speaker without a large magnet like a vintage 30 so not a loud amp,, the preamp is a hot marshall JCM800 type with a cathode follower tone stack
Anyone knows when it will arrive Europe?
I think you can already buy it online in many European shops, especially those in the UK and Germany.
@@yunketroniko couldn't find any in Germany. Any advice?
@@mayhemmm Thomann.
Is the clean not total clean in any volume?
Yes. I own it, and you can get very nice crystal clean tones, with the gain at 2-3, and the volume crancked.
Doesn't seem to do clean, which is a shame.
Such a shame. So my choices in this form factor vis chimey and indie-type sounds are Blues Junior or Blues Junior.
@@alittlebitoflight the Cub has 3 preamp valves, it provides plenty of drive even at 2-3 Gain (similar to what you would get at 4-5-6 gain on a "cleaner" amp). However, if you crank the power amp (volume), which the guy in the video did not do, and turn the gain even lower (maybe around 1?), you should get a very nice clean tone. in terms of headroom, that's more about the power section, I would not expect the amp to fall out of line compared to other dual el84 amps.
worth noting that if you want clean, the boost should be off since that's pretty much an overdrive pedal that adds lots of extra drive and compression. unlike most "budget" tube amps that have plenty of solid state components in the signal path, like Marshall's DSLs or Blackstar (on lower end Blackstars where most of the tone comes from the solid state parts), at least Laney is transparent about the design and you can turn the silicone clipping off.
@@jonsnow7092 Hi Jon, many thanks for your very informative reply. I very much appreciate it, as will anyone researching a possible purchase. Cheers.
Is there a better amp that's low wattage, for clean tones? I can't find much at a decent price. I like this one for the warm overdrive, but I need good cleans for when I play jazz.
@@mr.d.572 The second piece in Tom Quayle's examples using this amp is clean: czcams.com/video/IugadEAmZ9M/video.html
Dime it.
put it on 11
CAN you say Stage Right 15 from MONOPRICE?
@@randomstranger2472 Ok that's cool!
Harley Benton
@@kungpuk5186 ;o)
@@kungpuk5186
It's the same amp as the Monoprice, just branded with a different name.
No it is not the same. It has different valves (Hand selected Ruby Tubes) and a different speaker (12" HH Custom speaker), How the f..k is that the same?
Not a bad little amp for the money. Where is it made?
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I wouldmt worry about it. China makes products at Japan levels now. Unless it's just a political thing.....
Does anyone know the price as of April 2021 as none of the reviewers mention current price?
In the UK they are £399. The head and the 10w/10" version are both £329.
El antiguo tiene mejor limpio.
Ponle una AY7 en V1 y arreglado.
shame the cabinet is so small
I think they aim to portability with this model
get the head version and use whichever head you want
It's for those who are tired of carrying tones of weight, like me.
No clean sounds!
Sounds like shit, imo
'Boutique amp' vs 'budget amp'.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is a tweaked Monoprice/Harley Benton Tube15, same circuit and components (except for the speaker), but at double the price. The back panel connections are identical too. This doesn't even have a spring reverb, it has a digital one. They changed the 1-15 Watt attenuator, split it into 2 inputs instead of a switch, and added the 'boost' function. You can buy one hell of a boost pedal for half of the money that this amp costs. LOL.